US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

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if I get laid off I'll be making more money 

[Mandark]

Dean's wrong about that provision, it's $2k/month for every adult and $1k/month for every child.

Plus a moratorium on consumer debt payments, evictions, repossessions, etc.

[benjipwns]

Great, now Trump is going to outflank by making it $4,000 a month for every adult and $2,000 a month for every child while Biden and Schumer oppose it.

[Joe Molotov]

Democrats need to step up their game to $5000.

[james]

DO I HEAR 9000?

[bluemax]

So I would get extra money and also not have to pay my debt? I guess I could just save all the extra money and then... pay off a portion of my debt?

[Joe Molotov]

So I would get extra money and also not have to pay my debt? I guess I could just save all the extra money and then... pay off a portion of my debt?

You use it to pay the mercenaries that guard your toilet paper after all laws are suspended, duh.

[nachobro]

[Trent Dole]

Pelosi actively trying to cause the rise of national socialism via wanting a 'means test' and blocking some aid bills.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

pretty crazy that trump was the progressive all along

[Joe Molotov]

They removed this story from Politico because it was way too spicy so I'm posting the whole thing here

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House Democrats are drafting a new stimulus bill to address the coronavirus pandemic — legislation designed as their counter-offer to a trillion-dollar package currently being assembled in the Republican-controlled Senate.

On a private call Wednesday, Speaker Nancy Pelosi directed her leadership team and committee chairs to begin further efforts to address the looming economic disaster caused by the growing coronavirus crisis.

The House Democratic plan will incorporate proposals from several panels and is expected to include additional unemployment insurance payments, expanded Medicaid coverage, an airline rescue package, relief for homeowners and renters, support for small businesses, and additional food security measures, according to Democratic lawmakers and aides.

“Time is of the essence, and the House will move swiftly to protect public health and provide relief for the American people,” Pelosi said in a statement Wednesday.

Each House committee will submit their own plans to Pelosi, who will compile a large-scale relief package in the coming days. Pelosi and her top deputies plan to review the ideas with Democrats — who are working from their districts this week — on a conference call Thursday afternoon.

Democratic sources cautioned, however, that their proposal won’t be formally finished until next week. And it’s still unclear if Pelosi intends to bring the House back to vote or just use the Democratic initiative as a bargaining chip in negotiations with the Senate and President Donald Trump.


At times, the call showed the stress facing even lawmakers, as they attempt to hammer out next steps: Pelosi and House Financial Services Chairwoman Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), for instance, had a tense exchange during the call over whether the 2008 Wall Street bailout focused too heavily on big banks and not enough on average Americans, a point both lawmakers made, according to multiple sources who were listening. A source close to Pelosi downplayed the exchange.

Pelosi’s move comes as House Democrats have essentially been locked out of high-stakes negotiations over the so-called “Phase 3” coronavirus relief package. The White House — through Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin — and top Senate Republicans are rushing to draft a trillion-dollar measure that will help keep airlines and small businesses afloat. Mnuchin and Senate Republicans are also considering a $500 billion plan to send direct cash payments to millions of Americans.

The Kentucky Republican is hoping to unveil a GOP position on this new package as early as Thursday, and then enter into discussions with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). Senate Democrats have floated their own $750 billion economic package that includes hundreds of billions in spending to help Americans in economic distress.

McConnell has made clear he wants to deal with Schumer alone, not both Democratic leaders.

"I anticipate what I've said repeatedly, which is we're in a process of deciding exactly where we are and where the administration is — and then we obviously intend to sit down with Sen. Schumer," McConnell told CNN. "And I'm sure he will keep the speaker in the loop and we'll move to getting a bipartisan agreement."

Speaking to her leadership team, Pelosi argued that the “fastest way to get a third package finished by early next week” is for all four senior congressional leaders to sit down and negotiate together, according to an aide on the call. Schumer also made the same argument on the Senate floor Wednesday.

Pelosi is in a race against time as McConnell and GOP leaders have vowed to move the third tranche of recovery legislation through the Senate at “warp speed.” McConnell needs 60 votes to pass any legislation, and House Democrats are concerned he could pick off some Senate Democrats and move a bill through that chamber that they don’t support — leaving them in a difficult position both politically and policy wise.

Pelosi spoke to both Mnuchin and McConnell separately on Tuesday about the next package. But McConnell has rejected Pelosi’s idea of a “four corners” negotiation that includes the quartet of party leaders in both chambers. Schumer has also called for a “four corners” negotiation.

Democratic sources with knowledge of Pelosi’s move said it’s important that they lay down a marker of what proposals the House will and won’t accept, even if they’re not directly in the room with McConnell.

Even Senate Democrats have complained that they’ve been boxed out of the talks in the early stages of legislation that is likely to exceed a trillion dollars.

“Republicans have not consulted any Democrats as to what we want in there,” Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) said during a press conference on Wednesday, when asked about the state of talks on the third package. “Right now, they are doing this from their side only.”

The Senate on Wednesday overwhelmingly passed a multi-billion-dollar aid bill that moved through the House last week. The bill, known as “Phase 2,” expands safety net programs including paid sick leave, unemployment insurance and food assistance to help Americans impacted by the coronavirus. Congress previously passed legislation to bolster the public health system.

Pelosi has said the House and Senate should consider refundable tax credits, expanded unemployment insurance and direct payments. But the California Democrat has been firm that any of the proposals “MUST be targeted,” her spokesman Drew Hammill wrote on Twitter this week.

Pelosi led the negotiations on the second bill, consulting with Mnuchin dozens of times via phone last week as the two worked to quickly hammer out the legislation. McConnell deferred to Mnuchin on the talks but has taken control of the negotiations of the latest legislation.

Congressional leaders are hoping to act quickly to pass the “Phase 3” package both to try to steady the financial markets, which continue to be in a tailspin as the long-term impacts of the virus remain unknown, and to limit the potential exposure lawmakers have to the coronavirus. Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) announced Wednesday he had become the first lawmaker to test positive with the virus.

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Shosta reporting on the stories THEY didn't want us to read. 

[benjipwns]

(Image removed from quote.)

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*BEAST

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[EightBitNate]

That Maxine Waters bill

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/DrPaulGosar/status/1237052471047892993

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/KHiveQueenB/status/1240531928421302272

[BIONIC]

[Trent Dole]

Again, the Khive people are the absolute worst. Your shitty candidate dropped ages ago, fuck off, you suck. .
lmaooo I'm blocked by whoever they are.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1240549626366869504
The world is coming together to deal with this pandemic and Trump tweets
 

Also Trump should boost aid to a nice round number of 10k.

Trumps 10k's also a cruise ship lottery

[kingv]

Great, now Trump is going to outflank by making it $4,000 a month for every adult and $2,000 a month for every child while Biden and Schumer oppose it.

We’ll see if this even makes it out of committee intact.

What she’s recommending is something like the bare minimum of what is needed. We are going to have a recession that makes the last one look fucking quaint.

[Himu]

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=2&vote=00074

wow the gop economic populism

Why do the kids like socialism? This is a repeat of 2008 lmao.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1240431944866975744
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1240433786891972609

 

[headwalk]

https://twitter.com/DrPaulGosar/status/1237052471047892993

historically, even during the most bloody campaigns you were far more likely to die of illness or disease than on the battlefield.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1240652194279546882

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1240652334344163330

[james]

That fucking cunt endorsed Biden?

I hope she dies in a volcano

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Throwing shade at the king and nina because that was gonna be the P/VP combo.



go away with hillary tusli!


Realistically, this just frees up all of her delegate(s) to join the Bernie regime before it's too late.



Let's do this.

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1240431944866975744
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1240433786891972609

 

Told you WaPo was trash

[Himu]

That fucking cunt endorsed Biden?

I hope she dies in a volcano

Lmao after the impeachment vote you're shocked?

[El Babua]

https://twitter.com/rockanrollphoto/status/1240655814081290242

[BisMarckie]

https://twitter.com/rockanrollphoto/status/1240655814081290242

Wow, filler isn’t taking this well. 

[Tripon]

Stretch goal: all Rubin posting will stop immediately

https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1240100243452067841

Is Rubin on Rubin violence okay?

https://twitter.com/RubinReport/status/1239705593520128001

[Trurl]

Is there any chance that Biden embraces M4A soon?  Based on the reaction to the $1000 thing on my Facebook I have a fear of Trump going as far as promising a second check to go out after election day if he wins.

I'm really worried about the rise of fascism right now.

[nachobro]

no matter what trump does the do nothing dems will continue to wring their hands and mumble to themselves while appearing as wishy-washy as humanly possible to not "alienate" anyone in the middle of the pack, you can count on that.

dems best hope is the gop continuing to vote down any relief bill cause a gay or black person might benefit from it and they can't have that.

[Pissy F Benny]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1240652194279546882

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1240652334344163330

Is this gonna be fillers heel turn

[Cauliflower Of Love]

This press conference is unbelieveable, Starting off with asking foreign country for hostages, right to try. it's been like twenty minutes already and nothing corona.

[Trurl]

no matter what trump does the do nothing dems will continue to wring their hands and mumble to themselves while appearing as wishy-washy as humanly possible to not "alienate" anyone in the middle of the pack, you can count on that.

dems best hope is the gop continuing to vote down any relief bill cause a gay or black person might benefit from it and they can't have that.

Why adopt the name "do nothing Dems." we both share a dissatisfaction with their efforts but it's still bullshit within the context of our two party system and helps the president's party.

Mandark has been pointing out how it's not true that the GOP is actually positioning itself left, but it certainly looks possible to me that they'll win the messaging war.  Why help them?

[nachobro]

cause its funny and posts on this messageboard mean zero in the grand scheme of things

[Trurl]

Filler is watching

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Dude sounds like he's gonna cry "we've never done this, the economy is so great, we've never told people to stay home when the economy is so good"

[who is ted danson?]

TULSI!!!!!

GOD FUCKING

[kingv]

Pelosi actively trying to cause the rise of national socialism via wanting a 'means test' and blocking some aid bills.

Pelosi coming after The Republicans with a right hook!

I’d like to see Trump wriggle his way out of that!

[BIONIC]

YOU LIED TO ME FILLER

[Cauliflower Of Love]

at this planted question

What was the question

[toku]

[kingv]

Hasn’t neera been calling her a Russian asset for 18 months?

[Joe Molotov]

Hasn’t neera been calling her a Russian asset for 18 months?

But now she's our Russian asset.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

at this planted question

What was the question

Something like "Why do you think the media is promoting COMMUNIST China propaganda and siding with terrorists to say bad things about you"

missed that, but I did hear him say he's ok with taking ownership of some companies.

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[stufte]

We deserve Trump.

[jakefromstatefarm]

tulsi sucks

[Madrun Badrun]

As someone for universal income, I don't get the 1000$.  It seems like it just meant to stimulate the economy and not for aid, which is super silly.  1000$ won't cover rent in a lot of places for one month, so unless you guys keep doing it not sure how much it helps.   Also why use all that money for many people who won't have financial issues in the next year?  Like, I'd like a free 1000$ but I don't need it. 

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

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tulsi sucks

SHE'S A RUSSIAN FUCKING ASSET DUMBASS BIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1240678171437142016

lmao what the fuck 

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1240647771872518144
https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1240663104784080896


oUtFlAnKiNg FrOm ThE lEfT

[Brehvolution]

As someone for universal income, I don't get the 1000$.  It seems like it just meant to stimulate the economy and not for aid, which is super silly.  1000$ won't cover rent in a lot of places for one month, so unless you guys keep doing it not sure how much it helps.   Also why use all that money for many people who won't have financial issues in the next year?  Like, I'd like a free 1000$ but I don't need it.

If your rent was $1000 and UBI was enacted monthly, there is a strong likelyhood your rent would get jacked to $2000 or higher.

[james]

Makes sense, if you dont pay taxes, you dont deserve a tax refund.

Sorry poors