US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Let's Cyber]

President Trump on Wednesday balked at an immigration deal that would include protections for people from Haiti and African countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the conversation.

Jesus Christ.

[Mandark]

This is going to really upset his core supporters, who only oppose illegal immigration because they strongly believe in the rule of law.

[toku]

https://twitter.com/gilbertjasono/status/951582928626225157

[agrajag]

As if Norwegians are trying to come to US en masse anyway

[agrajag]

No, this just happened.

[Nola]

wait, this isn't the same time as when he said everyone in Haiti has AIDS and people in Africa live in huts?

This about sums up the Trump presidency.

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/951585097483988992

[curly]

It's kinda perfect, honestly. It's racist, which his supporters love, but they can defend it by saying "well don't you want well off, educated immigrants? Maybe YOU'RE the real racist" which they also love

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/951585097483988992

Looking over the places I bellwether about this shit(not that anyone needs or probably should take it seriously) The reviews seem surpassingly mixed at best right now. Definitely wasn't the case for the kneeling stuff. Trumpkins ate that shit up.


Granted, Fox News and the right-wing machine hasn't had its chance to sink its teeth in on this one yet, like with Charlottesville and to a much lesser extent Net Neutrality, I suspect his base will come around....Though probably the even more likely scenario is that some other fuckery happens tomorrow or the next day and people forget about it just like the AID's comment.

[Nola]

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[Mandark]

I'm not even sure if this is more blatant than he's been. Dude said we should ban all immigrants of a certain religion, at a campaign rally, to cheers.

[Great Rumbler]

The Trump administration really is the gift that keeps on the giving, except the gifts are really bad and some of them give you horrible disease or just make you feel physically ill.

[Joe Molotov]

He's just like me!

[Assimilate]

I'm not even sure if this is more blatant than he's been. Dude said we should ban all immigrants of a certain religion, at a campaign rally, to cheers.

Trump is a shithead but it's still funny laughing at the same people that argue against religious freedom are the ones that get mad when the president tries to prevent people from a crazy ideology coming into the country. 

[thehunter116]

He's just like me!

He tells it like it is.


https://twitter.com/zarzarbinkss/status/951588057467310081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.rawgit.com%2Fs9e%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fmaster%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23951588057467310081

That's why they're forgotten.

[thehunter116]

I'm not even sure if this is more blatant than he's been. Dude said we should ban all immigrants of a certain religion, at a campaign rally, to cheers.

Trump is a shithead but it's still funny laughing at the same people that argue against religious freedom are the ones that get mad when the president tries to prevent people from a crazy ideology coming into the country. 

Islam is no more crazy then a religion that thinks a burning bush spoke to Moses and told him to build an ark and get two of every animal.

[thehunter116]

I'm not even sure if this is more blatant than he's been. Dude said we should ban all immigrants of a certain religion, at a campaign rally, to cheers.

Trump is a shithead but it's still funny laughing at the same people that argue against religious freedom are the ones that get mad when the president tries to prevent people from a crazy ideology coming into the country. 

Islam is no more crazy then a religion that thinks a burning bush spoke to Moses and told him to build an ark and get two of every animal.

Islam also believes those things happened

Kinda my point...that crazy religion is derived from the "not crazy" ones.

[Assimilate]

I'm not even sure if this is more blatant than he's been. Dude said we should ban all immigrants of a certain religion, at a campaign rally, to cheers.

Trump is a shithead but it's still funny laughing at the same people that argue against religious freedom are the ones that get mad when the president tries to prevent people from a crazy ideology coming into the country. 

Islam is no more crazy then a religion that thinks a burning bush spoke to Moses and told him to build an ark and get two of every animal.

Islam also believes those things happened

Kinda my point...that crazy religion is derived from the "not crazy" ones.

No dude, no. Islam is far worse in many ways. There's not even room for a reform of any type. That's a huge problem. We're also at a point in history where there's no room for "oh they'll evolve!". A religious zealot gets a hold of a government with nukes they'd have no reason not to use them. It's a serious problem. Defending this garbage because it's "brown people" is fucking aborrhently stupid

[thehunter116]

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I don't get it.

[thehunter116]

I'm not even sure if this is more blatant than he's been. Dude said we should ban all immigrants of a certain religion, at a campaign rally, to cheers.

Trump is a shithead but it's still funny laughing at the same people that argue against religious freedom are the ones that get mad when the president tries to prevent people from a crazy ideology coming into the country. 

Islam is no more crazy then a religion that thinks a burning bush spoke to Moses and told him to build an ark and get two of every animal.

Islam also believes those things happened

Kinda my point...that crazy religion is derived from the "not crazy" ones.

No dude, no. Islam is far worse in many ways. There's not even room for a reform of any type. That's a huge problem. We're also at a point in history where there's no room for "oh they'll evolve!". A religious zealot gets a hold of a government with nukes they'd have no reason not to use them. It's a serious problem. Defending this garbage because it's "born people" is fucking aborrhently stupid

North Korea?

[Assimilate]

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I don't get it.

He blocked us i think. He felt good wanting to point that out i guess, who knows. He needs this.

North Korea?

Actually, no. Fat boy isn't a religious zealot nor is he crazy.

[thehunter116]

Not sure why I was blocked but ok.

[CatsCatsCats]

Ive never used the ignore function, too much of a bore reading completist. Sometimes it prevents interactions that get pretty tiresome to read though, so I support its use

[Nola]

[kingv]

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/951585097483988992

It’s probably true... but theoretically someone would care that his base is shrinking.

It’s like 56% if the country or some shit think he’s completely unfit for the job, and he has no interest in trying to convince them otherwise.

I just hope he tries to run for re-election.

[thehunter116]

I don't care, myself, but I'd guess it's because all your posts fall under:
- getting triggered by etiolate or assimilate
- parroting a democratic party talking point
- begging for benjipwns to smear your face with his seed

I like you, though

 

[Boogie]

Ive never used the ignore function, too much of a bore reading completist.

*high five*

I'm a lifelong member of the "ignore lists are against my religion" club.   Some of you deserve it real bad, but I'll never click that button for any of you.

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/951580023974170624

whew lads

[zomgee]

Clinton should have campaigned harder in the shithole states

[agrajag]

I agree for the most part but I ended up putting Novid on ignore.

[Boredfrom]

It's kinda perfect, honestly. It's racist, which his supporters love, but they can defend it by saying "well don't you want well off, educated immigrants? Maybe YOU'RE the real racist" which they also love

They don’t care about well educated immigrants, if that was the case the DACA shouldn’t be a big issue for Trump base.

[El Babua]

https://twitter.com/crissles/status/951664565011603457

[I'm a Puppy!]

Honestly, Trump could say, "It's time we get those wetbacks, sand niccas, feggits and ungreatful niccas out of the country." And his base would be like "He's a little rough around the edges, but he tells it like it is, you know?"

[thehunter116]

Honestly, Trump could say, "It's time we get those wetbacks, sand niccas, feggits and ungreatful niccas out of the country." And his base would be like "He's a little rough around the edges, but he tells it like it is, you know?"

It's because they're racist.

[Great Rumbler]

It's a lot like prowrestling, I just ignore the bits I don't care about till the great heel etiolate sprays the ring with a fountain of L's.

etiolate is Kurt Angle and the milk is L's.

[Himu]

How are Fox news and conservatives twisting the "shit hole" comment?

[thehunter116]

Ive never used the ignore function, too much of a bore reading completist.

*high five*

I'm a lifelong member of the "ignore lists are against my religion" club.   Some of you deserve it real bad, but I'll never click that button for any of you.

I was like that before but I'm just tired and would rather avoid the dumber posts while I casually browse.

It's a lot like prowrestling, I just ignore the bits I don't care about till the great heel etiolate sprays the ring with a fountain of L's.

I'm not really sure how pointing out Islam isn't bad is a dumb post but ok. 

[thehunter116]

How is Fox news twisting the "shit hole" comment?

It's just bar room talk.

https://twitter.com/zarzarbinkss/status/951588057467310081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thebore.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D44608.14280


No seriously, that's what they're doing.

[Himu]

What about other conservatives

[thehunter116]

What about other conservatives

Rick Wilson murdered a Trumper on live television.

https://twitter.com/GrandeAkande/status/951663881209950209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.rawgit.com%2Fs9e%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fmaster%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23951663881209950209

[I'm a Puppy!]

Well, he did gut him like a fish.
 

[Great Rumbler]

What about other conservatives

Rick Wilson murdered a Trumper on live television.

https://twitter.com/GrandeAkande/status/951663881209950209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.rawgit.com%2Fs9e%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fmaster%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23951663881209950209

[Himu]

What about other conservatives

Rick Wilson murdered a Trumper on live television.

https://twitter.com/GrandeAkande/status/951663881209950209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.rawgit.com%2Fs9e%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fmaster%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23951663881209950209

(I) Fuck with your soul like ether
(Will) Teach you – the king – you know you
(Not) God's Son across the belly
(Lose) I prove you lost already

[benjipwns]

clip is semi-apropos in a subtle way as the story is always that Normal Lear never intended Archie to become the most popular character by far rather than the ignorant bigoted foil who audiences would loathe

and the deciding straw-vote for his development was O'Connor strongly arguing in favor of the version that he eventually became where the character is shown as more an uninformed and ignorant product of his environment/biases yet also shown to be ultimately good at heart but good to individuals even as he's virulently bigoted against the groups they come from... something that much like is often seen in real life as I'm sure we've all experienced, people who can't quite make the connection and fall back on "some of them are good people, i assume" ... the infamous Sammy Davis kiss came about because Davis loved the character and related to him due to remembering his own biases before getting out in the world

iirc, part of the show turning it down as it went on was O'Connor was so good that people were often assuming he truly agreed with Archie...a whole bunch of actors also turned down parts on the show because of the original version of Archie, like I think Harrison Ford was originally supposed to be Meathead

[benjipwns]

also speaking of Nixon and the tapes, there's a whole bunch of them where they talk about the latest episode, including one, again iirc where Nixon at length describes an episode to someone who had missed it that week

[benjipwns]

Ive never used the ignore function, too much of a bore reading completist.

*high five*

I'm a lifelong member of the "ignore lists are against my religion" club.   Some of you deserve it real bad, but I'll never click that button for any of you.

I was like that before but I'm just tired and would rather avoid the dumber posts while I casually browse.

It's a lot like prowrestling, I just ignore the bits I don't care about till the great heel etiolate sprays the ring with a fountain of L's.

I told him months ago that it was his last chance to understand what I was saying and he failed that. If you can't produce the ability to be worth talking to then you get parsed.  I've had him on ignore for months.

This isn't a persona. It's a reflection how I view many of you.

[Mandark]

a whole bunch of actors also turned down parts on the show because of the original version of Archie, like I think Harrison Ford was originally supposed to be Meathead

I've heard this but not sure I believe it. Ford turning down a starring prime time network TV role at that point in his career would be fairly drastic.

[benjipwns]

yeah, I would like to re-iterate that's one of the larger names I remember from the histories I've read about it/TV in the era/etc. which are always sort of a Rashomon story by default, I'm sure there's plenty of cases where the person went on to embellish the story as a great stand against bigotry when they might have just lost the part

there was some has been major actor who for years insisted they were going to be the lead on Star Trek but felt there was no future in sci-fi, but The Making of Star Trek which had all the original memos never listed the actor on any of the ones they considered, even Shatner more fell into the role

of course there's all kinds of stories about John Wayne (other than he was a cigarillo) turning down this role or that for being crass or anti-American or whatever

my favorite is Sean Connery's claim he turned down Gandalf and would have made $500 million from the role as he couldn't see it working out, so as a result did League of Extraordinary Gentleman (for which his salary was 20% of the films budget) which just confirmed his opinion on the state of Hollywood being mindless trash leading to his retirement

[benjipwns]

my private tracker ratios say otherwise

[TVC15]

my private tracker ratios say otherwise

Commie.

[benjipwns]

[etiolate]

You take that and throw in people believing the gorilla channel story and that's why you can't get any real behavior accountability for Trump. Too many people are full of shit. You do have to actually be deserving of the higher ground in order to use it, which people should have figured out when Trump won in spite of everything.

[Stoney Mason]

I for one am shocked that our racist president continues to say racist things.

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/951585097483988992

Of course now today, having witnessed the backlash, they're pushing a new narrative that Trump didn't say those things. You're losing if you're argument is "actually he only called Africa a shit hole"

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

I for one am shocked that our racist president continues to say racist things.

I find it hilarious that the 'shithole' comment is the one that confirms he's a racist for most people. The dude built his empire on racial discrimination.

[Stoney Mason]

I for one am shocked that our racist president continues to say racist things.

I find it hilarious that the 'shithole' comment is the one that confirms he's a racist for most people. The dude built his empire on racial discrimination.

It only confirms it for a certain demographic of white person (and not all white people) who lives in a bubble. Let's be honest. lots of people who voted for him agree with the shithole stuff but just wouldn't publicly admit it.

Whether its the Wall, or banning people, or Obama stuff, its all been racist. For years and for decades before it. It's just when a person reaches being president we have to pretend that he isn't a racist, because admitting you knowingly voted for a racist makes you look evil.

[Assimilate]

At this point Trump can really get away with anything. The only way this will end is anti-climatic. He'll continue doing this stupid shit, pass very few legislation, and then not get re-elected.

The real danger here is if he opened the door for others just like him to come in.

[Great Rumbler]

So...what about the Fake News Awards? Are they still or nah?

[Nola]

In other news, Seth Rich has been putting in a ton of overtime from the grave recently:

Pawn Storm[also known as Sednit, Fancy Bear, APT28, Sofacy, and STRONTIUM], the hacking group aligned to the Russian government that penetrated the Democratic National Committee, has mounted additional "brazen  attacks" over the past eight months, including persistent targeting of the U.S. Senate internal email system, according to a cybersecurity firm that has tracked their progress.

Pawn Storm has been attacking political organizations in France, Germany, Montenegro, Turkey, Ukraine, and the United States since 2015. We saw attacks against political organizations again in the second half of 2017.

We have seen several International Olympic Wintersport Federations, such as the European Ice Hockey Federation, the International Ski Federation, the International Biathlon Union, the International Bobsleigh and Skeleton Federation and the International Luge Federation, among the group’s targets in the second half of 2017. This is noteworthy due to the timing correlation between several Russian Olympic players being banned for life in fall, 2017.

Beginning in June 2017, phishing sites were set up mimicking the ADFS (Active Directory Federation Services) of the U.S. Senate. By looking at the digital fingerprints of these phishing sites and comparing them with a large data set that spans almost five years, we can uniquely relate them to a couple of Pawn Storm incidents in 2016 and 2017.

http://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/update-pawn-storm-new-targets-politically-motivated-campaigns/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Anti-MalwareBlog+%28Trendlabs+Security+Intelligence+Blog%29

https://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/us/security/news/cyber-attacks/espionage-cyber-propaganda-two-years-of-pawn-storm

[etiolate]

You take that and throw in people believing the gorilla channel story and that's why you can't get any real behavior accountability for Trump. Too many people are full of shit. You do have to actually be deserving of the higher ground in order to use it, which people should have figured out when Trump won in spite of everything.

People believed the gorilla channel story for like an hour.

It was never an actual thing. The joke is how plausible it sounds.

But you're a fucking idiot, and I don't know why I'm replying to you.

You all need to understand that this point of view is irrational. Start from the point of "I do not know this to be completely true."

Then find your way from there.

BTW, you reply to me because I have something to say and most here do not.