Nintendo Switch Thread

[Rufus]

JFC why the fuck would you ever change cylinder to capsule collision? They had to have known.

Maybe? They have commented on the differences to the original here:
https://blog.activision.com/t5/Crash-Bandicoot/Go-Ahead-and-Jump/ba-p/10319197

They wanted to "unify the experience across all three games" using the 3rd as a base, and acknowledge that the first one now "requires more precision", but believe the dynamic difficulty changes they've made make up for it. They recommend people new to the series start with the 2nd or 3rd game.

[Great Rumbler]

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Beat Crash Bandicoot.  Fuck this game.

I'm about a quarter of the way through Crash Bandicoot 2 and it's almost night and day difference.  A much better game.

Also any word on how good the latest Shining game is?

[Great Rumbler]

Also any word on how good the latest Shining game is?

Most sites seem to agree that it's animu out of 10.

[bork]

Also any word on how good the latest Shining game is?

There's a demo available.  Seems like most people are waiting for Octopath Traveler on Friday...

[bork]

Bomb Chicken is up and is pretty good.  It's a 2D platformer where you can lay an unlimited number of bombs and have to use them as both weapons and ways to get around the stages, since you can't jump.  Pretty slick little game!

[Fifstar]

Was looking forward to this. Price is a bit steep. How long is it?

[bork]

Was looking forward to this. Price is a bit steep. How long is it?

Apparently 29 levels long.  Not sure how much time to complete is needed.

Edit: Eurogamer says:

While somewhat brief for the price ($15 or £12) and lacking secondary features like multiplayer, Bomb Chicken makes a terrific on-the-go game. Each of the 29 stages boils down into five or six individual sections that take seconds to beat once you've worked out the solution. They're book-ended by elevators that whisk you away to a sort of fast food shrine, where a menacing chicken idol booms about conquering the world via the addictive properties of hot blue sauce. Here you'll trade in the gems you've collected to increase the number of continues available per level.

The game's use of lives can be frustrating towards the finish, but is quite gentle by throwback platformer standards. It retains progress such as unlocked doors or gems collected once you've passed through the area in question, which eases the (frequent) pain of running out of continues and starting a level from scratch. You can also dip back into chapters from the pause screen to scoop up any gems you've missed, many tucked away in extra-hazardous treasure rooms screened by crumbling walls.

[Fifstar]

Yeah, sounds like it's a bit pricey. 10 bucks would be an Insta Buy. On the other hand after Celeste and hollow Knight I am worn out on tough platformers, this looks a lot more relaxing. Might get it but I will get Pool Panic First.

[Fifstar]

It reminds me of escape goat which I loved back then.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Got in Captain Toad, Octopath Traveler, and Shining Resonance (the special uguu edition) last night.

Got to stop my habit of buying any halfway decent Switch game.  My backlog is now at over 30 games.

[Great Rumbler]

Do you have Ys VIII on anything yet? Might as well grab the Switch version of that if you don't.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Do you have Ys VIII on anything yet? Might as well grab the Switch version of that if you don't.

I do.  It's sitting in the backlog.

[Human Snorenado]

Just discovered that the 8bitdo controller I bought last Christmas for my Raspberry pi can pair up with my Switch after the latest firmware update, bless up, no more shitty joycons for meeeee

[kingv]

It’s kind of weird to me how in their last two consoles Nintendo has become the most open company peripheral wise. You can basically pair any Bluetooth controller.

[Tasty]

It’s kind of weird to me how in their last two consoles Nintendo has become the most open company peripheral wise. You can basically pair any Bluetooth controller.

-Bluetooth
-USB Type-C
-SD/MicroSD
-ARM

Nintendo making all the right moves.

[Corporal]

-Bluetooth but no Bluetooth Audio support
-USB Type-C but terribly broken PD protocol implementation
-MicroSD as usual
-ARM as usual

I'd say, they did their level best to add their own spin to the NVidia reference design... 

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Bonus:

-shitty WLAN reception/throughput/latency

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[Maiden Voyage]

Holy shit... I can pair my Bluetooth Xbone controller to the Switch? Niiiice. That solves the shit d-pad issue for me.

[bork]

Holy shit... I can pair my Bluetooth Xbone controller to the Switch? Niiiice. That solves the shit d-pad issue for me.

It does? 

Anyway, you need an adapter to use PS4 and Xbone controllers on Switch.  8BitDo controllers are the only ones that just pair right up, IIRC.

[Tasty]

-Bluetooth but no Bluetooth Audio support
-USB Type-C but terribly broken PD protocol implementation
-MicroSD as usual
-ARM as usual

I'd say, they did their level best to add their own spin to the NVidia reference design... 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Bonus:

-shitty WLAN reception/throughput/latency

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The Switch is the first mainstream video game console to use ARM tho

"MicroSD as usual"

*glances as Vita*

[bork]

The Switch is the first mainstream video game console to use ARM tho

Didn't the 3DO (lol), GBA, DS, and 3DS use ARM as well?

[kingv]

I remember reading that 3DO didn’t have a hardware divide. I’m assuming it just turned it all into multiplication at compilation or something...

But I don’t know enough about hardware to know if that is actually unusual or if the person writing the article is just as dumb as me about it.

[Joe Molotov]

No no, it's the first mainstream video game console to have ARMS.

[bork]

No no, it's the first mainstream video game console to have ARMS.

[nachobro]

No no, it's the first mainstream video game console to have ARMS.

 

[bork]

No no, it's the first mainstream video game console to have ARMS.

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[nachobro]

 

[Joe Molotov]

Most people didn't know how to access the 1080p mode in Bionic Commando for the NES, even though it was advertised on the box.

[Tasty]

The Switch is the first mainstream video game console to use ARM tho

Didn't the 3DO (lol), GBA, DS, and 3DS use ARM as well?

Should have specified home console. Though it does follow from the GBA-ARM lineage on the handheld side, you are right.

3DO is excluded by my use of the word "mainstream," lol.

[kingv]

Capcom has always been good about supporting new technologies. Capcom 5 was evidence of this.

[Tasty]

I remember reading that 3DO didn’t have a hardware divide. I’m assuming it just turned it all into multiplication at compilation or something...

But I don’t know enough about hardware to know if that is actually unusual or if the person writing the article is just as dumb as me about it.

You mean a divide between CPU and GPU? That would be pretty weird. Would that be like a SoC?

[kingv]

No, I mean like it couldn’t natively do division (like 2 divided by 2) in hardware.

I don’t even remember where I read that.

My friend had a 3DO and I remember it being really impressive at the time, and has the first in a long line of terrible Naughty Dog games.

[Tasty]

That's pretty fucked up if true.

Like I can maybe understand not supporting modulus division or something, but just... division in general? How would you even get something to run? Unless each game implemented their own divide() method or something... but that just sounds stupid.

[Corporal]

Aaaaacshually, specifically divide-and-multiply-by-2 (and powers thereof) is trivial in CPU design and included in I dare say all architectures. It's inherent in the system, so to say. At least for integers, floating point numbers are a bit more complicated - and probably not supported by the old-ass CPUs of back then anyway because floating point maths were terrible from a performance and silicone die area perspective. We were still banging rocks together, so to speak.

Anyway, division by arbitrary numbers is another matter entirely and I wouldn't be shocked to find out that they relegated that function to a software only solution.

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How to divide a binary integer by two: shift all bits one place to the right and fill the leftmost one with a zero. Two places for 2^2. Divide by eight by shifting it three places.

32d = 0010 0000b
16d = 0001 0000b
 8d = 0000 1000b
and so on...

As you can see above, multiplication works by shifting left and once again filling the void with a zero. It actually works with numbers of arbitrary length. Also, obviously it's not gonna give you fractions, although you can work around that if you are determined:

7d = 0000 0111b >> 0000 0011b = 3d (plus one bit you could possibly save manually or automatically depending on architecture)

Actually, you can futz around with that even more and just define your own floating point model, as long as you keep track of which part of the bitfield is the fraction, so to speak.

7.0d = 0000 111.0b >> 0000 011.1b = 3.5d as a simple example. Obviously, only using one bit to save the fraction restricts you terribly, since you can only save the two values of x.0 or x.5 that way. Two bits already offer a granularity of x.0, x.25, x.5 and x.75, three give you access to all eighths, etc.

It's good enough for 3D applications - the DS didn't have a dedicated floating point unit IIRC, so that's how devs worked around that. Might be misremembering things though - still, the DS had a terribly old CPU. Really freaky and pretty interesting GPU though.

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[Sho Nuff]

There's an insane Youtube video where Burger Becky, who coded Doom 3DO, goes over how she got it working without a ton of stuff that Carmack took for granted on x86. It's amazing.

[bork]

There's an insane Youtube video where Burger Becky, who coded Doom 3DO, goes over how she got it working without a ton of stuff that Carmack took for granted on x86. It's amazing.

I think I saw this- Is that where it's mentioned how the publisher was claiming a perfect port would be out by the end of that year, which was not possible, and that she got a lot of the code/assets from the Jaguar port...or am I thinking of the Jaguar port?   

[agrajag]

Yeah those Youtube videos that delve deep into the architecture of retro consoles are fascinating, like how the Saturn hardware calculated quads instead of triangle, which made multi platform titles a pain in the ass.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Its because sega didnt believe in 3D at home despite being all in 3D in the arcades

Seeeegaaaaa

Meanwhile I already put 45 hours into Fortnite on Switch

[agrajag]

I just can't be bothered to give a rats ass about Fortnite. The art style makes it look like n64 vomit to me.

[Human Snorenado]

I just can't be bothered to give a rats ass about Fortnite. The art style makes it look like n64 vomit to me.

Then there's the actual gameplay, which is sort of like warmed over shit

[Corporal]

Which reminds me, I should probably play some more Paladins before I completely forget the controls and map layouts...

naaaah.

Octopussy be too tempting.
Why get owned miserably when I can instead cut my eyes on delicious pixels in some weird 2.5D RPG thingamabop. Less lag and shitty WiFi issues as well.



Also, whosoever reminded me that the new Splatoon Amiibos are out, is a dick.
 
*25 bucks later*
What the fuck am I going to do with them, anyway.

Pearl is so fucking scary.

I hate her design.

*puts figurines on shelf with the rest*

Grumble grumble. Fucking Nintendo. 

[Human Snorenado]

Liked for the Octopath love, not your filty, degenerate amiibo habit. Seek help, bruh.

[Huff]

I just can't be bothered to give a rats ass about Fortnite. The art style makes it look like n64 vomit to me.

Sorry your a fucking old loser

Bitch

[Huff]

Also I’m praying for our mentally handicapped friend corporal

[agrajag]

 

[Cerveza mas fina]

You guys shouldnt be so down on Fortnite, I thought it was a dumb PUBG rip off but its actually great fun.

[bork]

You guys shouldnt be so down on Fortnite, I thought it was a dumb PUBG rip off but its actually great fun.

I play this here and there and it seems like a much more polished and complete game compared to PUBG, but I would enjoy these kinds of games more if they had a play mode with respawns and people dropping in closer to one another.

[kingv]

I have played a little fortnight. I don’t hate it but not do I love it. I really don’t like the building mechanics but the idea of 100 people in a big map is kind of cool.

I’m curious how this will play out in the new call of duty game. I don’t usually like COD much, but battle royale with cod mechanics sounds interesting to me.

On a side note, where are our asymmetric multiplayer games? I remember really liking that splinter cell multiplayer back in the day.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Asymetric will never be mainstream I think, Evolved tried..

Not sure how battle royale will translate to cod, isnt it basically death match but with no respawns?

[Huff]

You guys shouldnt be so down on Fortnite, I thought it was a dumb PUBG rip off but its actually great fun.

I play this here and there and it seems like a much more polished and complete game compared to PUBG, but I would enjoy these kinds of games more if they had a play mode with respawns and people dropping in closer to one another.

  
I would really like strategy games but if there was no strategy and 3rd person shooting instead

[bork]

You guys shouldnt be so down on Fortnite, I thought it was a dumb PUBG rip off but its actually great fun.

I play this here and there and it seems like a much more polished and complete game compared to PUBG, but I would enjoy these kinds of games more if they had a play mode with respawns and people dropping in closer to one another.

  
I would really like strategy games but if there was no strategy and 3rd person shooting instead

 
 Nothing like what I said.

[agrajag]

you know respawns and battle royale are mutually exclusive concepts right?

[bork]

you know respawns and battle royale are mutually exclusive concepts right?

I don't mean for the main free-for-all type mode.  That would never end.    I mean for the team battle type modes.  You could have a set amount of lives or a point system or something.  Basically a team deathmatch/battle royale fusion with the two 50-man teams.

[agrajag]

That sounds cool

[kingv]

Asymetric will never be mainstream I think, Evolved tried..

Not sure how battle royale will translate to cod, isnt it basically death match but with no respawns?

I think so, but I just feel like CODs mechanics are better than fortnites. Might need to beef health a bit for a battle royale though.

Isn’t Borks idea basically... battlefield series with 38 more players? (Which I wouldn’t hate necessarily)

[bork]

Yeah, just a big-ass TDM mode with the Fortnight maps and play mechanics. 

[kingv]

Even the shrinking map could be fun with that many people in a tdm. Obviously it would get very chaotic.... but fun!

[bork]

We need to make this game and become million-billionaires.

[kingv]

We need to make this game and become million-billionaires.

Let’s use unreal engine.

[Tasty]

Nah use Gamebryo™, bro.