1,000+ Pages of NeoGAF: The Story of Wasted Lives and Hardcore Salt

[king of the internet]

has GAF really reached the point where even the most shameless avatar wielding shill who fires up a thread positively leaking disdain for all of a game's potential detractors that celebrates every last binary digit in its code can't be called out?

The worst part of that thread isn't the disgusting OP but the people rushing in to pat him on the back for his "great" impressions.

"Personally, I think it harkens back to Metal Gear Solid in terms of pacing, to Killzone 2 for its gunplay theatricality, and to Vanquish, for its replayability."

Dude should be getting roasted for that shit. But it's a lost cause and has been for a long time. Those several thousand post hypefests are the heart of that forum now. Fuck it.

[nachobro]

lol some of my posts mocking the order got deleted. shameful y2kev

[Atramental]

Shhhh. No dissenting opinions. Only warm, glowing impressions for a mediocre interactive movie.

[Phoenix Dark]

The problem with Squiddy and many GAF gaming/OT posters is that he is more into reactions than conversations. People don't post news stories on GAF to discuss them - they post for reactions, many of which are pretty standard/predictable. You'll have a group of people who get upset when negative stories are posted, you have a group that posts gif reactions, posters who quote gif reactions, drive by trolls/shit posts/etc.

The Bore doesn't really have much of that. Sure we troll and post Coli emotes but most of the active threads here are...people talking and shooting the shit. We don't have many reaction threads about news stories or events. Most of our threads are similar to some of the community threads on GAF: posters actually talking to each other.

Ultimately Squiddy has no interest in discussing anything, he wants reactions - to his links and to his forced personality. Even the worst Bore posters eventually became decent by moving away from shock posts and joining in conversations. Squiddy is incapable of having a normal conversation, all he wants is a spotlight.

[huckleberry]

lol some of my posts mocking the order got deleted. shameful y2kev

Mine too. I think the thread was actually nuked.

[nachobro]

Nah the impressions thread is still there but negative impressions are being removed

[dmj]

If it's really five hours 

I'm so glad everything I've seen of that PoS has turned me off, I'll just continue playing MGS3 HD which manages to be an amazing SP only game that isn't 5 hours. The defense force for The Order is sad, reminds me of the Infamous: Second Son defense force when people realized that it too was a 5 hour game. I don't think I've ever felt as swindled buying a game as when I bought that and beat it so fast.

[huckleberry]

Looks like they removed all the comments from the last 2 days or so. 

Great "impressions" thread gaf.

[recursivelyenumerable]

The problem with Squiddy and many GAF gaming/OT posters is that he is more into reactions than conversations. People don't post news stories on GAF to discuss them - they post for reactions, many of which are pretty standard/predictable. You'll have a group of people who get upset when negative stories are posted, you have a group that posts gif reactions, posters who quote gif reactions, drive by trolls/shit posts/etc.

my fave gaf threads are the ones with inflammatory misleading topic lines that get pages of reactions until on page 10 or so someone posts some clarification that completely invalidates the implied premise, after which the reaction stream usually continues unfazed for another 5 or 10 pages until someone notices and maybe eventually a mod changes the thread title or locks the thread

[SantaC]

is the order ever going to come out? The daily threads on gaf is like a torture.

[Mr. Nobody]

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[Oblivion]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152173781&postcount=181

 

And I love Daisy's upper body in this picture and would love to have a body type just like it!

    (Image removed from quote.)

Her hips are wider than I want to have, though.

  

[Oblivion]

Holy shit, this broad's INSANE:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152177441&postcount=194

 

[Your Stalker]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152196254&postcount=18

[Atramental]

@Oblivion

Yes, it's an alleged abuse victim displaying abnormal wants and desires.

What's new?

[thisismyusername]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152196254&postcount=18

(Image removed from quote.)

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to :leo that. Even a few people in that thread caught it.

[DarkFlow]

Holy shit, this broad's INSANE:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152177441&postcount=194

 

I still remember the time I got them to stop acting like a 10 year old girl for one post.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52338498&postcount=18914

All that because he literately wanted to delete his whole steam library because he didn't want to look at one game.  Never did find out what game it was.

[Phoenix Dark]

something is literally wrong with that person. Dunno if he/she/etc is a woman or a dude pretending to be a little girl online, or an alien who contracted Asperger's from the earth's ozone.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The problem with Squiddy and many GAF gaming/OT posters is that he is more into reactions than conversations. People don't post news stories on GAF to discuss them - they post for reactions, many of which are pretty standard/predictable. You'll have a group of people who get upset when negative stories are posted, you have a group that posts gif reactions, posters who quote gif reactions, drive by trolls/shit posts/etc.

The Bore doesn't really have much of that. Sure we troll and post Coli emotes but most of the active threads here are...people talking and shooting the shit. We don't have many reaction threads about news stories or events. Most of our threads are similar to some of the community threads on GAF: posters actually talking to each other.

Ultimately Squiddy has no interest in discussing anything, he wants reactions - to his links and to his forced personality. Even the worst Bore posters eventually became decent by moving away from shock posts and joining in conversations. Squiddy is incapable of having a normal conversation, all he wants is a spotlight.

That's the down side with a high traffic board like NeoGAF.  Posting a thoughtful and nuanced opinion is a surefire way of getting ignored.  So if people want to be known on GAF, they have to crank up the hyperbole and try to be an internet personality.  With The Bore, there are just a couple dozen regulars so being some wacky zany guy who really loves Sony won't get you very far because those types of people are annoying as fuck in real life.

[milchs evil twin]

Pretty sure no one beats the number of absolutely insane posts HolyBaikal has made over the years. There are some weird fucks on GAF, but she (I think that's what they identify as?) takes the cake.

[headwalk]

Pretty sure no one beats the number of absolutely insane posts HolyBaikal has made over the years. There are some weird fucks on GAF, but she (I think that's what they identify as?) takes the cake.

don't think anyone will top that lycanthrope loon who seethed with hate whenever he thought of cows and was annoyed that he'd have to buy a dog if he wanted to kick it to death.

[kick51]

Pretty sure no one beats the number of absolutely insane posts HolyBaikal has made over the years. There are some weird fucks on GAF, but she (I think that's what they identify as?) takes the cake.

don't think anyone will top that lycanthrope loon who seethed with hate whenever he thought of cows and was annoyed that he'd have to buy a dog if he wanted to kick it to death.

wow wat

holybaikai posts are eerie.  If they're not bullshit, that's a person who seems to need lots of help but isn't getting it.  if they are bullshit, then i tip my hat.

[headwalk]

Pretty sure no one beats the number of absolutely insane posts HolyBaikal has made over the years. There are some weird fucks on GAF, but she (I think that's what they identify as?) takes the cake.

don't think anyone will top that lycanthrope loon who seethed with hate whenever he thought of cows and was annoyed that he'd have to buy a dog if he wanted to kick it to death.

I totally forgot about this dude. I'm sure he's either working as a butcher now or in a psych ward.

d'you remember his name? tried every kind of search term and can't find it.

[kick51]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=992843

nope, not possible, we've reached maximum badness-- fox news ruining afternoons and annoying people at work.  it's the 9th circle of hell.

[helios]

Pretty sure no one beats the number of absolutely insane posts HolyBaikal has made over the years. There are some weird fucks on GAF, but she (I think that's what they identify as?) takes the cake.

don't think anyone will top that lycanthrope loon who seethed with hate whenever he thought of cows and was annoyed that he'd have to buy a dog if he wanted to kick it to death.

What about the guy who thought he was a videogame character?

[meeb]

The problem with Squiddy and many GAF gaming/OT posters is that he is more into reactions than conversations. People don't post news stories on GAF to discuss them - they post for reactions, many of which are pretty standard/predictable. You'll have a group of people who get upset when negative stories are posted, you have a group that posts gif reactions, posters who quote gif reactions, drive by trolls/shit posts/etc.

The Bore doesn't really have much of that. Sure we troll and post Coli emotes but most of the active threads here are...people talking and shooting the shit. We don't have many reaction threads about news stories or events. Most of our threads are similar to some of the community threads on GAF: posters actually talking to each other.

Ultimately Squiddy has no interest in discussing anything, he wants reactions - to his links and to his forced personality. Even the worst Bore posters eventually became decent by moving away from shock posts and joining in conversations. Squiddy is incapable of having a normal conversation, all he wants is a spotlight.

That's the down side with a high traffic board like NeoGAF.  Posting a thoughtful and nuanced opinion is a surefire way of getting ignored.  So if people want to be known on GAF, they have to crank up the hyperbole and try to be an internet personality.  With The Bore, there are just a couple dozen regulars so being some wacky zany guy who really loves Sony won't get you very far because those types of people are annoying as fuck in real life.

Does anyone remember the time Blame Space and Timedog were gaf celebrities?

[Dennis]

Does anyone remember the time Blame Space and Timedog were gaf celebrities?

Haters say Timedog fell off. Hell, I say he was never funny.

[headwalk]

Pretty sure no one beats the number of absolutely insane posts HolyBaikal has made over the years. There are some weird fucks on GAF, but she (I think that's what they identify as?) takes the cake.

don't think anyone will top that lycanthrope loon who seethed with hate whenever he thought of cows and was annoyed that he'd have to buy a dog if he wanted to kick it to death.

I totally forgot about this dude. I'm sure he's either working as a butcher now or in a psych ward.

d'you remember his name? tried every kind of search term and can't find it.

Is it this dude? Not sure if the name matches up but the insanity is pretty impressive.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=894476

fuck me, he's still at it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=140700058&postcount=207

[Rise]

Holy shit, this broad's INSANE:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152177441&postcount=194

 

I still remember the time I got them to stop acting like a 10 year old girl for one post.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52338498&postcount=18914

All that because he literately wanted to delete his whole steam library because he didn't want to look at one game.  Never did find out what game it was.

saints row 3
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=84818513

[Sausage]

Also, Otrebor Nightmarecoat is the most bizarre gaf poster of all time. I'm sure that at the very least he was fucking his cousins and goats down in Mexico.

Otrebor was the GOAT.

[StealthFan]

The SA PS4 thread calling out Neofaggots about The Order and their fanboyism

[Rman]

Does anyone remember the time Blame Space and Timedog were gaf celebrities?

Haters say Timedog fell off. Hell, I say he was never funny.

He went from joke poster to SJW. It just didn't work.

[Jansen]

All you people in school or without full time work and responsibilities or a SO will one day see these games as a godsend. I just can't do these 15-20 hour games anymore. It took me 4 and a half months to find the time to beat TLoU.

If I saw three films in a theater back to back, or purchased 3 blurays, the cost and runtime would be the equivalent play time/dollar ratio spent on this game.

3 theater tickets = $65 for 5-6hrs of content (that you can't replay)

3 new Blurays = $50-$60 for 5-6hrs of content

New Game that 5-7 Hours long = $60

I dont understand the uproar over "short" games, when the cost/content ratio is the same for other newly released media. Especially when, like I mentioned before, a life full of responsibilities prevents me from playing games that are any longer then 5 to 7 hours.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152203289&postcount=580

  The Order

[StealthFan]

I can buy the five hour cut of Red Cliff for under twenty bucks

[nachobro]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152222351&postcount=973

Bish at the ready to suck cock and defend The Odor

[thisismyusername]

The SA PS4 thread calling out Neofaggots about The Order and their fanboyism

Gonna need photos, breh. Some of us won't pay :10bux: to post on a board.

[Mr. Nobody]

The SA PS4 thread calling out Neofaggots about The Order and their fanboyism

Is there any way us peasants can view this for free 

[meeb]

Does anyone remember the time Blame Space and Timedog were gaf celebrities?

Haters say Timedog fell off. Hell, I say he was never funny.

He went from joke poster to SJW. It just didn't work.

Yeah. I agree.

[helios]

The SA PS4 thread calling out Neofaggots about The Order and their fanboyism

Gonna need photos, breh. Some of us won't pay :10bux: to post on a board.

idk what to think of the Order if we're now getting impressions from neogaf, the biggest distinguished mentally-challenged fellow convention of bitter joyless "gamers"  are there actually any impressions yet from anyone who isn't human garbage

[headwalk]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152225804&postcount=1018

approaching fetishism.

[Broseidon]

I can buy the five hour cut of Red Cliff for under twenty bucks

buying Love Exposure for like 4 quid

[meeb]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152225804&postcount=1018

approaching fetishism.

I can't remember if Gafs outright worship of mods always existed, or if it just became a problem in recent years.

[Atramental]

Wasn't there a time when GAF mods had blue names like everyone else?

They should go back to that. 

[meeb]

Wasn't there a time when GAF mods had blue names like everyone else?

They should go back to that. 

Hmm I have some hypothesis. What year did Evilore get thin?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152225804&postcount=1018

approaching fetishism.

I can't remember if Gafs outright worship of mods always existed, or if it just became a problem in recent years.

Bishoptl worship has been around for a long time. 

[Shaka Khan]

I'm noticing some posts' order have been changed. Which cunt requested to deleted this time?

[kick51]

All you people in school or without full time work and responsibilities or a SO will one day see these games as a godsend. I just can't do these 15-20 hour games anymore. It took me 4 and a half months to find the time to beat TLoU.

If I saw three films in a theater back to back, or purchased 3 blurays, the cost and runtime would be the equivalent play time/dollar ratio spent on this game.

3 theater tickets = $65 for 5-6hrs of content (that you can't replay)

3 new Blurays = $50-$60 for 5-6hrs of content

New Game that 5-7 Hours long = $60

I dont understand the uproar over "short" games, when the cost/content ratio is the same for other newly released media. Especially when, like I mentioned before, a life full of responsibilities prevents me from playing games that are any longer then 5 to 7 hours.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152203289&postcount=580

  The Order

Or you could play the 20 hour game for the same amount of time you would play the 6 hour one each night, until you beat it?    

[thisismyusername]

All you people in school or without full time work and responsibilities or a SO will one day see these games as a godsend. I just can't do these 15-20 hour games anymore. It took me 4 and a half months to find the time to beat TLoU.

If I saw three films in a theater back to back, or purchased 3 blurays, the cost and runtime would be the equivalent play time/dollar ratio spent on this game.

3 theater tickets = $65 for 5-6hrs of content (that you can't replay)

3 new Blurays = $50-$60 for 5-6hrs of content

New Game that 5-7 Hours long = $60

I dont understand the uproar over "short" games, when the cost/content ratio is the same for other newly released media. Especially when, like I mentioned before, a life full of responsibilities prevents me from playing games that are any longer then 5 to 7 hours.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152203289&postcount=580

  The Order

Or you could play the 20 hour game for the same amount of time you would play the 6 hour one each night, until you beat it?   

While true: I don't think most people want to spend 2-3 months on a 20-40 hour title due to job/obligations. I have like 10+ titles I need to play off Steam

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Yes, I know I'm stupid for buying them before I'm done with stuff

[close]

but I generally will boot up Battlefield or whatever shooter I have because it's faster, I can play it in small chunks, and feel like I'm "progressing" faster than those longer JRPG/RPG titles.

That's not a knock against those titles. It's just the shorter bite-sized chunks are pretty much what some people/older gaming base want because they can feel like they completed them faster than the longer ones.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

There ain't enough white dicks in the world for Bish's uncle tom type ass to suck. Fuck him

[kick51]

All you people in school or without full time work and responsibilities or a SO will one day see these games as a godsend. I just can't do these 15-20 hour games anymore. It took me 4 and a half months to find the time to beat TLoU.

If I saw three films in a theater back to back, or purchased 3 blurays, the cost and runtime would be the equivalent play time/dollar ratio spent on this game.

3 theater tickets = $65 for 5-6hrs of content (that you can't replay)

3 new Blurays = $50-$60 for 5-6hrs of content

New Game that 5-7 Hours long = $60

I dont understand the uproar over "short" games, when the cost/content ratio is the same for other newly released media. Especially when, like I mentioned before, a life full of responsibilities prevents me from playing games that are any longer then 5 to 7 hours.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152203289&postcount=580

  The Order

Or you could play the 20 hour game for the same amount of time you would play the 6 hour one each night, until you beat it?   

While true: I don't think most people want to spend 2-3 months on a 20-40 hour title due to job/obligations. I have like 10+ titles I need to play off Steam

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Yes, I know I'm stupid for buying them before I'm done with stuff

[close]

but I generally will boot up Battlefield or whatever shooter I have because it's faster, I can play it in small chunks, and feel like I'm "progressing" faster than those longer JRPG/RPG titles.

That's not a knock against those titles. It's just the shorter bite-sized chunks are pretty much what some people/older gaming base want because they can feel like they completed them faster than the longer ones.

*shrug* I've always just played what I've wanted to play, even when my schedule was crazy.  There's no way I'd play a short cinematic setpiece game just because it's short.  Those posters that hail a game for being easy and short strike me as people who compulsively want to "win" or something.  Which is fine...until they come after franchises I like, which hasn't happened too much, thankfully.

but I also buy way more than I play, so I've got a nice wall of shame going. 

[headwalk]

*shrug* I've always just played what I've wanted to play, even when my schedule was crazy.  There's no way I'd play a short cinematic setpiece game just because it's short.  Those posters that hail a game for being easy and short strike me as people who compulsively want to "win" or something.  Which is fine...until they come after franchises I like, which hasn't happened too much, thankfully.

i dunno, look at brothers, that's short and cinematic and is all the better for it. the difference is it never takes you out of the game in order to tell its story, entwines the narrative with the game's mechanics, isn't full of film school freshman dialogue and is over before it runs out of ideas.

a developer can make a prescribed linear game which delivers a narrative without resorting to CD-i trash punctuated by occasionally being a shitty shooter.

[Stoney Mason]

There is nothing wrong with short games or long games. It all depends on the experience, the cost, and the value to the individual.

That being said GAF is normally all about knocking short linear set-piece games. That is until the short linear set-piece game has a defense force for platform exclusivity reasons.

This always happens there. There is always a set line of thinking on a subject until a platform exclusive does the same thing and then suddenly everybody is like no way. That thing we all said a month, a year ago, etc is bullshit!

[octopushover]

*shrug* I've always just played what I've wanted to play, even when my schedule was crazy.  There's no way I'd play a short cinematic setpiece game just because it's short.  Those posters that hail a game for being easy and short strike me as people who compulsively want to "win" or something.  Which is fine...until they come after franchises I like, which hasn't happened too much, thankfully.

i dunno, look at brothers, that's short and cinematic and is all the better for it. the difference is it never takes you out of the game in order to tell its story, entwines the narrative with the game's mechanics, isn't full of film school freshman dialogue and is over before it runs out of ideas.

a developer can make a prescribed linear game which delivers a narrative without resorting to CD-i trash punctuated by occasionally being a shitty shooter.

i wouldn't pay $60 for brothers though

[kick51]

Brothers isnt the kind of thing im looking for in gaming at all to begin with, so i guess when it comes to finding game+narrative balance, im not too qualified.  My taste is all over the place with that stuff in gaming and id almost rather go for ironic fun over finding a legitimately good narrative.  Im more discerning with other media. I wont read a trashy book or watch many throwaway  movies or shows, but somehow, some crappy jrpgs make the cut lol

But above all, if its 20 hours of good gameplay, ill take that an hour a night for 20 days vs a 6 hour polished set piece to finish for the sake of finishing.

[nudemacusers]

the five stages of grief in the order game stanning

denial -"anyone completing this game in 5 hours is obviously just rushing through the game and playing on easy"

anger - "if anyone rates this low they better go back and rate other TPS games just as poorly!" "anyone uploading gameplay footage is breaking the release and doing it for clicks or an anti-sony agenda" "<insert vague mealymouth bias assertion directed at anyone posting a negative impression>"

bargaining - "maybe the sequel will fix everything"

depression -  "i'm just too busy to invest my time for lengthy games anyway"

acceptance - "well the devs set out to give me a short, cinematic, 100% linear experience with excessive handholding and QTEs and if that's exactly what I get then I'm happy"

[dmj]

The Order is so bad.

I'm 90 minutes into the playthrough posted on YT that clocks in at around 5 hours and this is some boring shit. The people defending this game are gonna be really mad that they wasted their time defending something this generic.  The mental hoops people are going through to rationalize their purchase of a game sight unseen is pathetic, to say the least.

[Joe Molotov]

Holy shit, this broad's INSANE:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152177441&postcount=194

 

I still remember the time I got them to stop acting like a 10 year old girl for one post.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52338498&postcount=18914

All that because he literately wanted to delete his whole steam library because he didn't want to look at one game.  Never did find out what game it was.

It was Saints Row 3 iirc.

[recursivelyenumerable]

That's the down side with a high traffic board like NeoGAF.  Posting a thoughtful and nuanced opinion is a surefire way of getting ignored.  So if people want to be known on GAF, they have to crank up the hyperbole and try to be an internet personality.  With The Bore, there are just a couple dozen regulars so being some wacky zany guy who really loves Sony won't get you very far because those types of people are annoying as fuck in real life.

I've long thought the basic web forum format, with 1-3 flat lists of flat threads that get auto-bumped on posts, just inherently doesn't scale to the size of GAF's membership. If I were in charge I'd try to completely rethink the structure and interface of the forum and how posting and threads work, etc.

Everyone would hate it because everyone always hates conceptual redesigns like that. But I'd do it anyway.

[ToxicAdam]

It's kind of hilarious that Angry Birds has more actual gameplay in it than The Order does. Yet those people that vehemently decry mobile gaming as the cancer of gaming will never acknowledge it.

[nudemacusers]

gaf impressions™ official op yesterday:

The Order 1886 is for lovers of old fashioned single player experiences. For those who want to see strong efforts in storytelling-focused games make a comeback. It's a highly curated museum piece for old-timey, story driven videogames, and if you cherish having a collection of finely produced games, then that's the value of The Order in a nutshell. If you're excited for a strong new IP with endless possibilities and want to see RAD put out new iterations of this level of quality, then give them the nod. I already have.


gaf impressions™ official op today:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152259866&postcount=1238

(spoilers)