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VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5880 on: December 13, 2016, 03:40:13 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1324601

The United Nations just shot themselves in the foot. I don't know how much the rest of you know about Feminist culture (I'm an expert), but comics and bondage are huge parts of it.

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Enjoy their "relate-able" new representative of the people then I guess....

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Is this fake news? This sounds like a hypothetical scenario the alt-right would bring up.

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This is manufactured outrage.

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Assholes. Diana IS a feminist icon and always will be.

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She's technically Themysciran (or Amazonian). She started as working for the US because she was created by a US comic artist, but there's nothing inherently American about her.

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Well, 2016 seems to be making its closing statement for why it deserves to be remembered as the worst year in recent memory so why not?

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She has a movie coming out, millions of girls consider Wonder Woman an iconic character. It made sense. The fact they removed her because she was a white girl with larger breasts is the most laughable part. No other female superhero comes close.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5881 on: December 13, 2016, 07:00:31 AM »
As Newsweek is hinting at a new article (apparently suggesting Turkey is using Trump holdings in their country to pressure him) :

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Obviously the best time to investigate and report on a Presidential candidate is after they've been elected. Unless it involves emails, but that goes without saying.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226502474&postcount=14424

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Rachel Maddow explained that writer Kurt Eichenwald has uncovered evidence

oh dear god, Kurt has had explosive Trump dirt since forever which ends up with him on twitter going into fits when it doesn't pan out.


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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5882 on: December 13, 2016, 08:54:05 AM »
lmfao ten #triggered posts in a row, excellent work sir
You have an awfully low bar for triggering as your definition seems to be 'a reply'

Yet the next ten replies were from nerds who were shocked someone doesn't think gafmods are the bookburning nazi squad ya'll make them out to be. Just funny to me that people in this thread, which has essentially become a bunch of contrarians whining about the kind-of left leaning political musings of children who play videogames, is so easily rustled by such a silly post, yet crow on-and-on about the damn mellinial essjaydubs and their coddled ass safe-spaces every chance they get

Himu

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5883 on: December 13, 2016, 09:03:25 AM »
Agreed. Gaf mods are pretty cool.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5884 on: December 13, 2016, 09:17:03 AM »
No one ever got banned for dissenting (non-bigoted) political viewpoints on GAF.

Fuck.  You.

'Obnoxious shit' and 'libertarian' are interchangeable terms.
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Momo

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5885 on: December 13, 2016, 09:22:59 AM »

lmfao ten #triggered posts in a row, excellent work sir
You have an awfully low bar for triggering as your definition seems to be 'a reply'

Yet the next ten replies were from nerds who were shocked someone doesn't think gafmods are the bookburning nazi squad ya'll make them out to be. Just funny to me that people in this thread, which has essentially become a bunch of contrarians whining about the kind-of left leaning political musings of children who play videogames, is so easily rustled by such a silly post, yet crow on-and-on about the damn mellinial essjaydubs and their coddled ass safe-spaces every chance they get
This is called getting triggered, congrats fella. When you have to make shit up to make a point, maybe you shouldn't.
EDIT: Let me rather give you more useful feedback.
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Yet the next ten replies were from nerds who were shocked someone doesn't think gafmods are the bookburning nazi squad ya'll make them out to be.
First and foremost, no, no one was in fact shocked that 'someone doesn't think gafmods are the bookburning nazi squad' this is the argument you made up  to justify your post.
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No one ever got banned for dissenting (non-bigoted) political viewpoints on GAF.No one ever got banned for dissenting (non-bigoted) political viewpoints on GAF.
The post we're actually replying to is ridiculous, and most people (I'm not going to defend JayDubya!) are essentially saying 'kek' and moving on till your post.
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Just funny to me that people in this thread, which has essentially become a bunch of contrarians whining about the kind-of left leaning political musings of children who play videogames, is so easily rustled by such a silly post, yet crow on-and-on about the damn mellinial essjaydubs and their coddled ass s afe-spaces every chance they get
No one was rustled, you can continue to paint this situation as such to justify yourself, but kek. You think this is a safe space? How many times do arguments in here have to be broken up by Final Fantasy rankings? Besides, do you think that poster came here to have a legit discussion?
« Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 09:47:42 AM by Momo »

daemon

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5886 on: December 13, 2016, 09:23:49 AM »
lmfao ten #triggered posts in a row, excellent work sir
You have an awfully low bar for triggering as your definition seems to be 'a reply'

Yet the next ten replies were from nerds who were shocked someone doesn't think gafmods are the bookburning nazi squad ya'll make them out to be. Just funny to me that people in this thread, which has essentially become a bunch of contrarians whining about the kind-of left leaning political musings of children who play videogames, is so easily rustled by such a silly post, yet crow on-and-on about the damn mellinial essjaydubs and their coddled ass safe-spaces every chance they get

So he was effectively the left guy on this picture?


Also the NeoGAF moderators are interferences to conversations. Not every moderator of course. Then you have modbot, that is a way for them to not even own up to their actions. Also we have the whole thing about how they try to be snarky when they ban you, instead of trying to explain which unwritten rule you actually broke.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 09:28:38 AM by daemon »

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5887 on: December 13, 2016, 09:24:39 AM »
Yet the next ten replies were from nerds who were shocked someone doesn't think gafmods are the bookburning nazi squad ya'll make them out to be. Just funny to me that people in this thread, which has essentially become a bunch of contrarians whining about the kind-of left leaning political musings of children who play videogames, is so easily rustled by such a silly post, yet crow on-and-on about the damn mellinial essjaydubs and their coddled ass safe-spaces every chance they get
It did amuse me a lot when Stufte poked his head out of this thread only to announce his return to it a couple of posts later. :lol

Sorry Stufte, no hard feelings. :doge

Momo

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5888 on: December 13, 2016, 09:49:08 AM »
No offense JayDubya, but I dont know you well enough to know what is satire and what is real :doge

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5889 on: December 13, 2016, 10:03:02 AM »
:rejoice not writing essays until the night before it's due and getting an A :rejoice
:rejoice writing essays until the night before it's due and getting an A :rejoice

You disgust me.

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Last weekend I wrote a 139 page document for work :snob
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5890 on: December 13, 2016, 10:06:24 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1324601

:comeon Come on GAF, you've been a proponent for this kind of thing for years and now you're all like "Why would people do this?"
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5891 on: December 13, 2016, 10:10:24 AM »
and the linked original thread is full of folks bitching about it was a bad idea and how much the UN sucks  :lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1292375

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5892 on: December 13, 2016, 10:27:43 AM »
lmfao ten #triggered posts in a row, excellent work sir
You have an awfully low bar for triggering as your definition seems to be 'a reply'

Yet the next ten replies were from nerds who were shocked someone doesn't think gafmods are the bookburning nazi squad ya'll make them out to be. Just funny to me that people in this thread, which has essentially become a bunch of contrarians whining about the kind-of left leaning political musings of children who play videogames, is so easily rustled by such a silly post, yet crow on-and-on about the damn mellinial essjaydubs and their coddled ass safe-spaces every chance they get
my bad sry

zomgee

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5893 on: December 13, 2016, 10:43:32 AM »
lmfao ten #triggered posts in a row, excellent work sir
You have an awfully low bar for triggering as your definition seems to be 'a reply'

Yet the next ten replies were from nerds who were shocked someone doesn't think gafmods are the bookburning nazi squad ya'll make them out to be. Just funny to me that people in this thread, which has essentially become a bunch of contrarians whining about the kind-of left leaning political musings of children who play videogames, is so easily rustled by such a silly post, yet crow on-and-on about the damn mellinial essjaydubs and their coddled ass safe-spaces every chance they get

haha good one
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5894 on: December 13, 2016, 10:47:37 AM »
As terrible as this thread has gotten, we're going to pretend Gaf mods don't have serious problems still?  :neogaf

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FunSlower

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5895 on: December 13, 2016, 11:27:42 AM »
What is it about PoliGAF that makes the survivors of it all seem so jaded? Is it the toxic mix of My First Election with righteous indignation and moral superiority with a hard left doomsday clock clicking closer to midnight?

I'm curious what GAF communities are The Worst, as a Wrasslegaffer (we MUST be the worst, right?) but PoliGAF sure sounds like the most hellish nightmarescape o'er the land.

zomgee

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5896 on: December 13, 2016, 11:34:51 AM »
Well, it seems like lawnmowers we routinely deployed to community threads almost randomly. Most of the old NBA group left, correct? I don't know if that made them "the worst" but the community certainly dissolved.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5897 on: December 13, 2016, 11:44:45 AM »
Wrestling and Giant Bomb communities are near the bottom for sure. All the wrestling thread does is roleplay as wrestlers (yes really) and complain about everything WWE does while also watching all of it. Giant Bomb thread just bitches about no videos coming out until one does, then they talk about how much they dislike it.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5898 on: December 13, 2016, 11:48:17 AM »
All the wrestling thread does is roleplay as wrestlers (yes really)

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5899 on: December 13, 2016, 11:59:34 AM »
As far as PoliGAF that seems like a mix of their first election, all their political knowledge coming from movies and TV shows, being convinced by the media and the Democrats that a literal nuclear apocalypse is coming if the opposition wins, and being saddled with defending the mess that is Hillary Clinton. That's a recipe for a bad time.

Also benji's comparison to the console wars seems apt. They supported Xbox One and figured it would dominate cause wow 360 killed it but then Sony released the Orange PS4 and ruined all their Christmas plans.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5900 on: December 13, 2016, 12:08:00 PM »
All the wrestling thread does is roleplay as wrestlers (yes really)

 :brazilcry

it's fucking awful. one of the worst posters over there had surgery that left him bedridden for 3 months and he used it to post incessantly. End of a month had him with about 3x as many posts as the 2nd person with high post count. Crazy, awful shit.

I had him mixed up with the guy who admitted to pooping in the shower and stamping it down the drain, that was a good time. probably does the same thing.

seagrams hotsauce

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5901 on: December 13, 2016, 12:09:53 PM »
lol now i'm getting fisked haha. Again, I offered no comment on the quality of neogaf's mods or the original post. just amused how so many people who put so much stock in how bad gaf is and complain about how quickly people shut down dissent and dogpile on gaf get riled up because someone goes against the grain, pretty simple stuff

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5902 on: December 13, 2016, 12:13:15 PM »
As far as PoliGAF that seems like a mix of their first election, all their political knowledge coming from movies and TV shows, being convinced by the media and the Democrats that a literal nuclear apocalypse is coming if the opposition wins, and being saddled with defending the mess that is Hillary Clinton. That's a recipe for a bad time.

Also benji's comparison to the console wars seems apt. They supported Xbox One and figured it would dominate cause wow 360 killed it but then Sony released the Orange PS4 and ruined all their Christmas plans.

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Momo

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5903 on: December 13, 2016, 12:16:36 PM »

lol now i'm getting fisked haha. Again, I offered no comment on the quality of neogaf's mods or the original post. just amused how so many people who put so much stock in how bad gaf is and complain about how quickly people shut down dissent and dogpile on gaf get riled up because someone goes against the grain, pretty simple stuff
I mean there's going against the grain, which happens quite a bit in here, personally I find myself disagreeing with people and kinda butting heads a bit until we come to a happy mutual disgust of each other, then there's people posting straight garbage, which I will add people can do all they want if they want do, they just shouldn't really expect anything more than memes back.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5904 on: December 13, 2016, 12:27:48 PM »
I'm thinking this didn't go the way he wanted and now here we are  :doge

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5905 on: December 13, 2016, 12:37:17 PM »
I had him mixed up with the guy who admitted to pooping in the shower and stamping it down the drain, that was a good time. probably does the same thing.
close, he's the dude who made a thread about using baby wipes instead of showering.

Let's Cyber

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5906 on: December 13, 2016, 12:43:38 PM »
Many in PoliGAF will drift away before 2018, I'm sure.  I wonder what the younger, less experienced 2020 version of PoliGAF will look like?   :doge

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5907 on: December 13, 2016, 12:44:39 PM »
I had him mixed up with the guy who admitted to pooping in the shower and stamping it down the drain, that was a good time. probably does the same thing.
close, he's the dude who made a thread about using baby wipes instead of showering.

 :crazy
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5908 on: December 13, 2016, 12:46:34 PM »
:yeshrug

Since joining gaf in 2004 I have had about 20 something bans. All of them deserved besides the time wasabi king banned me for trolling Big made me uncomfortable because Elizabeth Perkins fucks and falls in love with a literal man child. My most recent ban was deserved. Is gaf perfect? No, but nothing is perfect. I'd say generally gaf mods have good interests at heart and don't set out to make their site some dictatorship like a lot of you say. That doesn't mean they don't fuck up sometimes, and that there isn't a lot of pettiness at work when certain people are banned but being that I used to moderate a fairly large board, I can tell you this isn't unique to gaf. Are there things to work on at gaf? Sure. But for the most part the staff are pretty chill and are willing to have your back if you present yourself in an amicable manner.

The fact that many mods post on this very forum to sometimes help out or explain some moderation decision should show you that for the most part they try and most people who are banned kind of deserved it. I think making an SA-styled leper's colony that tracks and lists all bans pubicly to all users of the site so we can see why you were banned would go a lot towards improving communication between staff and users at neogaf. When someone at gaf is banned all we see is that one ban. But put together a user may have racked up a whole slew of bans over the course of years and years justifying a perma. But we don't know that because we don't see that. If EviLore made information public (just put a link to their rap sheet in their profile) people would be more informed 1. What not to do, 2. Why people were banned, and 3. Put bans to faces so there's more context as to why people were banned than just seeing a gray name and wondering what happened.

By making users more in tune with the process you'd probably end up with less bitching about bans.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2016, 12:54:10 PM by Queen of Ice »
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5909 on: December 13, 2016, 12:51:42 PM »
Many people here also going to tell stories about undeserved bans, mods outright threatening others and how the road to hell is paved in good intentions.


The fact that many mods post on this very forum to sometimes help out or explain some moderation decision should show you that for the most part they try and most people who are banned kind of deserved it.

Didnt Steve Youngblood outright admited that the moderation was lacking?

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5910 on: December 13, 2016, 12:53:37 PM »
No one ever got banned for dissenting (non-bigoted) political viewpoints on GAF. People got banned for being obnoxious shits.

HAHAHA, well ain't that some bullshit.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5911 on: December 13, 2016, 12:54:19 PM »

Himu

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5912 on: December 13, 2016, 12:58:47 PM »
Many people here also going to tell stories about undeserved bans, mods outright threatening others and how the road to hell is paved in good intentions.


The fact that many mods post on this very forum to sometimes help out or explain some moderation decision should show you that for the most part they try and most people who are banned kind of deserved it.

Didnt Steve Youngblood outright admited that the moderation was lacking?

It probably is lacking but that doesn't mean they aren't working with what they've got.

Threatening people with a ban definitely should be dialed down. It's a message board. Undeserved bans will happen. Certainly something to work on but I don't think they're trying to make it a dictatorship or that undeserved bans are worth humoring beyond the initial chuckle of "haaaaaa, I got banned." Then again I'm in my thirties and couldn't care less than half a shit about a ban. Who cares lol.
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daemon

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5913 on: December 13, 2016, 01:00:50 PM »
:yeshrug

Since joining gaf in 2004 I have had about 20 something bans. All of them deserved besides the time wasabi king banned me for trolling Big made me uncomfortable because Elizabeth Perkins fucks and falls in love with a literal man child. My most recent ban was deserved. Is gaf perfect? No, but nothing is perfect. I'd say generally gaf mods have good interests at heart and don't set out to make their site some dictatorship like a lot of you say. That doesn't mean they don't fuck up sometimes, and that there isn't a lot of pettiness at work when certain people are banned but being that I used to moderate a fairly large board, I can tell you this isn't unique to gaf. Are there things to work on at gaf? Sure. But for the most part the staff are pretty chill and are willing to have your back if you present yourself in an amicable manner.

The fact that many mods post on this very forum to sometimes help out or explain some moderation decision should show you that for the most part they try and most people who are banned kind of deserved it. I think making an SA-styled leper's colony that tracks and lists all bans pubicly to all users of the site so we can see why you were banned would go a lot towards improving communication between staff and users at neogaf. When someone at gaf is banned all we see is that one ban. But put together a user may have racked up a whole slew of bans over the course of years and years justifying a perma. But we don't know that because we don't see that. If EviLore made information public (just put a link to their rap sheet in their profile) people would be more informed 1. What not to do, 2. Why people were banned, and 3. Put bans to faces so there's more context as to why people were banned than just seeing a gray name and wondering what happened.

By making users more in tune with the process you'd probably end up with less bitching about bans.

Did you:

-Insult other users
-Threaten/Divulge you were going to do illegal actions
-Derail a thread (meaning the thread effectively being drawn into another course)
-Make pointless posts such as "+1, . , this so much" constantly?

?

Yeah, guessed as much. NeoGAF is not strict moderation, it's interventionism. If you can't see that some people are treated in a lax manner, specially thanks to Jado leak, while they actively search for ways to ban user they have on the radar... well, get a new pair of glasses I guess?





But yeah we're making things up. Top notch moderation. And backed up by the owner that didn't force him to resign after admitting to go after a certain user.


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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5914 on: December 13, 2016, 01:02:25 PM »
lmfao ten #triggered posts in a row, excellent work sir
You have an awfully low bar for triggering as your definition seems to be 'a reply'

Yet the next ten replies were from nerds who were shocked someone doesn't think gafmods are the bookburning nazi squad ya'll make them out to be. Just funny to me that people in this thread, which has essentially become a bunch of contrarians whining about the kind-of left leaning political musings of children who play videogames, is so easily rustled by such a silly post, yet crow on-and-on about the damn mellinial essjaydubs and their coddled ass safe-spaces every chance they get


 The humongous difference being that we expressed ourselves through sarcasm or serious replies, not hysteria, not by being extremely rude or by asking discreetly or not for censorship of the individual. Unlike the sensitive snowflakes of that group we welcome opinions we can disagree with no matter how preposterous they are.

 And it was a preposterous opinion because the vast majority of us here have experiences of getting banned for wrongthink the last few years.

Boredfrom

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5915 on: December 13, 2016, 01:06:05 PM »
Many people here also going to tell stories about undeserved bans, mods outright threatening others and how the road to hell is paved in good intentions.


The fact that many mods post on this very forum to sometimes help out or explain some moderation decision should show you that for the most part they try and most people who are banned kind of deserved it.

Didnt Steve Youngblood outright admited that the moderation was lacking?

It probably is lacking but that doesn't mean they aren't working with what they've got.

Threatening people with a ban definitely should be dialed down. It's a message board. Undeserved bans will happen. Certainly something to work on but I don't think they're trying to make it a dictatorship or that undeserved bans are worth humoring beyond the initial chuckle of "haaaaaa, I got banned." Then again I'm in my thirties and couldn't care less than half a shit about a ban. Who cares lol.

Sometimes people just not only get threatened, but mods edit or delete posts that makes them look bad. Is not only that the mod process is not open or public, but that various mods outright benefit from it.

Himu

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5916 on: December 13, 2016, 01:10:13 PM »
That set of gaf rules you listed isn't much different than SA.

Except at SA you have to put a modicum of effort into your posts. No bad grammar, no one word posts, no memes;etc. It's far more interventionist than gaf.

I'm just used to it TBH. Gaf has to moderate hundreds of thousands of users a minute. If you want a more laid back experience just stick to smaller boards.

What mods edit or delete posts that make them look bad?
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5917 on: December 13, 2016, 01:10:25 PM »
:yeshrug

Since joining gaf in 2004 I have had about 20 something bans. All of them deserved besides the time wasabi king banned me for trolling Big made me uncomfortable because Elizabeth Perkins fucks and falls in love with a literal man child. My most recent ban was deserved. Is gaf perfect? No, but nothing is perfect. I'd say generally gaf mods have good interests at heart and don't set out to make their site some dictatorship like a lot of you say. That doesn't mean they don't fuck up sometimes, and that there isn't a lot of pettiness at work when certain people are banned but being that I used to moderate a fairly large board, I can tell you this isn't unique to gaf. Are there things to work on at gaf? Sure. But for the most part the staff are pretty chill and are willing to have your back if you present yourself in an amicable manner.

The fact that many mods post on this very forum to sometimes help out or explain some moderation decision should show you that for the most part they try and most people who are banned kind of deserved it. I think making an SA-styled leper's colony that tracks and lists all bans pubicly to all users of the site so we can see why you were banned would go a lot towards improving communication between staff and users at neogaf. When someone at gaf is banned all we see is that one ban. But put together a user may have racked up a whole slew of bans over the course of years and years justifying a perma. But we don't know that because we don't see that. If EviLore made information public (just put a link to their rap sheet in their profile) people would be more informed 1. What not to do, 2. Why people were banned, and 3. Put bans to faces so there's more context as to why people were banned than just seeing a gray name and wondering what happened.

By making users more in tune with the process you'd probably end up with less bitching about bans.


Shocking news of the day: Himuro wasn't banned for wrongthink in a forum where she agrees with the moderation's dogmas and tactics. Gee, I wonder why!

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5918 on: December 13, 2016, 01:12:42 PM »
it's fucking awful. one of the worst posters over there had surgery that left him bedridden for 3 months and he used it to post incessantly. End of a month had him with about 3x as many posts as the 2nd person with high post count. Crazy, awful shit.
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Boredfrom

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5919 on: December 13, 2016, 01:13:55 PM »
That set of gaf rules you listed isn't much different than SA.

Except at SA you have to put a modicum of effort into your posts. No bad grammar, no one word posts, no memes;etc. It's far more interventionist than gaf.

I'm just used to it TBH. Gaf has to moderate hundreds of thousands of users a minute. If you want a more laid back experience just stick to smaller boards.

What mods edit or delete posts that make them look bad?

By my personal experience, Besada.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5920 on: December 13, 2016, 01:19:42 PM »
That set of gaf rules you listed isn't much different than SA.

Except at SA you have to put a modicum of effort into your posts. No bad grammar, no one word posts, no memes;etc. It's far more interventionist than gaf.

I'm just used to it TBH. Gaf has to moderate hundreds of thousands of users a minute. If you want a more laid back experience just stick to smaller boards.

What mods edit or delete posts that make them look bad?

By my personal experience, Besada.
Yuppers. He deleted one of my posts that called him out. Then when I called him out on deleting my post I got permed. That was after a lot of deleting in other threads too.
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Himu

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5921 on: December 13, 2016, 01:19:54 PM »
:yeshrug

Since joining gaf in 2004 I have had about 20 something bans. All of them deserved besides the time wasabi king banned me for trolling Big made me uncomfortable because Elizabeth Perkins fucks and falls in love with a literal man child. My most recent ban was deserved. Is gaf perfect? No, but nothing is perfect. I'd say generally gaf mods have good interests at heart and don't set out to make their site some dictatorship like a lot of you say. That doesn't mean they don't fuck up sometimes, and that there isn't a lot of pettiness at work when certain people are banned but being that I used to moderate a fairly large board, I can tell you this isn't unique to gaf. Are there things to work on at gaf? Sure. But for the most part the staff are pretty chill and are willing to have your back if you present yourself in an amicable manner.

The fact that many mods post on this very forum to sometimes help out or explain some moderation decision should show you that for the most part they try and most people who are banned kind of deserved it. I think making an SA-styled leper's colony that tracks and lists all bans pubicly to all users of the site so we can see why you were banned would go a lot towards improving communication between staff and users at neogaf. When someone at gaf is banned all we see is that one ban. But put together a user may have racked up a whole slew of bans over the course of years and years justifying a perma. But we don't know that because we don't see that. If EviLore made information public (just put a link to their rap sheet in their profile) people would be more informed 1. What not to do, 2. Why people were banned, and 3. Put bans to faces so there's more context as to why people were banned than just seeing a gray name and wondering what happened.

By making users more in tune with the process you'd probably end up with less bitching about bans.


Shocking news of the day: Himuro wasn't banned for wrongthink in a forum where she agrees with the moderation's dogmas and tactics. Gee, I wonder why!

...don't mistake me defending them with saying I completely agree with them. If I were a staff member I'd be pretty laid back. Thank God I have forfeited my ability to ever be a staff member on that site. I don't agree with their "dogma" (lol) or their tactics always, but I do understand it.

As for wrong think, I told someone to fuck off. Alone this wouldn't be seen as too bad. But mods know my history and that I tend to insult people. Giving me as long a ban as I recieved is, surprise, basically a warning. They're being proactive so I'm not full out insulting people even if they ARE morons. If I insult someone I figure...mmmmmmm...I'll get a one month ban. This is where we head into dangerous territory and where you're close to getting on the sites shit list. But now that I know I shouldn't insult people because the staff is serious here, this should tell me how to behave going forward instead of bitching about how I'm being oppressed and wrongthink and whatever else.
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Himu

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5922 on: December 13, 2016, 01:21:55 PM »
So it's not the mod team you have trouble with but a specific mod?
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daemon

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5923 on: December 13, 2016, 01:22:38 PM »
That set of gaf rules you listed isn't much different than SA.

Except at SA you have to put a modicum of effort into your posts. No bad grammar, no one word posts, no memes;etc. It's far more interventionist than gaf.

I'm just used to it TBH. Gaf has to moderate hundreds of thousands of users a minute. If you want a more laid back experience just stick to smaller boards.

What mods edit or delete posts that make them look bad?

It's a tremendous effort, and we can't thank them enough. I love neogaf moderation team, they're great people

Please, the hyperbole. It's a forum with account approvals. Mine took 9 months to approve. Moderators shouldn't EVEN be looking. There should be a report button, and whoever abuses it gets the hammer. If the report is valid, person gets a warning / ban, but always stating the reason. The reason as to how they broke the ToS, not the imaginary rules set by the mod.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5924 on: December 13, 2016, 01:23:40 PM »
Shocking news of the day: Himuro wasn't banned for wrongthink in a forum where she agrees with the moderation's dogmas and tactics. Gee, I wonder why!
technically himuro was banned for wrongthink. no slut shaming  :wag :doge

most of the mod team is fine, just besada is pretty out there

also youngblood. can't trust him :maf

also whoever banned me for making a "vita is for pedophiles joke". come on!

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5925 on: December 13, 2016, 01:26:38 PM »
I think the moderation is a joke too, but some of y'all draw way too much importance to it.

 Some members here who never venture beyond this thread seem to be actually obsessed with GAF's mod team.

The reason I care so much is because the games industry is the industry that I work in and that supports my family. NeoGAF was for a long time, and still is to a certain extent the online face of our industry and its fans, and to see it run in such a way irritates the shit out of me. GAF should be a place for all voices, since games are for everyone, not just those who make sure not to say the wrong opinion of the week. If GAF didn't represent my industry, I wouldn't even be here bitching about it. 
:yeshrug

FunSlower

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5926 on: December 13, 2016, 01:28:23 PM »
Good lord, Benji. That's a heck of a Wall of Shame.

I'm currently banned so I can't give you numbers on esteemed member "bluekaveli" and his post count but I assure you, they're similar.

EDIT: with Stufte's av, that marks two Beautiful Big Dave Bautista avs here. I am happy.

daemon

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5927 on: December 13, 2016, 01:28:40 PM »
I think the moderation is a joke too, but some of y'all draw way too much importance to it.

 Some members here who never venture beyond this thread seem to be actually obsessed with GAF's mod team.

The reason I care so much is because the games industry is the industry that I work in and that supports my family. NeoGAF was for a long time, and still is to a certain extent the online face of our industry and its fans, and to see it run in such a way irritates the shit out of me. GAF should be a place for all voices, since games are for everyone, not just those who make sure not to say the wrong opinion of the week. If GAF didn't represent my industry, I wouldn't even be here bitching about it. 
:yeshrug

Ditto.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5928 on: December 13, 2016, 01:29:19 PM »
So it's not the mod team you have trouble with but a specific mod?
Dunno if that was directed to me. I think there are mods that believe in banning for wrong think. Bish was one, he's gone. Besada certainly another. There are a few others. Other mods like Charliequin and Cyan are stellar people. No problem there. But the thing is they only tend to ban when it's actually called for so they don't comprise much of what's seen in the mod team. And then of course there's that bastard Steve Youngblood.
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Himu

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5929 on: December 13, 2016, 01:30:30 PM »
That set of gaf rules you listed isn't much different than SA.

Except at SA you have to put a modicum of effort into your posts. No bad grammar, no one word posts, no memes;etc. It's far more interventionist than gaf.

I'm just used to it TBH. Gaf has to moderate hundreds of thousands of users a minute. If you want a more laid back experience just stick to smaller boards.

What mods edit or delete posts that make them look bad?

It's a tremendous effort, and we can't thank them enough. I love neogaf moderation team, they're great people

Please, the hyperbole. It's a forum with account approvals. Mine took 9 months to approve. Moderators shouldn't EVEN be looking. There should be a report button, and whoever abuses it gets the hammer. If the report is valid, person gets a warning / ban, but always stating the reason. The reason as to how they broke the ToS, not the imaginary rules set by the mod.

Yes it's a forum where accounts are accepted.

With thousands of accounts posting at once - and since I'm not posting on gaf I'll add this - you dumbass.

I think there's a disconnect here. You probably didn't post on gaming age forums like I did. Gaf at one point was small. About medium size I guess but small enough where it felt tight knit.

Neogaf however is massive. Back in the day, a thread wouldn't leave the first page for a while. Now sometimes I'll look for a thread I wanted to read after reading another thread and it's now on page 2 or even 3. Imagine moderating at this pace. That's a large amount to moderate and administrate.

I have a feeling you've never been a moderator on a forum. It sucks.
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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5930 on: December 13, 2016, 01:30:51 PM »
adam posted roughly 4000 times in October 2016

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5931 on: December 13, 2016, 01:31:42 PM »
I have a feeling you've never been a moderator on a forum.
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Boredfrom

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5932 on: December 13, 2016, 01:31:52 PM »
So it's not the mod team you have trouble with but a specific mod?

Nah, the mod team has issues as a whole. The fact that Besada is still there is just another clear symptom.   

Broseidon

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5933 on: December 13, 2016, 01:34:18 PM »
think neogaf dot com represents the videogames industry, brehs
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Himu

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5934 on: December 13, 2016, 01:34:56 PM »
Neogaf was for a long time, and still is to a certain extent the online face of our industry and its fans

Receipts plz
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Himu

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5935 on: December 13, 2016, 01:39:50 PM »
So it's not the mod team you have trouble with but a specific mod?

Nah, the mod team has issues as a whole. The fact that Besada is still there is just another clear symptom.

Neogaf staff is much better than it was ten years ago. Again, I was banned for thinking Big was a creepy movie. If you think gaf is bad now....? You used to be banned by...who was that guy? The guy who made monthly game release threads. You'd be banned by him for bumping a week old thread in the gaf of 2005 because "it's better to make new threads". I've been a thread maker ever since.

TBH your complaints just seem small to me. I've seen gaf grow over the past ten+ years and if you think this is bad then LOL.

Today's gaf staff is pretty good. Certainly has some issues but overall? Much better than it used to be.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5936 on: December 13, 2016, 01:40:10 PM »
Good lord, Benji. That's a heck of a Wall of Shame.

I'm currently banned so I can't give you numbers on esteemed member "bluekaveli" and his post count but I assure you, they're similar.

EDIT: with Stufte's av, that marks two Beautiful Big Dave Bautista avs here. I am happy.
I checked and good lord i forgot how much he posted. Spoilered to save space.
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Optimus

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5937 on: December 13, 2016, 01:41:47 PM »
That set of gaf rules you listed isn't much different than SA.

Except at SA you have to put a modicum of effort into your posts. No bad grammar, no one word posts, no memes;etc. It's far more interventionist than gaf.

I'm just used to it TBH. Gaf has to moderate hundreds of thousands of users a minute. If you want a more laid back experience just stick to smaller boards.

What mods edit or delete posts that make them look bad?

It's a tremendous effort, and we can't thanks them enough. I love neogaf moderation team, they're great people

Please, the hyperbole. It's a forum with account approvals. Mine took 9 months to approve. Moderators shouldn't EVEN be looking. There should be a report button, and whoever abuses it gets the hammer. If the report is valid, person gets a warning / ban, but always stating the reason. The reason as to how they broke the ToS, not the imaginary rules set by the mod.


The fact that they haven't implemented such a simple, yet effective system shows that they have no intention of ever delivering fair moderation. The idea about getting rid of backseat moderators is great too btw, maybe the reports should be anonymous to the moderators but the moderators can flag those wrongly reporting in the system for review from administrators so that members can't get away with it because the mod is their online buddy.

Escapist, like many other forums, have a similar report system to the one you described and it feels like it's moderated by an AI since they only ban you for specific offenses only, no feelings or moderator's ideology is ever involved, which is a great thing. Even when the forums were relatively big no one had particular complaints about the moderation there.

FunSlower

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5938 on: December 13, 2016, 01:43:24 PM »
TY Nachobro for not pulling any months where I cracked the top 4. For all the posts by BewareTheBatsie, I have no idea who that is.

I did see my av I had last still showing up so I'm pretty happy about that. lmao

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #5939 on: December 13, 2016, 01:43:29 PM »
Neogaf was for a long time, and still is to a certain extent the online face of our industry and its fans

Receipts plz

GAF used to be the place where you could go to get an insight about what fans thought about your games and actually interact with them outside of the community manager led publisher forums. People in the industry used to point at GAF as a place to pay attention to, where fans could often get early info about their favorite titles. It's the biggest video game message board on the internet, and to that extent it has a large influence, an influence it doesn't deserve any more.