US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Joe Molotov]

When you've lost Perez Hilton....

[Himu]

"Your policies will destroy America!"

"He will find no way to implement his policies!"

America is such an embarrassing defeatist nation. It's a pathetic country with a collective shrug.

All this over healthcare while we fund 700 billion (!) into the goddamn military.

I hate America so much.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I thought perez hilton killed himself?

I wonder how many clapbacks the Bernie Campaign has ready for trump. They must itching to release some with all these shin kickers coming at the King.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1230571843238715393

  completely not funny guys 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I guess the test runs proved successful

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/us/pigeons-cowboy-hats-las-vegas.html

[james]

All this over healthcare while we fund 700 billion (!) into the goddamn military.

This is the one area I am disappointed with Sanders in.

He keeps saying things like "if we take 2bn from Bloomberg we can fund y"

Ok, 2bn is nice, but how about taking 200bn from the war budget?

[nachobro]

because campaigning on fucking over the troops is a death sentence. of course in practice it wouldn't be that but the immediate media spin on him saying that would be brutal.

[Nintex]

*Donald Trump runs a country with policy distilled by temp workers from his shitposts in between golf games for 4 years*

*Literally anyone presents a detailed policy plan*
Media: "Did the Nazi's write this?"
Democrats: "None of this will ever work!"
GOP: "How will you pay for this?"
Larry Kudlow (steering the world economy): "What year issss it?"

[Himu]

Smithers, release the pigeons?

[OnlyRegret]

because campaigning on fucking over the troops is a death sentence. of course in practice it wouldn't be that but the immediate media spin on him saying that would be brutal.

ya, it isn't just republicans voting for the big military spending, conditioning to accept the necessity of skyhigh expenditures runs deep

[Himu]

Change America's motto to "can't, no, and impossible for all"

[OnlyRegret]

it's actually much more exhausting to pretend trumpy isn't funny, I tried it  sperging out over it and being angry doesn't help anything anyway

besides that, mini just showed us what an unfunny trump looks like, thus proving trump is funny 

yeah, the presidential shitposts is the silver lining

[james]

because campaigning on fucking over the troops is a death sentence. of course in practice it wouldn't be that but the immediate media spin on him saying that would be brutal.

Please. He's not an idiot, he's Bernie fucking Standards

"I prose taking 200bn from the war budget, that is currently being wasted by petroleum-based contractors, and directing 20% to the pockets of our veterans, and the rest to defend our borders from climate change"

Done and done. 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

All this over healthcare while we fund 700 billion (!) into the goddamn military.

This is the one area I am disappointed with Sanders in.

He keeps saying things like "if we take 2bn from Bloomberg we can fund y"

Ok, 2bn is nice, but how about taking 200bn from the war budget?

Sanders knows that' a dead end, so whenever he does bring up military spending he doesn't frame it as either or. He's like "whynotboth" since he's a true MMT doge.

[Trurl]

Predictit is going all in on Bernie.

I'm a neurotic asshole and now that the primary seems to be going the way I wanted I'm worried that the electability arguments are right.  The only other person that I would be inclined to support is Warren and if polling is anything to go by she's probably an even bigger risk.

Whenever the nominee is decided Trump will tweet that we selected the person he wanted to run against and that we stupidly fell into his trap

[james]

Predictit is going all in on Bernie.

I'm a neurotic asshole and now that the primary seems to be going the way I wanted I'm worried that the electability arguments are right.  The only other person that I would be inclined to support is Warren and if polling is anything to go by she's probably an even bigger risk.

Whenever the nominee is decided Trump will tweet that we selected the person he wanted to run against and that we stupidly fell into his trap

Trump won after 7,854 articles saying he was too extreme and unelectable and the GOP was done for a generation if they didnt pick Rubio/Jeb

[naff]

https://twitter.com/ThePerezHilton/status/1230552970015670275

vocal non support from fuckwits like this in a state that doesn't matter is a win though. i think most people run contrarian to viewpoints they see someone like perez espouse.

[nachobro]

https://twitter.com/ThePerezHilton/status/1230599780851572736

[Tuckers Law]

Jeb

[Trent Dole]

https://twitter.com/MakotoGoinNuts/status/1230328737977290753

[team filler]

looking over my ballot and I see orb mommy marianne on here, but not kopmala! 

https://twitter.com/jamie_agust/status/1230611530028322816


 

[thisismyusername]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoreTankieChapo/comments/f65naw/uncontrollable_vomiting/

"Agolf Twittler"

Four years of ResistanceTM and this is all they have to show for it?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

"Not afraid to go head to head with trump" ?

Is anyone afraid of doing that ? I mean except biden.

[kingv]

I believe he is talking about docking, which is stupid because Bloomberg is circumcised.

[TVC15]

I believe he is talking about docking, which is stupid because Bloomberg is circumcised.

That’s so offensive. Haven’t you heard of the foreskin restoration movement?

http://www.norm.org/

Some day all you old boomers will die out.

Bloomberg ‘20

[Tuckers Law]

I believe he is talking about docking, which is stupid because Bloomberg is circumcised.

 

[kingv]

It’s an act of love.

[Himu]

Which candidate can give the best head though?

[TVC15]

Which candidate can give the best head though?

Hmmm, Tom or Amy.

[recursivelyenumerable]

https://twitter.com/ALotOfOranges/status/1230239123862097920
https://twitter.com/ALotOfOranges/status/1230297462444871681

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/davecclarke/status/1230656625649819653

Secret boss type shit.

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Harry Reid says Sanders needs more than plurality to win Democratic nomination
“I think that we have to let the system work its way out,” former senator Harry M. Reid said Feb. 19 in Las Vegas. (John Locher/AP)
“I think that we have to let the system work its way out,” former senator Harry M. Reid said Feb. 19 in Las Vegas. (John Locher/AP)
By
Paul Kane
Feb. 20, 2020 at 5:25 p.m. PST
LAS VEGAS — Former Senate majority leader Harry M. Reid said Thursday that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) or any presidential candidate should not get the Democratic nomination if they end the primary process in first place but are shy of the requisite majority of delegates.

Reid (D-Nev.) dismissed suggestions from Sanders and his supporters that he should become the nominee if he finishes with a plurality lead ahead of the rest of the candidates but short of the 1,991 delegates needed to secure the nomination outright. Reid even suggested that a group of moderate candidates, trailing Sanders overall, could assemble a coalition ahead of the Democratic convention in July in Milwaukee to hand the nomination to someone else.

“Here is how I feel about this: I do not think that anybody — Bernie Sanders or anyone else — should simply get the nomination because they have 30 percent of the delegates and no one else has that many,” Reid said in an interview in his office at the Bellagio, where he has a post with the MGM Resorts Public Policy Institute. “Let’s say that he has 35 percent. Well, 65 percent he doesn’t have, or that person doesn’t have. I think that we have to let the system work its way out. I do not believe anyone should get the nomination unless they have 50-[percent]-plus-one.”

Some political statisticians have suggested in recent days that with the more moderate lane clogged with at least four candidates, Sanders would continue to collect the most delegates through the March 3 Super Tuesday primaries and emerge in such a strong position that no one would be able catch him.

[Mandark]

Is everyone going to pretend to have a deeply-held, principled position on this plurality scenario?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Which candidate can give the best head though?

Definitely not pete, dude looks selfish af

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1230666283756249088
 

[Tripon]

It would be exhausting to keep pretending Trump is funny for this long.

It's like when LaVar Ball was all over ESPN, but if it kept up for five years straight.

https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1230654236934864896

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1230666283756249088
 

A socialist with three homes! It's almost like Bernie still supports markets and competition but done in a fair manner! You mean capitalism won't go away if we care for each other?! Fuck this backwards country.

[Himu]

Conservatives: Europe isn't socialist, it's capitalist!

Also conservatives: Bernie owns three homes! What kind of socialist is he?!

Burn America to the ground and make a new, second American Republic.

[Transhuman]

They know their audience, what else is there to say.

[Himu]

That America is a bad, vile country.

[Trurl]

Is everyone going to pretend to have a deeply-held, principled position on this plurality scenario?

Perhaps.  But Sanders getting the plurality and losing the nomination would fracture the party.  That's not a principled argument, it's just a statement of what would happen.

Truthfully there's a part of me that would find a brokered convention exciting especially if something crazy like AL Gore getting nominated happens, but the results would be disastrous.

Thinking about this I can see why some people hate the Sanders people since any other camp would likely be way less likely to lose their shit if their candidate won a 30% plurality and then lost the nomination, but it is what it is.  If people want to defeat Sanders they should focus on getting someone else to win the plurality.  If you want a Democrat to win in November but not have it be Sanders this brokered convention thing is a false hope.  It's like the people imagining colonizing mars as a response to feeling that the earth is doomed

[Himu]

Let's say this happens and it does fracture the party.

What will the name of AOC and Bernie's new party be called? I'd personally go the American Party to reflect the People. The animal logo can be a bald eagle.

Yes, I've had this thought in my head for a while.

[Mandark]

Let's say this happens and it does fracture the party.

What will the name of AOC and Bernie's new party be called? I'd personally go the American Party to reflect the People. The animal logo can be a bald eagle.

Yes, I've had this thought in my head for a while.

You just invented a rightwing party that backed George Wallace. Congrats!

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1230666283756249088
 

A socialist with three homes! It's almost like Bernie still supports markets and competition but done in a fair manner! You mean capitalism won't go away if we care for each other?! Fuck this backwards country.

I like that Bernie didn't bother debasing himself when bloomberg said something to that effect.

like wtf

[Himu]

Let's say this happens and it does fracture the party.

What will the name of AOC and Bernie's new party be called? I'd personally go the American Party to reflect the People. The animal logo can be a bald eagle.

Yes, I've had this thought in my head for a while.

You just invented a rightwing party that backed George Wallace. Congrats!

Nooo.

[benjipwns]

Can we instead focus on this important information:

Secret boss type shit.

“Here is how I feel about this: I do not think that anybody — Bernie Sanders or anyone else — should simply get the nomination because they have 30 percent of the delegates and no one else has that many,” Reid said in an interview in his office at the Bellagio, where he has a post with the MGM Resorts Public Policy Institute. “Let’s say that he has 35 percent. Well, 65 percent he doesn’t have, or that person doesn’t have. I think that we have to let the system work its way out. I do not believe anyone should get the nomination unless they have 50-[percent]-plus-one.”

[Himu]

The color for the American Party would have been gold.

[benjipwns]

Let's say this happens and it does fracture the party.

What will the name of AOC and Bernie's new party be called? I'd personally go the American Party to reflect the People. The animal logo can be a bald eagle.

Yes, I've had this thought in my head for a while.

You just invented a rightwing party that backed George Wallace. Congrats!

Nooo.

Don't worry, you can ignore Mandark's cowardly and limited 20th Century history, because it was also the banner that the nativist, anti-Catholic, white supremacist Know Nothing movement ran under in the mid-1800s.

[Mandark]

Is everyone going to pretend to have a deeply-held, principled position on this plurality scenario?

Perhaps.  But Sanders getting the plurality and losing the nomination would fracture the party.  That's not a principled argument, it's just a statement of what would happen.

Oh sure.

I'm just looking forward to The Discourse where everyone pretends they have really strong opinions on process that coincidentally lead to the result they want.

It'll be especially funny cause Bernie's campaign people are already on record as saying a convention shouldn't have to defer to a majority winner, much less a plurality one.

[Himu]

Let's say this happens and it does fracture the party.

What will the name of AOC and Bernie's new party be called? I'd personally go the American Party to reflect the People. The animal logo can be a bald eagle.

Yes, I've had this thought in my head for a while.

Interesting idea. A struggle for Social-Democracy  across the political, economic and philosophical realms embodied in a political party... you would probably need political education through media in there.... most people are too busy working except for intellectuals I guess... I think you've got something here!

I've got the ads in my head already.

Struggling single mother: I'm American.

Black woman: I'm American

Former Trumpist: I'm American.

Latino man: I'm American.

Muslim woman with hijab: I'm American.

Factory worker: I'm American.

Asian man: I'm American.

Then it shows the top party leaders: we're all American.

Narrator: "Support the only party fighting for all Americans."

Fade out.

[benjipwns]

 

[Mandark]

Cindi: "Okay, that first name was a bust. What we need is something promoting socialism, but in a way that shows that it's not some scary foreign thing. You know, a national socialism..."

*Esch frantically making cut-it-out gesture*

[Himu]

It is what it is! You had better have the party emblem on your lapel, Mandark.

[Tripon]

Bring back the Whig party.

[Mandark]

It is what it is! You had better have the party emblem on your lapel, Mandark.

"It's a centuries-old symbol found in Hinduism and many other cultures!"

[Himu]

It is what it is! You had better have the party emblem on your lapel, Mandark.

"It's a centuries-old symbol found in Hinduism and many other cultures!"

Nooooo

[benjipwns]

Bring back the Whig party.

More like the True Whigs:

[Himu]

It is what it is! You had better have the party emblem on your lapel, Mandark.

Armbands too? We might need to include symbols of our peoples shared struggle as well.... perhaps a tree represent the great virgin wilds of America... for Americans....

They can be redwoods.

Oh, but also need our own march.

[Mandark]

[Himu]

Someone help me figure out the march for the American Party

[EightBitNate]

Is anyone interested in astroturfing for Bloomberg? $2500 a month is insane.