Author Topic: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster (Read 1686229 times)

kingv · « **Reply #7380 on:** October 22, 2019, 08:56:48 AM »

Canada has its first black Prime Minister!

Raist · « **Reply #7381 on:** October 22, 2019, 11:26:22 AM »

https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1186650398037331968

Boogie · « **Reply #7382 on:** October 22, 2019, 11:37:23 AM »

Goodale defeated, incoming Minister of Public Safety Bill Blair.

That’ll cause some meltdowns on the Left in the GTA.

kingv · « **Reply #7383 on:** October 22, 2019, 11:51:25 AM »

The New Deal was pretty good for America, so you vote on the new deal, enter a phase of British prosperity, win WWII, and bob on your uncle.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7384 on:** October 22, 2019, 12:13:53 PM »

Sask going all blue is a shame. I don't even think any party actually represented rural voters this round.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7385 on:** October 22, 2019, 12:49:27 PM »

Beaverton also had a pretty good night

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/10/doug-ford-knocks-on-cellar-door-to-see-if-its-okay-to-come-out/
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/10/update-maxime-bernier-too-racist-even-for-quebec/
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/10/trudeau-win-inspires-next-generation-of-white-men-to-break-the-blackface-barrier/
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/10/andrew-scheer-frantically-asks-for-do-over-after-accidentally-voting-for-trudeau/

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7386 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:13:18 PM »

cbc with a good take on how divided people seem right now
it is a bit worrying given how this country isn't as remotely populous or spread out as the USA

Nintex · « **Reply #7387 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:23:21 PM »

So Johnson won the backing on his deal but not on the timetable. So now elections seem likely. It all depends on the response of the EU.
The French have again already said: "NON!" but Germany pays so they decide.

Meanwhile Erdo met with Putin and he was so thirsty that he put the map of Syria on the table, while the camera's were still running.
So Putin waved with his hand and Erdogan quickly covered up his map of the spoils.

They came to an agreement which is very close to the agreement made between Turkey and the US.
Russia with the help of Syrian forces will help the Turks to clear out the proposed 'safe-zone' of YPG elements and other heavy weaponry.
Putin siding with Erdogan against the Kurds has made their position even worse today.

The Americans at the same time have dropped any pretense of fighting for human rights or democracy. The latest Pentagon plan is to guard the oil fields in Kurdish areas with 200 special forces and air power.
Basically doing what Trump wanted to do for a while in the Middle East: "Take the oil".

Iraq has told the US that their evacuated forces cannot stay in Iraq. Crossing out the plans of Esper to run counter terror-ops from Iraq.

As for Europe, France had to learn via Twitter that the Americans were pulling out and then had to scramble to remove their own special forces from the area.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7388 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:28:53 PM »

I don't know how you fix it when Alberta refuses to accept any change on oil. Two-thirds of the country voted for progressive climate change and its only growing across canada. When the Libs go out on a limb to go ahead with the pipeline and get nothing back other than blame for it happing too slow (which would happen with the Tories too), then its like why try? The federal government would also need to work with the premier if they wanted to implement a real plan for getting their economy off of oil and that won't happen either.

I think the best they could do is try to split off Sask. and Manitoba from the Tories as energy hardly affects them. They vote Tories because the Libs never really acknowledge their specific problems. I'd love to see the NDP move away from campaigning on social issues (since its basically the same stance as the Libs and Greens most of the time) and move back to unions, workers, and farmers to try to get the prairies back.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7389 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:33:45 PM »

not like quebec is big on unity either, they are big on getting to erode religious liberties at their own discretion

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7390 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:39:14 PM »

Honestly, I'm happy for Quebec nationalism as long as its not separatism. I don't necessarily think it also has to result in the xenophobia it has and stuff like Bill 21. I think there is a way where you can have a strong national Quebec and still have strong unity, and with separatism being on a decline there, this might be a step towards that.

There is also a big difference in that the BQ is fairly close to ideology on most things to the Libs, NDP, and Greens and Bill 21 is really only the major clash - right now, Quebec wants the same things as most of Canada. That's a very different disunity than BQ was in the 90's. With Alberta, they are clashing on what is probably the biggest issue for a majority of voters either way.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7391 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:48:33 PM »

most of albertan displeasure is summed up with economic anxiety unironically, so they're just pissed off in general
I live there and all my relatives vote blue or red generally, even if they fit as "young PoCs"

country has frankly insufficient nationalism, knock american flag fetishes all you want but without a strong sense of nation it collapses into smaller scale regional bickering and no sense of unity

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7392 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:54:28 PM »

Quote from: shosta on October 22, 2019, 06:49:40 PM

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on October 22, 2019, 06:28:53 PM
I'd love to see the NDP move away from campaigning on social issues (since its basically the same stance as the Libs and Greens most of the time) and move back to unions, workers, and farmers to try to get the prairies back.
Nazi third positionism

nazis made the nationalism and socialism combo awkward because I unironically end up with values that end up nationalist and socialist with various politic tests and I'm like shit, I can't list those two next to one another even though nazis being socialist is ameriboomer talking points

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7393 on:** October 22, 2019, 06:59:36 PM »

I don't think you need a strong national identity to have national unity. It might make Albertans less likely to talk about leaving, but it wouldn't solve the issue that they depend on an economy that the rest of Canada and the world are moving away from. Strong national identity doesn't necessitate strong national unity, just look at Appalachia.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7394 on:** October 22, 2019, 07:06:41 PM »

Patriotism and the like does curb separatism and intranational bickering by painting it negatively, which would be nice right now.
Honestly, people just give a shit about their next paycheck here and for a lot of people that is their biggest worry. Suicide and drug abuse has been spiking around here.

Frankly, a lot of the debate has been framed, malicious intent or not, as being antagonist to Alberta. As a result correlating with the atmosphere of misery there is an uptick of hostility. That the feds/rest of the country/whatever wants to push the economy further down.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7395 on:** October 22, 2019, 07:43:35 PM »

Good map https://jsfiddle.net/zgv2fqub/1/

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7396 on:** October 22, 2019, 08:18:51 PM »

Quote from: shosta on October 22, 2019, 08:10:27 PM

Quote from: OnlyRegret on October 22, 2019, 07:06:41 PM
Patriotism and the like does curb separatism and intranational bickering by painting it negatively, which would be nice right now.
If Quebec wanted to be independent, what would that be any of your business?

if they want out, sure, let them out
I don't care to force them to stay, I'm fine with the rest of the country sticking together and lessening the squabbles and neglect angst, and the various separatist drama like what will be here soon

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7397 on:** October 22, 2019, 09:31:27 PM »

really, alberta isn't that guaranteed conservative bedrock anymore
even the libs took seats in 2015, ndp took provincial power that year and currently has the sole non-blue seat (in edmonton), calgary has had a muslim mayor for 9 years now
alberta is also like 1/4 non-white now

strategy going forward would probably be to accept some parts will never vote blue and see if you can coax some of the contested areas away by prioritizing

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7398 on:** October 22, 2019, 10:36:34 PM »

That's what I'd like to see, same with Sask. Though I think it's hard to get past the energy propaganda that anyone but tories will destroy the economy. Libs need to find new seats somewhere and it won't be Quebec or BC, so they can either move more left and eat the NDP vote to stop the vote splitting - which I think is what will happen with the minority government - or they can try to peel away specific prairie ridings, while still maintaining southern Ontario. Likewise, I think the NDP could win these if they focused on them. Still I don't know how you get past the climate change issue to do this. Still, maybe we will be in a better place in 2 or 3 years.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7399 on:** October 22, 2019, 10:44:27 PM »

Honestly, libs and cons are not worlds apart, my family/relatives swapped red in 2015 and then a bunch back to blue in 2019, it isn't entirely out of the question to chip away at the blue base here.
I don't particularly feel bad about the Albertan O&G sector existing so long as oil is consumed, I just wish they'd gun towards being less dependent on it. Otherwise you end up in the current situation where people are just pissed and really it can't be fixed how they want it to be.

Not surprised by the rage since, coincidentally, Husky elected to do this today.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/husky-energy-confirms-layoffs-sources-say-hundreds-of-jobs-affected-1.1335493

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7400 on:** October 22, 2019, 10:58:13 PM »

Ya I want the energy sector to continue and I'm for pipelines - I just want them to invest that money into green tech and I want them to get off coal and gas powerplants - which I think only works completly if they switch to nuclear right now - which no one will do. I doubt they could fully switch to solar and wind right now. The idea that we could shut down oil and gas and have any effect on climate change that way is a bit crazy.

Reddit comments, with no sources, told me Husky has been in trouble for a while and the Alberta government had them decrease production to increase oil cost. Regardless of the carbon tax and most of Canada's push for climate change progress, I think the energy sector would have been in trouble anyways.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7401 on:** October 22, 2019, 11:04:30 PM »

Oh, I don't think it is a spur of the moment layoff, just that morning after elections timing is a little dirty.
I wish the world as a whole would float the idea of some the more novel nuclear technologies but so far the greenest bunch want to lock in to just solar+wind. Which I really don't see working out, especially solar for ~1/3 of the year here. What can or can't be done somehow gets pushed as being a conservative talking point.

Alberta is a tricky situation right now and you'd have to pick a slice to cater to since it is far from unanimous internally. The general economic anxiety just pushes them to vote anger.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #7402 on:** October 23, 2019, 11:33:28 AM »

https://i.imgur.com/N83r8iK.mp4

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7403 on:** October 23, 2019, 12:32:43 PM »

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/39-dead-truck-container-england-1.5331636

Nintex · « **Reply #7404 on:** October 23, 2019, 02:05:41 PM »

Maybe if you checked anything at the 5 borders crossed you would've found them earlier.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7405 on:** October 23, 2019, 02:55:15 PM »

edit *my joke didnt work

Nintex · « **Reply #7406 on:** October 23, 2019, 02:59:44 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on October 23, 2019, 02:55:15 PM

edit *my joke didnt work

Wow how could you joke about such a horrible event of human suffering $:-\$

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7407 on:** October 23, 2019, 03:16:26 PM »

Yes, I shouldn't have joked about your life - im sorry.

team filler · « **Reply #7408 on:** October 23, 2019, 04:09:14 PM »

https://twitter.com/maduro_en/status/1187095339016314880

Rufus · « **Reply #7409 on:** October 23, 2019, 06:07:14 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on October 23, 2019, 02:05:41 PM

Maybe if you checked anything at the 5 borders crossed you would've found them earlier.

Maybe if there were no checks at all, they wouldn't have felt the need to takes this risky route.

benjipwns · « **Reply #7410 on:** October 23, 2019, 06:09:46 PM »

Quote from: shosta on October 22, 2019, 08:10:27 PM

Quote from: OnlyRegret on October 22, 2019, 07:06:41 PM
Patriotism and the like does curb separatism and intranational bickering by painting it negatively, which would be nice right now.
If Quebec wanted to be independent, what would that be any of your business?

Same as the Union's with the Confederacy.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7411 on:** October 23, 2019, 07:29:57 PM »

looks who trying to push something
https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1187046260211159041

benjipwns · « **Reply #7412 on:** October 23, 2019, 07:31:59 PM »

I was going to share a few of the replies to that Tweet, but when I saw the avatar on this one I knew it had to be the only one:
https://twitter.com/ok_eh_ko/status/1187049252536639493

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7413 on:** October 23, 2019, 07:55:23 PM »

https://twitter.com/peterdowningAB/status/1187037808109608960

thanks for joining in BC and Manitoba

REGIME CHANGE

https://twitter.com/peterdowningAB/status/1186308342274093057

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7414 on:** October 23, 2019, 08:04:42 PM »

we'll build a wall too!
https://twitter.com/reikokoyama79/status/1186486099494887424

splintering off into a separate and landlocked country devoid of any agreements and weight of a country to use? success!
https://twitter.com/GerryDuker52004/status/1186682970947629064

benjipwns · « **Reply #7415 on:** October 23, 2019, 08:05:51 PM »

I support the freedom fighters attempting to bring democracy to the totalitarian frozen wasteland that sits along our UNDEFENDED BORDER.

I hope that President Trump begins consideration of their acceptance as non-self-governing territories of the United States like Guam, Puerto Rico and the Kingdom of Hawai'i.

benjipwns · « **Reply #7416 on:** October 23, 2019, 08:08:29 PM »

We need to consider an airlift to get the founders and members of BioWare's HQ in Edmonton to freedom in the United States.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7417 on:** October 23, 2019, 08:25:33 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on October 23, 2019, 08:08:29 PM

We need to consider an airlift to get the founders and members of BioWare's HQ in Edmonton to freedom in the United States.

god speed

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7418 on:** October 23, 2019, 08:29:45 PM »

Quote from: shosta on October 23, 2019, 08:14:52 PM

LIBERATE ALBERTA, REVOLUTION OF OUR TIMES

DUMP THE TEA, DO IT NOW

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Location: Florida

[close]

https://twitter.com/officialjtw/status/1186469498964058117

benjipwns · « **Reply #7419 on:** October 23, 2019, 08:33:08 PM »

https://twitter.com/officialjtw/status/1186773265450184704

speaking truth to power

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7420 on:** October 23, 2019, 08:33:50 PM »

you are all welcome for a change of pace from just fuckery in your own country

benjipwns · « **Reply #7421 on:** October 23, 2019, 09:35:34 PM »

LOOK AT WHAT THE FAT CATS BACK EAST ARE DOING WHILE WESTERN CANADA SUFFERS UNDER THE IMPERIALIST YOKE:
https://twitter.com/Raptors/status/1186787954267693057

Quote

Here are some of the features of what the team called the "largest NBA championship ring" ever produced:

A 1.25-carat diamond atop the Larry O'Brien Trophy, the largest single diamond in any professional sports ring

The front of the ring depicts the Toronto skyline and Scotiabank Arena, along with the team's chevron logo

The 74 diamonds in and around the Toronto skyline represent the team's 74 wins in the regular season and playoffs

Above the arena on the front of the ring are six round diamonds representing "The Six," which rapper and Raptors global ambassador Drake popularized as another reference for the city of Toronto

16 rubies and the 16 jersey numbers of the players on the championship roster encircle the ring

Inside the ring, the championship logo is engraved above the Raptors' postseason series records and a ruby is set inside a maple leaf representing Canada

One side of the ring features the player's name and number

The opposite side features "World Champions 2019" above the Raptors' logo

In total, the ring boasts 14 carats' worth of diamonds and more than 650 total diamonds; both are the most ever in any professional championship ring.

Quote

Drake and superfan Nav Bhatia also received rings, the team confirmed. Drake also commissioned Jason of Beverly Hills to make him a separate ring, which has over 30 carats of diamonds.

Tripon · « **Reply #7422 on:** October 23, 2019, 09:53:08 PM »

Quote from: shosta on October 23, 2019, 09:41:36 PM

I'd pay good money for Trudeau to inspect my meat

Find the best tanning salon in your city STAT.

benjipwns · « **Reply #7423 on:** October 23, 2019, 09:54:46 PM »

The crazy thing is that shosta's talking about Pierre.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #7424 on:** October 23, 2019, 11:28:59 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on October 23, 2019, 09:35:34 PM

LOOK AT WHAT THE FAT CATS BACK EAST ARE DOING WHILE WESTERN CANADA SUFFERS UNDER THE IMPERIALIST YOKE:
https://twitter.com/Raptors/status/1186787954267693057
Quote
Here are some of the features of what the team called the "largest NBA championship ring" ever produced:

A 1.25-carat diamond atop the Larry O'Brien Trophy, the largest single diamond in any professional sports ring

The front of the ring depicts the Toronto skyline and Scotiabank Arena, along with the team's chevron logo

The 74 diamonds in and around the Toronto skyline represent the team's 74 wins in the regular season and playoffs

Above the arena on the front of the ring are six round diamonds representing "The Six," which rapper and Raptors global ambassador Drake popularized as another reference for the city of Toronto

16 rubies and the 16 jersey numbers of the players on the championship roster encircle the ring

Inside the ring, the championship logo is engraved above the Raptors' postseason series records and a ruby is set inside a maple leaf representing Canada

One side of the ring features the player's name and number

The opposite side features "World Champions 2019" above the Raptors' logo

In total, the ring boasts 14 carats' worth of diamonds and more than 650 total diamonds; both are the most ever in any professional championship ring.
Quote
Drake and superfan Nav Bhatia also received rings, the team confirmed. Drake also commissioned Jason of Beverly Hills to make him a separate ring, which has over 30 carats of diamonds.
(Image removed from quote.)

The team [for some reason] gave Drake a ring and he still went out and had a custom one made.

team filler · « **Reply #7425 on:** October 23, 2019, 11:37:24 PM »

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7426 on:** October 24, 2019, 01:48:15 AM »

stop colonizing me

https://twitter.com/albertaseparate/status/1146759729286270976

Brehvolution · « **Reply #7427 on:** October 24, 2019, 09:47:35 AM »

I'm take a wild guess, but I'm guessing Alberta is mostly conservative?

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7428 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:28:30 PM »

https://twitter.com/EdtheSock/status/1187204768692875264

This but it should just be on F-150's, snowmobiles, and stetsons.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #7429 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:34:42 PM »

Ed the Sock should debate Rush on Canadian sales tax laws.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7430 on:** October 24, 2019, 06:21:12 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on October 24, 2019, 05:28:30 PM

https://twitter.com/EdtheSock/status/1187204768692875264

This but it should just be on F-150's, snowmobiles, and stetsons.

Sucks there is a population here that'd rather fly into the ground chasing a dream and refuse to cooperate with anyone. Just don't bother with the overly obstinate people to spare the rest in the province.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7431 on:** October 25, 2019, 11:16:42 AM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50175914

EU agrees to Brexit delay

Tripon · « **Reply #7432 on:** October 25, 2019, 01:29:42 PM »

Is brexit happening?

Nintex · « **Reply #7433 on:** October 25, 2019, 01:37:37 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on October 25, 2019, 01:29:42 PM

Is brexit happening?

Well, they voted for the deal with the EU, so it is happening.
But not on the timetable that Johnson wanted, which was to push it through before the 31st.

So they're going to take more time to pass all the necessary legislation and debate it.

Brexit is happening unless Corbyn can win an election against Boris, which he can't.

Tripon · « **Reply #7434 on:** October 25, 2019, 03:45:51 PM »

https://twitter.com/lindayueh/status/1187805831598952448

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7435 on:** October 25, 2019, 04:00:25 PM »

The French always betray you in the end.

Raist · « **Reply #7436 on:** October 25, 2019, 04:01:16 PM »

That picture

Occam · « **Reply #7437 on:** October 25, 2019, 06:29:01 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on October 25, 2019, 03:45:51 PM

https://twitter.com/lindayueh/status/1187805831598952448

Excellent, hope Macron actually sticks to it and doesn't turn out to be a cheese-eating surrender monkey.

Nintex · « **Reply #7438 on:** October 26, 2019, 07:56:00 AM »

https://twitter.com/Brexit/status/1188059349681364993

Tripon · « **Reply #7439 on:** October 26, 2019, 11:23:50 AM »

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/198431344638955522

News:

Author Topic: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster (Read 1686229 times)