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[benjipwns]

No, Not Sanders, Not Ever

How do I send that op-ed back in time to "David Brooks, Social Democrat"?

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/kendrick38/status/1233214590588248069


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[Tripon]

Some Clinton aides not sure they can back Sanders
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Some of Hillary Clinton’s closest aides and allies say they’re unsure if they could support Bernie Sanders if he becomes the Democratic nominee.

Nearly four years after Clinton defeated Sanders in the bitter 2016 primary race, the animosity remains deep for many Clinton allies.

They still blame Sanders for not campaigning wholeheartedly for the Democratic nominee, arguing that this contributed to her loss to President Trump.

“I think a lot of people would have a huge problem checking that box for him,” said one Clinton aide who remains undecided about whom to support during this presidential cycle. “I for one, am one of them. Bernie Sanders is part of the reason we have Donald Trump.”

Sanders is the clear front-runner for the Democratic nomination after a convincing win Saturday in Nevada’s caucuses. With a number of candidates effectively dividing the anti-Sanders vote, it seems entirely possible he could roll to a victory in the months ahead.

To be sure, some Clinton supporters are saying they could back Sanders if he is the party’s nominee.

“Democrats are going to unite behind whomever is the nominee in order to defeat Donald Trump,” said Adam Parkhomenko, who co-founded the super PAC Ready for Hillary and also served as an aide on Clinton’s 2016 campaign.

Zac Petkanas, who ran Clinton’s rapid response for her 2016 campaign, said Sanders would have his full support if he won the nomination.

“Not only would I vote for Bernie Sanders if he’s the nominee, I’d work my ass off to help his campaign defeat Trump any way I could,” Petkanas said. “Anyone tweeting #NeverBernie for the general election is actually tweeting #AlwaysKidsInCages.”

“The No. 1, 2 and 3 goals must be to defeat Donald Trump no matter who emerges from the convention in Milwaukee.”

But at least right now, Sanders is still causing some consternation for Clinton supporters.           

Democratic strategist Michael Trujillo, who worked on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign and supported her in 2016, said he knows of just one Clinton backer who has gotten behind Sanders to date.

“But he is on a lonely island right now,” said Trujillo. “Bernie’s arrogance in 2016 where it was ‘him, not us’ will not ever be forgotten, understood or forgiven.”

Pressed on what would happen if Sanders did win the nomination, Trujillo replied: “Considering he honeymooned in Russia, likely lots of shots of vodka for us to come around.”   

Sanders and his supporters have rejected the arguments from Clinton supporters that Sanders did not work hard for her victory in the 2016 election against Trump. This has further stoked divisions between the two sides.

Clinton has made it clear she’s not a Bernie fan.

She’s blasted Sanders in several waves of comments, all of which could make it more difficult for her supporters and allies to back their old rival.

In a new documentary, Clinton is scathing in her review of Sanders.

“He was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done,” she said. “He was a career politician. It’s all just baloney and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it.”

Asked by The Hollywood Reporter in an interview published in January if she stood by the remarks, Clinton said she did.

Earlier this month, in an appearance on Ellen DeGeneres’s talk show, Clinton faulted Sanders for promising his supporters things she said he will not be able to deliver.

“We need to rebuild trust in our fellow Americans and in our institutions and if you promise the moon and you can’t deliver the moon, then that’s going to be one more indicator of how, you know, we just can’t trust each other,” she said.

But this week, Clinton said she would back whomever won the Democratic nomination.

“I’m going to wait and see who we nominate,” she said in Berlin at a German film festival. “I will support the nominee, and it won’t surprise you to hear me say that I think that it’s imperative that we retire the incumbent.”

Philippe Reines, the longtime senior adviser to Clinton, said Sanders still needs to do more to repair the fracture created by 2016.

While he said there’s still “a lot of time to repair” the damaged relationship, he said Sanders isn’t doing the work to mend fences between the two sides.

“The problem as I see it, to date he — and the people around him — have shown no desire to or recognition they need to,” Reines said. “Most days it seems they’re hellbent on re-litigating 2016 by showing he doesn’t need to broaden his support within the party. But he does. Playing whack-a-mole by adding pockets of previously Trump voters but losing swaths of Democrats is not a winning formula.”

Reines also said it would be in Sanders’s interest to do so given how close the presidential election could be.

“He wants to be president. He needs to convince tens of millions to help him do that,” he said. “It’s in his own self-interest to do so. Yet he doesn’t. It’s inexplicable.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484863-some-clinton-aides-not-sure-they-can-back-sanders

                                             

[benjipwns]

“But he is on a lonely island right now,” said Trujillo. “Bernie’s arrogance in 2016 where it was ‘him, not us’ will not ever be forgotten, understood or forgiven.”

Pressed on what would happen if Sanders did win the nomination, Trujillo replied: “Considering he honeymooned in Russia, likely lots of shots of vodka for us to come around.”   

Exactly what I'd expect to hear from a dictator who's been dead for almost 60 years!

[Himu]

Most days it seems they’re hellbent on re-litigating 2016 by showing he doesn’t need to broaden his support within the party.

Huh?

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/OrganizingPower/status/1233198802393354241

 

[Pissy F Benny]

I thought she changed her name to something really African 

[BIONIC]

https://twitter.com/OrganizingPower/status/1233198802393354241

 

Real recognize real

[james]

10am and dow is down 1000 again

This is it folks. This is what will give Trump his heart attack

[Cauliflower Of Love]

"I resent bernie because he wanted to primary Obama" - Joe Biden in 2020

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1233355730947801088

[Himu]

Let's say Biden takes SC. How damaging will this be to Sanders?

[TakingBackSunday]

Not very?  Biden has been expected to win SC.

[nachobro]

Biden winning in SC is basically a guarantee, the question is by how much? If it's a whopping lead like some polls are showing that will certainly dominate the news cycle. If its something like winning by 10 points it doesn't affect much for Sanders.

Also remember that many tuesday states already have early and mail in voting going on now (and have for a while) so they may not be as affected by the results in SC.

[Himu]

Jfc

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/us/politics/cpac-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

[nachobro]

https://twitter.com/marianne_levine/status/1233414681181773824

cool, thanks tim. no one cares.

[james]

Let's say Biden takes SC. How damaging will this be to Sanders?

Unless he wins by 70 points, zero damage.

But you know pundits will act like Joe is the come back kid

[Great Rumbler]

10am and dow is down 1000 again

This is it folks. This is what will give Trump his heart attack

not stonks

[Trent Dole]

Number go down.

[Great Rumbler]

Numbers go up, numbers go down. You can't explain that.

[Nintex]

Don't worry Larry has this all under control.
https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1233439301125443584

His steady hand will guide the world economy through this storm.

[Nintex]

As the world was in danger from an economic meltdown President Trump would meet with his economic advisors save the world from doom.
While NATO was falling apart because of a rift between Turkey and the EU Mike Pompeo ensured all allies that the pact would hold and the crisis in Syria would be resolved.
And finally the President's chief of staff worked around the clock to coordinate the response to both the deadly virus and the economic fallout.

BUT it was the weekend, Larry was already drunk af and there was both a rally and C-PAC so all that would have to wait until Monday 




https://twitter.com/CPAC/status/1233449220557987840

https://twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson/status/1233433592317063170

[OnlyRegret]

LIFE UNDER A SANDERS REGIME
Tucker prepping Trump's Twitter for the class war.

[OnlyRegret]

The evil Bernard has made his appearance, Battle of the Berns.

https://twitter.com/GarbageApe/status/1233050404172292097

[Joe Molotov]

Why don’t rich old people just go off to a private island to die? Imagine caring who the president is when you’re 94 wtf.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

coronavirus is probably biowarfare targeted at non whites who are otherwise tagged by years of GMO HFCS.

[naff]

LIFE UNDER A SANDERS REGIME
Tucker prepping Trump's Twitter for the class war.

 

"we're going to continue to bring you a series on what life would be like under sanders"

fade to black

2028. Sanders regime changed America.
The Overton window was shifted so far left over two terms there may be no undoing the damage rebuilding a strong, well educated middle class has done.

*tucker emerges from his roadside tent, chains around his ankles, pick axe in hand. stares forlorn at the camera*

"It was either this or the guillotine"

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Can Tucker update this ad for Sanders?

https://m.

[Nintex]

Laser focused on the issues that matter 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1233482829767507968

[Himu]

Hey guys have you heard that Coronavirus isn't Ebola?

[nachobro]

LIFE UNDER A SANDERS REGIME
Tucker prepping Trump's Twitter for the class war.

damn tucker has a few good points in there. lyin liz is a big phony and media is full of shit.

[Himu]

Coronavirus isn't a big deal. It's not Ebola everyone. You're just freaking out and using it to attack Trump.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/BadBunnyTwitch/status/1232169586499280897

 

[Pennywise]

Coronavirus isn't a big deal. It's not Ebola everyone. You're just freaking out and using it to attack Trump.

Let's get back to climate change.

https://twitter.com/AlexCKaufman/status/1233185858439827457

[Occam]

LIFE UNDER A SANDERS REGIME
Tucker prepping Trump's Twitter for the class war.

damn tucker has a few good points in there. lyin liz is a big phony and media is full of shit.

At times he gets really close to developing self-awareness.

[Himu]

Coronavirus isn't a big deal. It's not Ebola everyone. You're just freaking out and using it to attack Trump.

Let's get back to climate change.

https://twitter.com/AlexCKaufman/status/1233185858439827457

Jesus Christ.

[Occam]

Trump nominates Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-Tex.) to be next director of national intelligence
The Flying Spaghetti Monster help us all.

[BisMarckie]

[OnlyRegret]

Jesus Christ.

There's a definite, child abuser, undercurrent that runs along some strands of right-winger.

damn tucker has a few good points in there. lyin liz is a big phony and media is full of shit.

Being painted as the open-borders welfare guy could definitely hurt.
Affordable, not free, benefits for American taxpaying citizens is presenting a hard enough sell as is.

Not sure how he should retort.

[FStop7]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/arts/design/hunter-biden-art.html

As an undiscovered artist, he is better situated than most: living in a rented, 2,000-square-foot house in the Hollywood Hills off Mulholland Drive, with a Porsche Panamera in the driveway, plenty of natural light and a pool house he has transformed into an art studio.

From the edge of the sloping property — it was leased for $12,000 a month starting last June 15, according to the homeowner — he has a view onto the San Fernando Valley below: Burbank and Universal Studios to the east, the 405 freeway to the west.

Get the fuck out.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/arts/design/hunter-biden-art.html

As an undiscovered artist, he is better situated than most: living in a rented, 2,000-square-foot house in the Hollywood Hills off Mulholland Drive, with a Porsche Panamera in the driveway, plenty of natural light and a pool house he has transformed into an art studio.

From the edge of the sloping property — it was leased for $12,000 a month starting last June 15, according to the homeowner — he has a view onto the San Fernando Valley below: Burbank and Universal Studios to the east, the 405 freeway to the west.

Get the fuck out.

Retired spy life.

[VomKriege]

There's a new Oil Exec in town...

[FStop7]

https://twitter.com/justicedems/status/1233158921629515778

Just say you’re scared of black people, Rahm.

[Himu]

Jesus Christ.

There's a definite, child abuser, undercurrent that runs along some strands of right-winger.

damn tucker has a few good points in there. lyin liz is a big phony and media is full of shit.

Being painted as the open-borders welfare guy could definitely hurt.
Affordable, not free, benefits for American taxpaying citizens is presenting a hard enough sell as is.

Not sure how he should retort.

Right winger? Liberals support oil just as much.

[Joe Molotov]

I’ve already heard Bloomberg’s “Coronavirus is like the flu, the flu kills people” ad three times.

[Nintex]

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COFVEVE REVEALS HIMSELF

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[Cauliflower Of Love]

LIFE UNDER A SANDERS REGIME
Tucker prepping Trump's Twitter for the class war.

I don't think I've ever watched tucker for more than five minutes (this time included) but this seems very different in tone than other segments.

Bernie finally forcing even the crazies to find a more tempered arguement?

[Himu]

Bernie moves the center to the left

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/Millerheighife/status/1233205270051901440

Accurate as fuck. Holy shit.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.theroot.com/dear-debate-moderators-there-are-more-black-issues-bes-1841912370

Others (I’m looking at you, Bernie) contend that their economic plans to address all poverty will help all black people, even if their policies aren’t intentional about addressing institutional racism.

[thisismyusername]

Blue checkmarks grabbing onto Lying Liz' as a last-gasp of NeoLiberalism.

"P-P-PLEASE VOTE FOR HER IN THE CALIFORNIA PRIMARY!"

[Himu]

Tucker regularly has an anti-establishment segment. It's not only anti media but he actually acknowledges the plight of younger Americans. You could even say he's economically left in a way. Many people on the left side of the aisle agree with Tucker on many issues such as low pay, student loan debt, and even healthcare costs. Where he differs is his virulent social conservatism. Many of his suggestions act like an in between between capitalism and socialism. He has acknowledged that when capitalism works the way it is now that you can't blame younger people for turning to socialism or alternatives. Tucker is basically a fascist. He supports many left ideas but really only wants them enacted for the select few he thinks has earned it. He wants conservatives to get on that so the Republicans can win.

He has gone to say, and I quote,"the person that will make it easier for young people to buy a house and start a family" will win in 2020.

Not that different than what Sanders would say isn't it?

Yet his take here was much more measured than his take downs on socialism in the past. Here he concentrates less on ScARy SoCiAlISZM and more on Bernie's record which honestly shocks me.

[OnlyRegret]

Tucks is entertaining, his Trump-catering tends to crater some of his points hard but that isn't the point at the moment.

He's basically running interference for the right, leaning into rhetoric typically left partly for his own flavour of conservatism but to also keep the right-wing base sheparded.
"Capitalism is bad, that's why you need right people to capitalism right"
"Wages are declining, that's why you need Trump's wall to keep out the tide of foreign labour"
"Class is important, and needs to be brought up solely in response to wealthy dem establishment"

It is pretty naked co-opting of talking points that hits multiple notes that the rest of the rank and file talking heads fail to do. He's no leftist, man of the people. He is too rich and privileged to truly relate to what he espouses. He just knows a bit more than the rest of his kind and how to play the base.

[ToxicAdam]

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://amp.ibtimes.sg/north-koreas-first-confirmed-coronavirus-covid-19-patient-shot-dead-report-40042

In what appears to be a rather drastic measure to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus (COVID 19), North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un allegedly sanctioned for the execution of the first North Korean patient tested positive for the deadly strain of the virus.

According to Secret Beijing, an anonymous social media commentator, who terms himself as an analyst on China affairs, the patient was shot dead. The story is still developing and there is still no clarity on the details of the patient executed by North Korea.

 

[VomKriege]

I guess I'm setting myself up to eat some crow if he starts surging but isn't the whole discourse around Bloomberg sort of faux-hyperbolic ? It hits all the buttons for leftists, I get that, him trying to but his way in is gross and he sounds like he has some really terrible opinions in general. But an oligarch riding his way into office even in enlightened Western democracies isn't exactly a novelty anymore and I'm a bit skeptical he's actually a contender...

[benjipwns]

He's basically running interference for the right, leaning into rhetoric typically left partly for his own flavour of conservatism but to also keep the right-wing base sheparded.
"Capitalism is bad, that's why you need right people to capitalism right"
"Wages are declining, that's why you need Trump's wall to keep out the tide of foreign labour"
"Class is important, and needs to be brought up solely in response to wealthy dem establishment"

It is pretty naked co-opting of talking points that hits multiple notes that the rest of the rank and file talking heads fail to do. He's no leftist

I don't consider any of these to be inherently "leftist" positions, explanations or talking points. They're all pretty standard forms of protectionist arguments dating back centuries.

For more, see my new book Why The Left Is Not Right But Is The Right, Right?.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/JoshNBCNews/status/1233202027649474560

Bloomberg is anti Teacher, so I am anti Bloomberg. 

[benjipwns]

I guess I'm setting myself up to eat some crow if he starts surging but isn't the whole discourse around Bloomberg sort of faux-hyperbolic ? It hits all the buttons for leftists, I get that, him trying to but his way in is gross and he sounds like he has some really terrible opinions in general. But an oligarch riding his way into office even in enlightened Western democracies isn't exactly a novelty anymore and I'm a bit skeptical he's actually a contender...

Bloomberg has already surged nationally from around 5% he was stuck at to a 15% range that has kept him third since Biden lost the lead: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

He's not out of line with the Democratic Party writ large. He's more extreme than it on gun control, was likely more pro-LGBT until recently, arguably is more activist on climate change, for example. He's in the mainstream of the party on all sorts of shit that's why he's so easily stepping into Biden's freefall as they differ little on most things and Biden was once on the "left" of the party but decades in the Senate made him a fervent compromiser and "comprehensive"-iser.

He's definitely against the Bernie, and sometimes-Warren wing, but he's never been a "real" Republican outside of liking tax cuts. And openly supporting the War on Terror in its most aggressive forms rather than wanting to continue it "but smarter" like mainstream Democrats.

Where there's an important, and Esch touched on this, is the rhetoric, Bloomberg needs to stop Bernie's more clear rhetoric compared to an Obama/Biden.

What's even more important is that Bloomberg is 78, he's always wanted to run for President, this was the last opening he was going to get.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1231670309599604736

Ted Lieu bending the knee. 


https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status/1231715703922839553

This fucking guy. 

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1233583045871099904