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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2820 on: December 02, 2018, 06:27:44 PM »
More revealed than just Negan- Armor King and Craig Marduk will be playable tomorrow! 

The Armor King trailer has a Julia tease at the end.





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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2824 on: December 06, 2018, 02:10:16 PM »
This is why the fgc doesn't like smashers.

FGC is trash.


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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2825 on: December 06, 2018, 02:14:15 PM »
it's literally one smash person lmao. also this is like the 7952465786234875678324th this same discussion is happening over the same bullshit. :zzz

yeah yeah arcade roots, yeah yeah everyone can play, shut the fuck up now thx. having gone between smash and fgc scenes both locally and at big events i've not seen this kind of gatekeeping in person ever. not saying it doesn't happen but it's not some major thing where big players are kicking regular joes to the curb at every possible opportunity.

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2826 on: December 08, 2018, 12:47:00 AM »
Million Arthur: Arcana Blood (PS4) released under the looming shadow of Smash Ultimate last week.  I wasn't going to import this, but someone who worked on the game said recently that there were no plans to localize it, so I went ahead and ordered it. 

MAAB is, as the name might suggest, a 2D fighting game from the same people behind the Arcana Heart series and Nitroplus Blasterz, based on Square Enix's Million Arthur franchise that I know absolutely nothing about.  This game also has Iori Yagami from KOF as a guest character and Lise from Seiken Densetsu 3, because hey Square I guess.  I also read that two characters are from Han-Gyaku-Sei Million Arthur and Lord of Vermillion IV, and that means nothing to me because I don't know a thing about them!

Anyway, MAAB is both A) Arcana Team's best-looking 2D fighter to date, with a super, super clean look, and B) a pretty fun little fighter.  There's only 13 characters to play as, but there's also 31 support characters and these can be selected in teams of three and called out during battle to act as additional special moved and for use in combos.  Akira Oono from High Score Girl (hey, I know that one!) is also a guest support character.

So, the game looks nice and plays pretty well...so what's the problem?  Nothing if you're gonna play with some buddies locally who might want to check it out.  But this is a virtually-unknown fighting game that is probably not going to sell very well and that nobody is going to play online, and that kind of sucks, but it's understandable.  Maybe it will find a niche fanbase.  I found a video of it being played in a 'Murican tournament recently!

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2827 on: December 14, 2018, 04:24:40 PM »
King of PS2 Graphics '14 for $15. :patrice

Might go cheaper during the Steam winter sale though.

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2828 on: December 14, 2018, 08:51:09 PM »
double-dipping in the age of season passes sucks.  :'(

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2829 on: December 15, 2018, 09:48:25 AM »
Arc System Works is at it again with Granblue Fantasy Versus.  New 2D fighter!

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2830 on: December 15, 2018, 04:48:18 PM »
i cannot believe that's a game. It looks even more of an anime than DBFZ and GG. Holy fuck balls.
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« Reply #2831 on: December 15, 2018, 04:48:41 PM »
also the main chick is hot
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2833 on: December 15, 2018, 06:15:46 PM »
it's literally one smash person lmao. also this is like the 7952465786234875678324th this same discussion is happening over the same bullshit. :zzz

yeah yeah arcade roots, yeah yeah everyone can play, shut the fuck up now thx. having gone between smash and fgc scenes both locally and at big events i've not seen this kind of gatekeeping in person ever. not saying it doesn't happen but it's not some major thing where big players are kicking regular joes to the curb at every possible opportunity.

dashizwiz isn't that good so the whole thing is stupid. He isn't even in the top 100 in the Melee rankings.  It's not like plup or leffen are charging him when they play friendlies.
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2834 on: December 16, 2018, 12:39:56 AM »
silentscope helped me get cvs2 for dolphin and I'm shocked runs silky smooth on my i3 computer. Now i can play it online!
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2835 on: December 16, 2018, 10:21:58 PM »
So supposedly, Evil Evil Ryu is the last SF5 character? :doge

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« Reply #2836 on: December 16, 2018, 10:50:58 PM »
So supposedly, Evil Evil Ryu is the last SF5 character? :doge

No.

He's the first character of season 4.  I'm disappointed that they went for an "Evil" character to take up one of the slots and that they didn't reveal anyone else.  I liked how the last season showed everybody pretty much right away.  But he seems more interesting than Ryu at least.

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« Reply #2837 on: December 16, 2018, 10:56:53 PM »
So my drive-by comment after watching that vid is does anyone in the FGC (aka who V is marketed towards) really want more shotos? Like I don't get why they are bothering to make more characters like this for the game.

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« Reply #2838 on: December 16, 2018, 11:15:34 PM »
So my drive-by comment after watching that vid is does anyone in the FGC (aka who V is marketed towards) really want more shotos? Like I don't get why they are bothering to make more characters like this for the game.

People wanted Akuma, which is understandable, but can't say I've seen people calling for Evil Ryu or Oni to return.  Kage appears to be kind of like of both of them combined into one character.  Now, if this were DAN, I'd be hype as fuck.

I was really hoping they'd announce season 4 with Rose.   :'(

There's also a truckload of balance changes that dropped, too.  Might change the landscape for character usage and tiers.
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« Reply #2839 on: December 16, 2018, 11:22:23 PM »
So my drive-by comment after watching that vid is does anyone in the FGC (aka who V is marketed towards) really want more shotos? Like I don't get why they are bothering to make more characters like this for the game.

Uh, yes. I want more zoning characters, shotos or not. The game has far too many anti-zoning tools. Kage of course, does not display zoning tools at all in the trailer and is a combo fuck fest. And also of course, Kage has an anti-fireball move. Fuck SFV. I guess I'll have to wait for a set up character like Decapre to show up. With SFV they always do something to interest me and go a step forward (Sagat, G), and somehow two steps back.
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2843 on: December 19, 2018, 12:55:15 AM »
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2844 on: December 19, 2018, 08:37:38 PM »

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« Reply #2845 on: December 19, 2018, 09:13:06 PM »
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2848 on: December 21, 2018, 08:50:48 PM »
ahahaha what
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2849 on: December 21, 2018, 11:24:13 PM »
ahahaha what

The quick rundown is that Dragonball FighterZ isn't in Evo Japan and other majors. Supposedly, it's the licensor or whatever causing issues.

And just as I bought a copy on Steam hours earlier for a local person that plays. I'm sorry, guys! :lol

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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2851 on: December 22, 2018, 06:52:20 PM »
they really are killin dbfz in tourneys :crazy
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« Reply #2852 on: December 22, 2018, 11:11:29 PM »
That's just fucking nutso if true. 
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2853 on: December 23, 2018, 02:02:08 AM »
Not at evo japan or anime ascension
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2856 on: January 03, 2019, 11:31:21 AM »
My experience with 3S and 3S players ngl.



I've given up on ever "getting" that game. I just don't like it.
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2857 on: January 03, 2019, 12:46:47 PM »
Bork did you end up playing this last year?

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« Reply #2858 on: January 03, 2019, 12:53:39 PM »
Yeah, it was pretty fun and really easy to pick up and play.  I say "was" because the online population started small and quickly died off after a couple of weeks.  :-\ 

They came up with a good idea for the control scheme and you can play this game easily with any kind of controller.  LOL at the comments shitting on it in that YT video.  Interesting seeing that Arc's Granblue Fantasy fighting game will also be using a one-button special move system.
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2859 on: January 03, 2019, 12:57:27 PM »
Re: The Dragonball FighterZ situation- Toei said it wasn't them.
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« Reply #2860 on: January 03, 2019, 01:05:34 PM »
Re: The Dragonball FighterZ situation- Toei said it wasn't them.
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« Reply #2861 on: January 03, 2019, 01:19:19 PM »
eh i think people relaxed a bit once harada made the announcement that he's now running esports for namco and there will be both official dbfz/t7/soul events AND support of non-official events for those games in 2019.

https://twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/1078194503679393792


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« Reply #2863 on: January 08, 2019, 07:13:10 AM »
Holy shit, that's a massive drop-off. 

In other news, DOA6 got delayed to 3/1.   :'(
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« Reply #2864 on: January 08, 2019, 09:56:13 AM »
I can see one other big difference between those two lists.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And it's not ARMS or SoulCal.
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« Reply #2865 on: January 08, 2019, 09:57:33 AM »
Re: The Dragonball FighterZ situation- Toei said it wasn't them.
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« Reply #2866 on: January 08, 2019, 10:19:45 AM »
I can see one other big difference between those two lists.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And it's not ARMS or SoulCal.
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Smash isn’t at anime evo and it could be a Nintendo situation.
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« Reply #2867 on: January 08, 2019, 10:23:32 AM »
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« Reply #2868 on: January 08, 2019, 11:16:13 AM »
RIP EVO JAPAN

I haven't even paid attention to EVO Japan: What was the problem with it last year?

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« Reply #2869 on: January 08, 2019, 11:43:19 AM »
No major problems with it last year. This year is a bit of a flub in multiple ways:

1. Moved from Tokyo to Fukuoka, no one wants to travel there
2. Tournament games weren't announced until end of Nov for a tournament in Jan (in comparison EVO USA games are announced in Jan for an event in Aug)
3. It's gotten essentially no marketing or promotion, most people didn't even know registration was even open
4. Two major games were not allowed to be there due to publisher issues, Smash and DBFZ
5. No one even knows what the prize pool is or if there even is one (tournament is free to enter due to some weird Japanese laws or something)
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« Reply #2870 on: January 08, 2019, 03:07:24 PM »
1. Moved from Tokyo to Fukuoka, no one wants to travel there

:mindblown

LOL if there's no prize money- WTF are some of those pro-dudes even doing over there, then?  I see a few folks saying they're staying over in Japan for a few months.
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« Reply #2871 on: January 08, 2019, 03:27:53 PM »
This is the site for info on EVO Japan and there's a big zero in the prize section so who knows wtf is gonna be happening there.

https://www.evojapan.net/2019/outline_en/

IIRC the publishers kicked in the prizes last time. Some gave money and others (aka Nintendo with ARMS) gave a championship belt and a pat on the back :lol

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« Reply #2872 on: January 08, 2019, 05:03:30 PM »
I see a few folks saying they're staying over in Japan for a few months.

Some of them Patreon or whatever, which is just bizarre.

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« Reply #2873 on: January 08, 2019, 08:33:07 PM »
I see a few folks saying they're staying over in Japan for a few months.

Some of them Patreon or whatever, which is just bizarre.

I would say that for a lot of folks using Patreon.  But hey, can't knock the hustle if people want to give them money for streaming or whatever. 

Not FGC-related, but wasn't Spoony still getting $1000+ a month from Patreon when he pretty much stopped putting out content?  :lol :dizzy
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« Reply #2874 on: January 08, 2019, 08:34:44 PM »
Just looked and he's still getting money- $492 a month.  :lol
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« Reply #2875 on: January 08, 2019, 08:51:35 PM »
Pity and/or people who don't need to scrutinize recurring charges that much.

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« Reply #2876 on: January 09, 2019, 12:51:47 PM »


i've seen a lot of "how to fix street fighter 5" videos in my time and this is the first good one.

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« Reply #2877 on: January 09, 2019, 01:31:52 PM »
It's nice to see such a positive approach to it, too. 
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« Reply #2878 on: January 09, 2019, 02:07:03 PM »


i've seen a lot of "how to fix street fighter 5" videos in my time and this is the first good one.

A lot of his complaints are why I don't play it. I'm surprised he loves it. All those reasons are why SFV isn't the best and why I doubt it'll be fixed. It's an overly offensive game without the defensive mechanics to match. I'm not asking for it to be like SFIV with all of its defense tools and tech, but games that are often in your face like 3S or GG have defensive mechanics that nullify offense. SFV is basically Guilty Gear without burst or FD or SFIII without parries. This is precisely why SFV is not a "great" fighting game as he says at the beginning of the video. He brings up GG, but ignores that GG has air dash, jump cancels, burst, faultless defense, and far more movement options that negate offense. Woshige basically made a Guilty Gear without the defense and movement tools of GG.

This is why SFV is a bad game: its design philosophy is undercooked.

If you want to improve SFV at this point give it Alpha/3S era and go wild. This means, give every character a super jump (SFIII), allow air blocking (alpha, Vsav), create a universal defense mechanic akin to parries (SFIII), guard cancels (Vsav), and the other shit from Alpha 2 and 3.

Here we have is a game he readily admits is something that can ignore SF fundamentals and yet he finds it to be a great fighting game. Different tastes, different strokes but I prefer to play a fundamentals oriented title.
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Re: Fighting Games Thread: The Soul Still Burns!
« Reply #2879 on: January 09, 2019, 02:28:10 PM »
That said, moves do need more pushback like he said.
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