US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[benjipwns]

this is the kind of candidate that gets me out to the polls to vote

[benjipwns]

he also mentions how he has long considered his need to become President to save the planet but that events couldn't wait for him to hit age 35 so he's now targeting the governorship

[Nintex]

this is the kind of candidate that gets me out to the polls to vote

How 'bout you go Poke-mon-go-to-the-polls 

Ted's at it again
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1003848737205243904

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1003848764325617664

[benjipwns]

California should require all candidates to disclose massive opposition research in the form of a 3000 page suicide note + appendix of negative e-mails

Leland Yee might be the Secretary of State or San Francisco Mayor instead of in prison!

[benjipwns]

apparently he posted this to his facebook and website and every other social media and then when the date passed and he wasn't dead he said it was just a joke that he hoped would stop Trump

[Nintex]

apparently he posted this to his facebook and website and every other social media and then when the date passed and he wasn't dead he said it was just a joke that he hoped would stop Trump

Narrator: "It didn't"

Imagine that guy during a natural disaster or Russian invasion.

"Sir, there's earthquakes and hurricanes and Russian paratroopers are landing everywhere, what should we do?"

"Don't worry fam, I'll make a joke about it on Facebook"

[benjipwns]

something you won't find out on neoliberal corporate media like CNN, had to do original research to find this out, and go deep in the intellectual dark web (i assume)

that's why you triggered liebtards all look like chumps trapped in Optimus' and The Fallen One's Kevin McHale style Torture Chamber when they pull out certain ideas of information you haven't run into before

stalker beaks probably hasn't even fathered 18 kids by 17 women as if he was a modern day Shawn Kemp

[team filler]

"stalker beaks" 

[Kara]

http://brettmurdock.com

[benjipwns]

boo his FAQ doesn't include "How long have you been blind?"

[team filler]

probably an... oversight 

[benjipwns]

his bio should at least start out with noting his inspiration for battling corporate crime was due to a childhood encounter with a radioactive isotope that was negligently secured in a truck

or at minimum some basic info about his interests that includes "Favorite Actors: Ben Affleck, Jennifer Gardner, Vincent D'Onofrio"

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/1003004969967071232


The real racists are the ones who don't see the Chinese as our enemies.

[Kara]

The culture here is not normal. Two of the safest cities in America are in this county (they are both corporate police states to be fair) and there are several personal statements in my ballot about our out of control crime.

[benjipwns]

STOLLER RETWEETED THIS:
https://twitter.com/underbreath/status/1003591068607057920

BOOM, MANDARK AND CURLY AND GREAT RUMBLER DEFEATED FOREVER

[benjipwns]

they are both corporate police states to be fair

Vernon?

[Kara]

Irvine - built by and largely a fiefdom of the Irvine Company

Mission Viejo - started as a spin-off of the Irvine Company and was sold to Philip Morris who built it

[Mandark]

does anyone else see some conflicting priorities between "I will prosecute more crimes" and "I will stop prosecuting as many crimes"?

Yeah, but not necessarily incoherent. I think you can be really skeptical of US prison culture while thinking certain types of crime need to be treated more seriously by prosecutors. It's something you'll see people on the left trying to hash out about domestic abuse, for instance.

The ones he picked out (elder abuse, hate crimes, corruption) seem to be aimed either at certain constituencies or recent headlines in Orange County.

[benjipwns]

my second guess would have been Industry

huh Vernon was apparently the inspiration for True Detective

[Kara]

my second guess would have been Industry

huh Vernon was apparently the inspiration for True Detective

Vernon was one of the only wet cities in LA during our first great failed drug war (Prohibition) so it had a team in the PCL. Very LA. Very Vernon.

[benjipwns]

when i took intro to public administration, the main paper and presentation was to identify a city with public administration problems, everyone basically picked places in Michigan that need roads repaired or new sewers or better internet speeds

i picked Vernon because it's fucking amazing

just one example that probably showed i was the only person in the class not going for a MPA

another would be the time the prof asked why Illinois (where he was from) might implement such stringent ethics rules and regulations on public employees and i said "because all the governors go to prison" and people laughed nervously until the prof said "that's a pretty concise yet accurate way of putting it" before going into his lecture about it further

[Kara]

I haven't been in Vernon in a long time, but I recall it preserving its factory town #aesthetic much more than Industry--which is now a series of strip malls and a Newegg warehouse with a mayor--did.

There's also Commerce, which does all this stuff but with a casino instead of industrial / post-industrial players.

[benjipwns]

this was in 2011 or so, but almost every picture of it i could find were just warehouses with no signs/identification and then the crappy housing for the lower tier city employees (who are all family members); one dude was city administrator, clerk, treasurer, finance director, RDA secretary and head of the Vernon power company (i forgot that they had their own energy company) by the time he was fired after running the city since like 1975 or something in the wake of the Bell scandal shining a light on other cities in California (but retained his $500,000+ pension and benefits!)

One of 25 U.S. Cities with Class 1 Fire Department, one of four California cities with own health department

not to mention the aforementioned power company

also because there's only like 50 registered voters, at one point eight people moved into the city to try and get elected to the City Council, but because Vernon owns all the housing they were evicted almost immediately

the legislature at the time was working on a bill to eliminate cities under a population limit and certain other factors that applied to only city in California, Vernon, it passed the Assembly easily, but somehow got crushed in the Senate after Vernon lobbied against it

[curly]

I'm not worthy to be a California voter.

(Image removed from quote.)

there was one candidate for statewide office who used his entire voters guide statement to rant about trans people being mentally ill, corrupting children, and plotting to destroy the "normal" children :/

STOLLER RETWEETED THIS:
https://twitter.com/underbreath/status/1003591068607057920

BOOM, MANDARK AND CURLY AND GREAT RUMBLER DEFEATED FOREVER

you joke but stoller has some of the most galaxy brain takes on Marxism I've ever seen, rivaling the Judeo-Bolshevism cultural marxism postmodern-neomarxism set.

https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/869939724508647424

[Brehvolution]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/04/ex-navy-sailor-pardoned-by-trump-says-hes-suing-comey-and-obama.html

A former Navy sailor who is one of five people to receive a pardon from President Donald Trump is planning to file a lawsuit against Obama administration officials, alleging that he was subject to unequal protection of the law.

Specifically, Kristian Saucier, who served a year in federal prison for taking photos of classified sections of the submarine on which he worked, argues that the same officials who meted out punishment to him for his actions chose to be lenient with Hillary Clinton in her use of a private email server and handling of classified information.

His lawyer, Ronald Daigle, told Fox News on Monday that the lawsuit, which he expects to file soon in Manhattan, will name the U.S. Department of Justice, former FBI Director James Comey and former President Barack Obama as defendants, among others.

“They interpreted the law in my case to say it was criminal,” Saucier told Fox News, referring to prosecuting authorities in his case, “but they didn’t prosecute Hillary Clinton. Hillary is still walking free. Two guys on my ship did the same thing and weren’t treated as criminals. We want them to correct the wrong.”

bu bu Hillary

[Brehvolution]

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1003845673073238016

fox needs to get dragged hard for this shit. Showing players kneeling for prayer while trying to make it look like they are kneeling for the anthem is pretty low, even for fox.

[curly]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2018/06/05/david-koch-is-leaving-koch-industries-stepping-down-from-americans-for-prosperity/?utm_term=.12021c3cca57

uh oh looks like the funding for the benji project is in jeopardy

[Kara]

Speaking of my good friend and far-left ideological enemy benji, I notice he didn't run a hit job on Zoltan Istvan, no doubt out of some misguided loyalty to his former libertarian confederates.

http://www.zoltanistvan.com/

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1003845673073238016

fox needs to get dragged hard for this shit. Showing players kneeling for prayer while trying to make it look like they are kneeling for the anthem is pretty low, even for fox.

https://twitter.com/zoowithroy/status/1003977577487323141

[Joe Molotov]

Speaking of my good friend and far-left ideological enemy benji, I notice he didn't run a hit job on Zoltan Istvan, no doubt out of some misguided loyalty to his former libertarian confederates.

http://www.zoltanistvan.com/

(Image removed from quote.)

ZOLTAN ISTAVAN is a HUMAN LIBERTARIAN candidate for your EARTH GOVERNOR. Only ZOLTAN can protect your families and guide you through THE CHANGING TIMES, when the Elder Ones walk among us again.

[kingv]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/04/ex-navy-sailor-pardoned-by-trump-says-hes-suing-comey-and-obama.html

A former Navy sailor who is one of five people to receive a pardon from President Donald Trump is planning to file a lawsuit against Obama administration officials, alleging that he was subject to unequal protection of the law.

Specifically, Kristian Saucier, who served a year in federal prison for taking photos of classified sections of the submarine on which he worked, argues that the same officials who meted out punishment to him for his actions chose to be lenient with Hillary Clinton in her use of a private email server and handling of classified information.

His lawyer, Ronald Daigle, told Fox News on Monday that the lawsuit, which he expects to file soon in Manhattan, will name the U.S. Department of Justice, former FBI Director James Comey and former President Barack Obama as defendants, among others.

“They interpreted the law in my case to say it was criminal,” Saucier told Fox News, referring to prosecuting authorities in his case, “but they didn’t prosecute Hillary Clinton. Hillary is still walking free. Two guys on my ship did the same thing and weren’t treated as criminals. We want them to correct the wrong.”

bu bu Hillary

This dude did get screwed. I think his lawsuit is frivolous but there is no way that dude should have been prosecuted with a crime.

I was a submariner  and this “crime” has likely been repeated by every crew in the damn sub force at some point in time, often by the official ships photographer (which frankly is just a dude that know how to hold a camera).

A world where Petraeus walks free and this guy goes to jail is maddeningly unfair. Honestly, it should have been handled as NJP and docked him a stripe and 30 days bread and water. (I always used to try to get the captain to give that punishment out in Captains mast, but he never would :-/)

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Talking about the CA Governor race and not bringing up cesp5 



Of course, I voted for the only honest candidate running:



My favorite though has to go to the rebuttal to argument in favor of prop 71 (Making all props become law five days after election results are verified):

The current language of the State Constitution makes a ballot measure approved by voters take effect (unless the measure otherwise provides) “the day after the election.”

Because a measure cannot (chronologically) take effect until the result of the vote has been determined and certified, the phrase “the day after the election” means only that a measure which passes may be retroactive to that earlier date.

In the case cited by proponents, the voters’ 2016 decision on a referendum to uphold the Legislature’s ban on single-use plastic bags took effect when the outcome of the election was certified, and the earlier date did not matter. But sometimes an earlier (retroactive) date can matter.

For example, suppose there were an initiative on the June 5, 2018 ballot which proposed that serial child molesters had to be sentenced by judges to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

If Proposition 71 were to pass, the new life-in-prison law (in the above hypothetical) could not take effect until the final vote certification—giving child molesters time (up to 38 days currently) to attack more victims under the sentencing law voters had seen fit to change.

Proposition 71 appears to be unnecessary and disadvantageous in some situations.

http://voterguide.sos.ca.gov/propositions/71/arguments-rebuttals.htm

[kingv]

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I don’t understand why he cut bangs into his twisties.

[studyguy]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1004043820831596544

Good thing he won't have to worry about it this year. 

[studyguy]

How did I double post?


 

[Nintex]

Trump's capacity to troll his opponents never ceases to amaze.

[Brehvolution]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/05/us/hogg-family-home-swatting-incident-trnd/index.html

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/1004080630337073154

[Steve Contra]

https://politics.theonion.com/rain-soaked-robert-mueller-lets-manafort-surf-one-final-1826578337

[kingv]

Y’all really disappoint me that nobody has mentioned that Dennis rodman is going to the Singapore Summit.

Pompeo, trump and Dennis Rodman is the American delegation.

I’m hoping South Korea decides to bring PSY.

[Kara]

We also didn't talk about how the wedding cake baker with an imaginary friend wasn't treated in a neutral manner by Colorado when he broke the law because his imaginary friend told him to according to 7 Supreme Court justices.

[Nintex]

Or how George's wife put on her nicest dress and went on Fox News to ask for a pardon for her husband
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1003799012712108032

Or how Cocaine Mitch has cancelled recess so the Dems can't campaign

 

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1004113438216474629

[Joe Molotov]

No, it's the children who are wrong.

[Nintex]

Trump is obviously going to pardon himself. The question is not if but when.

[Nintex]

It doesn't matter if the president pardons himself. The president is not subject to normal laws. It's up to Congress to determine if he's guilty of a crime and can be removed from office.

"Now that the President is pardoned Jake..."

"But Mr. Giuliani, this is outrageous how can you look at yourself in the mirror when you represent this man"

"Now that the President is pardoned Jake... he could walk in here and shoot you. He could shoot Comey or Mueller. He could do any of that and get away with it.
To be perfectly honest Jake, his lawyers including myself really let him down so he didn't really see any other option because he feels he is innocent"

"Ted Please, I beg you try and get this man out of office. Vote for impeachment for the sake of this country that we both love"

"Well Jake, where were the Democrats and CNN when Barrack Obama ruled by executive order? When he choose to bypass Congress to socialize healthcare and not listen to the will of the American People?"

"But clearly this is not the same..."

"It is the same Jake, except President Trump is making America Great Again and not Socialist"

*10 years later*

"A 3rd term or even a 4th term for President Trump. Your thoughts on this senator Cruz."

"Well you do know that FDR had three terms and we were at war just like we are now so no I don't think President Trump running for a 3rd or 4th term is that crazy"

"BUT WE HADN'T DECLARED WAR OURSELVES WITH FUCKING DENMARK FOR SERVING THE WRONG BURGERS AT A STATE DINNER TED"

"Well when Barrack Obama..."

[VomKriege]

It doesn't matter if the president pardons himself. The president is not subject to normal laws. It's up to Congress to determine if he's guilty of a crime and can be removed from office.

He would be subject to them as soon as he would leave his office though, isn't it ? Which would seem the most likely outcome (as it is in most democracies : the office is protected and may suspend proceedings but no private citizen is above the law), though with Trump, who knows ?

That something so absurd is ever entertained is worrying on its face.

[Nintex]

Without joking though.

Bush got away with this bro rigging the election.
Bush got away scott free with the 'oops' Iraq war and all war crimes.
Clinton got away with a few scandals under his belt.
Nixon in the end, got away with only his ego tarnished.

Being President is more or less a pardon by itself and then there's Pence
A) Trump is impeached, Pence becomes president, Pence pardons Trump
B) Trump is only in office for 1 term. New President doesn't want to stir the pot and make Donald Trump the headline for another 4 years and decides to not pursue any charges or investigations

All the #resistance is doing now is speeding up the process of Pence to become President.

[agrajag]

So Scott Pruitt was using his position to hook his wife up with a job at Chik-fil-A

[agrajag]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/05/world/americas/us-un-migrant-children-families.html

[VomKriege]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/05/world/americas/us-un-migrant-children-families.html

The Globalists are so desperate they are not even hiding anymore.

[Steve Contra]

All the #resistance is doing now is speeding up the process of Pence to become President.

Are you calling the office of the special counsel the #resistance 

[benjipwns]

Speaking of my good friend and far-left ideological enemy benji, I notice he didn't run a hit job on Zoltan Istvan, no doubt out of some misguided loyalty to his former libertarian confederates.

http://www.zoltanistvan.com/

you know that guy in fringe party circles that you're so familiar with because he's tried to get into and run for everything forever that you don't even notice, that's Zoltan

i did notice on that "California Voters Guide" page I got some of those quotes earlier from that he was touting the fact that he "was a serious contender for the Libertarian Vice Presidential nomination twice" when he totally wasn't, Gary Johnson had picked his running mates way before the conventions, which was a minor scandal both times because the LP still likes to decide those things at the conventions...they're usually used as proxy votes for/against the top candidate as those traditionally have been relatively uncontested by any wings of the parties...

to use GJ, denying him a first ballot majority in 2016 was one of these, but in both 2012 and 2016, not making the VP unanimous was the other, by the wing that's upset he wants to block grant Medicare first rather than eliminating it day one, or the wing that was upset when he said immigrants have the same human rights as US citizens

Zoltan wasn't even on the convention ballot because he was running as a Transhumanist:

Istvan helped to publicize his campaign in late 2015 by driving a bus shaped like a casket – the "Immortality Bus" – across the United States.[80][81] Istvan planned the bus tour to raise awareness of life extension.[81][82] At the end of the Immortality Bus tour, Istvan delivered a "Transhumanist Bill of Rights" to the U.S. Capitol.[83]

His 20-point platform includes a universal basic income, increased funding for space travel and taking money from the military and putting it into science and medicine.[84][85][86]

In February 2016, it was reported that Istvan was likely to vote Democrat, placing himself "somewhere between Bernie and Hillary in terms of political ideologies",[83] but later in 2016 he also wrote articles supporting Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson.[87][88] On October 15, 2016, Istvan stated on his social media accounts that he would be voting for himself.[89]

As of June 2016, Istvan was not on the ballot in any state, though he claimed substantial potential write-in backers.

so i'm not sure it's fair to drag him like i normally do as if he were an actual LP candidate...he's against the war on drugs though, that's why reason gave him like ten articles and promoted his gubernatorial campaign until they descended into transhumanism wankery

Istvan has a chip implant in his hand and consulted for the U.S. Navy on broad use of the implant in humans.

According to Istvan's novel, the three laws of Transhumanism are:

A transhumanist must safeguard one's own existence above all else.
A transhumanist must strive to achieve omnipotence as expediently as possible—so long as one's actions do not conflict with the First Law.
A transhumanist must safeguard value in the universe—so long as one's actions do not conflict with the First and Second Laws.

[benjipwns]

PFP   
La Riva, Gloria   
6,072   
0.25 %   

Lib
Istvan, Zoltan   
4,973   
0.20 %   

Lib   
Wildstar, Nickolas   
3,939   
0.16 %   

Dem   
Cares, Thomas Jefferson   
3,483   
0.14 %   

THOMAS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO WOW CARES NOW?!?

[benjipwns]

lol at Villaraigosa almost losing to two GOP candidates, i remember when he was being touted by DC Politicos as some hott up and coming shit

also holy crap that John Cox is the John Cox who ran for the GOP nomination in 2008, i just figured it was a common name

https://web.archive.org/web/20061002094022/http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/tabor/060505

First Republican announces presidential run in '08
Nathan Tabor & Jim Kouri
May 5, 2006

In the midst of all the brouhaha over illegal immigration, one Republican tossed his hat into the ring saying he seeks the GOP nomination for president in 2008.

John Cox is the first Republican to announce his candidacy after he was encouraged by the reaction he received in Iowa especially after getting a standing ovation when he outlined how he will solve the illegal-alien debacle.

In April, Cox, a successful businessman from Chicago, appeared and spoke at three district GOP conventions in Iowa where, according to his campaign aides, delegates "leapt to their feet in a very vocal show of support" after opining on the border security issue.

"I was very pleased to see that my fiscally and socially conservative agenda is resonating with the grass-roots voters of Iowa to such a degree," said Cox in a campaign press release posted on his website.

"Everywhere I go, I'm told that my 'outside the Beltway' candidacy offers a refreshing alternative to the career politicians."

Cox, a youthful looking 50-year old, states that he's pledged to speak at all of Iowa's 99 counties in advance of the June 17, 2006, Iowa Republican State Convention. He's said he's halfway there.

Cox's campaign website highlights the images of two other Illinois Republicans — Ronald Reagan, who was born in the state, and Abraham Lincoln, who lived in Illinois before becoming president.

he dropped out before the end of 2006 after polling at like 0% in every poll that did include him iirc

[Kara]

https://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/state-assembly/district/69

  Close call.

[benjipwns]

82.7% ( 105 of 127 ) precincts partially

it's not over yet

[benjipwns]

i always ask people (when i find out) why they vote in races with no opposition candidates and they always say something like "it's important" and i'm like "but...how?" and then they say something about how they're not going to argue with me because i'm just being contrarian

people have no respect for people providing a public service these days

[Kara]

Voting in those races is for dorks or people who stand to financially benefit from the result of the sham election.

[benjipwns]

we had a local board or something or other election a few cycles ago that had four seats up and only three people running, they still got like 70% of the vote totals for governor, with the first person listed getting closer to 75%