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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50161 on: February 20, 2020, 10:31:40 PM »
Someone help me figure out the march for the American Party

I would, but I’m busy struggling to work some of your anime principles into socialism for your manifesto. Do you think maybe people should be allowed to occasionally raise their institutional power levels in attempts to crush their rivals?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50162 on: February 20, 2020, 10:31:50 PM »
Is anyone interested in astroturfing for Bloomberg? $2500 a month is insane.

Is it legal to take him up on his offer and then vote Sanders
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50163 on: February 20, 2020, 10:32:23 PM »
Let's say this happens and it does fracture the party.

What will the name of AOC and Bernie's new party be called? I'd personally go the American Party to reflect the People. The animal logo can be a bald eagle.

Yes, I've had this thought in my head for a while.
How about The Democracy?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50164 on: February 20, 2020, 10:37:21 PM »
I have decided the march will be the moonwalk. What's more American than Michael Jackson?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50165 on: February 20, 2020, 10:46:15 PM »
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483858-buttigieg-calls-on-bloomberg-to-drop-out-after-debate
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Former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg's presidential campaign called on former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg to drop out of the Democratic presidential primary race in a memo released on Thursday, warning that Bloomberg's presence in the race would propel Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) to the Democratic nomination.

"If Bloomberg remains in the race despite showing he can not offer a viable alternative to Bernie Sanders, he will propel Sanders to a seemingly insurmountable delegate lead siphoning votes away from Pete, the current leader in delegates," Buttigieg's campaign wrote.

The campaign projected that if the dynamics of the primary do not change, Sanders would emerge from Super Tuesday as almost unbeatable, adding that Buttigieg was the strongest alternative to the progressive senator.

Buttigieg's campaign pointed specifically to what critics called a shaky debate performance from Bloomberg.

"Bloomberg had the worst debate performance in presidential debate history and he showed he can’t handle Sanders, let alone Donald Trump," the campaign wrote.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50166 on: February 20, 2020, 10:50:14 PM »
How can Pete take down Donald Trump then? Overly purple language?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50167 on: February 20, 2020, 10:52:24 PM »
Can we instead focus on this important information:
Secret boss type shit.

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“Here is how I feel about this: I do not think that anybody — Bernie Sanders or anyone else — should simply get the nomination because they have 30 percent of the delegates and no one else has that many,” Reid said in an interview in his office at the Bellagio, where he has a post with the MGM Resorts Public Policy Institute. “Let’s say that he has 35 percent. Well, 65 percent he doesn’t have, or that person doesn’t have. I think that we have to let the system work its way out. I do not believe anyone should get the nomination unless they have 50-[percent]-plus-one.”

Nobody has more than 51? Fuck it, everybody drop out!

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50168 on: February 20, 2020, 10:53:14 PM »
I have decided the march will be the moonwalk. What's more American than Michael Jackson?

Will the guards stationed outside the White House be in a perpetual MJ lean?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50170 on: February 20, 2020, 10:56:23 PM »
a little lighter dobbs content for tonight :)


https://video.foxnews.com/v/6134458161001#sp=show-clips

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50171 on: February 20, 2020, 10:56:52 PM »
If you went with National Cindiism, you’d have the NaCi Party, which I like because I think it sounds like one of those nonsense words made up for Final Fantasy XIII. It’s on-message and very clear.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50173 on: February 20, 2020, 11:00:57 PM »
i like a whopper with cheese but everything else at bk sucks

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50174 on: February 20, 2020, 11:01:43 PM »
If you went with National Cindiism, you’d have the NaCi Party, which I like because I think it sounds like one of those nonsense words made up for Final Fantasy XIII. It’s on-message and very clear.

I hate that game and want to kill you rn
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50175 on: February 20, 2020, 11:03:40 PM »
Let's say this happens and it does fracture the party.

What will the name of AOC and Bernie's new party be called? I'd personally go the American Party to reflect the People. The animal logo can be a bald eagle.

Yes, I've had this thought in my head for a while.

Interesting idea. A struggle for Social-Democracy  across the political, economic and philosophical realms embodied in a political party... you would probably need political education through media in there.... most people are too busy working except for intellectuals I guess... I think you've got something here!

I've got the ads in my head already.

Struggling single mother: I'm American.

Black woman: I'm American

Former Trumpist: I'm American.

Latino man: I'm American.

Muslim woman with hijab: I'm American.

Factory worker: I'm American.

Asian man: I'm American.

Then it shows the top party leaders: we're all American.

Narrator: "Support the only party fighting for all Americans."

Fade out.

I support this :salute

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50176 on: February 20, 2020, 11:05:00 PM »
Please vote American.

:usa
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50177 on: February 20, 2020, 11:05:30 PM »
If you went with National Cindiism, you’d have the NaCi Party, which I like because I think it sounds like one of those nonsense words made up for Final Fantasy XIII. It’s on-message and very clear.

I hate that game and want to kill you rn

I’ll have you won back over when you see I’ve had the military’s uniforms redesigned in the style of budget Korean MMOs.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50178 on: February 20, 2020, 11:06:34 PM »
If you went with National Cindiism, you’d have the NaCi Party, which I like because I think it sounds like one of those nonsense words made up for Final Fantasy XIII. It’s on-message and very clear.

I hate that game and want to kill you rn

I’ll have you won back over when you see I’ve had the military’s uniforms redesigned in the style of budget Korean MMOs.

The colors of the military uniforms will be black and gold.

Designed by Tetsuya Nomura.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50179 on: February 20, 2020, 11:08:55 PM »
We can potentially use anime for messaging, like Aum Shinrikyo.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50180 on: February 20, 2020, 11:08:57 PM »
Greg is obsessed with whether or not the tables on the sets at Fox move

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50181 on: February 20, 2020, 11:11:42 PM »
Let's say this happens and it does fracture the party.

What will the name of AOC and Bernie's new party be called? I'd personally go the American Party to reflect the People. The animal logo can be a bald eagle.

Yes, I've had this thought in my head for a while.

Interesting idea. A struggle for Social-Democracy  across the political, economic and philosophical realms embodied in a political party... you would probably need political education through media in there.... most people are too busy working except for intellectuals I guess... I think you've got something here!

I've got the ads in my head already.

Struggling single mother: I'm American.

Black woman: I'm American

Former Trumpist: I'm American.

Latino man: I'm American.

Muslim woman with hijab: I'm American.

Factory worker: I'm American.

Asian man: I'm American.

Then it shows the top party leaders: we're all American.

Narrator: "Support the only party fighting for all Americans."

Fade out.



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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50182 on: February 20, 2020, 11:19:29 PM »
i like a whopper with cheese but everything else at bk sucks

Double Cheesburger is good in a pinch and Cheesy Tots when available.

All three are pretty shit but McDonalds is the best of the three, fresh beef Quarter Pounder and the best fries of the three by far. Wendy's was good when they had the large wedge fries and burger's that did not taste like ass. There is Culvers and Whataburger and then there is everything else.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50183 on: February 20, 2020, 11:21:45 PM »
Wendy’s is edible to me. The shit at McDonald’s and bk is nasty. It doesn’t even register as meat in my mouth. It’s like my taste buds can’t quite figure out what it is.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50184 on: February 20, 2020, 11:41:37 PM »
If you went with National Cindiism, you’d have the NaCi Party, which I like because I think it sounds like one of those nonsense words made up for Final Fantasy XIII. It’s on-message and very clear.

I hate that game and want to kill you rn

I’ll have you won back over when you see I’ve had the military’s uniforms redesigned in the style of budget Korean MMOs.

The colors of the military uniforms will be black and gold.

Designed by Tetsuya Nomura.
try silver and black  :jawalrus
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50185 on: February 20, 2020, 11:49:55 PM »
It’s kind of humorous, because the Democratic Party created this themselves by just demonizing Sanders for 4 years and then just completely fucking up the Iowa caucuses to the point where it just looked shady as fuck (even though it’s probably just garden variety incompetence).

But the fact that they spent 4 years just further alienating Sanders and his supporters instead of figuring out how to embrace them is just mind-boggling.

Hillary Clinton, the candidate so bad she managed to fuck up the election after the one she ran in.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50186 on: February 20, 2020, 11:53:38 PM »
It’s kind of humorous, because the Democratic Party created this themselves by just demonizing Sanders for 4 years and then just completely fucking up the Iowa caucuses to the point where it just looked shady as fuck (even though it’s probably just garden variety incompetence).

But the fact that they spent 4 years just further alienating Sanders and his supporters instead of figuring out how to embrace them is just mind-boggling.

Hillary Clinton, the candidate so bad she managed to fuck up the election after the one she ran in.

And her trying to spike Bernie this election, that’s just evil.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50187 on: February 20, 2020, 11:57:33 PM »
It’s kind of humorous, because the Democratic Party created this themselves by just demonizing Sanders for 4 years and then just completely fucking up the Iowa caucuses to the point where it just looked shady as fuck (even though it’s probably just garden variety incompetence).

But the fact that they spent 4 years just further alienating Sanders and his supporters instead of figuring out how to embrace them is just mind-boggling.

Hillary Clinton, the candidate so bad she managed to fuck up the election after the one she ran in.

And her trying to spike Bernie this election, that’s just evil.

After he dressed up in drag and pretended to be her while she was on her deathbed too:
https://twitter.com/preciousbfluids/status/1230184474513592320

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50188 on: February 20, 2020, 11:57:51 PM »
It’s kind of humorous, because the Democratic Party created this themselves by just demonizing Sanders for 4 years and then just completely fucking up the Iowa caucuses to the point where it just looked shady as fuck (even though it’s probably just garden variety incompetence).

But the fact that they spent 4 years just further alienating Sanders and his supporters instead of figuring out how to embrace them is just mind-boggling.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50189 on: February 21, 2020, 12:06:01 AM »
they've been blaming sanders supporters for the loss along with russians, assange, sexism, the blacks, hanging chads, mercury in retorgrade...
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50191 on: February 21, 2020, 12:54:19 AM »
If you went with National Cindiism, you’d have the NaCi Party, which I like because I think it sounds like one of those nonsense words made up for Final Fantasy XIII. It’s on-message and very clear.

I hate that game and want to kill you rn

I’ll have you won back over when you see I’ve had the military’s uniforms redesigned in the style of budget Korean MMOs.

The colors of the military uniforms will be black and gold.

Designed by Tetsuya Nomura.

achieve the reluctant social fascism kara forewarned

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50192 on: February 21, 2020, 12:55:35 AM »
kara is raider nation, black and gold will never work  :pimp
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50193 on: February 21, 2020, 04:34:16 AM »
This rally was 20/10 on the bonkers scale

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1230665487626969088


You can also tell Hicks is back because he brought printed out online polls with him  :lol
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50194 on: February 21, 2020, 04:41:19 AM »
                   Is this b e a s t m o d e?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50195 on: February 21, 2020, 07:57:30 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/21/opinion/richard-grenell-trump.html
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Will Richard Grenell Destroy the Intelligence Community?

President Trump selected an unqualified loyalist as his top spy. We know what happens next.

A crazy optimist might have hoped that the impeachment trial, gutted though it was by Senate Republicans, would chasten rather than embolden President Trump, prompting a new judiciousness in his execution of his duties. Forget about that. His naming of Richard Grenell, the ambassador to Germany, as acting director of national intelligence has completely dashed any such hopes.

Mr. Grenell has no experience as an intelligence officer at any level, nor has he overseen a large government bureaucracy.
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Only the best people.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50196 on: February 21, 2020, 08:01:18 AM »
Not to defend Grenell personally, but have you seen the record of intelligence community people heading their own agencies?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50197 on: February 21, 2020, 08:45:02 AM »
I wouldn't be suprised if grenell like hunter actually has greats amounts of spy and intelligence experience.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50198 on: February 21, 2020, 08:53:33 AM »
This rally was 20/10 on the bonkers scale

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1230665487626969088


You can also tell Hicks is back because he brought printed out online polls with him  :lol

Jesus I hate this country. The more I age, the more I think I spent years overestimating the average adult’s potential for brains. I really just don’t think humans are as smart as scientists and educators believe they are.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50199 on: February 21, 2020, 09:04:01 AM »
they've been blaming sanders supporters for the loss along with russians, assange, sexism, the blacks, hanging chads, mercury in retorgrade...

Fucking newsfeed this entire post. :dead

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50200 on: February 21, 2020, 09:16:54 AM »
Cindi: "Okay, that first name was a bust. What we need is something promoting socialism, but in a way that shows that it's not some scary foreign thing. You know, a national socialism..."

*Esch frantically making cut-it-out gesture*

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50201 on: February 21, 2020, 09:18:41 AM »
A brokered convention would be a disaster for the DNC and probably completely shatter it for good. It's already so splintered, that would be the last straw and Democrats would probably not win a national election for decades.
What are Democratic voters going to do, vote for Republicans?

A brokered convention only hurts when the losers abandon the party. 1972 and 1964 being the most recent obvious examples, but also, to an extent 1984. (And the parties recovered massively within two years in all three cases.)

Brokered conventions were the norm for decades and that was when the parties were (at least pretending to be) relative clones of each other.

1964 is an interesting comparison, Goldwater had a first ballot plurality going into the convention and he was almost guaranteed to win a majority from the favorite sons, they still tried to deny him the nomination at the convention. It couldn't be done. So the left-wing of the Republican Party just fucked off and let him get destroyed. Eight years later, there was nearly a similar situation in 1972 at the Democratic convention, McGovern had a plurality and nobody could come close so they tried introducing new candidates at the convention. In 1980 and 1984, many Democrats were hoping Carter and Mondale could be first ballot blocked and open up things to a second ballot that ignored the primary candidates. Robert C. Byrd was trying to position himself in 1980 to be the compromise choice between the Carter and Kennedy camps until Carter beat Kennedy in the primaries. 1984 is what caused the superdelegates as Mondale entered with a plurality with a likely majority, although Hart/Jackson had nowhere near enough to deny him totally they could have potentially deadlocked the convention on the first ballot so Mondale's team spent most of the convention trying to lock down a first ballot majority.

The fear isn't that Bernie voters do what they didn't in 2016 and stay home, it's that they do what they did in 2016 and try to start taking over the party. And this time will have even more allies, especially if the party were to go with Bloomberg/Buttigieg.

If Trump wins, we're going to have a billion candidates in 2024, and it'll be the start of a re-alignment of both parties. It's not just the Democrats, the GOP has to figure out if Trumpism will continue past Trump himself. For every Republican who has spent the last 40 years claiming Reagan's mantle, that's come with tons of infighting over whether or not they deserve it. Yet none of them had Reagan's ability to reach outside the party to protect his flanks. Trump has a similar, but not as powerful, makeup of his base. A lot of Republicans hope once Trump passes they can go back to how it was. Same as Democrats hoping they can just wait out Bernie. Except it's never really been Trump and Bernie specifically as much as how they fit right into existing fissures in the parties. Trump most notably on immigration, trade, blue collar workers, the large anti-war base he's intellectually tied to, etc. Bernie touches a lot of similar issues in the Democratic Party where a large part of the base is not happy with the elites positions. I'm not sure there's anything so stark as immigration was for Trump to where Trump could spend a couple months being the only GOP candidate to actually run on the party base's majority position of anti-immigration as everyone else demurred then hastily tried to fake it. Remember "self-deportation" and other stupid straddling? But there's similar stuff, the Medicare For All waffling and defenses of private health insurance as the glory of humanity are pretty silly. The positions on Obamacare at times are hilarious. It was a compromise of a compromise at the time but you'd think it was now Social Security after 70 years or something.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50202 on: February 21, 2020, 09:24:55 AM »
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Trump considering Doug Collins as nominee for director of national intelligence
He's just going to burn them out and have to step down in a couple years.

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« Reply #50203 on: February 21, 2020, 09:29:00 AM »
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The next biggest-spending campaign, Warren’s, spent nearly all of its available cash in January, shelling out $22 million and entering February with only $2.3 million cash on hand. The Warren campaign has a particularly large staff of more than 1,200 people, which cost $8.6 million in salary and payroll taxes in January alone.

Warren has also had to shuffle her television ad reservations in South Carolina and Nevada, cutting overall ad spending. Warren’s campaign was in such financial need that it took out a $400,000 loan in January, disclosures show.

But her campaign is now taking outside help that could offer it a lifeline: On Wednesday, a new super PAC, Persist PAC, began reserving seven figures worth of TV ads, boosting Warren’s campaign with an ad highlighting her experience at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
Are they developing an Ubisoft game or what?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50204 on: February 21, 2020, 09:44:44 AM »
Here's Hunter S. Thompson's "reporting" on the 1972 Democratic Primaries and Convention: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fear-loathing-in-miami-old-bulls-meet-the-butcher-38977/
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I had been there before, back in February, sipping a midday beer with John Lindsay while we waited for the flight to L.A. He had addressed the Florida state legislature in Tallahassee that morning; the Florida primary was still two weeks away, Muskie was still the front-runner, McGovern was campaigning desperately up in New Hampshire and Lindsay’s managers felt he was doing well enough in Florida that he could afford to take a few days off and zip out to California. They had already circled June 6th on the Mayor’s campaign calendar. It was obvious, even then, that the California primary was going to be The Big One: Winner-take-all for 271 delegate votes, more than any other state, and the winner in California would almost certainly be the Democratic candidate for President of the United States in 1972.

Nobody argued that. The big problem in February was knowing which two of the 12 candidates would survive until then. If California was going to be the showdown, it was also three months and 23 primaries away – a long and grueling struggle before the field would narrow down to only two.

Ed Muskie, of course, would be one of them. In late February – and even in early March – he was such an overwhelming favorite that every press wizard in Washington had already conceded him the nomination. At that point in the campaign, the smart-money scenario had Big Ed winning comfortably in New Hampshire, finishing a strong second to Wallace a week later in Florida, then nailing it in Wisconsin on April 4th.

New Hampshire would finish McGovern, they said, and Hubert’s ill-advised Comeback would die on the vine in Florida. Jackson and Chisholm were fools, McCarthy and Wilbur Mills were doomed tokens…and that left only Lindsay, a maverick Republican who had only recently switched parties. But he had already caused a mild shock wave on the Democratic side by beating McGovern badly – and holding Muskie to a stand-off – with an 11th hour, “Kennedy-style” campaign in non-primary Arizona, the first state to elect delegates.

Lindsay’s lieutenants saw that success in Arizona as the first spark for what would soon be a firestorm. Their blueprint had Lindsay compounding his momentum by finishing a strong third or even second in Florida, then polarizing the party by almost beating Muskie in Wisconsin – which would set the stage for an early Right/Left showdown in Massachusetts, a crucial primary state with 102 delegates and a traditionally liberal electorate.

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The key to that strategy was the idea that Muskie could not hold the Center, because he was basically a candidate of the Democratic Right, like Scoop Jackson, and that he would move instinctively in that direction at the first sign of challenge from his Left – which would force him into a position so close to Nixon’s that eventually not even the Democratic “centrists” would tolerate him.

There was high ground to be seized on The Left, Lindsay felt, and whoever seized it would fall heir to that far-flung, leaderless army of Kennedy/McCarthy zealots from 1968…along with 25 million new voters who would naturally go 3-1 against Nixon – unless the Democratic candidate turned out to be Hubert Humphrey or a Moray Eel – which meant that almost anybody who could strike sparks with the “new voters” would be working off a huge and potentially explosive new power base that was worth – on paper, at least – anywhere between five percent and 15 percent of the total vote. It was a built-in secret weapon for any charismatic Left-bent underdog who could make the November election even reasonably close.
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As it turned out, the Lindsay campaign was fatally flawed from the start. It was all tip and no iceberg – the exact opposite of the slow-building McGovern juggernaut – but back in February it was still considered very shrewd and avant-garde to assume that the most important factor in a presidential campaign was a good “media candidate.” If he had star quality, the rest would take care of itself.

The Florida primary turned out to be a funeral procession for would-be “media candidates.” Both Lindsay and Muskie went down in Florida – although not necessarily because they geared their pitch to TV; the real reason, I think, is that neither one of them understood how to use TV…or maybe they knew, but just couldn’t pull it off. It is hard to be super-convincing on the tube, if everything you say reminds the TV audience of a Dick Cavett commercial for Alpo dog food. George McGovern has been widely ridiculed in the press as “The ideal anti-media candidate.” He looks wrong, talks wrong, and even acts wrong – by conventional TV standards. But McGovern has his own ideas about how to use the tube.
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One of the crucial moments of the ’72 primary campaign came on election night in Florida, March 14th, when McGovern – who had finished a dismal sixth, behind even Lindsay and Muskie – refused to follow their sour example and blame his poor showing on that Evil Racist Monster, George Wallace, who had just swept every county in the state. Moments after both Lindsay and Muskie had appeared on all three networks to denounce the Florida results as tragic proof that at least half the voters were ignorant dupes and nazis, McGovern came on and said that although he couldn’t agree with some of the things Wallace said and stood for, he sympathized with the people who’d voted for “The Governor” because they were “angry and fed up” with some of the things that are happening in this country.

“I feel the same way,” he added. “But unlike Governor Wallace, I’ve proposed constructive solutions to these problems.”
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The only real question in Miami was whether or not McGovern might be stripped of more than half of the 271 delegates he won in the California primary – and that question was scheduled to come up for a vote by the whole convention on Monday night. If the “ABM Movement” could strip 151 of those delegates away, McGovern might be stopped – because without them he had anywhere from 10 to 50 votes less than the 1509 that would give him the nomination on the first ballot. But if McGovern could hold his 271 California delegates, it was all over.

The “ABM Movement” (Anybody but McGovern) was a coalition of desperate losers, thrown together at the last moment by Big Labor chief George Meany and his axe-man, Al Barkan. Hubert Humphrey was pressed into service as the front man for ABM, and he quickly signed up the others: Big Ed, Scoop Jackson, Terry Sanford, Shirley Chisholm – all the heavies.

The ABM movement came together, officially, sometime in the middle of the week just before the convention, when it finally became apparent that massive fraud, treachery or violence was the only way to prevent McGovern from getting the nomination….
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The ABM strategy – a very shrewd plan, on paper – was to hold McGovern under the 1500 mark for two ballots, forcing him to peak without winning, then confront the convention with an alternative (ABM) candidate on the third ballot – and if that failed, try another ABM candidate on the fourth ballot, then yet another on the fifth, etc…. on into infinity, for as many ballots as it would take to nominate somebody acceptable to the Meany-Daley axis.

The name didn’t matter. It didn’t even make much difference if He, She or It couldn’t possibly beat Nixon in November…the only thing that mattered, to the Meany-Daley crowd, was keeping control of The Party; and this meant the nominee would have to be some loyal whore with more debts to Big Labor than he could ever hope to pay…somebody like Hubert Humphrey, or a hungry opportunist like Terry Sanford.

Anybody but George McGovern – the only candidate in Miami, that week, who would be under no obligation to give either Meany or Daley his private number if he ever moved into the White House.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50205 on: February 21, 2020, 09:51:28 AM »
All I'm seeing here is DNC rigging is a tale as old as time.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50206 on: February 21, 2020, 10:15:40 AM »
Look, to be fair to the DNC (and RNC) they are private parties. They don't have to let anyone into their decision making process. The United States just has a massive history of huge suffrage (especially for white males) that we take for granted compared to everywhere else that our parties were brow-beaten into letting everyone vote in their internal decision making processes. Multiple times until McGovern basically blew the whole thing wide open. And was a continuing thing for a hundred years until Bernie basically killed off the caucus after 2016. (Iowa remains a caucus because it lets it go before NH. Nevada does because it lets them hold them inside casinos.)

And this is something that other countries are now copying. Countries where parties have long been more powerful than ours are now having primaries that aren't even closed, but totally open to anyone who wants to vote. Corbyn built some of his victory on this, France recently started toying with it, Costa Rica has done it for sometime becoming more open with each cycle, etc.

The real problem here is that the parties in the United States turned their conventions into coronations and everyone forgot that they're supposed to be the last point in the decision making process. That nobody cares if the final vote isn't unanimous. Getting pissed at Ron Paul in 2012 and Bernie in 2016 (and non-Trumpers at the RNC) for wanting their delegates counted was because everybody became used to it simply being a taxpayer funded celebration rather than a gathering of elected delegates to decide the nominee it used to be.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50207 on: February 21, 2020, 10:26:29 AM »

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50208 on: February 21, 2020, 10:39:04 AM »
Even the way he holds his hands are fake as fuck.

"Look at this fucking fraud to my left! Look at him!"

"You gotta believe me Amy, I admire you, but why do you think you should be allowed to stand next to me?"

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50209 on: February 21, 2020, 10:40:47 AM »
will pay in likes for someone to clean up and emoticon my ten second cut-out job
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50210 on: February 21, 2020, 10:41:08 AM »
This rally was 20/10 on the bonkers scale

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1230665487626969088


You can also tell Hicks is back because he brought printed out online polls with him  :lol

That sure is a lot of hicks in the back.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50211 on: February 21, 2020, 10:45:59 AM »
will pay in likes for someone to clean up and emoticon my ten second cut-out job:
(Image removed from quote.)

Sigh. I'll get to work. This is triggering me.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50212 on: February 21, 2020, 10:52:37 AM »
I knew if I left a bunch of the background attached to her finger it would do that. :teehee

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50213 on: February 21, 2020, 10:54:23 AM »


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"I used to teach contract law," the Massachusetts Democrat said at a CNN town hall in Nevada. "And I thought I would make this easy. I wrote up a release and covenant not to sue, and all that Mayor Bloomberg has to do is download it -- I'll text it -- sign it, and then the women, or men, will be free to speak and tell their own stories."



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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50214 on: February 21, 2020, 11:02:05 AM »
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The campaigns for Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg each requested full recounts of 63 Iowa caucus precincts, according to the Iowa Democratic Party.

Sanders, a U.S. Senator for Vermont, requested a recount for 10 precincts; Buttigieg, former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, asked for a recount of of 54 precincts. One precinct was duplicated.

The party will respond to the requests within 48 hours of receiving the recount requests. Party officials will give an estimated time to complete the recount if the requests are deemed valid.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50215 on: February 21, 2020, 11:05:43 AM »
Delete your monstronsity NOW, Benji.

NEVER DO THAT EVER AGAIN.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50216 on: February 21, 2020, 11:06:49 AM »
test

 :klob

Here.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hello Shithead.
« Reply #50219 on: February 21, 2020, 11:14:49 AM »
:ufup