US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Occam]

Notice how Trump keeps using that Mussolini pose?

[EightBitNate]

[Occam]

Can't listen to Trump, his voice makes me sick.

[Trent Dole]

Lol watching any SotU ever

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Yo, this guy.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

"thank you for your devotion to our country"


rush limbaugh


A plug during SOTU, and a medal of freedom.

[shosta]

LMFAOOOOOOOOO

[Cauliflower Of Love]

One trillion tree initiative to save the planet.

[OnlyRegret]

if i recall correctly the streets of sacramento are full of anti vaxxers  so you may have encountered slight resistance!

FTFY.

anti vaxxers
resistance

lmao just sneeze on them

[benjipwns]

Chris Matthews:

"Bernie went down from 45%(2016) to 25% tonight and pete went from nothing to 27%

So I somehow got Sanders, Mayor Pete and Chris Matthews all in one night?

[OnlyRegret]

smh, hillary at 0 right now
so much for madame presidente

[Occam]

"Trump touts his economy as the best ever. The data doesn’t show that."
(WaPo headline)
LOL

[Cauliflower Of Love]

That segue between religion and guns.

[benjipwns]

I nearly unblocked cindi but I’m glad I didn’t based on what I’m seeing itt

oh, so you need someone to do something like this?

I'm never voting for a Republican ever again after this and as much as I disagree/dislike the Democrats on many issues (their cock sucking of Biden and "moderates" for one, their war tendencies that are just as hawkish as the GOP for two) they really are the better of the two parties.

I'm so far away from the gun issue it's not even on my mind anymore. America is at stake.

Republicans are traitors. Vote every R out.

God, today reminds me why I HATE Democrats. This entire PLEASE VOTE DEMOCRAT NO MATTER WHAT. I have done that my entire life. What has improved because of it? Jack SHIT. Democrats can say republicans are cultish all they want talking about DESTROYING OUR DemoCRaCy while always guilt tripping people into voting the way they feel. What democracy? Oh the democracy that guilt trips you for not wanting to vote for some no name fuck that helped delay polling results, invested in the voting app that failed, and is now mysteriously in the lead.

Between the impeachment, the state of the union, Buttigieg, delaying Iowa I am BEYOND stressed today and on the verge of a meltdown. I want to throw my phone on the GODDAMN CONCRETE.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

What the fuck is wrong with this guy.

jfc

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Fuck this asshole and tv show shit.

Imagine how the widow feels right now.


What a peice of shit.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Nancy ripping up the speech.

[shosta]

Imagine how many texts you'd get during the state of the union if you sign up for that shit

It was just these three and then they asked me for more money

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

https://mobile.twitter.com/IAStartingLine/status/1224862499679371267

 

[HaughtyFrank]

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1224897851303628801

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Bernie response

[benjipwns]

What have Democrats ever done for you? I don't know - your most important issues seem to be gun rights and Catholicism

Coincidentally, they're the only major party to ever nominate Catholics for President. (Al Smith, John Kennedy, John Kerry. They'll make it four if they nominate Joe Biden.)

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/a_lutacontinua/status/1224883585435553794


 

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1224909298137993217

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/IllyBocean/status/1224878008311275521

[benjipwns]

https://theoutline.com/post/8636/acronym-shadow-iowa-caucus-results-disaster

Acronym, as the group’s founder and CEO Tara McGowan has told seemingly any reporter who would listen in the last year, was supposed to shake up Democratic politics. Faced with Republican opponents that now actually know how to campaign on social media, the non-profit digital strategy organization intended to offer an effective Democratic countermeasure, guided by digitally savvy hands of the Obama 2012 and Clinton 2016 campaigns.

After the disastrous Iowa Caucus on Monday, it’s hard to imagine that anyone is buying this story now. A faulty smartphone app, developed by the Acronym subsidiary “Shadow,” failed to correctly tabulate Iowa caucus votes. Though the Iowa Democratic Party says the vote counts are unaffected, the confusion has given ailing campaigns room to maneuver that they otherwise wouldn’t have had. Pete Buttigieg took the opportunity to declare victory, apparently based on nothing more than a gut feeling. Joe Biden, who has been slipping in polls for the past couple weeks, has asked for the actual votes to be invalidated.

According to an Acronym staffer, who spoke under condition of anonymity because of a non-disclosure agreement, Acronym is “far and away the most disorganized place I've ever been a part of.”

Launched ahead of the 2018 midterms, Acronym was described initially as a “digital-first startup” (in the words of Axios), co-founded by McGowan and Michael Dubin, the founder of the men’s grooming company Dollar Shave Club whom you might recognize from their ads. McGowan, who previously worked as the digital director of the Obama and Clinton-affiliated Super PAC Priorities USA Action, was able to bring in money for Acronym’s affiliated political action committee Pacronym from a variety of well-known wealthy Democratic funders, including the billionaires George Soros and Marsha Laufer.

Acronym’s actual headcount is difficult to determine because of the hiring spree the company has been on in the last few months. In November, McGowan told the Times that Acronym and Pacronym had raised 40 percent of a planned $75 million, with the goal of deploying that money on anti-Trump advertising in five key battleground states: North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona, an effort called “Four is Enough" (based on the logic that only four of these five states are required to win a national election).

What distinguishes Acronym, McGowan told the Times, is the flexibility offered by its 501(c)(4) “dark money structure” — beyond the obvious advantages of being able to collect virtually unlimited dollars with no required disclosures. A flattering profile (“An A student with an attitude”) of McGowan that appeared on Ozy.com last September described Acronym as having “a web of for-profit companies beneath it,” one of which was “a political tech company with a peer-to-peer texting product” — Shadow.

Although this structure makes it seem that Acronym has the ability to reinvest whatever profits it makes, the Acronym staffer said it manifested as organizational chaos.

“They call it a ‘startup environment’ as an explanation for why no one knows what's happening,” the staffer said.

McGowan’s theory of how digital campaigning works — churning out content for mass reach on social media — has gotten significant media play. In two  separate  Times articles published within a week of each other this past November, McGowan explained that the Democrats and their donors needed to get smart about digital. “We don’t need to spread lies or play to people’s insecurities to win, we just need to compete and get our message to voters every single day where they get their information,” she told the Times on November 1. “Right now, we’re not even on the field.”

“Trump has upped the ante by spending more than any candidate this early in a general election campaign,” she told the Times three days later, “and right now our side is simply not on the field.”

As described by the Acronym staffer, McGowan and Acronym were hardly competing on the field she described. Staffers hired to churn out digital content sat in a room for at least a week, given no direction about what to do. There wasn’t a clear understanding about what the content strategy was supposed to achieve.

These missteps are also not limited to ideas being badly executed — the problem is that the ideas were bad in the first place. A key project McGowan announced in a glossy Bloomberg Businessweek  profile in November was the launch of Courier Newsroom, a center-left content network designed to mimic the aesthetics of local news sites, which McGowan cheerfully spun as a replacement for actual local news.

As a digital strategy firm, Acronym’s idea of how to win the digital “war” against Donald Trump in 2020 also reflects this blinkered thinking. Much like Hillary Clinton’s doomed 2016 effort to campaign against “Dangerous Donald” — and to focus messaging on why Trump is a uniquely bad guy — McGowan (whom the staffer describes has an aggressive hand in Acronym’s content production) told the Times that Democrats must tell “a powerful, true, cohesive story about why this guy is dangerous.”

And whatever special alchemy to reach people that Acronym claims to possess, a Tuesday Daily Beast investigation notes, they don’t appear to have actually tried to tell that “powerful” story: the group reportedly only disbursed about $200,000 of the $1 million they had promised to spend on impeachment advertising against Trump.

[TakingBackSunday]

this country is fucked

[benjipwns]

this country is fucked

[kingv]

It's also an absolute monarchy (another word for fascist dictatorship) and the only way I can watch porn is through VPN's.

Your point?

That just makes it hotter tbh.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

How does michael steel sound so clear with trumps balls in his mouth?

[remy]

Pelosi ripping up the speech was epic and hot af.

I used that move to get elected school captain in the 6th grade

[thisismyusername]

Pelosi ripping up the speech was epic and hot af.

  Can't wait for you and other DNC followers to meme this for the next three weeks.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

https://mobile.twitter.com/chapotraphouse/status/1223386092247928834

 

[benjipwns]

to take this out of Cindi's non-politics focused thread a bit, though maybe it should go in wank dad instead

I've not exactly hidden that Sanders has been my preferred candidate for two cycles now.

wut

I mean of The Party candidates I guess?

Ooo

I assumed that you just enjoyed watching everything from a detached point of view.

Did you happen to watch the Reason debate featuring Richard Wolff? He was weirdly angry the whole time and the libertarian debating him reminded me of you.

Well, I mean, I do. But I do find little events and pieces to root for. It's like in the NBA, I support whoever is against the Lakers. Or Kevin Durant. Or I'm for Mike Budenholzer teams. Or Billups when he got traded, or Andre if he does.

No, I haven't watched or even looked at much reason content lately. Been focused on history stuff more. Don't really like libertarian debates either as they're kinda pure cringe unless they transcend it into quality epic cringe. But I do like watching people get angry so I might poke around through it. Also to find out why this guy reminds of me I guess.

edit: found the debate, "capitalism vs. socialism", the top comment was this:

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[Himu]

What have Democrats ever done for you? I don't know - your most important issues seem to be gun rights and Catholicism

Anti-War and anti-American interventionism/imperialism
Drug war
Student loans
Corporate money in politics
Healthcare

Guns used to be important. They still are, but I'm at a point where I no longer care and I've reverted to my bread and butter: Anti-War, drug war, healthcare, corruption.

Democrats are bad on literally all of the issues I just listed. I voted third party in 2012 to protest Obama because of it. When obama was campaigning people made excuses for his administrations having terrorist lists and kill lists that killed innocent people. Mandark and I fought over it heavily. The iraq war is the main way I got into politics, something many Democrats defended once Obama was president despite protesting while Bush was in office. This is a big reason I supported Tulsi before she proved herself non-viable and before I learned her secret Imperialism.

Democrats do good things, but most of it is muddy. You mention sanctuary states but Obama administration deported an insane amount of immigrants.

For the issues I've cared about Democrats have always been lesser than shit. ACA was a good step forward but I'm currently paying nearly 300 dollars a month for a plan with a 6k deductible. Even Obama's main legacy is shit.

So when Democrats started to rally against guns during a time when they were calling the current administration Nazi's it was pretty easy to drop them.

On all the issues I listed Democrats have refused to budge on the national level because they benefit from the money from big pharma and and wars. The democrats have  had a mentality that is utterly stuck in the status quo. Any reason I vote for democrats now, unless they prove themselves to actually change as a party, is only s temporary truce between the two of us.

I've disliked democrats since at least 2009 or 2010 and haven't identified as one since 2009.

[Himu]

I'll grant that maybe my perception of democrats is because I've lived in red states my whole life besides a short stint in NY. I have no idea what state democrat governance is even like to live under.

Edit: and the most infuriating thing about the democrats is how they always offer change while saying they'll do jack shit to change anything. Democrats always go for symptoms. They never really want to fix the issue wholesale because then that's one less reason to vote for them. Look at Biden, Klobuchar, Buttigieg. They embody all of this.

I honestly cannot wait to leave Texas and finally get to register myself with a big, fat, I next to it.

[team filler]

Pelosi ripping up the speech was epic and hot af.

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1224924360496029697

[benjipwns]

A group of prominent Upstate Republicans is preparing to launch a wide-scale effort this week to encourage GOP voters across South Carolina to vote for U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders in the Feb. 29 Democratic primary, The Post and Courier has learned.

[benjipwns]

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/4/21122737/iowa-democractic-caucus-voting-app-android-testfairy-screenshots-app-store

The New York Times reported that many precinct chiefs had trouble simply downloading the app, and Motherboard’s screenshots give hints as to why that might be. The app was not deployed through traditional app stores or even sideloaded using an enterprise certificate. Instead, it was deployed through mobile testing platforms, including Apple’s TestFlight and a similar service that services both iOS and Android called TestFairy. Both platforms are for apps that are not yet finalized.

...

The screenshot from Motherboard also shows that the app was distributed using the TestFairy platform’s free tier and not its enterprise one. That means Shadow didn’t even pony up for the TestFairy plan that comes with single sign-on authentication, unlimited data retention, and end-to-end encryption. Instead, it looks like the company used the version of TestFairy anyone can try for free, which deletes any app data after 30 days and limits the number of test users that can access the app to 200.

[Mandark]

And my republican stint was a reaction to DEMOCRATS.

If your beliefs flipped from socialist to reactionary just because you were mad at Democrats, that might say more about you than it does about them.

[Transhuman]

Who's this Bernie fella people keep talking about?

[VomKriege]

Enterily tangential, but 70k$ to develop an app (largely useless and superfluous as it may be) up to the level of security and reliability you would expect sounds... Way too cheap ? And a sign it was an afterthought and mostly a fluff contract to shuffle some favors around.

Maybe I don't have a good grasp on that economy but that covers a month of work for 20 people at best ?

[BIONIC]

All you need is a good grasp on the like economy

[MMaRsu]

Secret footage of Great Rumbler

[thisismyusername]

No doxxing.

[ToxicAdam]

Pelosi ripping up the speech was epic and hot af.

I never expected you to be a YAAAS QUEEN-type.

[thisismyusername]

https://mobile.twitter.com/chapotraphouse/status/1223386092247928834

 

He hasn't risen! :'(

No, it's bad. I read this and it had me cackling. Love tech teams doomed to fail

https://twitter.com/kf/status/1224768660138446848

OOF. Ya hate to see it.

[Brehvolution]

I'm curious to see what the app wanted access to on android phones. I'm sure it was the same for iPhones, but ios doesn't show what the app wants access to.

[Joe Molotov]

A group of prominent Upstate Republicans is preparing to launch a wide-scale effort this week to encourage GOP voters across South Carolina to vote for U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders in the Feb. 29 Democratic primary, The Post and Courier has learned.

https://www.twitter.com/wikileaks/status/964971362531074048

[Great Rumbler]

Secret footage of Great Rumbler

(Image removed from quote.)

Only I can defeat Trump in November.

[BIONIC]

[VomKriege]

Iowa een bom zal droppen !

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Imagine if it was team bernie fucking with the shadwo app reporting.

[ToxicAdam]

What makes it all more comical is when you factor in the money (and time) these campaigns spent in Iowa for the potential publicity that a win would create. They spent 68 million in ads alone, so you can conservatively estimate that they spent about 100 million over the past 6 months.

[Transhuman]

Imagine if it was team bernie fucking with the shadow app reporting.

After an unreleased (to the public) poll that less than 48 hours earlier said he would be the clear frontrunner?

[Mandark]

What makes it all more comical is when you factor in the money (and time) these campaigns spent in Iowa for the potential publicity that a win would create. They spent 68 million in ads alone, so you can conservatively estimate that they spent about 100 million over the past 6 months.

Saw a tweet thread explaining that despite the huge amount of money being poured into politics, the incentives aren't there for developing tech tools for the long term (except those that facilitate campaign donations in compliance with the FEC, like ActBlue).

$70k to make an app from scratch and have its first actual use be the Iowa caucuses is... not great.

[TakingBackSunday]

sounds like every fucking bullshit entrepreneurship douchebag that tries to sell his ideas at every tech meetup in Nashville

of course the people that worked for on this were all desperate bootcamp grads wanting their first gig

[VomKriege]

Enterily tangential, but 70k$ to develop an app (largely useless and superfluous as it may be) up to the level of security and reliability you would expect sounds... Way too cheap ? And a sign it was an afterthought and mostly a fluff contract to shuffle some favors around.

Maybe I don't have a good grasp on that economy but that covers a month of work for 20 people at best ?

That would be what my company would charge for me + a one more junior dev for a single month lol.

I was going off a very conservative estimate of total shit wages but yeah I figured.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://twitter.com/edokeefe/status/1225106172094701569

"More and not all"



https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1224819235550941189

[Joe Molotov]

Enterily tangential, but 70k$ to develop an app (largely useless and superfluous as it may be) up to the level of security and reliability you would expect sounds... Way too cheap ? And a sign it was an afterthought and mostly a fluff contract to shuffle some favors around.

Maybe I don't have a good grasp on that economy but that covers a month of work for 20 people at best ?

That would be what my company would charge for me + a one more junior dev for a single month lol.

How much for just the junior dev and a couple of people with no experience or qualifications or maybe just the janitor? Get back to me at joemolotov@peteforamerica.com