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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40321 on: October 29, 2018, 05:23:02 PM »
Was Hitler even a Nazi? Dishonest question. He did win democratically so he must have had some good points.

No, he did not win democratically. Hitler wasn't elected, he was appointed Chancellor by President von Hindenburg (under conservative pressure) on 30 January 1933. During the last free election in November 1933, Hitler's NSDAP only got 33% of the votes. The next (and final) multi party election was held in March 1933, after the Nazi dictatorship was already in the process of being established. And despite reprisals, the Nazi party only got 40% of the popular vote then.

Note: A much higher percentage of Americans voted for Trump than Germans did for Hitler.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40322 on: October 29, 2018, 05:32:51 PM »
Was Hitler even a Nazi? Dishonest question. He did win democratically so he must have had some good points.

No, he did not win democratically. Hitler wasn't elected, he was appointed Chancellor by President von Hindenburg (under conservative pressure) on 30 January 1933. During the last free election in November 1933, Hitler's NSDAP only got 33% of the votes. The next (and final) multi party election was held in March 1933, after the Nazi dictatorship was already in the process of being established. And despite reprisals, the Nazi party only got 40% of the popular vote then.

Note: A much higher percentage of Americans voted for Trump than Germans did for Hitler.
Yep I don't know why the lie that Hitler was elected keeps getting repeated over and over again.
Most murderous dictators weren't elected but emerged from wars, coups or were appointed to their roles by a failing state.
Even modern totalitarian leaders (Putin, Xi Jinping) were appointed. not elected. The elections usually come later to legitimize their rule.
Putin for example was already appointed as acting head of state before he was elected. They just needed to make it official.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40323 on: October 29, 2018, 05:38:46 PM »
Note: A much higher percentage of Americans voted for Trump than Germans did for Hitler.

Because America only has two parties. The national socialists won the election and formed a government through coalition as it is standard procedure for democratic European governments until today.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40324 on: October 29, 2018, 05:49:12 PM »
How much of the vote would Bowsette get?

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40325 on: October 29, 2018, 06:00:36 PM »
Oh I missed this, DigitalOp literally calls for violence with no repurcussion

Quote from: DigitalOp
My fellow Brazilian friends,

I fear the only tool you have left is violence. Please be smart and only use it when absolutely necessary.

You always have a right to defend yourself.

I hope the best for you all.


So brave of him to give Brazilians permission like that.  I used to think he was just a windbag but he's taking a stand.


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40326 on: October 29, 2018, 06:12:02 PM »
Is he a Nazi, though? Honest question. Obviously he appealed to the voting public, so I imagine he had some decent points on his platform.

I don't think he is. I mean, literal Nazi he can't be, he's very pro Israel lol. He may have fascist tendencies regarding being very pro military, but it's not the plataform he ran on. He is actually promising less government interference and giving more power to the Stated individually. The main reason people voted for him is due to his hard stance on crime. No one defends the shit he has said before, at most people say that he didn't mean it, or that he has changed. And indeed, there's nothing in his government plan that undermines minorities, take away civil rights or what we already have here.

But I'm not going to deny that he said some abhorrent shit before. I just don't think (and hope) that he's actually going to promote violence against minorities. Brazil is also a multi party system, so the president can't do whatever he wants.
Is it accurate to state that those who voted him in expect him to not act on heinous things he's said in the past because it wasn't specifically his platform?

I'd say so.

Greetings from the USA!

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40327 on: October 29, 2018, 06:42:56 PM »
Note: A much higher percentage of Americans voted for Trump than Germans did for Hitler.

Because America only has two parties. The national socialists won the election and formed a government through coalition as it is standard procedure for democratic European governments until today.

That's not what happened, though. Getting 33% of the vote didn't win Hitler anything. In 1932 Hitler refused to from a governing coalition and Hindenburg refused to make him Chancellor. Kurt von Schleicher (independent) became Chancellor in November 1932. After Schleicher's goverment failed, Hitler was appointed chancellor, without any new prior election. The way Hindenburg appointed chancellors was absolutely not standard procedure for democratic governments anywhere.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40328 on: October 29, 2018, 06:48:16 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/14345305/


Quote from: VirtuaRacer, post: 14345305, member: 13281
I have made a number of observations regarding moderation here that will not do me well to openly talk about at length. All I'm going to say is, I hope the Admin team continually review such promotions and strive to improve the situation in future. The recent 4K thread reinforces this observation. The thread received mod intervention cautioning members to stop the console warrior like language, but even after this warning we witnessed personal attacks and remarks similar to (paraphrasing) "Of course the advert is misleading...this is Sony we are talking about" go unchecked and valid, counter arguments from PlayStation gamers flagged for infractions and in some cases the user banned.

It's funny because in the Microsoft 1st-party thread several days ago, a number of members also expressed gripes about the standard of moderation on the forum, which strikes me as peculiar considering there are at least 3 very closely aligned Xbox moderators on this forum, including Xbox Ambasadors/MVPs. Such accounts were tagged at the old place so people could see their affiliations but the Admins here seem happy enough about the lack of transparency on this board.

On a lighter note:

[MEDIA=twitter]1056687832087949312[/MEDIA]

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40329 on: October 29, 2018, 06:51:00 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/14346292/

Quote from: Bundy, post: 14346292, member: 10875
Dreams for PS5 is all but confirmed. Best idea would be to pre-install it and sell it with every PS5 for free.

Do what most of us do and stay out of these threads. I mean, just take a look at the crossplay, 4K Ad or Gematsu visual novel threads. Just post "Arrogant Sony is back" or "Sony losing all the goodwill since 2013" and you are super cool these days.

Poor persecuted sonyponies
« Last Edit: October 29, 2018, 06:56:37 PM by Jansen »

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40330 on: October 29, 2018, 06:54:53 PM »


Quote from: SageShinigami, post: 14347144, member: 14635
I was wrong, lmao.  A permaban?  Yikes.

Quote from: Kolx, post: 14347649, member: 714
Did a mod seriously permaban virtuaracer because of that comment?

Quote from: Mezoly, post: 14349561, member: 2126
Unacceptable banning. That mod need to explain the ban.
I get that he had history but taking that particular post as the final straw is too much.

Quote from: Schmitz, post: 14350351, member: 1326
Farewell, people. I probably won't be posting here again.

Quote from: Kyser73, post: 14350426, member: 2879
So we get someone banned for openly criticising the moderation here at the same time as a thread bitching about having to use a USB or social media account to share images containing loads of warz language goes trundling on.

Yeah, so like I said, any suggestions?

:sabu

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40331 on: October 29, 2018, 07:29:06 PM »
bans are getting even more insane. Not shocked!

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40332 on: October 29, 2018, 07:33:02 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/14345305/


Quote from: VirtuaRacer, post: 14345305, member: 13281
I have made a number of observations regarding moderation here that will not do me well to openly talk about at length. All I'm going to say is, I hope the Admin team continually review such promotions and strive to improve the situation in future. The recent 4K thread reinforces this observation. The thread received mod intervention cautioning members to stop the console warrior like language, but even after this warning we witnessed personal attacks and remarks similar to (paraphrasing) "Of course the advert is misleading...this is Sony we are talking about" go unchecked and valid, counter arguments from PlayStation gamers flagged for infractions and in some cases the user banned.

It's funny because in the Microsoft 1st-party thread several days ago, a number of members also expressed gripes about the standard of moderation on the forum, which strikes me as peculiar considering there are at least 3 very closely aligned Xbox moderators on this forum, including Xbox Ambasadors/MVPs. Such accounts were tagged at the old place so people could see their affiliations but the Admins here seem happy enough about the lack of transparency on this board.

On a lighter note:

[MEDIA=twitter]1056687832087949312[/MEDIA]
(Image removed from quote.)

And people think the last post on a page doesn't get noticed. :trumps
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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40333 on: October 29, 2018, 07:42:09 PM »
It was unfortunately a long list of things that led to that ban. It wasn’t just what was posted publicly here.

yikes

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40334 on: October 29, 2018, 07:42:12 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/14346292/

Quote from: Bundy, post: 14346292, member: 10875
Dreams for PS5 is all but confirmed. Best idea would be to pre-install it and sell it with every PS5 for free.

Do what most of us do and stay out of these threads. I mean, just take a look at the crossplay, 4K Ad or Gematsu visual novel threads. Just post "Arrogant Sony is back" or "Sony losing all the goodwill since 2013" and you are super cool these days.

Poor persecuted sonyponies

It's cute they think Dreams is not vaporware. I dunno what the hell Media Molecule is doing, but they announced that during the PS3 era and it still hasn't come out.


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40336 on: October 29, 2018, 07:55:32 PM »
Was the original mission statement for Resetera "create video game forum/echo chamber with worse moderation than NeoGAF"?
Mission accomplished.

On a related note, I really hope that no developers in their right mind are tricked into believing that Resetera actually matters and represents any part of what gamers really want.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40337 on: October 29, 2018, 08:00:27 PM »
Note: A much higher percentage of Americans voted for Trump than Germans did for Hitler.

Because America only has two parties. The national socialists won the election and formed a government through coalition as it is standard procedure for democratic European governments until today.

That's not what happened, though. Getting 33% of the vote didn't win Hitler anything. In 1932 Hitler refused to from a governing coalition and Hindenburg refused to make him Chancellor. Kurt von Schleicher (independent) became Chancellor in November 1932. After Schleicher's goverment failed, Hitler was appointed chancellor, without any new prior election. The way Hindenburg appointed chancellors was absolutely not standard procedure for democratic governments anywhere.

Right, they then still needed a conservative coalition to install emergency measures before annulling thedemocracy, because it still happened under pseudo-legality and not some kind of coup or invasion. Either way, your persistence on discrediting his democratic victory makes no sense. 33% (let alone 37%) was a bigger majority than the current chancellor's (and many other majorities in multi-party systems), the German chancellor is still appointed by the president and theoretically the president still has the power to terminate the government/replace the chancellor. You vote for parties, but elections are still personality-driven and voting for national socialists obviously went hand in hand with voting for the Führer much stronger. The majority of the populace made him the strongest force in the parliament, so this wasn't a random military made chancellor based on nothing.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40338 on: October 29, 2018, 08:02:07 PM »
Was the original mission statement for Resetera "create video game forum/echo chamber with worse moderation than NeoGAF"?
Mission accomplished.

On a related note, I really hope that no developers in their right mind are tricked into believing that Resetera actually matters and represents any part of what gamers really want.

Devs have to keep one eye on resetera because it's the place your career starts snowballing toward its end if you hold any opinion or include any content that's not quite extreme left enough
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40339 on: October 29, 2018, 08:40:54 PM »
I'd say the correct way to handle this is to not engage.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40340 on: October 29, 2018, 09:01:41 PM »
Was the original mission statement for Resetera "create video game forum/echo chamber with worse moderation than NeoGAF"?
Mission accomplished.

On a related note, I really hope that no developers in their right mind are tricked into believing that Resetera actually matters and represents any part of what gamers really want.

Devs have to keep one eye on resetera because it's the place your career starts snowballing toward its end if you hold any opinion or include any content that's not quite extreme left enough

not really. the main console subreddits have more subs each than RE does total. r/gaming is at almost 20 million to RE's 40,000. they just don't have the numbers to have any real juice; they might jump onto a hashtag, but no movement or action has started as a result of their bitching. it's not accurate reflection of the general tenor of any issue, really, be it something regarding gaming or pretty much anythig IRL for that matter


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40342 on: October 29, 2018, 10:18:50 PM »
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/netflix-sabrina-the-sjw-witch.1467323/

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That's why you gotta keep voting straight R's or Conservative at the poll booth.



Think SJW media is bad now? Imagine in 10 years when the borders are made open to everyone.  The only culture left will be SJW.

 :doge

How do you even troll that?  Actually I bet it's the same way to troll Era.  Be a moderate darling.

Mission acquired.
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kingv

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40343 on: October 29, 2018, 10:21:30 PM »
What insider knowledge has zhugeEx ever provided? From what I can tell, all he really did on GAF was just post the same fucking npd rankings you could get literally everywhere else.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40344 on: October 29, 2018, 10:24:06 PM »
I'd say the correct way to handle this is to not engage.

Most people on Resetera will never be engaged to anyone

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40345 on: October 29, 2018, 10:28:08 PM »
when etiolate was allowed to post on The Bore, Jair Bolsonaro wasn't President of Brazil.

Just sayin'

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40346 on: October 29, 2018, 11:00:21 PM »
Was the original mission statement for Resetera "create video game forum/echo chamber with worse moderation than NeoGAF"?
Mission accomplished.

On a related note, I really hope that no developers in their right mind are tricked into believing that Resetera actually matters and represents any part of what gamers really want.

Devs have to keep one eye on resetera because it's the place your career starts snowballing toward its end if you hold any opinion or include any content that's not quite extreme left enough

not really. the main console subreddits have more subs each than RE does total. r/gaming is at almost 20 million to RE's 40,000. they just don't have the numbers to have any real juice; they might jump onto a hashtag, but no movement or action has started as a result of their bitching. it's not accurate reflection of the general tenor of any issue, really, be it something regarding gaming or pretty much anythig IRL for that matter

Being fair: /r/gaming has (and was?) default subreddit status. It's subscribed for ALL new accounts, the user has to manually go to the subreddit and then unsubscribe (or go down a list), which most folks won't do if they're making throwaway accounts for a one-and-done post.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40347 on: October 29, 2018, 11:18:04 PM »
was sabrina not ever like that?

they're all probably salty that they used to fantasize about being the football player boyfriend.


(holy shit how do i remember so much about this show)

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40348 on: October 29, 2018, 11:55:25 PM »
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Yikes City!

Quote from: Morrigan
User Banned (Duration Pending): Trolling despite moderator warning, long history of trolling

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14326467

I've been waiting 12 hours to see what that duration pending turns into.
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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40349 on: October 30, 2018, 12:13:44 AM »
comrade morrigan seems to be on edge recently i wonder why

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40350 on: October 30, 2018, 01:35:25 AM »
They must have cranked the no-fun allowed meter up to 11.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40351 on: October 30, 2018, 02:49:40 AM »
Was the original mission statement for Resetera "create video game forum/echo chamber with worse moderation than NeoGAF"?
Mission accomplished.

On a related note, I really hope that no developers in their right mind are tricked into believing that Resetera actually matters and represents any part of what gamers really want.

Devs have to keep one eye on resetera because it's the place your career starts snowballing toward its end if you hold any opinion or include any content that's not quite extreme left enough

not really. the main console subreddits have more subs each than RE does total. r/gaming is at almost 20 million to RE's 40,000. they just don't have the numbers to have any real juice; they might jump onto a hashtag, but no movement or action has started as a result of their bitching. it's not accurate reflection of the general tenor of any issue, really, be it something regarding gaming or pretty much anythig IRL for that matter

Being fair: /r/gaming has (and was?) default subreddit status. It's subscribed for ALL new accounts, the user has to manually go to the subreddit and then unsubscribe (or go down a list), which most folks won't do if they're making throwaway accounts for a one-and-done post.

That's not true, i signed up in february because i needed to ask a question in a single subreddit and that's still the only one i'm subscribed to. I also have /all, /popular and /random in the topbar but that's it.
I have never been subscribed to /gaming

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40352 on: October 30, 2018, 04:09:04 AM »
Was the original mission statement for Resetera "create video game forum/echo chamber with worse moderation than NeoGAF"?
Mission accomplished.

On a related note, I really hope that no developers in their right mind are tricked into believing that Resetera actually matters and represents any part of what gamers really want.

Devs have to keep one eye on resetera because it's the place your career starts snowballing toward its end if you hold any opinion or include any content that's not quite extreme left enough

not really. the main console subreddits have more subs each than RE does total. r/gaming is at almost 20 million to RE's 40,000. they just don't have the numbers to have any real juice; they might jump onto a hashtag, but no movement or action has started as a result of their bitching. it's not accurate reflection of the general tenor of any issue, really, be it something regarding gaming or pretty much anythig IRL for that matter

Being fair: /r/gaming has (and was?) default subreddit status. It's subscribed for ALL new accounts, the user has to manually go to the subreddit and then unsubscribe (or go down a list), which most folks won't do if they're making throwaway accounts for a one-and-done post.

That's not true, i signed up in february because i needed to ask a question in a single subreddit and that's still the only one i'm subscribed to. I also have /all, /popular and /random in the topbar but that's it.
I have never been subscribed to /gaming

that probably changed during the /all /popular thing. either way, the playstation sub has 4x as many subs as RE does total  Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40353 on: October 30, 2018, 04:22:53 AM »
Was Hitler even a Nazi? Dishonest question. He did win democratically so he must have had some good points.
Pretty sure hitler was known to have rigged the pols.
Because America only has two parties. The national socialists won the election and formed a government through coalition as it is standard procedure for democratic European governments until today.

That's not what happened, though. Getting 33% of the vote didn't win Hitler anything. In 1932 Hitler refused to from a governing coalition and Hindenburg refused to make him Chancellor. Kurt von Schleicher (independent) became Chancellor in November 1932. After Schleicher's goverment failed, Hitler was appointed chancellor, without any new prior election. The way Hindenburg appointed chancellors was absolutely not standard procedure for democratic governments anywhere.

Right, they then still needed a conservative coalition to install emergency measures before annulling thedemocracy, because it still happened under pseudo-legality and not some kind of coup or invasion. Either way, your persistence on discrediting his democratic victory makes no sense. 33% (let alone 37%) was a bigger majority than the current chancellor's (and many other majorities in multi-party systems), the German chancellor is still appointed by the president and theoretically the president still has the power to terminate the government/replace the chancellor. You vote for parties, but elections are still personality-driven and voting for national socialists obviously went hand in hand with voting for the Führer much stronger. The majority of the populace made him the strongest force in the parliament, so this wasn't a random military made chancellor based on nothing.
Look, we need to take care of some bookkeeping here. Hitler never formed a coalition government. He managed to outlaw the rest of the parties because the Social Democrats and Communists weren't yet allowed to form a Popular Front. (This was the only potential numerical coalition available in the Bundestag.)

What Germany had and this is endlessly important, was a negative majority in the Bundestag. The Nazi's and Communists were the governing "coalition" even though they were entirely opposed to each other and everyone else. Their coalition was that they were opposed to a functioning democratic government. The President (and prior Chancellors with his approval) had been ruling by decrees for years in Weimar (even when the Nazi's weren't or had like ten seats in the body) because of this situation continuing to increase in the Bundestag not just with the Nazi's and Communists but with regular everyday electoral politics disputes. At the same time, this failure meant that the democratic parties were being pushed out by two parties that wouldn't work together except in this regard. Legislation couldn't be passed. A government literally could not be formed.

Hitler's masterstroke was coming down from demanding the Presidency and claiming he would merely accept the Chancellorship and getting the center-right and center-left to believe him. Then they outlawed the Communists and barred them physically from the Bundestag, which gave the Nazi's enough of a majority to then outlaw the rest who didn't capitulate.

It's arguably one of the greatest practical electoral politics moves of all time. The Nazi's (and Mussolini also it should be noted) mostly played by the rules of the time and perfectly, they were legal sticklers because of the legitimacy it conveys. A lesson that many of their successor aspirants thankfully have never realized. (But Stalin did, hence, the Popular Fronts.)

Ok, Mr. Fun-At-Parties.

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« Reply #40354 on: October 30, 2018, 04:29:14 AM »

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« Reply #40355 on: October 30, 2018, 05:42:53 AM »


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40356 on: October 30, 2018, 05:44:52 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-era-minorities-how-do-you-live-in-a-country-that-hates-you.77516/
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Context: Jair Bolsonaro has been elect the new president of Brazil. Bolsonaro is racist, sexist and homofobic. You can Google his name to see all his rants.

I'm a gay man and I'm terrified.
How US ERA minorities are living on US since Trump took over?
It's more violent? You have to be more careful?
Tell me your experiences because I have no idea how my life will be now.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40357 on: October 30, 2018, 05:50:28 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-era-minorities-how-do-you-live-in-a-country-that-hates-you.77516/
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Context: Jair Bolsonaro has been elect the new president of Brazil. Bolsonaro is racist, sexist and homofobic. You can Google his name to see all his rants.

I'm a gay man and I'm terrified.
How US ERA minorities are living on US since Trump took over?
It's more violent? You have to be more careful?
Tell me your experiences because I have no idea how my life will be now.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-era-minorities-how-do-you-live-in-a-country-that-hates-you.77516/#post-14316247

Ah ah, we win again you greasy fat Yankees !
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40358 on: October 30, 2018, 05:51:10 AM »
oh, he's so cute: https://www.resetera.com/posts/14346397/
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People have a right to be pissed at the GOP, who are legitimately a terrorist organization.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14351385/
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Policing literally started to bring back runaway slaves.

the amusing part being IIRC, Athens used captured slaves from the other city-states in their day-to-day police force, though I imagine most other cultures saw a potential flaw in this plan

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40359 on: October 30, 2018, 06:02:42 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rpg-net-bans-support-of-trump-on-their-forums.77805/

So they are taking the reset approach. Talk about Trump 24/7, but any support is attacked and quickly actioned.

> not an echo chamber

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40360 on: October 30, 2018, 06:42:29 AM »
Was the original mission statement for Resetera "create video game forum/echo chamber with worse moderation than NeoGAF"?
Mission accomplished.

On a related note, I really hope that no developers in their right mind are tricked into believing that Resetera actually matters and represents any part of what gamers really want.

Devs have to keep one eye on resetera because it's the place your career starts snowballing toward its end if you hold any opinion or include any content that's not quite extreme left enough

not really. the main console subreddits have more subs each than RE does total. r/gaming is at almost 20 million to RE's 40,000. they just don't have the numbers to have any real juice; they might jump onto a hashtag, but no movement or action has started as a result of their bitching. it's not accurate reflection of the general tenor of any issue, really, be it something regarding gaming or pretty much anythig IRL for that matter

A lot of sites seem to agree that reset got the Subnautica sound designer fired, or at least were the catalyst for internal review, but that could've been woke Twitter at large
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40362 on: October 30, 2018, 07:02:28 AM »
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My husband came home tonight with a PS4 Pro from a local resale store that they told him was broken. Evidently the person who returned it said the fan stopped working and the unit was overheating. The place took it back but says they never witnessed it acting faulty but they couldn't sell it at full price. I guess my husband couldn't resist the $200 price tag and bought it after they showed him it working. I wasn't there at the time but I probably would have talked him out of it.

It's been working for the last couple hours at our house but I can't see why someone would return it to the store and lie about the condition. This is a store that ONLY deals in used stuff and they have a return policy that doesn't require an item be defective to get a refund IIRC.

But here it is, working fine. Husbando's justification is that if it's a broken fan or thermal paste he can just fix it. I think if it has/had a problem with overheating there's probably components that were irreversibly damaged but I don't know. The only game we have to test it is Bloodborne and that doesn't seem to be intense enough to really stress test the console. At $200, I don't think the deal is good enough to be worth the risk but I'll defer to you guys.
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It was turned on with the lid off playing Bloodborne. The fan hardly makes any noise at all but it seems to work it just isn't spinning fast. Fast enough to move air though. There's no game we own that will give it a work out and Wolfenstein demo is 20+GB.

It's moving air, but shouldn't it be moving fast enough to make at least some noise?
:doge

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40363 on: October 30, 2018, 07:07:16 AM »
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I did and I can't believe you used the anachronistic word 'Bundestag' instead of 'Reichstag' :ufup


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40364 on: October 30, 2018, 07:09:30 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-husband-knowingly-bought-a-broken-ps4-pro-for-200-should-i-be-mad-at-him.77816/#post-14368540

 :gamergate :what :confused

A week for "sexism" for a joke my grandmother would tell at bingo.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-husband-knowingly-bought-a-broken-ps4-pro-for-200-should-i-be-mad-at-him.77816/#post-14368487
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Whose money paid for it ?
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When you're married there isn't "her" or "his" money.

It's just her money.

    User Banned (1 Week): Sexist Joke

:exxy

How did that recent Al Bundy Hulu thread survive without a mass execution?

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40365 on: October 30, 2018, 07:13:51 AM »
At least some people on the second page are pointing out the obvious, that there's a good chance it was stolen and exchanged for cash. Though the OP has completely abandoned their need for ERA advice on whether or not to be mad and is focused instead on whether blame space died.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40366 on: October 30, 2018, 07:16:07 AM »
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/netflix-sabrina-the-sjw-witch.1467323/

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That's why you gotta keep voting straight R's or Conservative at the poll booth.



Think SJW media is bad now? Imagine in 10 years when the borders are made open to everyone.  The only culture left will be SJW.

 :doge

How do you even troll that?  Actually I bet it's the same way to troll Era.  Be a moderate darling.

Mission acquired.

He is constantly championing racial IQ at Gaf.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40367 on: October 30, 2018, 07:22:12 AM »
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/sony-forcing-japan-only-games-to-go-through-content-inspections-which-are-conducted-in-english.1467287/page-8
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Time to jump ship to xbox next gen. I'm already half way there with my recently purchased xbox x. Sony can fuck off with their sjw propaganda and their soy boy first party devs.

 :umad



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What if the reason is fear?

Imagine one of the loud SJW groups labelling PlayStation pedophile friendly because of one of these anime games and the label sticks with the media. The financial damages would be massive and recovering from a label like that would be a challenge. Maybe they aren't SJW, but are rather afraid of their social media power (they have proven how loud they can be).


Did Sony unified the certification department in the west? I can see no other reason for them to request devs to provide content description in English, but they still should have people that speak Japanese to deal with Japanese devs/suppliers/etc. Maybe its a temporary thing.


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40368 on: October 30, 2018, 07:25:54 AM »
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/sony-forcing-japan-only-games-to-go-through-content-inspections-which-are-conducted-in-english.1467287/page-7#post-253537319
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People decide who is toxic and who isn't. Everyone has freedom of speech here.  The "toxic" person has freedom of speech to say what they want, the public has freedom of speech to decide if they want to support it or not financially, and the corporations have freedom of speech to decide who they want on their platform representing them.


Again, freedom of speech doesn't guarantee you a platform, only the fact that the government won't file legal charges against you for the words that you say.  If every main hosting platform kicks you off, no mainstream papers/magazines want to publish you, and no payment services want to process for you, maybe it's because they all find you too repulsive to want to deal with, and that is their choice to make.  They have the freedom to do so.


What would the other option be?

'People' wtf does that mean?  Those who decide are a handful of billionaires (or their agents) who sit on boards of directors, American lawmakers, and the American military-intelligence complex.  The 'people' believe what they are told through official channels which includes things like the NYT, just ask Prof Chomsky about the propaganda state the US has become, or Assange about what happens when you use free speech to threaten power.


You really need to understand that your way of thinking leads to tyranny and continual war.


And again, Alex Jones was only targeted when he began to attack US military policy in the middle east and the propaganda campaign and aggression against Russia.  Do you find the questioning of those things repulsive?


+++++


The threat to peaceful existence and even existence itself has always been the way power tends to accrete more power and morph into to tyranny.  It is part of our collective nature.  Until now the only forces that have been able to check and reverse that process have been catastrophic events like state collapse, mass death from famine/disease, and large scale war (see The Great Leveller for historic context, + Capital by Piketty and Who Controls the World by Chomsky for a primer on current reality).  The framers of the constitution recognized this and tried to build in preventive measures, like freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion, the right to bear arms, representative democracy etc.  Our public spaces today are virtual, and if you close access to them because 'people' decide some viewpoint (right or wrong) is repulsive, then these freedoms are no longer freedoms.


anyway, I'll drop a couple of Orwell quotes and await your explanation of why corporate control of speech is a good thing.


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40369 on: October 30, 2018, 07:33:44 AM »
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/off-site-community-discussion-reset-etc-read-op-stay-civil-dont-make-it-personal-keep-it-in-here.1462647/page-102#post-253537214

Quote from: EviLore, post: 253537214, member: 4
It's a toxic environment operated by severely dysfunctional, incompetent people wholly unsuited for their roles in most cases. There is no impetus for change, no apparent interest in acknowledging or addressing concerns that are presented to the administration respectfully and constructively, and dozens of "what the fuck?" moments to justifiably criticize.


It's not going to improve, and you're going to continue getting frustrated and writing long posts about the injustices, incompetence, hypocrisy, protected classes, abuses of power, etc. etc., every day that place is still afloat.

Is he talking about Resetera or NeoGAF?   :doge
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40370 on: October 30, 2018, 07:39:18 AM »
Hard to tell hate sites apart these days.


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40372 on: October 30, 2018, 07:51:24 AM »
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/sony-forcing-japan-only-games-to-go-through-content-inspections-which-are-conducted-in-english.1467287/page-7#post-253537319
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And again, Alex Jones was only targeted when he began to attack US military policy in the middle east
So since the 1990's? Hell, he was one of the more prominent 9/11 truthers.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40373 on: October 30, 2018, 07:59:22 AM »
oh, he's so cute: https://www.resetera.com/posts/14346397/
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People have a right to be pissed at the GOP, who are legitimately a terrorist organization.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14351385/
Quote from: RedMercury
Policing literally started to bring back runaway slaves.

the amusing part being IIRC, Athens used captured slaves from the other city-states in their day-to-day police force, though I imagine most other cultures saw a potential flaw in this plan

And all of Era spoke, he's pretty woke (for a white bloke)
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40374 on: October 30, 2018, 08:30:28 AM »
RPGNet says they don't want to promote Trump, but make it clear that that is not a partisan pro-democrat or anti-republican stand and write a list of guidelines to prevent the userbase getting overtly radical or using that as a policy to attack each other.

Lo and behold:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rpg-net-bans-support-of-trump-on-their-forums.77805/page-5#post-14373395

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I think it's a good idea, but in practice it will only target overt Trump supporters, and most of them will wise up quickly to not be overt.

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5. We will not permit witch-hunts, progressive loyalty-testing, or attempting to bait another into admitting support for President Trump in order to get them banned. The mod staff will deal harshly with attempts to weaponize this policy.
This could backfire against users trying to get an obvious asshole to admit their views, these people like to dance around how they really feel. Obviously there are degrees, you can't have a whole thread shitting on one person, there is a line that people cross regarding that where enough is enough and a mod needs to step in and steer the conversation back, but you have to be able to ask someone point blank "do you support or not support X".

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6. It is not open season on conservatives, and revenge fantasies against Trump and Trump supporters are still against the rules.
And this, I don't know if they are just referring to violent content, if not it does read a bit like hedging their bets, but I get why they put that in there as to not have the forum turn on people on a dime.
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We’ve been out resetera’d?
Era doesn't take a political stance, at least the moderation doesn't. That the users lean progressive is just the makeup of the forum. This is a place for reasoned, civil debate, and hateful speech is not allowed, so Era doesn't necessarily target any political opinion, just some of it happens to be against the TOS.


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This is a place for reasoned, civil debate, and hateful speech is not allowed

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40375 on: October 30, 2018, 08:58:28 AM »
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5. We will not permit witch-hunts, progressive loyalty-testing, or attempting to bait another into admitting support for President Trump in order to get them banned. The mod staff will deal harshly with attempts to weaponize this policy.
This could backfire against users trying to get an obvious asshole to admit their views, these people like to dance around how they really feel. Obviously there are degrees, you can't have a whole thread shitting on one person, there is a line that people cross regarding that where enough is enough and a mod needs to step in and steer the conversation back, but you have to be able to ask someone point blank "do you support or not support X".
Plus there's the fact that they might lie and say they don't support X all while secretly supporting X or being nuanced in their views. Old Russkie technique.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40376 on: October 30, 2018, 09:14:44 AM »
RPGnet want to pre-emptively stop witch-hunts, progressive loyalty-testing, and attempting to ban bait because they ain't slick, we see them, they should say what they really mean, that post count though

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40377 on: October 30, 2018, 09:43:58 AM »
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5. We will not permit witch-hunts, progressive loyalty-testing, or attempting to bait another into admitting support for President Trump in order to get them banned. The mod staff will deal harshly with attempts to weaponize this policy.
This could backfire against users trying to get an obvious asshole to admit their views, these people like to dance around how they really feel. Obviously there are degrees, you can't have a whole thread shitting on one person, there is a line that people cross regarding that where enough is enough and a mod needs to step in and steer the conversation back, but you have to be able to ask someone point blank "do you support or not support X".
Plus there's the fact that they might lie and say they don't support X all while secretly supporting X or being nuanced in their views. Old Russkie technique.

This is so funny.  The guy is right - they should be able to ask what people support, but this board is incapable of allowing that kind of support or allowing the explication of those views at all, so they have to rule out the inquiry all together.   :lol  Only on Era is "Are you a Trump supporter" = Ban-baiting. 

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40378 on: October 30, 2018, 10:10:43 AM »
This is so funny.  The guy is right - they should be able to ask what people support, but this board is incapable of allowing that kind of support or allowing the explication of those views at all, so they have to rule out the inquiry all together.   :lol  Only on Era is "Are you a Trump supporter" = Ban-baiting.

In the context of an outright ban of "supporting Trump", those rules make a lot of sense, because people are indeed going to weaponise that into "Oh, so you are for _____? Just like Trump, huh? enjoy your ban" or even "Oh, you're not against ______ enough, huh? That's basically the same as supporting Trump, reported".

Obviously Era aren't going to adopt these policies, because
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We assert that hate groups and intolerance are categorically different from other types of political positions, and that confusing the two legitimizes bigotry and hatred.
means you can't just say "the GOP is an actual terrorist organisation" or "that NPC meme is the direct cause of radicalising white supremacists" or any other the other stupid shit routinely spewed out to avoid actually thinking about ideologies or challenging their own opinions.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| You ain't slick
« Reply #40379 on: October 30, 2018, 10:17:41 AM »
This is so funny.  The guy is right - they should be able to ask what people support, but this board is incapable of allowing that kind of support or allowing the explication of those views at all, so they have to rule out the inquiry all together.   :lol  Only on Era is "Are you a Trump supporter" = Ban-baiting.

In the context of an outright ban of "supporting Trump", those rules make a lot of sense, because people are indeed going to weaponise that into "Oh, so you are for _____? Just like Trump, huh? enjoy your ban" or even "Oh, you're not against ______ enough, huh? That's basically the same as supporting Trump, reported".

Obviously Era aren't going to adopt these policies, because
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We assert that hate groups and intolerance are categorically different from other types of political positions, and that confusing the two legitimizes bigotry and hatred.
means you can't just say "the GOP is an actual terrorist organisation" or "that NPC meme is the direct cause of radicalising white supremacists" or any other the other stupid shit routinely spewed out to avoid actually thinking about ideologies or challenging their own opinions.

Yeah -- I was referring to the userbase that is incapable of allowing it, not the perfunctory 'rules' that are never followed.  The userbase wouldn't allow it and that's the essence of the forum.   That's what makes it so funny: There's a rule that says you can't "ban-bait" and then defines it as basically asking, "Are you a supporter of ____"?   That wouldn't even make sense as a stated rule on non-mentally ill message boards.