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Former Vice President Joe Biden revealed his plan for education on Tuesday, focusing on increased access to education and boosting teacher salaries.

The big picture: The plan aims to raise the salaries of those who teach at low-income schools by increasing funding for Title I. Biden also emphasizes ensuring every child has equal access to education regardless of their race or socio-economic status. He joins other 2020 candidates who have released sweeping education policies — including Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.)

Why it matters: Biden shared his plan from Houston, Texas while meeting with American Federation of Teachers, a national teachers' union, in hopes of securing a coveted endorsement, per Politico.

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  • Triple funding for Title I to increase the salaries of teachers at low-income schools, and close the $23 billion funding gap between white and non-white schools.

    Compensate teachers for the extra work they do outside of the classroom, such as mentoring or coaching.

    The Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program would be revised to better help teachers with their own student loans.

    Double school psychologists, guidance counselors, nurses, social workers and other health-care professionals.

    Pass infrastructure legislation to remodel schools.

    Combat school shootings by banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.
    Improve teacher diversity and increase funding to help schools in low-income communities train students for the future.

    He wants to reinstate an Obama-era policy that ensure schools are continually working to desegregate.

    Fully fund extra cost of special education required by the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act.

    Increase vocational and technical training at schools.

    Offer pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, increase access to early development professionals and expand home visiting from specialists

https://www.axios.com/biden-2020-education-policy-2d585fe2-1e22-43e4-9784-b7785d1e44aa.html

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I still can't (and won't) believe the likely candidates for 2020 are Trump, Biden and Sanders.

Jesus fuck, how did we get to a place where all the candidates are older than McCain was in 2008?
gen x was kind of a dud
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I still can't (and won't) believe the likely candidates for 2020 are Trump, Biden and Sanders.

Jesus fuck, how did we get to a place where all the candidates are older than McCain was in 2008?
gen x was kind of a dud

Obama was okay.


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Bob Mueller: He did that shit, read the fuckin report and leave me the fuck alone

https://twitter.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1133751970320175105

My response though, this is the Trump age, where the country and media have debilitating short-term memory issues, and the GOP has no moral backbone left, you need to nut up and show up to Congress to reiterate these points if you want your work to mean anything, sorry.

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Mueller is a cluck.

Instead of being a Chad and walking into the oval office with a rifle and handcuffs, he wants to sit on the side and let others do the job
« Last Edit: May 29, 2019, 11:41:28 AM by james »
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Nancy ban Donald Trump, do it you coward!

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Mueller is a giant dad.

Instead of being a Chad and walking into the oval office with a rifle and handcuffs, he wants to sit on the side and let others do the job

He clearly is out of touch with how political justice gets traction today, but he couldn't have been more clear in his report what he reiterated today.

The entire second section is essentially a charging document outlining ten cases of obstruction, accompanied by him making it as clear as possible without stepping over perceived boundaries that they think he is guilty of these crimes.

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Nancy: I agree we should impeach. But do the voters? I declare that 2020 is a referendum on impeachment. Vote D to impeach, vote R to not impeach.
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So I looked up the Democrat candidate for the primary election next week.

Surprise surprise, the progressive running against the incumbents doesnt even have a fucking website.
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https://www.apnews.com/ec81a4bb277a46ab99bdd4502f4c7315
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The Democratic National Committee is upping the ante for its second round of presidential primary debates, doubling the polling and grassroots fundraising requirements from its initial summer debates.

The parameters, announced Wednesday, are likely to help cull a crop of 24 candidates and, in the process, intensify scrutiny on Democratic Chairman Tom Perez and his pledge to give all candidates a chance to be heard .

The DNC’s outline for its September debate — the third of at least a dozen promised matchups during the 2020 nominating fight — decrees that candidates can participate only by reaching 2% in four approved polls released between June 28 and Aug. 28 while also collecting contributions from a minimum of 130,000 unique donors before Aug. 28. That donor list must include a minimum of 400 individuals in at least 20 states. The qualifications would remain the same for an October debate, though the party hasn’t set the deadline for measuring fundraising and polling.
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In its announcement, the party states that the second September night would be held only if necessary.
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DNC officials were prepared for potential criticism, releasing a statement from ActBlue Executive Director Erin Hill ahead of Wednesday’s announcement.

“Candidates who will be prepared to take on Trump in the general should already be working to build programs that can bring in 130,000 donors by the second round of debates,” Hill said.

Besides the increased thresholds, it’s significant that candidates must meet both the polling and fundraising marks in the next round. For the first two sessions, a candidate can qualify by meeting one or the other.

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That hill guys sure really cares about beating trump and not *checks notes* getting donors to donate through Actblue.

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So I looked up the Democrat candidate for the primary election next week.

Surprise surprise, the progressive running against the incumbents doesnt even have a fucking website.
The progressive Democrats are basically the 'other' candidates they used to have in former Eastern European countries to create the illusion of an election.
But they have forgotten that is their role in this play.
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So I looked up the Democrat candidate for the primary election next week.

Surprise surprise, the progressive running against the incumbents doesnt even have a fucking website.
The progressive Democrats are basically the 'other' candidates they used to have in former Eastern European countries to create the illusion of an election.
But they have forgotten that is their role in this play.

I swear to god the 2015 progressive candidate didnt even exist. They were a ghost. No website, no interviews, no facebook page, nothing.
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That hill guys sure really cares about beating trump and not *checks notes* getting donors to donate through Actblue.
At some point we're definitely going to see fundraising pushes targeting people to try and get them to donate to "second and third" choices. The polling standards are so low that they'll avoid it for the first set of debates.

I bet the DNC walks back that "have to meet both criteria" thing on this second set of debates, fall is still too soon to cut from 20 candidates to like eight since there's no point to actually dropping out until after Iowa/NH.

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We're going to hit 25,000 again

Groundhog day
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I still can't (and won't) believe the likely candidates for 2020 are Trump, Biden and Sanders.

Jesus fuck, how did we get to a place where all the candidates are older than McCain was in 2008?
gen x was kind of a dud

Christ, I didn't think about it until now, but Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz is our legacy so far.


Obama technically counts, but's it's hard to think of someone that was 30 in 1991 as being of that generation.




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This is why we need a mandatory retirement age for people.

You hit 72, you go to the big farm in the sky.
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Christ, I didn't think about it until now, but Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz is our legacy so far.
Don't worry, you've got Beto
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Does anyone have a map of counties that voted Trump compared to counties hit by tornados in last week?

Because I think Mr Weather God is trying to say something
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhiprakash/democratic-presidential-debates-dnc-rules
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New rules to qualify for the Democratic debates this fall are frustrating operatives and activists who see the criteria as an arbitrary and overly restrictive shift that could dramatically winnow the presidential field months before voting begins, pose an unfair limit to women and candidates of color, and force campaigns to spend more time wooing donors than talking to voters.
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The DNC announced the format for the Sept. 12 debate — which could be split into debates held on two consecutive nights if the field of qualifying candidates is large enough — at 6 a.m. in a press release. Operatives for multiple campaigns said on Wednesday that the DNC gave them no notice in advance. An adviser to one campaign told BuzzFeed News they heard about the requirements through an article published by Politico before they heard from the DNC.

The summer debates are expected to include as many as 20 candidates over two nights, with multiple women and people of color. The new move means that the most diverse field of Democratic candidates ever could be vastly less diverse by the end of the year — especially because the two white men who have been dominating the polls so far, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, came into the race with already high profiles and solid donor bases.

“White men have led in the polls, in the donors, and in the press,” said Jess Morales Rocketto, a Democratic operative and political director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance. “Women and people of color will not make it to the main stage for debate,” she added, saying she’s concerned the requirements will force campaigns to spend money chasing donors instead of on organizers on the ground.

“We’re talking about a donor base not being activated outside of, really, predominantly white men,” said a senior adviser to Julián Castro’s campaign. “I think it requires a lot of creativity about how we activate a donor class that hasn’t been reached yet, and that is a challenge over the course of the summer, because there is a finite number of donors. There may not be 130,000 different donors outside of [those giving to] the people who already have campaign infrastructure.”
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“One thing people are really missing in this conversation is that there is not an unlimited pool of donors,” said Morales Rocketto. “At best, you’re talking about all Democratic primary voters. But we are over 6 months away from the first voters voting so you’re actually talking about a much smaller pool than that.”

Former member of Congress John Delaney, who has been polling at about 1% or below, wrote a letter to Perez on Wednesday to ask how the party came to its decision to increase the fall limits and whom they consulted in that process.

“Are you prioritizing certain candidates — or attributes of certain candidates — in formulation of the criteria,” Delaney wrote in a series of six questions to Perez. “Please disclose your rationale as to why the number of donors is a better standard than polling or other standards.”

A Delaney spokesperson said the campaign had not heard back from the DNC as of Wednesday afternoon.

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Earlier this month, in an interview with CNN, Kirsten Gillibrand described the 65,000-donor threshold for the first debate as “an odd measurable.”

Gillibrand, in her 10th year as a US senator from New York, has yet to say she’s hit the benchmark.

“Like, why do you make that your measurable as opposed to have you won elections before and have you ever run statewide before and how many votes have you gotten before and have you passed legislation and are you effective in your job?” Gillibrand asked.

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Go fuck your upstate cousin bumpkins Gillibitch
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I wonder how the Democrats will sabotage themselves

A) Agressively attack candidate Bernie for being too much of a leftie and throwing their support behind a third party candidate like Howard Schultz instead
B) Nominate a woman (perhaps of color) to play the diversity card even if she's not the most popular candidate outside of their batshit base
C) Not vote for Joe Biden because he's a straight white male
D) Hllary Clinton
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The Democratic National Committee’s stricter new requirements for presidential contenders to appear in party debates this fall triggered swift backlash Wednesday from Democratic candidates, many of whom are now in danger of being cut from the showcase events in September and October.

Some campaigns have already been struggling to reach the 65,000-donor threshold — or secured one percent in three qualified polls — to gain access to the first debates in June and July. But the DNC’s new criteria for the next round of debates — support from 130,000 unique donors as well as at least 2 percent support in four polls — is set to winnow out senators, governors and a number of other Democratic candidates who are not on a trajectory to hit the polling requirement and could have particular trouble hitting the donor requirement absent a viral moment or another future campaign-shaking event.

“The DNC is playing a gatekeeping function and they’re creating a filter to determine which candidates can make their arguments to the American people,” former Rep. John Delaney, who is largely self-funding his presidential campaign, said in an interview with POLITICO after sending a letter to the DNC to request more information on how the requirements were set. “A lot of very consequential rules are being created by the DNC, and we don’t know what goes into them.”

The rules are also reshuffling spending priorities among less-prominent candidates, some of whom have shifted plans to hire organizers based in Iowa or New Hampshire in order to pour money into donation-generating digital advertising.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/29/dnc-democratic-presidential-debates-1347273

The DNC must be tired of having so many candidates.

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I'm pretty sure the President can rename ships through the Sea Czar, he should rename it to the U.S.S. Uncaptured.

edit: oh, it's actually named after his grandfather and then father and then the Senator as well

It also seems to be appropriately named:
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I can see him calling it the uss Hillary Clinton and then order it sunk to build an oyster reef
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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1134116464426921985

Trump responds by saying he didn't know about it then trashes McCain.
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I believe trump didn't even know about the navy having a boat with that name. He's that dumb.
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https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1134116464426921985

Trump responds by saying he didn't know about it then trashes McCain.

Prediction in about three hours: trump saying he ordered it covered because he didn't want to show weakness in japan where mccain was a pow.

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The Russians worked to help me get elected but I didn't work with them cause I say I didn't. CASE CLOSED! :trumps
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I honestly think the Russians tried to keep Trump in the dark as much as possible and ordered their cronies actually trying to infiltrate the campaign the same thing.
They wanted to fuck things up because Putin believed Clinton had organized protests against his regime as secretary and the result of them easily hacking her emails(which were in hindsight probably hacked by every foreign intelligence service) was even better than the Russians could've predicted.

In the end Mueller found a lot but he didn't find the smoking gun connecting the GRU to the Trump family and even the money trail through Deutsche Bank went cold.

Kushner and Jr. talked to Israeli agents and made encrypted calls to the head of Nascar for some reason. Kushner even wanted to use the secure lines at the Russian embassy because the Trump Org didn't have those, and the Russians refused.
Can you imagine what that must've been like for the investigators. Expecting to find a trail to the Kremlin only to end up in the swamp of the Trump Organization and all the weird characters connected to the Trump verse.
Plus the asinine idea to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. "Our boy can be President, we can have Ivanka sit on Putin's chair!"  :lol

What made the case for collusion even weaker was in fact the FBI agents messaging back and forth about what an idiot Trump was and that they would need some sort of 'insurance policy' against him.
And finally there is the small detail of the dossier about Trump and the Russian hookers having a golden shower on Obama's bed, which was spread as misinformation.

Whatever happens during the 2020 campaign, it'll be hard to top this level of crazy. If someone had written this as a movie script it would've been shot down for not making sense.  :lol
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the Bore is all about the D

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Small states with disproportionate election leverage are never going to volunteer that into law. That's why the EC and the Senate have to be abolished through violent force.
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FBI, I have no idea who this "Shostakovich" person is I swear

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Was that 30,000 number ever verified? Where did it come from?
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How did she even find time to write 30,000 emails, let alone delete them? The 30,000 is a fraction of the total number of emails. Is she excelsiorlef?


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How did she even find time to write 30,000 emails, let alone delete them? The 30,000 is a fraction of the total number of emails. Is she excelsiorlef?

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Was that 30,000 number ever verified? Where did it come from?

I believe from her lawyers being transparent about what they went through before handing over the data.

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1134196622873767936

Imagine trying to go home after committing treason and the feds live in your building.

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They wanted to fuck things up because Putin believed Clinton had organized protests against his regime as secretary and the result of them easily hacking her emails(which were in hindsight probably hacked by every foreign intelligence service) was even better than the Russians could've predicted.

They hacked Podesta and the DNC. As far as we know, they never hacked HRC's account.

Actually, I feel pretty confident in saying that they didn't, because we definitely would have seen at least some of the 30,000 personal emails leaked if they had.
What I meant was her campaign emails and even so among the Podesta emails were some messages from HRC as well.

Plus there was Guccifer who pleaded guilty to hacking her server although his claim has never been proven
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/281211-hacker-guccifer-pleads-guilty

Before he went off the rails Schindler did a pretty good piece on it
https://observer.com/2016/06/how-emailgate-weakened-americas-national-security/
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Brief thoughts from the red state of Michigan  :doge

1. I have no issue with Pelosi slow walking. What does impeachment solve or accomplish? Post-Mueller statement it makes more sense to impeach, given that he's asking congress to do its job. But again...what's the point, going into an election year? Trump isn't being removed from office. The hope (which I was wrong about btw) was that the report would reveal some things so egregious that republicans would have to come to the table for impeachment. For instance, evidence of blackmail or direct working with the Russian govt. That ship has sailed fellas.

2. The democrat field is reminding me a lot of the 2012 GOP field. Too many candidates, too much fuckery, and in the end maybe the incumbent wins easily. Or maybe not. Trump is a worse position and is has less electoral strength than Obama did but I still think he can win depending on what happens. The major factor hurting Trump is the midwest. Tariffs are NOT popular here. It's not a coincidence republicans got decimated in the Midwest last year. People aren't happy about that shit, and it's costing jobs. But will democrats nominate someone who can talk to those people?

3. Honestly the only candidates I "like" are Yang and Warren, simply because they've discussed tax policy without sounding stupid. But neither are good presidential candidates. Yang isn't winning anything obviously, and Warren is too easy to clown and would come off weak against Trump.

4.  :doge white people got us in this mess, and white people will have to get us out. Specifically a white dude. Beto can win. Biden can probably win but he's a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and I'm sure there's another shoe waiting to drop on him touching chicks. Everyone else? Nah...I don't see it.
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President Trump delivered the commencement address to the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs Thursday,

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The president praised their work and accomplishments, and announced he's exonerating all graduates with restrictions on their records for pulling pranks and generally misbehaving so they can all enter active duty on even footing. Mr. Trump explained that "even the best cadets can sometimes get a little bit carried away."

:pika

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-air-force-academy-graduation-commencement-address-colorado-today-live-updates-2019-05-30/

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I’m pretty sure “I played a prank st the academy” never makes it into your service record...

Air Force cadets are actually civilians and not in the military. Thus they are not subject to the UCMJ not do they have “service records” at that point.

At best they probably have that lineal number thing.


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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1134240657621438464

Cool, we got products from China going up in price and products from Mexico going up in price, all at a time when American produce in the midwest and central states are being decimated by flooding.
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I genuinely wtf'd at that tweet.
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Cool, can’t wait to spend more money on literally everything
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My brain keeps spinning around in circles, like, can you arbitrarily enact tariffs on a NAFTA member? Apparently the authority is related to his emergency powers, so what emergency are we in and what determines if we're no longer in an emergency? How can you stop illegal immigration when most people are visa overstays? Why wouldn't Mexico start a tit-for-tat retaliation, seeing as stopping illegal immigration is impossible and this is a major breach of relations between the two countries?

I feel insane just thinking about this
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Big fan of these tariffs. Get fucked car companies
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Another win for Taco Bell. :rejoice

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My brain keeps spinning around in circles, like, can you arbitrarily enact tariffs on a NAFTA member? Apparently the authority is related to his emergency powers, so what emergency are we in and what determines if we're no longer in an emergency?

Like most other things that Trump is doing, it's not a question or whether he has the ultimate authority to do it or not, it's whether Senate Republicans will do anything to stop him. And we all know by know that they aren't going to do anything.

Or you can pray for a John Roberts swing vote.
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