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« Reply #540 on: January 14, 2018, 11:21:30 AM »
https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355

Another recent data point for my theory that dudes who broadcast their progressive feminist woke-ness with ceaseless abandon usually end up being sleazy and manipulative. Even in college nearly a decade ago I knew about a dozen dudes who fit this profile to a tee. Would always talk the talk but without fail try and get women wasted at hose parties so they could get their nut on.


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« Reply #541 on: January 14, 2018, 12:53:05 PM »
These are getting more and more ridiculous, don't suck a dick on the first date if you are not planning to fuck  :mindblown
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« Reply #542 on: January 14, 2018, 01:45:15 PM »
 :confused You've never had things get hot, but your date doesn't want to actually fuck yet? Less common as I get older for sure, but that expectation is p ignorant. 
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« Reply #543 on: January 14, 2018, 01:50:40 PM »
Again, just like religion. If someone goes around touting about how holy and religious they are, they're hiding some big unusual sin. Someone goes around saying they hate the gays, those people love cock more than gay people, some dude goes around saying he's a male feminist, dude's hiding something really creepy.
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« Reply #544 on: January 14, 2018, 01:56:54 PM »
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« Reply #545 on: January 14, 2018, 02:45:04 PM »
:confused You've never had things get hot, but your date doesn't want to actually fuck yet? Less common as I get older for sure, but that expectation is p ignorant.

Might be an age thing. That is sort of common at 23 (girls age) but in your thirties I’d say more women are down to fuck than suck dick, all things considered.

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« Reply #546 on: January 14, 2018, 05:02:24 PM »
Guys who are overly loud about their feminism and support of women always end up being creeps


Guys who are overly loud about hating gays and homosexuality always end up gobbling cocks


It's cliche at this point tbh

Guys who are overly loud about bashing GAF/Reset always end up posting there.
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« Reply #547 on: January 14, 2018, 09:13:55 PM »
even entry level rational/public choice theory textbooks state that the main incentive that drives youth into joining any movement or scene is to get laid. i swear in one of these books it even states that best place to get laid as a college student wasn't at a bar but a political rally.


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« Reply #548 on: January 15, 2018, 12:00:55 AM »

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« Reply #549 on: January 15, 2018, 01:42:24 PM »
Fun Fact: NeilPoonHandler hasn't actually handled any poon.
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« Reply #550 on: January 15, 2018, 01:48:24 PM »
These are getting more and more ridiculous, don't suck a dick on the first date if you are not planning to fuck  :mindblown

A lot of times they'll be down to suck you off the first night, but you have to wait until the second to fuck.

Yeah, common convention is that you don't "put out" in the first date.

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« Reply #551 on: January 15, 2018, 02:21:22 PM »
These are getting more and more ridiculous, don't suck a dick on the first date if you are not planning to fuck  :mindblown

A lot of times they'll be down to suck you off the first night, but you have to wait until the second to fuck.

Yeah, common convention is that you don't "put out" in the first date.
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« Reply #552 on: January 15, 2018, 02:31:21 PM »
I'd rather put in on the first date. :patel

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« Reply #553 on: January 16, 2018, 02:27:25 AM »
https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355

Another recent data point for my theory that dudes who broadcast their progressive feminist woke-ness with ceaseless abandon usually end up being sleazy and manipulative. Even in college nearly a decade ago I knew about a dozen dudes who fit this profile to a tee. Would always talk the talk but without fail try and get women wasted at hose parties so they could get their nut on.

https://medium.com/@dr_eprice/a-few-words-about-sexual-coercion-in-the-wake-of-the-aziz-ansari-accusations-7db015c1cde5

https://twitter.com/reappropriate/status/952647112390397952

I read the Babe article and the Medium one I linked, above. I agree with the tweet.

The woman in the Medium article describes a scenario where she was badgered for days, and didn't feel like she should leave.

I don't get that and I'm unlikely to ever understand it — I'm in just about every privileged category which can have its checkbox checked, including rarely having felt physically threatened once adulthood was reached. But the women here are not talking about feeling threatened, they're talking about feeling pressure, about feeling coerced.

The Babe article depicts Aziz not responding to physical cues the woman was giving; she didn't want to have sex, but was not willing to say, "This thing you want, I don't want it right now. It's not going to happen. Fuck off." This was after he had gone down on her. Of course anyone has every right to stop where things are heading, and at the same time there must be a recognition that allowing cunnilingus is not the best way to discourage further physical intimacy. That claw thing, turn away your face and say "No. I'm not into that." Call your own Uber, or show yourself out the door.

FWIW, I was bullied and physically abused by schoolmates, the way many young boys are with each other, until I learned how to defend myself physically. Then in high school, I encountered institutionalized bullying through the varsity wrestling team, where it was the first time I'd thought seriously about killing or crippling another human. I knew fear which came from being made to feel physically helpless through mental and physical assault. I left wrestling. I was assaulted in the gym by several former "team mates" simultaneously when I announced that I'd leave the team.

In the end, I left.

My problem, and it doesn't really matter that I feel this way to anyone but myself, is that we are looking at a sea-change moment in equal rights. The volume of people speaking up about sexual assault is breathtaking, and there needs to be a reckoning. There will be change. Eliza Dushku being assaulted by someone she had to rely on to keep her safe in dangerous work is heartbreaking. Kevin Spacey forcing himself on a 14-year-old is vile. Bill Cosby and his weird kinks, enabled by everyone around him… there is SO MUCH to process right now.

I can't help but feel apprehension at an article anonymously taking down Aziz for being a pathetic, clueless putz who tried for sex with a woman who felt she couldn't say "no" or leave. And follow-up articles which say, "If you don’t think what Aziz Ansari did was coercive, you haven’t been in that kind of spot. Fucking good for you. But shut the fuck up about it. You don’t know. I’m glad for you, that you don’t know, but you need to shut up and listen to those of us who have knowledge on the subject." More people telling the rest of the world to shut the fuck up and listen.

It's going to be said that it's my privilege talking, and I'll accept that, but as much as we can all shut the fuck up and listen, maybe these people who felt coerced can be better about voicing their objections more clearly, and sooner.

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« Reply #554 on: January 16, 2018, 04:23:12 AM »
yeah, it's a tough one, i wasnt going to comment on it, and it's easy to get caught up in this shit. most women I'm close to have related stories like that, feeling pressured, not being assertive, going along with uncomfortable sex and feeling gross and violated later. it sucks for sure. Aziz clearly didn't like her, and was a 'bad' date but they used a lot of poetic license to depict him as coercive even prior to anything that happened. He chose her wine - he chose white wine for me, i prefer red  ::) and he paid so quickly! the horror. she had no agency! later how he acted is kinda up for interpretation i guess. he seems like a jerk, a sleaze and manipulative, and I would judge someone if i heard they behaved that way from someone that slept with them, while simultaneously judging them (prob internally) for being unable to deal with adult society and look after themselves. she stated she didn't feel threatened, didn't think of the encounter as assault or harassment... but she felt violated. public shaming seems way too far for a bad, disrespectful date. tl;dr my take is the article is some bullshit, and "grace" just got used by the real life sploosh.com to generate outrage for notoriety.
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« Reply #555 on: January 16, 2018, 04:52:03 AM »
edit, not sploosh - 'girlcroosh' :/ unnecessary reference to bojack when i simply meant a shitty pop feminism site for teens.
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« Reply #556 on: January 16, 2018, 05:35:20 PM »
These are getting more and more ridiculous, don't suck a dick on the first date if you are not planning to fuck  :mindblown

A lot of times they'll be down to suck you off the first night, but you have to wait until the second to fuck.

I don't know I guess is the cultural difference or something, but usually a hot and heavy date without sex for me means she let me play with a tittie, if we get to the point were my dick came out and we don't fuck, is either because there are no condoms, she is on her period or her white husband came home.
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« Reply #557 on: January 16, 2018, 07:40:12 PM »
You forgot to mention that your white husband came home.

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« Reply #558 on: January 16, 2018, 08:03:14 PM »
Found a couple of pretty good rebuttals to my "why don't they just leave" question:

http://www.katykatikate.com/2017/11/pro-tip-louis-fucking-ck.html

http://www.katykatikate.com/2018/01/not-that-bad_15.html

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« Reply #559 on: January 16, 2018, 08:24:17 PM »
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« Reply #560 on: January 16, 2018, 08:45:08 PM »
I can’t help but think we’ve entered a point where feminists have decided “it’s rape if it feels rapey to you”.

The line is... wherever that individual woman decided it is, after the fact. There is no state in which Aziz Ansari would be convicted of any crime.

At some point, people need to take some modicum of responsibility of the situations they put themselves into. Nonverbal cues don’t count, unless it’s a slap or to push them away. Might as well just say “I thought really hard about how I didn’t want to fuck him”. If the response is, “I don’t know this man, and what he is capable of, because I know that OTHER men rape”

Then  why the fuck did you go home alone with a man that you think might rape you? At the end of the day, Aziz Ansari might be a thirsty d-bag, but she gave him mixed signals and he backed off once she was firm. I won’t say he didn’t do anything “wrong”, but he lived by the code of no means no, and even apologized when he realized that his signals were crossed.

There has to be room for honest mistakes and miscommunication.

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« Reply #561 on: January 16, 2018, 09:02:41 PM »
Can you imagine the amount of guys getting #metoo'd for playing 'just the tip' these days . It'd be a bloodbath.  :-X

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« Reply #562 on: January 16, 2018, 09:06:54 PM »
I think the fish hook 🎣 is what did Aziz in. That’s strictly a second date maneuver.

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« Reply #563 on: January 16, 2018, 09:18:32 PM »
These are getting more and more ridiculous, don't suck a dick on the first date if you are not planning to fuck  :mindblown

A lot of times they'll be down to suck you off the first night, but you have to wait until the second to fuck.

Yeah, common convention is that you don't "put out" in the first date.
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I said Common Convention. Not "modern convention." :yeshrug

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« Reply #564 on: January 16, 2018, 09:29:18 PM »
Can you imagine the amount of guys getting #metoo'd for playing 'just the tip' these days . It'd be a bloodbath.  :-X
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« Reply #565 on: January 16, 2018, 11:51:03 PM »
I can’t help but think we’ve entered a point where feminists have decided “it’s rape if it feels rapey to you”.

The line is... wherever that individual woman decided it is, after the fact. There is no state in which Aziz Ansari would be convicted of any crime.

At some point, people need to take some modicum of responsibility of the situations they put themselves into. Nonverbal cues don’t count, unless it’s a slap or to push them away. Might as well just say “I thought really hard about how I didn’t want to fuck him”. If the response is, “I don’t know this man, and what he is capable of, because I know that OTHER men rape”

Then  why the fuck did you go home alone with a man that you think might rape you? At the end of the day, Aziz Ansari might be a thirsty d-bag, but she gave him mixed signals and he backed off once she was firm. I won’t say he didn’t do anything “wrong”, but he lived by the code of no means no, and even apologized when he realized that his signals were crossed.

There has to be room for honest mistakes and miscommunication.

Sounds like me that it’s a good time for straight folks to turn to homosexuality. From a perspective of sexual goals and motivation, men and women are clearly not compatible in the modern world. If straight dudes would train themselves to go gay, they’d be saving themselves a lot of trouble. HIV/AIDS is easier to deal with than sexual assault allegations. End the matriarchy. Say no to women.
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« Reply #566 on: January 17, 2018, 12:35:22 AM »
A woman shouldn't have to get "firm", and the signals weren't really mixed at all.

She was down to make out with him, chill with him, maybe sleep over. She might have been down for oral. She wasn't down to fuck him that night. She may have been down to fuck him the second night, or the third night, if he'd been a gentleman instead of a creep. We've all been in a situation like that, right? It's not always all or nothing.

She has to at least be clear. If you read her account, she said “No” one time, then they watched Seinfeld and then he kissed her again, she said she wanted to go and he called her a cab. She shouldn’t have to push him off her or slap hIm, but she does have to be straightforward about what she will and won’t do if she expects him to abide by it. If she’s not saying no, or asking him to stop, she’s basically agreeing to whatever is going on.

When he said he was going to get a condom, she could have said, “whoa, this is our first date, we’re not having sex”. If she’s not straightforward, I don’t know how she can expect the dude to read her mind.

I don’t know what a nonverbal cue is, and I don’t know how Aziz is supposed to know what she means. Maybe she’s shy, maybe she’s nervous, but she is in his  house, giving him head, so it’s not crazy to think she is still into him.

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« Reply #567 on: January 17, 2018, 02:30:28 AM »
Did they watch Seinfeld after the oral sex ? If so :what  :hhh

Edit : While she maybe said no only once, skimming through the article I'm not sure it's fair to say she was only vaguely refusing.

I mean...

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I wasn’t really even thinking of that, I didn’t want to be engaged in that with him. But he kept asking, so I said, ‘Next time.’ And he goes, ‘Oh, you mean second date?’ and I go, ‘Oh, yeah, sure,’ and he goes, ‘Well, if I poured you another glass of wine now, would it count as our second date?’” He then poured her a glass and handed it to her. She excused herself to the bathroom soon after.

And that was after an alleged half an hour of Ansari trying to wet his fingers in her throat to finger her. Even I would probably take the cue. I dunno, maybe I'm secretly a boring sex shy puritan but as the story is told Ansari sounded incredibly pushy, needy and deaf to his partner.
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« Reply #568 on: January 17, 2018, 03:21:25 AM »
Come on, surely you know what a nonverbal cue is. Think body language, posture, reciprocation. Even semi-verbal cues like vocal tone, etc.

Someone shouldn’t have to directly tell you that they’re uncomfortable for you to realize it. Say I’m your coworker, and we’re hanging out for the first time, and have a bunch of drinks at your place, and you’re like, “Check out this Top 10 ISIS chainsaw executions video I’ve got,” and I’m cringing a bit and saying things like, “Can we watch South Park or something?” In that scenario you’d pick up on the fact that I’m not really down to watch the ISIS chainsaw execution compilation, right? But if you kept pressing the matter, brushing my objections aside, desperately wanting to show me the ISIS chainsaw execution video even as I’m telling you “That’s really not my thing”, I’d have to directly tell you, “No, fucker, I don’t want to watch your fucked up snuff film,” and wouldn’t that be way more awkward for our friendship? We probably wouldn’t even have a friendship if it had to get to that point. 

You’re hoping that someone will just get it without you having to flat out say something that sounds kind of antisocial, because you still want to believe the best about this person, you still want to be friends with this person. And it’s way worse for women than for a dude and his coworker as in my hypothetical example, because instead of watching a video I’m having my body penetrated.

Think about the fact that the ask in this kind of sexual encounter is for a person to allow someone to stick part of themselves into the other person’s body. How many things have gone up your ass in the last few years? It’s not exactly like bumming a cigarette. So you’re hanging out with someone you’ve just met, they’re asking to penetrate your body, you really aren’t sure about that, and they just won’t stop pressuring you. Just won’t stop. Wouldn’t you find that a little fucked up?

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« Reply #569 on: January 17, 2018, 04:06:36 AM »
Why are you assholes still acting like a woman can't say I have no interest in sex?

They aren't incapable doll brained distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.

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« Reply #570 on: January 17, 2018, 04:07:28 AM »
No, but they're on average physically weaker and less confrontational.

Why are you acting like it's that easy?

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« Reply #571 on: January 17, 2018, 04:38:13 AM »
Like this post to demonstrate the power of nonverbal cues.
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« Reply #573 on: January 17, 2018, 05:43:48 AM »
I can't believe he made her drink white wine instead of the much superior red  :pitbull
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« Reply #574 on: January 17, 2018, 08:27:01 AM »
I too think that red wine is orders of magnitude preferable to white (hobo) wine, if you're drinking it with fish you announce yourself to be a commoner though  :snob

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« Reply #575 on: January 17, 2018, 08:31:03 AM »
No, but they're on average physically weaker and less confrontational.

Why are you acting like it's that easy?

If you are going up to a dudes apartment after dinner, with the intention of not having sex, you should be prepared to be clear about your actual intentions. Because just going into his apartment is a nonverbal cue that you probs DTF.

“It’s sexual assault if the man doesn’t abide by whatever nonverbal cues the woman THINKS she is giving off is not a workable standard”.

We are all adults with agency, and have a responsibility to tell others what we want and don’t want. I tell people no all the time at work and at home (except my wife, I’m not THAT dumb). It’s not always easy, but if you’re not prepared to do it, don’t go up to old boys apartment after a 35 minute rushed dinner date.

He didn’t even give her the right colored wine for Pete’s sake! All the clues were there, that she was in for a night of molestiness with a man that can’t read minds.

Edit: you know what else is white? CUM and Supremacy! All the signs were there that he would dominate her.

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« Reply #576 on: January 17, 2018, 08:44:22 AM »
No, but they're on average physically weaker and less confrontational.

Why are you acting like it's that easy?

Exactly the reason why women can't and should not be:

-President
-CEOs
-In executive positions
-In the army
-Being paid the same as a man


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« Reply #577 on: January 17, 2018, 12:54:50 PM »
i dont see why we need to have a woman in this thread when we have etoilet and his sage wisdom
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« Reply #578 on: January 17, 2018, 01:48:57 PM »
How the fuck do you people survive if you can't read non-verbal cues
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« Reply #579 on: January 17, 2018, 02:05:26 PM »
She said "Let's relax."

She repeatedly moved her hand away from his penis after he kept returning it there.

She repeatedly got up and moved away from him and he followed and wouldn't let her get away.

She stopped kissing or otherwise participating physically.

She said, "Next time."

She spent 5 minutes in the bathroom.

She said she didn't want to feel forced.

She said she wasn't ready to do this.

She said you guys are all the same.

She left.

What part of that requires you to read someone's mind?

Yeah, but throughout all of that, she is intermittently sucking by him off. If someone says “I don’t want to feel forced” and then you ask them to suck you, and they do it, you didn’t sexually assault them. If they then say “no, I’m not ready for this, and you stop, you didn’t sexually assault them.

He was definitely “acting like a horny eighteen year old” but he didn’t sexually assault her. I’m not exactly saying what he did was “cool” but it’s not sexual assault.

Also, I think parents need to explain the unexpected context of this type of situation to their kids. So you go on a first date with some dude, who’s like a dozen years older than you, he rushes you through dinner, and suggests you go straight back to his house, the context of what he thinks is happening is like red flashing lights in your face. He’s not taking you back there to swap pictures and get your critique on his latest stand up.

 It’s not her fault, per se,  but the whole situation was also easily avoidable. A person smart enough to see that was walking into a sex fantasy would have been like “it’s a nice night, let’s go for a walk around the city” or “let’s go get a coffee and get to know each other better” or “I’ve always wanted to see “insert local landmark here” at night time.

I think she wasn’t sexually assaulted, and also, if we should expect Aziz to be smart enough to understand her cues, we should also expect her to have been smart enough to see the context of the situation for what it was.

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« Reply #580 on: January 17, 2018, 02:09:16 PM »
jesus christ
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« Reply #581 on: January 17, 2018, 03:17:53 PM »
She said "Let's relax."

She repeatedly moved her hand away from his penis after he kept returning it there.

She repeatedly got up and moved away from him and he followed and wouldn't let her get away.

She stopped kissing or otherwise participating physically.

She said, "Next time."

She spent 5 minutes in the bathroom.

She said she didn't want to feel forced.

She said she wasn't ready to do this.

She said you guys are all the same.

She left.

What part of that requires you to read someone's mind?
Nah, man. Let's rewind to the colour of the wine, the really important bit.

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« Reply #582 on: January 17, 2018, 03:58:25 PM »
you kid, but that line 'bout the wine is incredibly leading and a small part of the overall issues with the piece, and why women from WaPo, NYT, Atlantic, CNN and many other pubs disagree with the ethics of the piece.... that, and babe is a notoriously shock value clickbait shithole.
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« Reply #583 on: January 17, 2018, 04:01:32 PM »
White is my preferred choice to be honest, I prefer mineral, dry tastes. But for heavy flavored meal red always wins out.

Rosé tho :hhh
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« Reply #584 on: January 17, 2018, 04:22:49 PM »
white gives me a headache

dry reds pls

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« Reply #585 on: January 17, 2018, 04:26:03 PM »
white gives me a headache

dry reds pls
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« Reply #586 on: January 17, 2018, 04:47:29 PM »
Whites can be really refreshing, especially in summer. And I'm basic so I like it with seafood. :yeshrug

Reds are generally my favorite.

Champagne et all are fun for lighter occasions.

Rosé really hits the spot sometimes, in small doses.

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« Reply #587 on: January 17, 2018, 04:56:38 PM »
I don’t know what a nonverbal cue is

Do you mean this literally? Like in your daily life?

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« Reply #588 on: January 17, 2018, 05:35:14 PM »
Red > white, rose is p yum

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« Reply #589 on: January 17, 2018, 05:45:45 PM »
She said "Let's relax."

She repeatedly moved her hand away from his penis after he kept returning it there.

She repeatedly got up and moved away from him and he followed and wouldn't let her get away.

She stopped kissing or otherwise participating physically.

She said, "Next time."

She spent 5 minutes in the bathroom.

She said she didn't want to feel forced.

She said she wasn't ready to do this.

She said you guys are all the same.

She left.

What part of that requires you to read someone's mind?
To be fair, this is Aziz Azari we're talking about. Completely in the realm of believability that he'd still not get it after all the above.
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Re: Celebrity Sexual Harasment Apocalypse Thread
« Reply #590 on: January 17, 2018, 07:04:35 PM »
I don’t know what a nonverbal cue is

Do you mean this literally? Like in your daily life?

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I’ve been with the same woman for like 10 years, and wouldn’t say that I could 100% reliably pick up on her nonverbal cues. And that’s with somebody I know very well, much less a total stranger.

Obviously I know what one is, but I’m not going to put much stock in them as an effective way to communicate.

Many are the mornings where my wife says some shit like “oh, why didn’t we have sex last night, I was pointing my butt towards you” or some shit like that.

Edit: here’s the caliber of person that wrote that article. She should post on the bore  :doge

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It's an unequivocal no from me. The way your colleague Ashleigh (?), someone I'm certain no one under the age of 45 has ever heard of, by the way, ripped into my source directly was one of the lowest, most despicable things I've ever seen in my entire life. Shame on her. Shame on HLN. Ashleigh could have "talked" to me. She could have "talked" to my editor or my publication. But instead, she targeted a 23-year-old woman in one of the most vulnerable moments of her life, someone she's never f------ met before, for a little attention. I hope the ratings were worth it! I hope the ~500 RTs on the single news write-up made that burgundy lipstick bad highlights second-wave feminist has-been feel really relevant for a little while. She DISGUSTS me, and I hope when she has more distance from the moment she has enough of a conscience left to feel remotely ashamed - doubt it, but still. Must be nice to piggyback off of the fact that another woman was brave enough to speak up and add another dimension to the societal conversation about sexual assault. Grace wouldn't know how that feels, because she struck out into this alone, because she's the bravest person I've ever met. I would NEVER go on your network. I would never even watch your network. No woman my age would ever watch your network. I will remember this for the rest of my career - I'm 22 and so far, not too shabby! And I will laugh the day you fold. If you could let Ashleigh know I said this, and that she is no-holds-barred the reason, it'd be a real treat for me.
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« Reply #591 on: January 17, 2018, 07:17:38 PM »
Why are you assholes still acting like a woman can't say I have no interest in sex?

They aren't incapable doll brained distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.

STILL ASKING

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« Reply #592 on: January 17, 2018, 07:25:36 PM »
Seems like i'm worse than Hitler because i kinda agree with both sides here.

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« Reply #593 on: January 17, 2018, 07:26:05 PM »
Fear of violent response, I would imagine, are you new to this subject? Mostly no one is answering because it’s clearly a false binary you’ve presented.

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« Reply #594 on: January 17, 2018, 07:28:49 PM »
from Aziz?

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« Reply #595 on: January 17, 2018, 07:29:29 PM »
Ya fear of the brown man runs deep, you know that

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« Reply #596 on: January 17, 2018, 07:32:59 PM »
Sexual encounters are messy. First date stuff is real unknown territory.

Both people have a responsibility to pay attention to signals being sent and both parties have a responsibility to send clear signals.

But what I'm sensing here is that men have a responsibility to read all signals correctly and women have little responsibility because they're weak little girls.

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« Reply #597 on: January 17, 2018, 08:27:03 PM »
Seems like i'm worse than Hitler because i kinda agree with both sides here.

At least Hitler knew where he stood, scumbag. 

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« Reply #598 on: January 17, 2018, 09:08:40 PM »
I don’t know what a nonverbal cue is

Do you mean this literally? Like in your daily life?

edit: beaten by Contra

I’ve been with the same woman for like 10 years, and wouldn’t say that I could 100% reliably pick up on her nonverbal cues. And that’s with somebody I know very well, much less a total stranger.

Obviously I know what one is, but I’m not going to put much stock in them as an effective way to communicate.

Many are the mornings where my wife says some shit like “oh, why didn’t we have sex last night, I was pointing my butt towards you” or some shit like that.

Edit: here’s the caliber of person that wrote that article. She should post on the bore  :doge

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It's an unequivocal no from me. The way your colleague Ashleigh (?), someone I'm certain no one under the age of 45 has ever heard of, by the way, ripped into my source directly was one of the lowest, most despicable things I've ever seen in my entire life. Shame on her. Shame on HLN. Ashleigh could have "talked" to me. She could have "talked" to my editor or my publication. But instead, she targeted a 23-year-old woman in one of the most vulnerable moments of her life, someone she's never f------ met before, for a little attention. I hope the ratings were worth it! I hope the ~500 RTs on the single news write-up made that burgundy lipstick bad highlights second-wave feminist has-been feel really relevant for a little while. She DISGUSTS me, and I hope when she has more distance from the moment she has enough of a conscience left to feel remotely ashamed - doubt it, but still. Must be nice to piggyback off of the fact that another woman was brave enough to speak up and add another dimension to the societal conversation about sexual assault. Grace wouldn't know how that feels, because she struck out into this alone, because she's the bravest person I've ever met. I would NEVER go on your network. I would never even watch your network. No woman my age would ever watch your network. I will remember this for the rest of my career - I'm 22 and so far, not too shabby! And I will laugh the day you fold. If you could let Ashleigh know I said this, and that she is no-holds-barred the reason, it'd be a real treat for me.

The 22 year old is cuntsplaining.

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Re: Celebrity Sexual Harasment Apocalypse Thread
« Reply #599 on: January 17, 2018, 10:41:49 PM »
Bow to the authority of a 22 year old career 'journalist'