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« Reply #8761 on: June 18, 2020, 06:04:43 PM »
:titus the fucc

https://twitter.com/shitmizan/status/1272662571284398082

That was a rowdy handful of days. Police came down hard and arrested a bunch of people, things are back to quiet but yeah.
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« Reply #8762 on: June 19, 2020, 01:35:46 PM »
Blessed 9ja :rejoice :rejoice :rejoice
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« Reply #8764 on: June 20, 2020, 09:49:51 AM »
Yooooooo

https://twitter.com/David_McNair/status/1273519694327296000

That sounds really, really bad.

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« Reply #8765 on: June 21, 2020, 05:08:41 PM »
The real question is what did they spend the other 1% on?
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« Reply #8766 on: June 21, 2020, 06:09:12 PM »
The real question is what did they spend the other 1% on?
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« Reply #8769 on: June 23, 2020, 09:12:30 AM »
You'd think that killing someone while drunk and then leading police on a high-speed chase would be the kind of thing to sober a person up, but I guess not.
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« Reply #8771 on: June 23, 2020, 10:30:18 AM »
NOW it would be appropriate to post Holodomor pics.

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« Reply #8772 on: June 23, 2020, 02:10:53 PM »
NOW it would be appropriate to post Holodomor pics.

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« Reply #8774 on: June 25, 2020, 10:29:20 AM »
Isn't the deadline that they discontinued it? 

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« Reply #8775 on: June 25, 2020, 02:15:45 PM »
Her Majesty’s Most Loyal Opposition are cucked by Israel lads

https://twitter.com/geri_e_l_scott/status/1276155178081759238

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« Reply #8776 on: June 25, 2020, 02:24:13 PM »
The article suggested that yank cops learned the kneel on the neck technique from Israeli special forces 4 context :trumps
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« Reply #8778 on: June 25, 2020, 03:14:23 PM »
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« Reply #8780 on: June 26, 2020, 05:58:18 AM »
https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1276107874394144769

not everyone is a fan of dutch directness  :trumps
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« Reply #8781 on: June 26, 2020, 01:23:27 PM »
That island hasn't made a dime in 50 years.
I don't know why the hell we keep it as part of our 'Kingdom'  :lol
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« Reply #8782 on: June 26, 2020, 02:03:50 PM »
Because that's what imperialists do. 

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« Reply #8783 on: June 26, 2020, 02:37:56 PM »
Kill the Dutch and kill them!
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« Reply #8785 on: June 26, 2020, 06:40:17 PM »
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1276636406195073024
So it'll be about nothing or ?

"Well [inaudible] crickey on a [inaudible] grumbl the Chinese virus has started to hit us like a whorehouse in a slapstick.
Truely we must take back control Mr Hancock"

"Yes, Mr. Prime Minister"

"Very good lad!"

*some weeks later*

*cough*

"For some *cough* reason *cough* you doctors *cough* are all called *cough* Julian"

*cough* *cough*

"Oh hi nurse, I feel much better now thanks to you. You know despite the new baby it is not terribly serious with my girlfriend you know"
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« Reply #8787 on: June 28, 2020, 05:32:39 PM »
Long delayed second round of French municipal elections (first round happened in the week the Corona lockdown ramped up) today. Participation is dreadfully low.

Greens poised to win in Lyon, Bordeaux, and Strasbourg which is kind of a big deal. Bordeaux apparently just elected right wing mayors straight in first round for the last 73 years. The Greens (or Green-led leftist coalitions to be precise) did very well tonight.

Lille was close but the Socialist dynasty in ever decaying coal land embodied by Martine Aubry should continue agonizing for a few more years. Socialists also kept Paris.
The party will move again, barely 3 years in the suburbs to "reconnect with the working class", back in Paris in a much smaller office space.

Communists lost southern Arles after 19 years. Saint-Denis, the biggest Paris suburb, lost too... To the Socialists. They might win back another suburb though, Bobigny.

Marseille will probably be taken by an ex-Green / moderate left coalition.

Macron's Prime Minister keeps his seat in Le Havre.

The far-right RN Louis Aliot, which was a long time life partner of party head Marine Le Pen, takes Perpignan which I guess decided it was time they became a stereotypical French southeast city full of jaded racists. The united "republican front" failed. It's the first city with over 100k inhabitants to ever elect a RN mayor.

The far-right also keeps Béziers (76k inhabitants) though incumbent Robert Ménard (Yes the Reporters Without Borders founder turned wank dad) is not a card carrying RN member.

Doesn't seem "Macronism" is taking any local roots still. I'm sure they won some too, or at least conservative LR mayors they endorsed did. Apparently the latest objective was to have 10k city council members tonight... Out of a national total of 560k offices.
It's really kind of weird how top-down with no actual trickling down the whole Macron story is. A favourite past time of pundits since his election is to wonder if Macronism exists outside of Macron and the answer decidedly leans to "No". And with the whole Corona thing reminding him that he is not "Jupiter, master of time" commandeering events at his whim and forcing him into managing disaster rather than pushing some grand third way reform of France, the ideological print will be rather thin on the whole back half of his mandate.
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« Reply #8788 on: June 28, 2020, 07:01:44 PM »
Very interesting.

Have you heard of Michel Onfray? A Dutch media outlet recently released a deep dive into his 'new' political movement that unites the left and right.
He argues that the nation state must be preserved and much of the power that has transferred to Orwellian Europe should return to the states.
He's backed by both former conservative and socialist ministers, including Chevènement who was a minister under Mitterand.

They all believe that the Franc and the sovereignty of the nation state was given up too easily and cheap for the Euro and Globalization that doesn't benefit France as much as it does Germany and The Netherlands.
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« Reply #8789 on: June 28, 2020, 07:46:12 PM »
I don't care much for Onfray or his thought but yes he has been a famous philosopher (insofar an academic or intellectual can be) for the last 20 ? 30 ? years and he has some media clout.

Chevènement is a known quantity in French politics, he had a small party that gravitated around the Socialist galaxy and has long been a figure of the nationalist left though he basically retired from old age some years ago. He's famous for coining the "A minister keeps its hole shut. If it has something to say, he resigns from his office" (he resigned three times from ministries). Him throwing his support behind Onfray is a big marker.

Like all philosophers, it's pretty hard to pin his thought down into small, neat boxes. Some think he drifted right. Can't really comment on that.

Philosophers, intellectuals and academics are a staple of French politics but it's pretty rare they move the needle when trying to play the actual game of politics.

Bonus factoid : The logo for radical left France Insoumise (shortened as FI) is the Greek φ (Phi, which sounds like Fi...) toi call upon the virtues of philosophy.
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« Reply #8791 on: June 29, 2020, 06:04:27 PM »
Boris is doing fine despite the bungled COVID response and Labour is imploding and losing members over yet another antisemitism scandal while Farrage is riling up the progressives by making fun of Starmer's support for police funding.

Social democrats are like :rage
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« Reply #8792 on: June 29, 2020, 06:05:20 PM »
Still waiting on my free £££ Boris you fat cunt  :hmph
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« Reply #8794 on: June 30, 2020, 07:32:03 AM »
Keir Starmer looks like a dodgy solicitor who is gonna fiddle you out of your inheritance and he can suck my dick :tocry
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« Reply #8796 on: June 30, 2020, 12:12:37 PM »
 :lol :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #8798 on: June 30, 2020, 04:23:12 PM »
This is where Trump could score some points, but I think he'd rather compliment China on how brutally they will be dealing with HK. He loves displays of power.



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« Reply #8801 on: July 01, 2020, 01:31:59 PM »
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1278378098204053504

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The Kremlin has used other tactics to boost turnout and support for the amendments. Prizes ranging from gift certificates to cars and apartments were offered as an encouragement, voters with Russian passports from eastern Ukraine were bused across the border to vote, and two regions with large number of voters — Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod — allowed electronic balloting.

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« Reply #8802 on: July 01, 2020, 03:19:32 PM »
I didn't actually expect anything to happen in regards to this. Positively surprised.

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« Reply #8803 on: July 01, 2020, 03:23:59 PM »
At least they used GSG9 for Rainbow Six.  Wouldn't want Nazis in my Siege. 
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« Reply #8805 on: July 01, 2020, 03:30:50 PM »
I'm 50/50 on whether that stuff is real, but at least it's entertaining.

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« Reply #8806 on: July 01, 2020, 03:34:09 PM »
I can't believe it's real but I love it. 

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« Reply #8807 on: July 01, 2020, 03:36:34 PM »
Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if it is. I've been living in the UK for long enough to know that Brits are insane :lol
There was clearly a large number of retired Brits living in France / Spain who voted for Brexit, that's for sure. For god knows what fucking reason.

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« Reply #8808 on: July 01, 2020, 03:42:06 PM »
I didn't actually expect anything to happen in regards to this. Positively surprised.


A close friend of mine is a fairly high ranking Marine officer, his point is that you‘ll only attract nutcases to a secretive special unit either way, but the general problem with right wing extremists is, according to him, at least partially the fault of political meddling by people who never served which results in poorly funded and trained people. Regular people are chased away by poor career opportunities and bad pay so you only end up with the underbelly of society joining the troops.



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« Reply #8809 on: July 01, 2020, 03:56:39 PM »
I didn't actually expect anything to happen in regards to this. Positively surprised.


A close friend of mine is a fairly high ranking Marine officer, his point is that you‘ll only attract nutcases to a secretive special unit either way, but the general problem with right wing extremists is, according to him, at least partially the fault of political meddling by people who never served which results in poorly funded and trained people. Regular people are chased away by poor career opportunities and bad pay so you only end up with the underbelly of society joining the troops.
That's stage one. Stage two is a culture of soft-pedaling and underreporting the bad elements.

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« Reply #8810 on: July 01, 2020, 05:40:38 PM »
I didn't actually expect anything to happen in regards to this. Positively surprised.


A close friend of mine is a fairly high ranking Marine officer, his point is that you‘ll only attract nutcases to a secretive special unit either way, but the general problem with right wing extremists is, according to him, at least partially the fault of political meddling by people who never served which results in poorly funded and trained people. Regular people are chased away by poor career opportunities and bad pay so you only end up with the underbelly of society joining the troops.

It's not exactly surprising armed forces lean conservative and nationalistic... But maybe that's the situation for officer corps and it's different for riflemen ? I would expect, for an elite unit, you either get people from army families or, as you say, a lot of people attracted for all the wrong reasons.
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« Reply #8811 on: July 01, 2020, 05:47:37 PM »
I didn't actually expect anything to happen in regards to this. Positively surprised.


A close friend of mine is a fairly high ranking Marine officer, his point is that you‘ll only attract nutcases to a secretive special unit either way, but the general problem with right wing extremists is, according to him, at least partially the fault of political meddling by people who never served which results in poorly funded and trained people. Regular people are chased away by poor career opportunities and bad pay so you only end up with the underbelly of society joining the troops.
Yeah, how else are you going to staff an army of volunteers. You get people looking for the action and excitement and willing to get shot over an oil field in Syria or a deserted factory in Ukraine.
You won't get a lot of long term planners and thinkers. Besides when shit hits the fan you want well trained people willing to pull the trigger.   

In international politics shit hits fan news. Macron has called Turkey's actions in Libya 'criminal', will alter France's role in Libya(within the NATO engagement) and sides with Russia and Haftar.  :lol

Meanwhile Erdogan wants to ban Netflix
https://twitter.com/bbcturkce/status/1278265979085164544
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« Reply #8812 on: July 01, 2020, 06:00:08 PM »
He told me that people are not happy about politics intervening and dissolving units. It's a mindset of the armed forces seeing themselves as a state within a state I guess. It is not even about tolerating neo-nazis within their ranks, but being unhappy that an outsider like the ministry of defence got involved. I think having a minister who has been active military would help healing this divide. But we haven't had that for more than 30 years, instead that job has been become kind of meme as a job Merkel gives people to get rid of them.

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« Reply #8813 on: July 01, 2020, 06:13:28 PM »
He told me that people are not happy about politics intervening and dissolving units. It's a mindset of the armed forces seeing themselves as a state within a state I guess. It is not even about tolerating neo-nazis within their ranks, but being unhappy that an outsider like the ministry of defence got involved. I think having a minister who has been active military would help healing this divide. But we haven't had that for more than 30 years, instead that job has been become kind of meme as a job Merkel gives people to get rid of them.
It is sort of a token job for a politician looking to move up (not down) in the world in the Netherlands.
They see it as a thing that needs to be 'managed' preferably by a woman and there's always something left to cut in the budget.
Up until the point that our armed forces no longer had ammo and went to fight in Syria only to find out their radar systems were so outdated they couldn't even do missions.
Or that time they bought outdated mortars scrapped by the Americans that literally blew up in their face and cost the lives of a bunch of servicemen during training.

Our brief stint in Africa takes the cake though. A few years back they lost a helicopter there and sorta had to beg local warlords to give it back after a failed raid to retrieve it in which they lost another helicopter.  :doge
I would say our Marines, submarines and Commando's are the best equipped and trained. Our tanks we rent from Germany for practice from time to time.

Outside of some specialist stuff in any real 'war' the Dutch army would be a platoon in the Germany army which in turn would be a division of the French or Polish army at this point.

Cameron actually had some decent ideas to integrate Dutch, German, French and English defense. But the Germans balked at the last minute (as did the Dutch).
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« Reply #8814 on: July 02, 2020, 10:42:48 AM »
Where did idiot son go????

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« Reply #8816 on: July 02, 2020, 06:13:24 PM »

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« Reply #8817 on: July 03, 2020, 04:39:34 AM »
He sure does have a problem with the blacks

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« Reply #8819 on: July 03, 2020, 11:50:18 AM »
Looks like a map of NOD vs GDI
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