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etiolate

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« Reply #5580 on: December 07, 2016, 06:42:41 PM »
Hitchens tore down Mother Teresa. He attacked the fundamentalism of a literal saint in a mostly Christian country.

But your worried about criticisms of the faith, doctrine and political idealogy prevalent in backward countries that you yourself want to escape from.

Maybe check your pants upon the issue of tight undies.

Dude, I'm not even mad. I am an atheist and I do have a bias against Islam that I've admitted to in the past. So what if he attacked Mother Teresa? I'm in the fuck Mother Teresa camp too but I'm not going to be painting all christians under a wide brush either. We're not talking about attacking religious figures, we're talking about grouping all people in one religion as a certain way. Which to me is how Hitchens always came off.

Why you caping for him so hard, anyway?

I don't cape for Hitchens. I worry about the form of this dishonesty. I challenge this assertion that he is a racist and question where it comes from. Support the accusation. To say people like Harris, Hitchens and Maher are racists when they apply the same scrutiny to Islam that they have applied to all other religious factions is not only a lie and slander, but it reveals a lack of self-awareness.



Do not confuse that with David Duke.


Himu

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« Reply #5581 on: December 07, 2016, 06:53:50 PM »
Let's put it this way.

Not all people are who are anti-Muslim are racists.

But there's a certain kind of anti-Islam that comes across as racist.

I, and apparently Wrath, think Hitchens and his ilk the latter.
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« Reply #5582 on: December 07, 2016, 06:57:05 PM »
Remember also, Hitch was British. And high enough off in the still odd British caste culture that he went to Oxford despite poor grades.

Even more fun is his younger brother who also started out as a Trotskyite who went way afield starting in the 1980s.

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« Reply #5583 on: December 07, 2016, 06:59:23 PM »
everyone loved putting them together:


Probably more relevant:

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« Reply #5584 on: December 07, 2016, 07:02:14 PM »
it's also funny how Christopher got welcomed so warmly by the Republican circles in the U.S. during the Bush years, while his super christian, climate change disbelieving, conservative policy supporting brother never did because he opposed the Iraq War and War on Terror in general unlike his brother :lol

Himu

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« Reply #5585 on: December 07, 2016, 07:10:50 PM »
There's a chance, with the current political climate, that Hitchens would vote Trump. Just saying.
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benjipwns

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« Reply #5586 on: December 07, 2016, 07:19:59 PM »
Disclosure: I got Facebook PMs from Chris' daughter, Sophia years ago, maybe after he got his first diagnosis, because me and a friend had years earlier made a stupid group page that consisted solely of Hitchens giving Maher's audience the finger and telling them "fuck you." She mentioned something about how it was probably the only fan page on facebook he'd like since all the rest were full of your standard athiest diatribes/arguments and such. I took us out of the group so it'd default to her choosing since we hadn't changed it since first putting it up. She had been using it to answer people's questions about him for a period. The other creator (aka my friend) said he saw it was being active but had ignored it assuming it was still like the second most popular Hitchens group (which it was pre-Facebook going outside universities) until he checked why and told me. And then I saw I'd gotten PMs from her. :lol

It doesn't seem to exist anymore from what I can tell. Or it's been turned into one of these other standard fan groups. Or Facebook purged it.

Okay, so it's not a real disclosure but an excuse to humblebrag about my one near proxy interaction with Hitch.

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« Reply #5587 on: December 07, 2016, 07:23:24 PM »
There are moderate Muslims but when most members of a religion believe it's ok to murder someone who leaves the faith, or a noteworthy portion believe gay people should be put to death, or most believe in various draconian oppression tactics aimed at women, etc etc...something is wrong. I'm sure it's a beautiful religion at its core, but unfortunately a whole lot of people believe in a very ugly form of it.

And let's not forget the genesis of a lot of this shit was British and US colonialism destabilizing regions of the world and helping to turn people towards dangerous religious offshoots. And what is the genesis of British/US colonialism? Manifest Destiny and other Christian views that the white man is endowed by God to be the master of earth, and murdering black/brown/etc people by the thousands is no sin.

In short, Abrahamic religion
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etiolate

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« Reply #5588 on: December 07, 2016, 07:31:56 PM »
Wraith none of what you posted supports accusations or racism nor does it even support the claim they believe there's no moderate Muslim. You realize Sam Harris works with Majiid Nawaz, a moderate Muslim who he supports in his effort to reform the religion?

He isn't excusing any bad behavior from any other religion. He states that Islam is different because of its intent to statehood, an idea other jeudochristian religions are largely past. Augustine was the fucking fifth century. Islam was a war religion in time of its own prophet.

There is a reason Westboro Baptist Church is seen widely by its own country and surrounding culture as nut jobs while backwards doctrine is law in Islamic state countries because there is a call for there to be an Islamic state.

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« Reply #5589 on: December 07, 2016, 07:33:06 PM »
they have to be able to prove it by having five witnesses say they say the two having gay sex
sounds like a fun party  :-*

etiolate

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« Reply #5590 on: December 07, 2016, 07:35:36 PM »
Christianity was pretty much a peace cult until the Roman empire saw it needed to switch flags or lose the productivity of its citizenship.

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« Reply #5591 on: December 07, 2016, 07:37:11 PM »
Fear of a reborn worldwide Caliphate or Sharia Law becoming dominant law in Western nations isn't exactly a fear of converted cacs hopping on the radical Islam train.

VomKriege

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« Reply #5592 on: December 07, 2016, 07:47:16 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226200016&postcount=13120

Gingrich is a gigantic bellend but :comeon
There's really nothing controversial here.
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benjipwns

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« Reply #5593 on: December 07, 2016, 07:58:34 PM »
That's one of the things that often gets me about the experts there. They don't know how much they don't know.

The funny thing is that Newt has long been well regarded as a military historian for an amateur*. Especially on the Civil War. (Even though his books are alternate history fiction, he and his co-author (an actual history professor) researched the historical events first.) Even his conclusions, like the one in those tweets, can be fitting into his political arguments/worldview, it's not like he's wrong on the details. Japan did pull off a nearly perfectly brilliant attack. (Especially considering their status as a military power under 50 years prior.)

Also, Newt reviews books on Amazon, and he's written favorable ones about understanding bin Laden, although not on 9/11 itself, so...

It also appears that he wrote a series on the Pacific War with the first book focused on Pearl Harbor.

*He's actually not entirely, he has a PhD in history, but after being denied tenure ran for Congress and left academia.

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« Reply #5594 on: December 07, 2016, 08:02:06 PM »
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How come we're not hearing much talk about Warren in 2020?

Seems like the most promising candidate honestly.
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« Reply #5595 on: December 07, 2016, 08:07:02 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1323108

Ah, I didn't see there was a whole thread of this... "What is this I don't even. Wow. I refuse to believe it's real."
WTF at people comparing Pearl Harbour (and the several assorted attacks) to 9/11. Not the same scale at all and very different events.
Are all those outraged gaffers suggesting we should speak of the traitorous japs instead of recognizing their successes in a 75 years old military attack ?

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What argument is there that the surprise attacks were "brilliant"?

Well... you know. Having a massive task force crossing half the Pacific and achieving surprise while simultaneous amphibious assaults were performed on the same day in Asia ?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226206210&postcount=62
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benjipwns

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« Reply #5596 on: December 07, 2016, 08:24:45 PM »
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Seriously? Seriously? Ever heard of propriety you manchild
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I doubt Japanese leaders are praising our technological power on the atomic bomb anniversary.
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Essentially for the first Dec. 7th in 75 years an American politician is publicly sympathizing, even in a small way, with an Axis power.

Kind of a big deal.

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What argument is there that the surprise attacks were "brilliant"? Setting aside moral outrage, the U.S. still had a badass Navy after Pearl Harbor. If their objective was to cripple the U.S. fleet, they failed. And they lost.
lol, it was fucking luck that it didn't work, because it forced the U.S. to actually invent the new modern form of Naval Warfare (and the JAPS didn't know we had already planned on giving up the Philippines early in any war) and all the damaged battleships were barely even used in the war once repaired because we had found a better method

the US took nearly 4000 casualties, lost nearly the entire fleet, while the JAPS lost 65 people total in a direct assault on the world's largest naval fleet, they didn't even lose a hundred planes in the attack! if the aircraft carriers hadn't been moved it would have been more than a year to even catch back up to Japan's weaker navy, especially since we had to support the War on the other side of the world too

the lesson Japan probably took away in the immediate aftermath and to Midway was that it shouldn't have held back and pressed the advantage which they never did to attack all the facilities along with the ships

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« Reply #5597 on: December 07, 2016, 08:32:28 PM »
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The Japanese declaration of war was delivered _after_ the attack due to Japan's professional incompetence
come on man, everybody already knew it was coming which is why they didn't want to take it over at that point and we were deliberate dicks to them about it to make the messengers feel even worse :lol, the US wasn't prepared for the attack part even if it had been delivered on time an hour or whatever it was supposed to be before the attack

the scope and scale hadn't been part of the American planning, much smaller was assumed, maybe just the Philippines or so

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« Reply #5598 on: December 07, 2016, 08:40:50 PM »
Christopher Hitchens still dead :rejoice

benjipwns

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« Reply #5599 on: December 07, 2016, 08:43:27 PM »
He's in heaven miserable.

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« Reply #5600 on: December 07, 2016, 09:16:39 PM »
He's in heaven miserable.

Seriously? Seriously? Ever heard of propriety you manchild
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« Reply #5601 on: December 07, 2016, 10:10:50 PM »
you ever go raw in a fat chick mister nobody?

I don't kiss and tell


But if I did ....I've had my fair share

nudemacusers

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« Reply #5602 on: December 07, 2016, 10:32:56 PM »
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« Reply #5603 on: December 07, 2016, 10:47:53 PM »
how to do nepotism?
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Syph

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« Reply #5604 on: December 07, 2016, 11:20:40 PM »
cant tell if most are praising or hating hitchens here, but in the former case,
hitchens was a fan of steyn
bang bang
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« Reply #5605 on: December 07, 2016, 11:21:54 PM »
cant tell if most are praising or hating hitchens here, but in the former case,
hitchens was a fan of steyn
bang bang

Can it be both?

Momo

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« Reply #5606 on: December 07, 2016, 11:27:41 PM »
90% of the muslims I know are christian youths of 30 - 40 years ago, they drink, they party, they fuck but put on the fake good child act when their parents religious leaders/friends are around to not shame their folks. Most cant give a fuck but for their folks social standing.

There are some completely fucked up madrassahs around here though,I feel it's people from that sphere that drives that shame based fake conformity in the local muslim community. 
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VomKriege

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« Reply #5607 on: December 08, 2016, 04:18:06 AM »
« Last Edit: December 08, 2016, 04:39:47 AM by VomKriege »
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benjipwns

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« Reply #5608 on: December 08, 2016, 05:18:38 AM »
Not a good look, not a good luck at all.

VomKriege

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« Reply #5609 on: December 08, 2016, 06:04:59 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226226358&postcount=92

the way some people fetishize the idea of "debate" is dangerous
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Momo

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« Reply #5610 on: December 08, 2016, 06:56:34 AM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=226218951

A cupcake ? Trevor Noah is a race traitor !

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=226224152

A tv show geared to ratings ? You don't say.
Oh look, a race thread where people arent banned instantly for disagreeing with others, I wonder what's changed recently  :dunno

VomKriege

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« Reply #5611 on: December 08, 2016, 08:17:40 AM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=226229441

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I watched the Noah segment with Lahren and this boy couldnt even look at her throughout most of it. As shook as a middle aged black man in 1930s Mississippi. I hope 2017 is the year he loses his show

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« Reply #5612 on: December 08, 2016, 08:22:39 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1323235

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I've always felt Trico bears an uncanny resemblance to my dog

His dog


Trico


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Momo

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« Reply #5613 on: December 08, 2016, 08:27:55 AM »
Trevor Noah grew up in apartheid brehs, he's not going to be shook by some 22 year old blond chick saying stuff. As much as I dislike Trevor's comedy, having shared this experience with him I guarantee you he's hard as fuck when it comes to racism.

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« Reply #5614 on: December 08, 2016, 08:46:53 AM »
Trevor Noah grew up in apartheid brehs, he's not going to be shook by some 22 year old blond chick saying stuff. As much as I dislike Trevor's comedy, having shared this experience with him I guarantee you he's hard as fuck when it comes to racism.

But has he ever posted angrily, inferring a successful black man is a soft-shoeing coward for not falling in line with NeoGaf.com political groupthink? HAS HE? I don't fucking think so. I bet the guy that posted that thinks he's real progressive, too, spouting actual white supremacist rhetoric like it's common talk.

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« Reply #5615 on: December 08, 2016, 08:48:11 AM »
Trevor Noah grew up in apartheid brehs, he's not going to be shook by some 22 year old blond chick saying stuff. As much as I dislike Trevor's comedy, having shared this experience with him I guarantee you he's hard as fuck when it comes to racism.

People are saying good things about his book too.

It's mostly a memoir/love-letter to his mother, from what I've been hearing. His time during apartheid being the background for most of it.

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« Reply #5616 on: December 08, 2016, 08:58:48 AM »
Jimmy Fallon promoted a Nintendo product, thusly no longer being a stealth Nazi alt-righter:

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« Reply #5617 on: December 08, 2016, 09:01:48 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1323235

Quote from: B-B-Bomba!;226228433
I've always felt Trico bears an uncanny resemblance to my dog

His dog
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Trico
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"Lemme see if I can find any pics of his butthole."

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« Reply #5618 on: December 08, 2016, 09:05:53 AM »
Language Log recently highlighted an interview about Noah's book in which he explains his use of multiple languages to shape his identity. The relevant excerpt:
https://soundcloud.com/heidi-harley/trevornoahinterview2016-11freshair

Pretty neat if you've got 10min to spare.

Himu

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« Reply #5619 on: December 08, 2016, 09:42:12 AM »
Trevor Noah grew up in apartheid brehs, he's not going to be shook by some 22 year old blond chick saying stuff. As much as I dislike Trevor's comedy, having shared this experience with him I guarantee you he's hard as fuck when it comes to racism.

Trevor just seems dismissive of the American brand of racism is all. Just doesn't know how to articulate it in comedy form or anything. I appreciate the struggles he's gone through but the way he handles the topic of racism always feels lacks tenuity. Although I did like his interview with that crazy Nazi chick. I don't doubt he's experienced hard shit but the guy just feels so foreign to me regarding his commentary on race.
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Himu

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« Reply #5620 on: December 08, 2016, 09:58:09 AM »
I don't doubt he's experienced hard shit but the guy just feels so foreign to me regarding his commentary on race.

Interesting choice of words. :doge

As much as I like them I've got a slight problem with this recent thing where we place immigrants as the talking head of American political topics. It just feels wrong to me in a way. Especially with Oliver's brand of "HEY AMERICAN'S here's something you ignorant fops didn't know about *this* week." A lot of times it's off putting.
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« Reply #5621 on: December 08, 2016, 10:02:10 AM »
I don't doubt he's experienced hard shit but the guy just feels so foreign to me regarding his commentary on race.

Interesting choice of words. :doge

As much as I like them I've got a slight problem with this recent thing where we place immigrants as the talking head of American political topics. It just feels wrong to me in a way. Especially with Oliver's brand of "HEY AMERICAN'S here's something you ignorant fops didn't know about *this* week." A lot of times it's off putting.
John Oliver treats the US like it's one big zoo and has no respect or reverence for it on really any level. If I were a slightly bigger dipshit, I would have voted Trump just to ruin the day of these people.

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« Reply #5622 on: December 08, 2016, 10:04:21 AM »
Yeah and Noah's comments on race topics tends to make me go "well, he's reminding he hasn't live in America very long!"
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« Reply #5623 on: December 08, 2016, 10:05:18 AM »
John Oliver treats the US like it's one big zoo and has no respect or reverence for it on really on level.
Are you sure you're not just thinking that because he's British? Besides, how do you know what he's like outside of the show?

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« Reply #5624 on: December 08, 2016, 10:21:48 AM »
John Oliver treats the US like it's one big zoo and has no respect or reverence for it on really on level.
Are you sure you're not just thinking that because he's British? Besides, how do you know what he's like outside of the show?
Is he playing a character on screen?

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« Reply #5625 on: December 08, 2016, 10:39:30 AM »
is it worse when an immigrant points out how stupid you are?

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« Reply #5626 on: December 08, 2016, 10:46:18 AM »
John Oliver treats the US like it's one big zoo and has no respect or reverence for it on really on level.
Are you sure you're not just thinking that because he's British? Besides, how do you know what he's like outside of the show?
Is he playing a character on screen?
It's a comedy show with a very narrow scope, you tell me. :doge

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« Reply #5627 on: December 08, 2016, 10:51:57 AM »
Trevor Noah grew up in apartheid brehs, he's not going to be shook by some 22 year old blond chick saying stuff. As much as I dislike Trevor's comedy, having shared this experience with him I guarantee you he's hard as fuck when it comes to racism.

Trevor just seems dismissive of the American brand of racism is all. Just doesn't know how to articulate it in comedy form or anything. I appreciate the struggles he's gone through but the way he handles the topic of racism always feels lacks tenuity. Although I did like his interview with that crazy Nazi chick. I don't doubt he's experienced hard shit but the guy just feels so foreign to me regarding his commentary on race.
Our brand of racism is very much in your face and direct, it's moving towards more covert shit, but yes your brand of racism is very much it's own thing.

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« Reply #5628 on: December 08, 2016, 10:53:24 AM »
Good luck with the covert stuff. It's a harder thing to argue against because people can deny it exists. Covert while being in your face is the American brand.
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« Reply #5629 on: December 08, 2016, 11:04:43 AM »
John Oliver treats the US like it's one big zoo and has no respect or reverence for it on really on level.
Are you sure you're not just thinking that because he's British? Besides, how do you know what he's like outside of the show?
Is he playing a character on screen?
It's a comedy show with a very narrow scope, you tell me. :doge
Ah, so he's pretending. Hell of an actor!

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« Reply #5630 on: December 08, 2016, 11:16:51 AM »
I think you misunderstand his intent with the paper thing. The episode focused on fake news and he suggested being more invested post-election in educating ones self through various sources, including WaPo and NYT. It's not exactly a bad sentiment to have especially due to a sizable percent of the population getting their news exclusively from Facebook. Basically, it was more of an appeal to make people more actively engaged in their news media consumption than pre-election.
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« Reply #5631 on: December 08, 2016, 11:19:09 AM »
I came here for neogaf news
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« Reply #5632 on: December 08, 2016, 11:38:48 AM »
His call-to-arms for people to mass subscribe to "struggling" national papers like WaPo and NYT was also enough for me to completely write him off.

He's kinda right on that, though. Look at how "Fake News" is spreading. A bunch of the old-Journalism papers have to cram a bunch of ads and things into their "free" mode (that people block) to pay the reporters and to give access to people to read their content. Something has to be done on supporting that industry.

I mean let me put it this way:

https://twitter.com/edyong209/status/802574776338259968

https://twitter.com/edyong209/status/802576716224925696

Tell me how many "Mainstream Media" places did things about the Standing Rock protest. :doge
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« Reply #5633 on: December 08, 2016, 11:50:41 AM »
Basically, in an era where news can be found for free, people aren't paying for legitimate news sources. By subbing to traditional outlets, no matter their problems, you can help provide an environment where legitimacy is encouraged. We have become too spoiled by the internet and the amount of news we can access for free, and people are pissed they can't read WaPo or NYT without subbing or because their ad blocker doesn't work. But somehow people wonder why Fake News took off. Because  we allowed it to. Oliver isn't asking people to help "strugling" traditional outlets. He's basically asking us to fight fake news by supporting as many legitimate traditional pay outlets as possible to fight fake news and doing our parts to become informed citizens. WaPo and NYT is just the start. Also look into WSJ, Financial Times;etc.

Good looking out on the Teen Vogue tweets. 5 dollar subscription? Wow.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no 4KDennis allowed]
« Reply #5634 on: December 08, 2016, 12:00:09 PM »
Sadly, most places like NYT and WaPo charge more than $5 a year. Teen Vogue is a outlier (but if you've seen their paper magazines, they're tiny but packed with pages--most of them ads granted--for the price.

Speaking of Tweets and it being semi-related to GAF, I figured this'll be interesting for some of you:

https://twitter.com/alexislloyd/status/806714189087735808

Drilling that down: http://boingboing.net/2016/12/07/for-two-years-criminals-stole.html

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no 4KDennis allowed]
« Reply #5635 on: December 08, 2016, 12:06:23 PM »
News should be tax funded
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no 4KDennis allowed]
« Reply #5636 on: December 08, 2016, 12:09:09 PM »
ὕβρις

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no 4KDennis allowed]
« Reply #5637 on: December 08, 2016, 12:12:08 PM »

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no 4KDennis allowed]
« Reply #5638 on: December 08, 2016, 12:17:09 PM »
Ah, so he's pretending. Hell of an actor!
The humour of the show is in the absurd reality of what he's presenting and the way the principal enablers (often politicians) defend them. "This thing is blatantly and obviously fucked once you scrutinize it, here's a clip of a company representative or politician more or less admit to it." That's the concept of the show. In-between, John Oliver emotes exaggeratedly and tells some skip-worthy jokes. Eh, so what? Maybe you perceive that as pandering and being talked down to? I wouldn't necessarily disagree, that stuff makes me cringe, too.

Just look at this for a minute and tell me it isn't funny:
https://youtu.be/PDylgzybWAw?t=279

The set-up and then the diagram from a training manual showing a literal cycle of debt? I mean - come on. That is too good. You don't have to be a a sardonic foreigner to be able to laugh at that.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread [no 4KDennis allowed]
« Reply #5639 on: December 08, 2016, 12:23:02 PM »
John Oliver treats the US like it's one big zoo and has no respect or reverence for it on really any level.
So exactly how it deserves to be treated, then. 

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