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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #300 on: August 04, 2018, 06:37:40 PM »
Cindi, after thinking about I think it’s wrong to insinuate Black Panther had a message. That sort of thinking encourages FatherMike to continue watching these mediocre Marvel movies.

Good movies don't have messages. 

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #301 on: August 04, 2018, 06:49:42 PM »
Cindi, after thinking about I think it’s wrong to insinuate Black Panther had a message. That sort of thinking encourages FatherMike to continue watching these mediocre Marvel movies.

Good movies don't have messages. 

You’ve changed so much. I just want to help you. At the going rate, I’m not sure you deserve the title of Dandy, bud. I want to get you back to that.
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #302 on: August 04, 2018, 06:56:45 PM »
the message of black panther is clear, MBJ's hairstyle is great

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #303 on: August 04, 2018, 06:57:43 PM »
Name one good movie - other than The Dark Knight or the Fast and Furious franchise - that has a message?

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #304 on: August 04, 2018, 07:20:48 PM »
Name one good movie - other than The Dark Knight or the Fast and Furious franchise - that has a message?

The original Ghostbusters, a cautionary tale about the EPA.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #305 on: August 04, 2018, 09:27:06 PM »
Name one good movie - other than The Dark Knight or the Fast and Furious franchise - that has a message?

The original Ghostbusters, a cautionary tale about the EPA.

Coincidentally, I just saw the movie for the first time last week.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #306 on: August 04, 2018, 09:41:57 PM »
Are you 13?

Don't answer if assimilate is on

I saw parts of it growing up, but never the entire thing.

There's a lot of classic/popular movies that I haven't seen that I'm not proud. I could tell you stories.  :doge

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #307 on: August 07, 2018, 04:03:31 PM »
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That's hilarious. Didn't Kanye have a lyric about fucking light skinned girls?

How come black dudes get a pass for racism and misogyny? I don't get it. Is it because they're a POC with no agency?

They don’t “get a pass”.

If you want to shit on SJWs and left, at least learn what intersectionality means

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #308 on: August 07, 2018, 06:01:48 PM »
apologize to tvc, publicly

???

You mean Wrath?
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #309 on: August 07, 2018, 06:04:45 PM »
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That's hilarious. Didn't Kanye have a lyric about fucking light skinned girls?

How come black dudes get a pass for racism and misogyny? I don't get it. Is it because they're a POC with no agency?

This post is dumb and you should feel dumb. Black men get criticized for this often.

Also how is liking light skin girls racism? Do you realize by light skin girls he basically means light skin black women? You mean colorism right? Which many black women reguarly talk about?

Never mind that black women criticized MBJ for the very act you quoted. You’re a troll. And a bad one. Or very, very dumb.
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #310 on: August 07, 2018, 06:10:42 PM »
Name one good movie - other than The Dark Knight or the Fast and Furious franchise - that has a message?
Requiem for a Dream
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NTR

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #311 on: August 07, 2018, 06:17:27 PM »
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That's hilarious. Didn't Kanye have a lyric about fucking light skinned girls?

How come black dudes get a pass for racism and misogyny? I don't get it. Is it because they're a POC with no agency?

This post is dumb and you should feel dumb. Black men get criticized for this often.

Also how is liking light skin girls racism? Do you realize by light skin girls he basically means light skin black women? You mean colorism right? Which many black women reguarly talk about?

Never mind that black women criticized MBJ for the very act you quoted. You’re a troll. And a bad one. Or very, very dumb.

It’s funny because someone on ree brought up colorism and everyone in the other thread rushed to mock the term.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #312 on: August 07, 2018, 06:18:21 PM »
apologize to tvc, publicly

???

You mean Wrath?
no, fuck wrath  :pacspit

tvc was hurt when you left us. nobody hurts my bb like that  8)
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #313 on: August 07, 2018, 06:19:09 PM »
Name one good movie - other than The Dark Knight or the Fast and Furious franchise - that has a message?
Requiem for a Dream
ASS TOO ASS  :clap :clap
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #314 on: August 07, 2018, 06:19:31 PM »
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That's hilarious. Didn't Kanye have a lyric about fucking light skinned girls?

How come black dudes get a pass for racism and misogyny? I don't get it. Is it because they're a POC with no agency?

This post is dumb and you should feel dumb. Black men get criticized for this often.

Also how is liking light skin girls racism? Do you realize by light skin girls he basically means light skin black women? You mean colorism right? Which many black women reguarly talk about?

Never mind that black women criticized MBJ for the very act you quoted. You’re a troll. And a bad one. Or very, very dumb.

It’s funny because someone on ree brought up colorism and everyone in the other thread rushed to mock the term.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #315 on: August 07, 2018, 06:25:22 PM »
mr beaks alt  :thinking
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #316 on: August 07, 2018, 06:45:37 PM »
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That's hilarious. Didn't Kanye have a lyric about fucking light skinned girls?

How come black dudes get a pass for racism and misogyny? I don't get it. Is it because they're a POC with no agency?

This post is dumb and you should feel dumb. Black men get criticized for this often.

Also how is liking light skin girls racism? Do you realize by light skin girls he basically means light skin black women? You mean colorism right? Which many black women reguarly talk about?

Never mind that black women criticized MBJ for the very act you quoted. You’re a troll. And a bad one. Or very, very dumb.

It’s funny because someone on ree brought up colorism and everyone in the other thread rushed to mock the term.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #317 on: August 07, 2018, 07:08:47 PM »
Name one good movie - other than The Dark Knight or the Fast and Furious franchise - that has a message?
Requiem for a Dream
ASS TOO ASS  :clap :clap

WAS A BODY DOUBLE smh.  No message there. 

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #318 on: August 07, 2018, 07:57:00 PM »
Except asgard doesn't exist so they couldn't just film asgard backdrops

asgard is not a place it's a people  ::)

NTR

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #319 on: August 07, 2018, 07:59:23 PM »
Except asgard doesn't exist so they couldn't just film asgard backdrops

asgard is not a place it's a people  ::)

More like half a people

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #320 on: August 07, 2018, 08:10:00 PM »
 :dunno

are these the incels they warned us about?

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #321 on: August 07, 2018, 08:24:42 PM »
Except asgard doesn't exist so they couldn't just film asgard backdrops

asgard is not a place it's a people  ::)
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #322 on: August 07, 2018, 10:20:55 PM »
The dump I just took was so mighty that Killmonger’s going to have to send some of those war rhinos to Oakland to help clear the sewers.
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #323 on: August 07, 2018, 10:23:13 PM »
The dump I just took was so mighty that Killmonger’s going to have to send some of those war rhinos to Oakland to help Lear the sewers.

Only W’Kabi, the head of security in the Border Tribe could summon the war rhinos you FUCKING IDIOT GOD

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #324 on: August 07, 2018, 10:38:42 PM »
The dump I just took was so mighty that Killmonger’s going to have to send some of those war rhinos to Oakland to help Lear the sewers.

Only W’Kabi, the head of security in the Border Tribe could summon the war rhinos you FUCKING IDIOT GOD

Talk to TVC like that again

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #325 on: August 07, 2018, 10:40:34 PM »
Sorry, daddy  :(

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #326 on: August 08, 2018, 12:27:36 AM »


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agrajag

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #327 on: August 08, 2018, 12:29:25 AM »
no wonder it resonated with Neo-Cindi

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« Reply #328 on: August 08, 2018, 12:36:48 AM »
https://m.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #329 on: August 08, 2018, 12:55:08 AM »
I'll save everyone the 22 and a half minutes, this so-called Shaun fellow determines that yes, the "movie intended to be understood by children*" is absolutely alt-right propaganda and that Stefan Molyneux is as always the most convincing followed by Paul Joseph Watson.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #330 on: August 08, 2018, 01:09:50 AM »
People (mostly conservatives) that equate BP to pro-Trump or alt-right are lacking in mental fortitude.

Hurrrrr Black Panther is separatist hurrrrr despite the ending of the movie having him reveal to the entire world the truth about Wakanda.

Another example of the right taking black people and using us as puppets for their own twisted agendas.
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #331 on: August 08, 2018, 01:12:54 AM »
Even more embarrassing when a black person like Candace Owens parrots it without second thought.
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #332 on: August 08, 2018, 01:34:44 AM »
Oh, does her outlet have one I missed?

I almost accidentally put the video NTR posted in my post because lol if I'm actually going to watch any of these long ones rather than just grabbing them off the search results page. Though I am somewhat being drawn to finding out what Molyneux could potentially be talking about in front of his wall for 57 minutes unless it's a near real-time recap of the film. I should start it playing while I do TF2 YUM! Brands Happy Hour. :doge

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #333 on: August 08, 2018, 02:06:18 AM »
Oh, does her outlet have one I missed?

It’s on her official channel.



It’s so bad that I’m embarrassed to even post it.

I’m so mixed on Candace. On one hand she’s an opportunist that parrots conservative opinions about black people without second thought as seen in the aforementioned video.

On the hand there’s stuff like this.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1645562975492412&id=1593518174052711

So I think she panders but still has a good mind on her head.
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #334 on: August 08, 2018, 02:17:01 AM »
For benji for shits and giggles



Also find it funny how people think I’m alt right. Alt right hates religion lmao.

Look at that massive fucking pill. The red pill kills is probably the message.
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #335 on: August 08, 2018, 02:54:28 AM »
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #336 on: August 08, 2018, 03:20:15 AM »


 Alt right hates religion lmao.

:thinking

50/50

Half of alt-right is hardcore athiest. Abortion argues between them are hilarious. One side is for them cuz less black babies.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #337 on: August 08, 2018, 03:40:47 AM »


 Alt right hates religion lmao.

:thinking

This is one of the main defining features of the alt right.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3k7jx8/too-many-atheists-are-veering-dangerously-toward-the-alt-right

Those on the left are so hell bent on labeling anything they disagree with alt right that they don’t even know what alt right even is. Because they spend so much time in echo chambers, cutting off anyone for wrong think.

If you have an enemy at least learn what they are and what they represent.

This intellectual laziness is exactly how someone like Jordan Peterson can be labeled alt right by the left even though he embodies none of their qualities.
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #338 on: August 08, 2018, 04:57:05 AM »


 Alt right hates religion lmao.

:thinking

This is one of the main defining features of the alt right.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3k7jx8/too-many-atheists-are-veering-dangerously-toward-the-alt-right

Those on the left are so hell bent on labeling anything they disagree with alt right that they don’t even know what alt right even is. Because they spend so much time in echo chambers, cutting off anyone for wrong think.

If you have an enemy at least learn what they are and what they represent.

This intellectual laziness is exactly how someone like Jordan Peterson can be labeled alt right by the left even though he embodies none of their qualities.

That article you linked didn't include a single poll or study with a breakdown of what percentage of the alt-right is  made up of atheists, and I would be shocked if it's even anywhere near a quarter.

Also, too. Are you one of those people who thinks that "alt-right" = "self-admitted white supremacist"? Because by that definition, pretty much no one in politics is alt-right.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #339 on: August 08, 2018, 05:13:24 AM »
Not necessarily going with that definition but I think the last part is nearly reasonable. Generally everyone in politics was in politics before "alt-right" became a thing. You could even see during the campaign and into his term in office that they've shifted their views to follow Trump rather than stick to a laid out ideology. Other than the whole Dark Establishment/neo-monarchists part.

Most elected or similar politicians aren't alt-right so much as they are trying to lean their views to appeal to that segment of the base as it moves there. Look at Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio chasing after Trump on immigration for example.

But then I've never really liked that "alt-right" hasn't been locked down as meaning anything valuable. When it was neo-monarchists that made sense as a term, as they were an alternative "right" in that they rejected Republicanism. (Standard disclaimers about "right" and "left" obviously.) But it meaning xenophobic, immigration restrictionist, white supremacist, doesn't help, those terms already existed and those people already existed on the "right" for decades. Like Pat Buchanan is "alt-right" on everything including trade, police harassing the darkies, apologetics for foreign critics just because, and triggering the libs. But he's been around politics for fifty years.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #340 on: August 08, 2018, 05:22:30 AM »
For me it’s just been the ones who are all the things, but still kinda on the fringe and usually internet nerds and youtubers and the like

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« Reply #341 on: August 08, 2018, 05:31:49 AM »
I always thought of them as just younger, shittier conservatives who also happened to like anime.

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« Reply #342 on: August 08, 2018, 05:57:56 AM »
The original alt-right people were the Dark Enlightenment dopes. Then Richard Spencer jumped on it to cover up his standard fare white supremacy and bought all the URLs. Then it sorta spread to a kinda libertarian-conservative group that hates immigrants/muslims and often worries about transgenders and usually rather not secretly the gays too. I think initially they were calling themselves Liberalists or something like that before they roped themselves in. Then it just kinda became all the Trump supporters, especially the ones who were sorta ironically doing memes that transformed into actually supporting him.

Also, to see if Spencer still owned all the URLs like alternativeright.com and altright.com I went to his site and coincidentally with the Alex Jones stuff I noticed that this video is still on YouTube:

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I like how all these racists make dramatic, epic trailer music, videos like this, reminds me of this video:


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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #343 on: August 08, 2018, 09:22:23 AM »
The original alt-right people were the Dark Enlightenment dopes. Then Richard Spencer jumped on it to cover up his standard fare white supremacy and bought all the URLs. Then it sorta spread to a kinda libertarian-conservative group that hates immigrants/muslims and often worries about transgenders and usually rather not secretly the gays too. I think initially they were calling themselves Liberalists or something like that before they roped themselves in. Then it just kinda became all the Trump supporters, especially the ones who were sorta ironically doing memes that transformed into actually supporting him.

Also, to see if Spencer still owned all the URLs like alternativeright.com and altright.com I went to his site and coincidentally with the Alex Jones stuff I noticed that this video is still on YouTube:

 :hitler

I like how all these racists make dramatic, epic trailer music, videos like this, reminds me of this video:


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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #344 on: August 08, 2018, 01:06:02 PM »
I wouldn't say there is such a huge overlap of alt-right and atheism. Certainly the "new atheists" like Harris skirt the line with their "intellectual dark web," but I would hesitate to call Harris or everyone who follows him alt-right. That just goes back to labeling everyone you don't like/don't agree with. From what I've seen the alt-right and the ethno nationalists (where I do think there is a big overlap) pine and wax nostalgic for judeo christian values. They glorify things like the crusades, when the noble European took arms against the great Muslim scourge. While someone like Richard Dawkins might find church bells less frightening than "allahu akbar," traditionally he and other atheist figures had much criticism for all religions alike, if anything, the most for Christianity as it impacts the lives of these people the most. This is messy, but what I am trying to say is it's not intrinsically atheist to be super sympathetic and defensive over Christianity.

I would wager that there is a good mix of atheists and Christians that make up the alt-right. I will grant that there is a greater ratio of atheists compared to the general population, but that is because they are mostly young people. I would think younger leftists are mostly atheist as well. If anything the left, historically, is much more associated with atheism than the right is (think USSR, Mao, etc.) And lastly, to use a silly anecdotal example, GAF was very atheist-leaning, and I presume Era is as well. Now that GAF took a hard turn to the right, the Christianity thread is now more active than ever.

So now, I don't think there is some direct connection between atheism and the alt-right, Himu. Maybe there are some gray areas where they intersect. But I think we've done a poor job of defining what is alt-right. It seems like a catch-all term. Like, would you say Etiolate was alt-right? Or an alt-right sympathizer? On Era they would certainly call Etiolate alt-right. They'd probably call this whole forum alt-right. There's levels to this shit.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #345 on: August 08, 2018, 01:09:33 PM »
Oh, another thing. I think what we are seeing is that a lot of the alt-rights, new atheists, Harris fans, Peterson fans, they all exist within the "Free Speech Warrior" movement, but they aren't necessarily one and the same. There are even people who self-identify as socialists, but their main MO is to wage war against the SJW's. We have one of those on our forum  :teehee

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #346 on: August 08, 2018, 02:59:37 PM »
Optimus has never striked me as a socialist. He’s always been more interested in social issues than economic.
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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #347 on: August 08, 2018, 03:01:32 PM »
The bare minimum of respect I can give someone online is to grant them whatever they self-identify as. I'm not going to assume everyone is being disingenuous and posting in bad faith.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #349 on: August 10, 2018, 02:42:13 AM »
I actually caught that segment live, benji, it was a total trainwreck. Ari Melber got completely made into a giant dad as she just shouted over everyone and he had zero control over her. MED tried to protest that she wouldn't let him talk, but Ari with deer-in-the-headlights eyes meekly said that they're out of time and the segment was over. The best part was when MED said that she is a narcissist, like her Godking, and she accused him of using lieberal elite big college words.

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #350 on: August 10, 2018, 03:02:58 AM »
probably my favorite thing is MSNBC's framing it as "ON THE CHARLOTTESVILLE ANNIVERSARY" especially on the chryon the whole time

second is Candace immediately complaining she was asked to be on TV :lol

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« Reply #351 on: August 10, 2018, 03:04:37 AM »
probably my favorite thing is MSNBC's framing it as "ON THE CHARLOTTESVILLE ANNIVERSARY" especially on the chryon the whole time

second is Candace immediately complaining she was asked to be on TV :lol

she came in ready to wreck shit, the host didn't see it coming at all. I didn't even catch that Dyson called her a little girl  :lol

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Re: Black Panther and embracing its message
« Reply #352 on: August 10, 2018, 03:09:46 AM »
actually, my top favorite may actually be the host saying "all this arguing has ruined our segment boo hoo" when you know his producer is having an orgasm

you probably wouldn't have even heard him call her "little girl" if they had, as normal, cut the mics during the sign off, but they let her and eventually both of them talk over him signing off saying they were out of time

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« Reply #353 on: August 10, 2018, 03:18:43 AM »
he was too scared to cut her mic. Tapper-daddy would've dun it

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« Reply #354 on: August 10, 2018, 10:36:06 AM »
Candace :heartbeat
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« Reply #355 on: August 10, 2018, 10:37:07 AM »
she's an idiot

Himu

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« Reply #356 on: August 10, 2018, 10:44:09 AM »
But you can’t help but love her anyways
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« Reply #357 on: August 10, 2018, 10:45:49 AM »
I would fuck the stupid out of her

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« Reply #358 on: August 10, 2018, 12:47:26 PM »
that makes no sense

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« Reply #359 on: August 10, 2018, 01:56:21 PM »
no u