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BisMarckie

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57300 on: January 29, 2019, 03:52:32 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ted-bundy-wasnt-special-or-smart-he-was-just-white.96454/

Wait till they find out about Larry Bird!

I am working on an thinkpiece that will discuss whether Hitler had it easier to rise to power in post-war Germany because of his whiteness.

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« Reply #57301 on: January 29, 2019, 03:56:28 PM »
It's great to see how everyone initially responds pretty reasonable, saying that it really does sound kind of outlandish, but still more than possible that it happened and that there's no real benefit for him to make this up. Then the more unhinged users slowly creep in who instantly ascribe maliciousness to the comment until finally non-slickness is achieved.


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« Reply #57302 on: January 29, 2019, 03:58:11 PM »

It's almost like sociopaths have the ability to adapt to whatever social situations they're in at the time or something.  A common trait among them is that they'd be considered charming and intelligent if not outright magnetic to people until the mask slips.

But oh no, he was only successful at killing because he was white.  That has to be it.

Typical privilege of a white supremacist society holding back the proud black american from earning their deserved recognition as a misanthropic serial kille... wait, what?

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« Reply #57303 on: January 29, 2019, 04:03:26 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ted-bundy-wasnt-special-or-smart-he-was-just-white.96454/

Wait till they find out about Larry Bird!

It's almost like sociopaths have the ability to adapt to whatever social situations they're in at the time or something.  A common trait among them is that they'd be considered charming and intelligent if not outright magnetic to people until the mask slips.

But oh no, he was only successful at killing because he was white.  That has to be it.

Funny this was brought having recently watched the trailer for the movie. I thought the tone of the trailer was a bit weird. Although I'm starting to think perhaps it isn't now. Maybe it reflects the way some people saw him back then.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=25046.msg2563276#msg2563276

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ted-bundy-wasnt-special-or-smart-he-was-just-white.96454/post-17374461
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That take misses the forest for the trees. Most serial killers are white. His charm and good looks are massively overblown though. He’s just less of a socially incompetent freak when compared to many other big hitter serial killers.

This guy makes a good point. Most serial killers are white. If Ted Bundy was a fat creepy looking guy who was socially awkward there would have been a very different response.


 

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« Reply #57304 on: January 29, 2019, 04:07:57 PM »
TVC is probably triggered af right now
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agrajag

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57305 on: January 29, 2019, 04:11:00 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ted-bundy-wasnt-special-or-smart-he-was-just-white.96454/

Wait till they find out about Larry Bird!

It's almost like sociopaths have the ability to adapt to whatever social situations they're in at the time or something.  A common trait among them is that they'd be considered charming and intelligent if not outright magnetic to people until the mask slips.

But oh no, he was only successful at killing because he was white.  That has to be it.

Funny this was brought having recently watched the trailer for the movie. I thought the tone of the trailer was a bit weird. Although I'm starting to think perhaps it isn't now. Maybe it reflects the way some people saw him back then.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=25046.msg2563276#msg2563276

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ted-bundy-wasnt-special-or-smart-he-was-just-white.96454/post-17374461
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That take misses the forest for the trees. Most serial killers are white. His charm and good looks are massively overblown though. He’s just less of a socially incompetent freak when compared to many other big hitter serial killers.

This guy makes a good point. Most serial killers are white. If Ted Bundy was a fat creepy looking guy who was socially awkward there would have been a very different response.

he could always  have a career in dressing up as a clown and abducting children!

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« Reply #57306 on: January 29, 2019, 04:12:57 PM »
he could always  have a career in dressing up as a clown and abducting children!
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VomKriege

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57307 on: January 29, 2019, 04:13:12 PM »
Left Podcast on the Left isn't a scientific source but they did touch on the fact there were more black serial killers as usually thought with at least two (, maybe more, operating at the same time in the rough parts of LA. Possibly underreported on account of some prejudice (though more towards the victims themselves than anything : missing black sex workers are possibly even less of a worry for police than sex workers already are).

I think systemic study of that phenomenon is still fairly recent all things considered and I'm not sure the overall picture is well understood yet.
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agrajag

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« Reply #57308 on: January 29, 2019, 04:16:28 PM »
but it did for John Wayne Gacey! It's pretty impressive what he did for an ugly white dude.


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« Reply #57309 on: January 29, 2019, 04:25:03 PM »
So Swab really was a Alimnassor type?


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Disgusting.. Tired of these alt-right incel FUCKS constantly dog whistling and spewing their shit across the internet is so ridiculously out of hand. The media is there to tell us the truth, and these fascists literally are trying to tear the truth down so that they can hope to influence ignorant people to their cause. The constant attacks on the media are disgusting and people who aren't as hip to the world as us on Resetera end up falling for the anti-media propaganda. This is NOT okay.

https://resetera.com//threads/%E2%80%9Clearn-to-code%E2%80%9D-the-meme-attacking-media.96416/post-17373075


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« Reply #57310 on: January 29, 2019, 04:26:34 PM »
So Swab really was a Alimnassor type?


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Disgusting.. Tired of these alt-right incel FUCKS constantly dog whistling and spewing their shit across the internet is so ridiculously out of hand. The media is there to tell us the truth, and these fascists literally are trying to tear the truth down so that they can hope to influence ignorant people to their cause. The constant attacks on the media are disgusting and people who aren't as hip to the world as us on Resetera end up falling for the anti-media propaganda. This is NOT okay.

https://resetera.com//threads/%E2%80%9Clearn-to-code%E2%80%9D-the-meme-attacking-media.96416/post-17373075

I mean, it was obvious right?

Leadbelly

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« Reply #57311 on: January 29, 2019, 04:29:52 PM »
but it did for John Wayne Gacey! It's pretty impressive what he did for an ugly white dude.

There is an absurdity to the premise of this argument. We have to pretend there is an air of acceptability to doing incredibly heinous crimes just so long as you're white. Such an argument would not hold up to scrutiny.

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« Reply #57312 on: January 29, 2019, 04:30:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ted-bundy-wasnt-special-or-smart-he-was-just-white.96454/

Wait till they find out about Larry Bird!

It's almost like sociopaths have the ability to adapt to whatever social situations they're in at the time or something.  A common trait among them is that they'd be considered charming and intelligent if not outright magnetic to people until the mask slips.

But oh no, he was only successful at killing because he was white.  That has to be it.

Funny this was brought having recently watched the trailer for the movie. I thought the tone of the trailer was a bit weird. Although I'm starting to think perhaps it isn't now. Maybe it reflects the way some people saw him back then.
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=25046.msg2563276#msg2563276

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ted-bundy-wasnt-special-or-smart-he-was-just-white.96454/post-17374461
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That take misses the forest for the trees. Most serial killers are white. His charm and good looks are massively overblown though. He’s just less of a socially incompetent freak when compared to many other big hitter serial killers.

This guy makes a good point. Most serial killers are white. If Ted Bundy was a fat creepy looking guy who was socially awkward there would have been a very different response.

I think the movie is shot from his girlfriend's perspective, which is why the tone seems odd for a movie about a serial killer.  It reflects how she saw him instead of who he really was.

And yeah, Bundy wasn't a particularly handsome guy, but for a serial killer he's at about a 9.  There's a pretty low bar set for that particular demographic.

agrajag

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57313 on: January 29, 2019, 04:33:07 PM »
but it did for John Wayne Gacey! It's pretty impressive what he did for an ugly white dude.

There is an absurdity to the premise of this argument. We have to pretend there is an air of acceptability to doing incredibly heinous crimes just so long as you're white. Such an argument would not hold up to scrutiny.

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Jenkem

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57314 on: January 29, 2019, 04:33:40 PM »
People who just want you to stay woke get banned while marrec digitally murders trans people on the daily. This is why women and minorities are leaving the site in droves.

agrajag

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57315 on: January 29, 2019, 04:39:18 PM »
marrec and his charity theorem dog whises

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57316 on: January 29, 2019, 04:45:12 PM »
he could always  have a career in dressing up as a clown and abducting children!
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Is that sarah silverman?

shosta

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57317 on: January 29, 2019, 04:46:27 PM »
regarding that gif, that's an extremely frequent observation. supposedly her name stagename was Kelly Cornflake and that clown porno was the only one she ever did.
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57318 on: January 29, 2019, 04:47:27 PM »
Some of these dudes REALLY want this to be a race war. Like, really badly.



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shosta

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57319 on: January 29, 2019, 04:47:46 PM »
"dudes"? really?
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Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #57320 on: January 29, 2019, 04:48:10 PM »
Wanna see someone getting dogpiled for suggesting on waiting for more information?
The saga starts here
https://www.resetera.com/threads/empires-jussie-smollett-hospitalized-after-two-men-wrap-noose-around-his-neck-pour-bleach-on-him-this-is-maga-country.96410/post-17370717

Bonus points for ongoing "nobody is saying that waiting for more information is a bad thing, you not slick maga defending false flagging muthafucker" rhetoric

Wasn't kaitos one of the more prominent members in lgbtq+ gaf?

:lol

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57321 on: January 29, 2019, 04:49:45 PM »
"Ted Bundy wasn't special, he was white."  How about he wasn't special because he was a shitty serial killer?

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« Reply #57322 on: January 29, 2019, 04:49:48 PM »
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Sounds like a grift from a nation of professional grifters.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cure-for-cancer-within-a-year-israeli-scientists-claim.96391/

Yikes.
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57323 on: January 29, 2019, 04:49:49 PM »
I've been reading https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-are-some-examples-of-conservative-right-wing-leaning-films-shows-games-eg-ghostbusters.95831/page-8 off and on for days now and keep getting :lol from it


Most of the examples boil down to "focuses on white people doing things", many examples are satires or parodies that they didn't get, and so many are genuinely confused when the "political messaging" of a piece can be inconsistent because it wasn't written as a political piece but instead using influence from contemporary societal trends to build their story around, which often is "person in costume punches bad guys".

How can you write something without it having a political agenda :rage

If it weren't an insane amount of work just to rile people I would make a Problematic Games Wiki and systematically add every game in existence to it with solid reasoning as to why no one should be allowed to enjoy it
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57324 on: January 29, 2019, 04:50:15 PM »
"dudes"? really?

Sorry. I've been reading too many Marrec posts lately. :(

Uncle

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« Reply #57325 on: January 29, 2019, 04:50:55 PM »
"Ted Bundy wasn't special, he was white."  How about he wasn't special because he was a shitty serial killer?

FUCK I thought they were talking about Married With Children and it would be a topic about the kind of people who get sitcoms made of their lives
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« Reply #57326 on: January 29, 2019, 04:51:24 PM »
regarding that gif, that's an extremely frequent observation. supposedly her name stagename was Kelly Cornflake and that clown porno was the only one she ever did.



:smug

Jansen

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« Reply #57327 on: January 29, 2019, 04:51:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cure-for-cancer-within-a-year-israeli-scientists-claim.96391/page-4#post-17368396

Quote from: Anubis, post: 17368396, member: 5431
Tinfoil hat and all but I think they had the cure sometime ago.


Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57328 on: January 29, 2019, 04:54:12 PM »
"Ted Bundy wasn't special, he was white."  How about he wasn't special because he was a shitty serial killer?

FUCK I thought they were talking about Married With Children and it would be a topic about the kind of people who get sitcoms made of their lives



They did make the black guy buy the blacks-only Big 'Uns.   Some separate water fountain shit right there.

agrajag

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« Reply #57329 on: January 29, 2019, 04:56:51 PM »
regarding that gif, that's an extremely frequent observation. supposedly her name stagename was Kelly Cornflake and that clown porno was the only one she ever did.

(Image removed from quote.)

:smug

wait till you see the Kacey Cox scene with a midget genie

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« Reply #57330 on: January 29, 2019, 04:57:52 PM »
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Disgusting.. Tired of these alt-right incel FUCKS constantly dog whistling and spewing their shit across the internet is so ridiculously out of hand. The media is there to tell us the truth, and these fascists literally are trying to tear the truth down so that they can hope to influence ignorant people to their cause. The constant attacks on the media are disgusting and people who aren't as hip to the world as us on Resetera end up falling for the anti-media propaganda. This is NOT okay

If this was posted by red mercury or incelsheet it wouldn't be considered trolling. It is a perfect parody.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57331 on: January 29, 2019, 05:00:33 PM »
"Ted Bundy wasn't special, he was white."  How about he wasn't special because he was a shitty serial killer?

I thought that was implied by "he was white"  :doge

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« Reply #57332 on: January 29, 2019, 05:03:08 PM »
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Disgusting.. Tired of these alt-right incel FUCKS constantly dog whistling and spewing their shit across the internet is so ridiculously out of hand. The media is there to tell us the truth, and these fascists literally are trying to tear the truth down so that they can hope to influence ignorant people to their cause. The constant attacks on the media are disgusting and people who aren't as hip to the world as us on Resetera end up falling for the anti-media propaganda. This is NOT okay

If this was posted by red mercury or incelsheet it wouldn't be considered trolling. It is a perfect parody.

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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57333 on: January 29, 2019, 05:03:49 PM »
ivysaur saga:



what the fuck?

BisMarckie

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« Reply #57334 on: January 29, 2019, 05:05:19 PM »


wait till you see the Kacey Cox scene with a midget genie


Well, looks like I am going straight to hell. :rash

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« Reply #57335 on: January 29, 2019, 05:07:46 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/surprise-surprise-guess-who-is-mitch-turtle-mcconnels-biggest-donor.96453/

Just general level fuckery but I have a soft spot for it.

Oh wait, more Mueller softcore :

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Seeing Mueller lay the hammer on turtle cunt would get me more riled up with excitement than the daughterfucker.
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57336 on: January 29, 2019, 05:09:25 PM »
Justice, like a blue shell, ever should appear;
To few men ruin, but to all men fear

Propagandhim

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« Reply #57337 on: January 29, 2019, 05:13:26 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/surprise-surprise-guess-who-is-mitch-turtle-mcconnels-biggest-donor.96453/

Just general level fuckery but I have a soft spot for it.

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Seeing Mueller lay the hammer on turtle cunt would get me more riled up with excitement than the daughterfucker.

Not that I'm defending what's going on with Trump here, but this guy has been in the US for 50 years.  He's a billionaire - he probably just donates to conservative causes because of that.  Seems kinda offputting that they're implying anyone of Russian ethnicity, even if they've been a citizen of the US for 50 years, has traitorous motives. 

edit: err nevermind, he moved back to Russia sometime in the 90s, and then to England.

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« Reply #57338 on: January 29, 2019, 05:14:22 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ted-bundy-wasnt-special-or-smart-he-was-just-white.96454/

Wait till they find out about Larry Bird!

It had nothing to do with him being white, and it had everything to do with the fact that in the 1970's research into psychopathy was still in it's infancy, street level law enforcement didn't know what they were looking for, the technology of the time was lacking (no central databases, no street/traffic cameras, DNA, forensic psychology, etc), and law enforcement agencies of differing states weren't proactive in flagging suspected serial killings and did collate data with one another.

People paid attention to Bundy because crime coverage had just entered the television age, making it possible for the media to focus their attention on Bundy and allow viewers to be invested in the trial in real time, similar to how Scopes Monkey Trial was huge because of the trial was able to be broadcast on the radio.

agrajag

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« Reply #57339 on: January 29, 2019, 05:15:00 PM »
Yeah, I wouldn't want anyone of Russian origin to be placed under suspicion.

agrajag

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« Reply #57340 on: January 29, 2019, 05:17:43 PM »
I always thought that Bundy got away with it for so long because he was just a non-descript average guy, the tech wasn't there like cheeseburger said, and being a psychopath does require a certain level of charm. That's part of the psychological profile of a sociopath. This "Bundy was brilliant" narrative is news to me.

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« Reply #57341 on: January 29, 2019, 05:18:19 PM »
Justice, like a blue shell, ever should appear;
To few men ruin, but to all men fear
the only thing that can beat the blue shell is a horn

The dog whistling does work

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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57342 on: January 29, 2019, 05:22:30 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/surprise-surprise-guess-who-is-mitch-turtle-mcconnels-biggest-donor.96453/

Just general level fuckery but I have a soft spot for it.

Oh wait, more Mueller softcore :

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Seeing Mueller lay the hammer on turtle cunt would get me more riled up with excitement than the daughterfucker.

Not that I'm defending what's going on with Trump here, but this guy has been in the US for 50 years.  He's a billionaire - he probably just donates to conservative causes because of that.  Seems kinda offputting that they're implying anyone of Russian ethnicity, even if they've been a citizen of the US for 50 years, has traitorous motives. 

edit: err nevermind, he moved back to Russia sometime in the 90s, and then to England.

got one!

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« Reply #57343 on: January 29, 2019, 05:23:55 PM »
Yeah, I wouldn't want anyone of Russian origin to be placed under suspicion.

I have a couple friends of Russian descent that would be insulted if they donated billions upon billions to the Republican party and were looked upon with suspicion because of it.  Please check your ethnic profiling at the door, dude.  You have to do better.

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« Reply #57344 on: January 29, 2019, 05:25:57 PM »
Can we get a TVC Top 10 serial killer list?

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« Reply #57345 on: January 29, 2019, 05:37:41 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/report-mueller-investigation-close-to-being-done.96287/page-4#post-17358403

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Mueller doesn’t seem like the sort to announce when he’s on the vinegar strokes, more like the type to just pull out his ‘subpoena cannon’ with no warning and give Trump and the koopa kids a surprise justice bukakke, Peter North style.

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« Reply #57346 on: January 29, 2019, 05:50:53 PM »
I always thought that Bundy got away with it for so long because he was just a non-descript average guy, the tech wasn't there like cheeseburger said, and being a psychopath does require a certain level of charm. That's part of the psychological profile of a sociopath. This "Bundy was brilliant" narrative is news to me.

He did some things well. He spread out his murders so he'd be harder to track down, and managed to escape from a courtroom and stay on the lamb for multiple days. Then he managed to escape from his locked cell. The cell escape was impressive because A) it wasn't an act of opportunity and B) of all the people locked in that cell, only he was cunning/methodical/inventive enough to figure a way out.

In many other ways, Bundy was a complete fuck up. He introduced himself to a victim using his actual name in front of other witnesses minutes before he murdered her. He was smart enough for disguises... but kept the same car. He opted for a bench trial on his first arrest. He rejected the offer of life in prison during the jury trial, despite the immense public pressure for justice for the victims. He antagonised the judge during the trial. Once arrested and on death row, he still thought there was a chance for acquittal and refused to confess until it was too late (there was a chance that he could have avoided the death penalty by convincing the right people that he would be useful for psychological evaluation.)

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« Reply #57347 on: January 29, 2019, 06:01:33 PM »
I know people who met the man and I never really heard this "he was brilliant" BS;  he was known for being somewhat handsome and incredibly lucky.


thass what I'm saying. I never heard that narrative until this article debunking it came out.

Propagandhim

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« Reply #57348 on: January 29, 2019, 06:03:38 PM »
I always thought that Bundy got away with it for so long because he was just a non-descript average guy, the tech wasn't there like cheeseburger said, and being a psychopath does require a certain level of charm. That's part of the psychological profile of a sociopath. This "Bundy was brilliant" narrative is news to me.

He did some things well. He spread out his murders so he'd be harder to track down, and managed to escape from a courtroom and stay on the lamb for multiple days. Then he managed to escape from his locked cell. The cell escape was impressive because A) it wasn't an act of opportunity and B) of all the people locked in that cell, only he was cunning/methodical/inventive enough to figure a way out.

In many other ways, Bundy was a complete fuck up. He introduced himself to a victim using his actual name in front of other witnesses minutes before he murdered her. He was smart enough for disguises... but kept the same car. He opted for a bench trial on his first arrest. He rejected the offer of life in prison during the jury trial, despite the immense public pressure for justice for the victims. He antagonised the judge during the trial. Once arrested and on death row, he still thought there was a chance for acquittal and refused to confess until it was too late (there was a chance that he could have avoided the death penalty by convincing the right people that he would be useful for psychological evaluation.)

Was watching a documentary on that Philip Markoff guy, and his screwups were a short focus of the documentary: He was a summa cum laude med school student at Boston University and he did the same stupid shit:  never wore a mask in front of his victims that he didn't kill, and had no disguise found on dozens of hotel cameras in the areas he committed his crimes.   They said it was less an indication of lack of intelligence, but more a symptom of their narcissism and arrogant sociopathy.  Ted probably thought he was untouchable after like the 15th victim.

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« Reply #57349 on: January 29, 2019, 06:05:10 PM »
I know people who met the man and I never really heard this "he was brilliant" BS;  he was known for being somewhat handsome and incredibly lucky.

But why would anyone be surprised some docu-series exageraes?  LOL.. pro tip.. they all do.. do not walk away drinking the entire koolaid.. take a sip and do some googling.

There was a highly publicized video of the sentencing where the judge talks about how bright he is.  It probably became a feature onto the mythology of him.


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« Reply #57350 on: January 29, 2019, 06:05:11 PM »
Can we please have a thread revisiting the Blurred Lines video?

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« Reply #57351 on: January 29, 2019, 06:08:19 PM »
Can we please have a thread revisiting the Blurred Lines video?

I'd rather have a thread celebrating Eastern European gems, like this one:

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« Reply #57352 on: January 29, 2019, 06:11:07 PM »
Can we please have a thread revisiting the Blurred Lines video?

Frame by frame analysis please

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« Reply #57353 on: January 29, 2019, 06:11:23 PM »
Envious race-fetishist at work:

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When adjusted for White Mediocrity he jumps from painfully average to super handsome.

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I grew up in a world where President Bill Clinton was considered particularly handsome and JFK was a fucking heart throb. Famous white men exist on some completely nonsensical scale of attractiveness that is ceaselessly reinforced by the mainstream media. I can only speak as an American though, I have no idea what bullshit other countries get up to.

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apparently people being thirsty for ted bundy is a thing, which is even more difficult to process than usual as a straight dude

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« Reply #57354 on: January 29, 2019, 06:11:30 PM »
I know people who met the man and I never really heard this "he was brilliant" BS;  he was known for being somewhat handsome and incredibly lucky.

But why would anyone be surprised some docu-series exageraes?  LOL.. pro tip.. they all do.. do not walk away drinking the entire koolaid.. take a sip and do some googling.

Nah it didn't tout Bundy as being crafty or clever. It portrays it without bias. Bundy was well liked, didn't set off anyone's alarm bells, and once arrested Bundy tried his best to charm people, but occasionally the mask slipped, especially when he perceived that he was at the mercy of others (witness, the judge, his own lawyers).

Was watching a documentary on that Philip Markoff guy, and his screwups were a short focus of the documentary: He was a summa cum laude med school student at Boston University and he did the same stupid shit:  never wore a mask in front of his victims that he didn't kill, and had no disguise found on dozens of hotel cameras in the areas he committed his crimes.   They said it was less an indication of lack of intelligence, but more a symptom of their narcissism and arrogant sociopathy.  Ted probably thought he was untouchable after like the 15th victim.

Pretty much. His narcissism gave him enough confidence that he thought if he kept doubling-down over and over again eventually he'd win, and people saw that he was relaxed and probably wondered how someone who could be so brutal could be so "normal"
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« Reply #57355 on: January 29, 2019, 06:14:16 PM »
peak dahmer > bundy

but when dahmer hit bottom, he really hit bottom.

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« Reply #57356 on: January 29, 2019, 06:18:17 PM »
^ that dude looks lie a serial killer in the making

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« Reply #57357 on: January 29, 2019, 06:20:50 PM »
peak dahmer > bundy

but when dahmer hit bottom, he really hit bottom.

See, Dahmer is a guy you could claim white privilege for.  Dude's victim -- some indonesian kid, escapes one night and Dahmer catches up with him, who is now with the police, pleading for his life and completely disoriented.  Dahmer proceeds to convince the police that it's just a lover's quarrel, despite the kid being underage and panicking.  Brings him back to the apartment and injects something in his head and dismembers him.   Plus, like 90% of his victims were people of color.   

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« Reply #57358 on: January 29, 2019, 06:23:07 PM »
Can we get a TVC Top 10 serial killer list?
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Lets all rank them up.

1. Albert Fish
2. Chikatilo
3. John Wayne Gacy
4. Dahmer
5. Dennis Raider
6. Robert Pickton
7. HH Holmes
8. Bundy
9. Ridgway
10. Big boi Ed Kemper

Richard Ramirez was gay af.

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« Reply #57359 on: January 29, 2019, 06:24:29 PM »
Raidahs  8)
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