Author Topic: Bloodstained: Ritual Of The Night And Curse Of The Moon! (Read 126922 times)

Akala · « **Reply #480 on:** June 18, 2019, 11:34:01 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on June 18, 2019, 10:30:52 PM

This is the tits.

Badly tattooed at that.

kingv · « **Reply #481 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:28:52 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on June 18, 2019, 09:03:39 PM

Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 18, 2019, 09:01:06 PM
If you're a sidescrolling platformer and not hitting 60fps in 2019, I'm gonna ask some questions.

Mostly: what the fuck were they thinking.

This is true though.

Getting this on PC because of the 30fps.

It’s not like the switch cant handle it. This is made on unity isn’t it? Unity games always run like trash.

TVC15 · « **Reply #482 on:** June 19, 2019, 01:17:57 AM »

Unreal.

Bebpo · « **Reply #483 on:** June 19, 2019, 02:24:40 AM »

Played some of this. Pretty cool. I'd forgotten Igavania's had the absorb enemy ability thing. Definitely separates it from all the other Metroidvanias in the last bunch of years. The gotta catch 'em all feel is strong. Also forgot about the different weapons (I haven't re-played SoTN since the PS1 classic came out on PS3, so it's been a while).

Music is a total pleasure. Missed that style Yamane.

Only thing I'm not 100% on is the character movement, I guess if I went back to SotN the physics are probably pretty close to this, but compared to stuff like Hollow Knight or Guacamelee the controls feel a lot slower/floatier than I'm used to in metroidvania's these days.

Bebpo · « **Reply #484 on:** June 19, 2019, 04:00:55 AM »

The art direction in this game is really on point. Lot of nice looking areas already.

bork · « **Reply #485 on:** June 19, 2019, 07:49:25 AM »

PS4 version is currently borked.

https://twitter.com/GameSack/status/1141196388664872965

Rufus · « **Reply #486 on:** June 19, 2019, 08:46:31 AM »

Target half-a-dozen platforms on a shoestring budget? Shit happens.

kingv · « **Reply #487 on:** June 19, 2019, 10:03:58 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on June 19, 2019, 01:17:57 AM

Unreal.

Maybe it will get fixed. I really gotta see impressions next week I think. If the frame rate is steady it will probably be passable.

TVC15 · « **Reply #488 on:** June 19, 2019, 11:49:08 AM »

It’s buggy. In three hours, I managed to make an item in my inventory disappear and twice I haven’t been able to pick up an enemy drop. This is with the patch. On pS4 Pro.

Himu · « **Reply #489 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:17:19 PM »

what is curse of the moon? i thought bloodstained was out because people are talking about it but apparently there was curse of the moon last year? Is ROTN dlc?

Rufus · « **Reply #490 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:20:54 PM »

NES-style appetizer. Been out for a while.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/838310/Bloodstained_Curse_of_the_Moon/

TVC15 · « **Reply #491 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:28:20 PM »

You’ll love ROTN, Cindi. It’s like a fist in the ass and a cock in the mouth.

Himu · « **Reply #492 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:30:11 PM »

Quote from: Rufus on June 19, 2019, 12:20:54 PM

NES-style appetizer. Been out for a while.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/838310/Bloodstained_Curse_of_the_Moon/

Appetizer? That's the main damn course. There are only two Igavania's worth their shit, maybe three - Symphony and Aria. I vastly prefer classic Castlevania so I didn't know this was a thing, and holy fuck I might have to get this eventually.

TVC15 · « **Reply #493 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:34:16 PM »

I only love SOTN. The others were fun but ultimately forgettable and samey.

Svejk · « **Reply #494 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:34:30 PM »

It's good. It has branching paths, huge bosses and multiple characters to switch on the fly.

TVC15 · « **Reply #495 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:35:04 PM »

And they were on very shitty hardware.

Himu · « **Reply #496 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:36:48 PM »

Quote from: Svejk on June 19, 2019, 12:34:30 PM

It's good. It has branching paths, huge bosses and multiple characters to switch on the fly.

HardcoreRetro · « **Reply #497 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:38:55 PM »

It's basically a Castlevania 3 fan-game.

Himu · « **Reply #498 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:39:50 PM »

CV III is the best Vania

MMaRsu · « **Reply #499 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:46:03 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 19, 2019, 12:30:11 PM

Quote from: Rufus on June 19, 2019, 12:20:54 PM
NES-style appetizer. Been out for a while.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/838310/Bloodstained_Curse_of_the_Moon/
There are only two Igavania's worth their shit, maybe three - Symphony and Aria.

Tasty · « **Reply #500 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:53:52 PM »

Curse of the Moon is *fantastic*. If it were longer it'd be way more my type of shit than Shovel Knight, etc.

Linear 2D 'Vania

Castlevania III :: Curse of the Moon
Symphony of the Night :: Ritual of the Night

Tasty · « **Reply #501 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:55:22 PM »

Wouldn't surprise me if I end up liking Curse more than Ritual at the end of the day, lol.

Himu · « **Reply #502 on:** June 19, 2019, 12:58:46 PM »

I don't hate easy games. As long as the games are good I'll have fun

TVC15 · « **Reply #503 on:** June 19, 2019, 01:00:22 PM »

Early in ROTN, I’d say normal is about SOTN difficulty, with bosses that (so far) are a bit tougher (they were all first time cakewalks in SOTN).

TVC15 · « **Reply #504 on:** June 19, 2019, 01:01:34 PM »

The shards system also seems like it could lead to the fun kind of game breaking/min maxing. We’ll see.

Himu · « **Reply #505 on:** June 19, 2019, 01:01:52 PM »

How does Bloodstained promise to be refreshing? Metroidvania has exploded in recent in years and the formula was wearing thin with CV by the time Portrait and Ecclesia dropped.

TVC15 · « **Reply #506 on:** June 19, 2019, 01:08:48 PM »

I don’t think refreshing is a selling point on this game, but if it helps, at least you won’t be dealing with the same enemies with the same attack patterns using sprites from the SNES and PS1 again. Changing the movement pattern of Castlevania bats = Igavania innovation.

paprikastaude · « **Reply #507 on:** June 19, 2019, 01:23:45 PM »

no street dates broken and tomorrow is public holiday.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #508 on:** June 19, 2019, 01:24:45 PM »

It is heartwarming seeing this on torrents

Bebpo · « **Reply #509 on:** June 19, 2019, 01:32:49 PM »

lol, this game is going to sell incredibly well. I don't think there's any worry about that. Everyone on my steam friend's list was playing this yesterday.

Himu · « **Reply #510 on:** June 19, 2019, 01:34:15 PM »

"Iga needs all the help he can get making these kinds of games again."

*five years later*

"Is anyone else sick of Bloodstained franchise? This is the sixth one in six years and the graphics haven't improved a bit. Is this wearing thin for anyone else?"

Trent Dole · « **Reply #511 on:** June 19, 2019, 01:43:59 PM »

Seeing how this one took four+ I kind of doubt they'd be able to shit them out that fast even with asset recycling.

Tasty · « **Reply #512 on:** June 19, 2019, 02:01:24 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 19, 2019, 01:34:15 PM

"Iga needs all the help he can get making these kinds of games again."

*five years later*

"Is anyone else sick of Bloodstained franchise? This is the sixth one in six years and the graphics haven't improved a bit. Is this wearing thin for anyone else?"

Human thinking changes in response to different contexts?!

bork · « **Reply #513 on:** June 19, 2019, 02:02:38 PM »

Quote from: MMaRsu on June 19, 2019, 01:24:45 PM

It is heartwarming seeing this on torrents

(Image removed from quote.)

So you downloaded it?

Himu · « **Reply #514 on:** June 19, 2019, 02:07:38 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 19, 2019, 02:01:24 PM

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 19, 2019, 01:34:15 PM
"Iga needs all the help he can get making these kinds of games again."

*five years later*

"Is anyone else sick of Bloodstained franchise? This is the sixth one in six years and the graphics haven't improved a bit. Is this wearing thin for anyone else?"

Human thinking changes in response to different contexts?!

MMaRsu · « **Reply #515 on:** June 19, 2019, 02:19:41 PM »

Quote from: bork on June 19, 2019, 02:02:38 PM

Quote from: MMaRsu on June 19, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
It is heartwarming seeing this on torrents

(Image removed from quote.)

So you downloaded it?

Well yea before I bought it, to see if it would even work on my system which even though my pc is powerful enough some games don't support a certain subset of cpu instructions so that may screw me.

Strangely enough the Steam version was compatible with the pirate version save file wise? Oh well I just started over to get any ( havent looked at them ) achievements.
Was thinking of buying the DLC as well but 10 bucks .. eehs

Steam profile as proof of purchase

https://steamcommunity.com/id/MMaRsu

toku · « **Reply #516 on:** June 19, 2019, 03:11:42 PM »

All the GBA Iga games are worth it but Aria's the best with Circle close behind it. The DS games are weird but I know they have fans.

Tasty · « **Reply #517 on:** June 19, 2019, 03:15:54 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 19, 2019, 02:07:38 PM

Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 19, 2019, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 19, 2019, 01:34:15 PM
"Iga needs all the help he can get making these kinds of games again."

*five years later*

"Is anyone else sick of Bloodstained franchise? This is the sixth one in six years and the graphics haven't improved a bit. Is this wearing thin for anyone else?"

Human thinking changes in response to different contexts?!

MMaRsu · « **Reply #518 on:** June 19, 2019, 03:16:19 PM »

Yeah Circle is awesome. It was actually my first Metroidvania game ever as I didn't even play SOTN till it came out on the 360. Probably never knew it even existed back in the PS1 days. Never played a demo of it, and I played so many demo's haha. I probably would have loved it then too.

So weird then how I never bothered to buy the other two GBA games. I will probably have to rectify that mistake pretty soon.

Tasty · « **Reply #519 on:** June 19, 2019, 03:16:52 PM »

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Tasty · « **Reply #520 on:** June 19, 2019, 03:17:50 PM »

Quote from: toku on June 19, 2019, 03:11:42 PM

All the GBA Iga games are worth it but Aria's the best with Circle close behind it. The DS games are weird but I know they have fans.

What's the main differences between the DS and GBA games? Because at the time the impression I got was the DS games were the new hotness, especially Ecclesia.

Steve Youngblood · « **Reply #521 on:** June 19, 2019, 03:46:08 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 19, 2019, 03:17:50 PM

Quote from: toku on June 19, 2019, 03:11:42 PM
All the GBA Iga games are worth it but Aria's the best with Circle close behind it. The DS games are weird but I know they have fans.

What's the main differences between the DS and GBA games? Because at the time the impression I got was the DS games were the new hotness, especially Ecclesia.

Dawn of Sorrow is a pretty good follow-up to Aria that suffers from bad anime art and touch screen gimmicks. Ecclesia is good and makes some strides towards making a Castlevania game that's not piss easy again. It's a bit different though and not everyone loves that. A significant chunk of the game takes place in completely segmented off sub-levels that are often way more linear than the open castle design you're used to exploring. For that matter, just getting to Dracula's Castle at all involves an annoying fetch quest of saving all the villagers.

Portrait of Ruin I barely remember outside of it being the one where you switched between two characters on the fly, right? I liked it at the time, but it left no lasting impression clearly.

Himu · « **Reply #522 on:** June 19, 2019, 03:54:05 PM »

Circle of the Moon - the best and most well rounded Igavania not named Aria or Symphony

Harmony of Disspnance - poop

Aria of Sorrow - finally a successor to SotN. Has the most interesting plot in a Castlevania game. Contender for favorite Metroidvania and overlooked because of its big brother Symphony.

Dawn of Sorrow - I made a custom weapon in this and used it 3/4 the entire game. Horrible QA. Boring follow up to Aria besides Julius mode which rocks.

Portrait of Ruin - uses interesting JONATHON!!!! CHARLOTTE!!!!! gimmick, has more classic Castlevania-isms to it than previous games but is ultimately forgettable.

Order of Ecclesia - fun at first but gets boring quick. Never finished was done with Igavania and hoping he was kicked from Castlevania after it. He was.

Himu · « **Reply #523 on:** June 19, 2019, 04:28:41 PM »

Order’s main character design is one of the best of all time. Agreed.

Bloodstained main character looks rad too.

Did they ever manage to get Kojima involved in Bloodstained?

MMaRsu · « **Reply #524 on:** June 19, 2019, 04:31:35 PM »

How is Harmony of Despair? I see that is available for the 360 but I never played it, its bc too

Himu · « **Reply #525 on:** June 19, 2019, 04:32:55 PM »

Quote from: MMaRsu on June 19, 2019, 04:31:35 PM

How is Harmony of Despair? I see that is available for the 360 but I never played it, its bc too

It has its fans. It’s basically multiplayer Igavania. Sceneman is big on it. He’s the guy to go to about that.

I checked out on Igavania after of Order so I never bothered to play it beyond the demo.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #526 on:** June 19, 2019, 04:35:07 PM »

Harmony of Despair is some weird shit. The gimmick is that you can hit a button and show THE ENTIRE FUCKING CASTLE AT ONCE on a 1080p display which I was like fuuuuuuuck that's awesome. I think it's best played in Coop? It's a weird game for sure.

Playing Portrait of Ruin right now and having a great time. It's the only one of the DS games I hadn't played.

toku · « **Reply #527 on:** June 19, 2019, 04:50:58 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 19, 2019, 03:54:05 PM

Aria of Sorrow - finally a successor to SotN. Has the most interesting plot in a Castlevania game. Contender for favorite Metroidvania and overlooked because of its big brother Symphony.

I think Iga agrees with you (us) too. Didn't he say in an interview or something that if he could go back to castlevania and do 100% what he wanted he'd go back to this modern timeline and do another fight against dracula again properly or something like that. The main impression being he wanted to do another contemporary set CV.

Beezy · « **Reply #528 on:** June 19, 2019, 04:59:07 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 19, 2019, 04:32:55 PM

Quote from: MMaRsu on June 19, 2019, 04:31:35 PM
How is Harmony of Despair? I see that is available for the 360 but I never played it, its bc too

It has its fans. It’s basically multiplayer Igavania. Sceneman is big on it. He’s the guy to go to about that.

I checked out on Igavania after of Order so I never bothered to play it beyond the demo.

It was amazing if you had at least one other person to play with. I can't imagine playing it alone.

Occam · « **Reply #529 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:21:01 PM »

Just got my digital code. The pain is over.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #530 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:21:33 PM »

Damn ok so no buy then

Anyway just met Todd in Bloodstained! Wow!

Bebpo · « **Reply #531 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:26:35 PM »

I liked all the igavanias /shrug

Except the weird one with touch controls.

Chooky · « **Reply #532 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:43:19 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 19, 2019, 04:28:41 PM

Did they ever manage to get Kojima involved in Bloodstained?

Chooky · « **Reply #533 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:45:27 PM »

Quote from: toku on June 19, 2019, 04:50:58 PM

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 19, 2019, 03:54:05 PM

Aria of Sorrow - finally a successor to SotN. Has the most interesting plot in a Castlevania game. Contender for favorite Metroidvania and overlooked because of its big brother Symphony.

I think Iga agrees with you (us) too. Didn't he say in an interview or something that if he could go back to castlevania and do 100% what he wanted he'd go back to this modern timeline and do another fight against dracula again properly or something like that. The main impression being he wanted to do another contemporary set CV.

he said recently he had ideas for two more CV games, with one of them being the backstory to Aria. no hint as to the other one.

Occam · « **Reply #534 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:45:53 PM »

Installed. Here we go!

Bebpo · « **Reply #535 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:46:16 PM »

Did Kojima not design the characters? I just assumed she did since they look very usual CV post-SoTN.

Himu · « **Reply #536 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:49:59 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on June 19, 2019, 05:26:35 PM

I liked all the igavanias /shrug

Except the weird one with touch controls.

Dawn.

Himu · « **Reply #537 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:51:09 PM »

Quote from: Chooky on June 19, 2019, 05:43:19 PM

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 19, 2019, 04:28:41 PM
Did they ever manage to get Kojima involved in Bloodstained?

Dear God

Quote from: Bebpo on June 19, 2019, 05:46:16 PM

Did Kojima not design the characters? I just assumed she did since they look very usual CV post-SoTN.

As of the original KS, Kojima was not involved

Nintex · « **Reply #538 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:57:07 PM »

I remember something about "The battle of 1999" being part of the Igavania hype back in the day.

For the Igavania's the sales dried up but so did the marketing and advertising.
Konami pushed other games (most notably Metal Gear Solid) much more than Castlevania which sort of became this sideshow on handhelds.

Handhelds also have sort of the same lifecycle where early in their lifespans the teens/adults would be the key audience and this sort of game would do well.
However, by year 4 or 5 the library would mostly focus on kids with smaller (cheaper) models.

It didn't help that Iga's series burned out just before downloadable indie games on console became popular and handheld gaming was expected to be replaced by smartphones.

Anyhow, did my part and placed my order today.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #539 on:** June 19, 2019, 06:03:43 PM »

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Author Topic: Bloodstained: Ritual Of The Night And Curse Of The Moon! (Read 126922 times)