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https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1153989295407009793

so did she get her print copy signed?

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do you think Trump would sign it for her?
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I kind of feel bad laughing at the one with the copy of the book. She seems genuinely excited about this bourgeois electoral bullshit.

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Do you think the dude's banged them all, I say 2/5, maybe a little under the shirt action from a third.

I always heard (from multiple sources) that GOP side of the aisle is if you wanna get lots of "casual" sex that gets you in trouble with your bosses because the drama is spreading throughout the intern pool and tearing the offices apart.

Major state level government is so quaint and quiet in comparison.

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When my sibling took their meds they were a Republican intern for awhile but I'm not going to ask them about that.

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At the very least, Stalin was a more more talented poet than Lenin, whose sole contribution to the world of verse appears to have been an ode dedicated to the village where he spent his Siberian exile. It starts like this:

In Shushensjoe, in the foothills of Mount Sayan...

And then stops. Eight words in.
Good. A revolutionary has no time for poetry which does not advance the revolution. :salute

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Stalin's first revolutionary name was a character in a book. :brain

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I have a lot of disposable income, OK. :beli

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Do you think the dude's banged them all, I say 2/5, maybe a little under the shirt action from a third.

I always heard (from multiple sources) that GOP side of the aisle is if you wanna get lots of "casual" sex that gets you in trouble with your bosses because the drama is spreading throughout the intern pool and tearing the offices apart.

Major state level government is so quaint and quiet in comparison.

There was an article last year about how young people who work in the Trump administration can't get laid in DC.
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Well, of course not, it's more like a monastery of National Conservatism thinkers, I'm talking about the regular Republican Party here.

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Also the understanding of 'judeo-christian' as a selective white nationalist ethnic bloc rather than an anti-islamic ideological bloc is new to me. I strongly associate white nationalism of any stripe with antisemitism, would be interested in seeing a more academic breakdown of this.

The reason why this didn't scan with you is because it's bullshit. (Caught up on my eps today.)

Adam took a line of play (whiteness is a malleable concept) and stretched it out way beyond its capabilities when he made that claim. The first guest essentially invalidated it when she talked about how she was thought of as white until people dug up that she had a Jewish grandparent. He didn't even offer any evidence, he just said it like it was fact and proceeded from there. Seek truth from facts, Adam. :wag

BTW, I read that cursed Churchill speech or whatever about Zionism you posted about awhile back. Of all the people outside Russia that asshole has no excuse whatsoever for praising Denikin for being a friend to the Jews in 1920.


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Also the understanding of 'judeo-christian' as a selective white nationalist ethnic bloc rather than an anti-islamic ideological bloc is new to me. I strongly associate white nationalism of any stripe with antisemitism, would be interested in seeing a more academic breakdown of this.

The reason why this didn't scan with you is because it's bullshit. (Caught up on my eps today.)

Adam took a line of play (whiteness is a malleable concept) and stretched it out way beyond its capabilities when he made that claim. The first guest essentially invalidated it when she talked about how she was thought of as white until people dug up that she had a Jewish grandparent. He didn't even offer any evidence, he just said it like it was fact and proceeded from there. Seek truth from facts, Adam. :wag

BTW, I read that cursed Churchill speech or whatever about Zionism you posted about awhile back. Of all the people outside Russia that asshole has no excuse whatsoever for praising Denikin for being a friend to the Jews in 1920.

racial classification of jews always goes over my head

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no no I wasn't saying for Bible reasons, for cultural reasons, Israel has long been promoted as an American ally, so America First rubs off on it, similar to the UK's treatment now (ala Iraq) versus the first hundred some years of the country

they don't necessarily like Jews, and if they saw the actual population of Israel they'd like it even less for being so brown, but they like the concept of "Israel", especially as an American ally against the Muslims/Arabs/etc. it's "Western Civilization"

especially as a formative idea for people during a time when Nazism was especially bad for its actions in the Holocaust; you can attempt to ward it off by creating a "good Jew" exception of something like "but I support Israel"

American neo-Nazism/American First-ism/etc. and nationalism in general has adopted the strong American component of "solving the problem by sending it away" (ala Liberia) that the New World is founded in and in that they sometimes say Jews should go live in Israel and stay out of America/Europe/etc. as the culture was undermined their willingness to support genocide or other ethnic cleansing type actions by suggesting a "clean" deportation can be done; the realism of this policy has no bearing as much as a wall is supposed to solve a "problem" dominated by visa overstays, people are culturally tuned to not immediately turn to shutting down all immigration and deporting everyone in Fortress America if they can be offered a "nicer" solution, that's why the mythology of a CRISIS is essential to undermining that... cultural moderating factor

if pushed, of course the exceptions go away
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PCA clustering of likeness tends to place Ashkenazis very close to Southern Italians.
Disqualifying them from being white is just emulating Nazism. Otherwise Ashkenazis, and some Levantine groups look "white" to me, as opposed to the Middle Eastern vibe.

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Yes, that's isn't contradictory to what I'm saying. At a point in time East Europe and South Europe weren't white. And in my view above, some people outside of Europe would fall into the category of "white".
Am I parsing this wrong, since it seems to not line up with what I said. I meant that WN are vehement on disqualifying Jews from any definition of whiteness due to them literally being neo-nazis, not that any other party is partaking in nazi emulation.


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They're automating away Mandark's job. :'( We're screwed without universal basic income.

https://twitter.com/bobby/status/1155196344715415552

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I feel so attacked as a Slav and as a terminal Russophile. :doge


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I get that there's a nonsensical connect the dots arc of euro-american value hegemony to some greater historically blind judeo-christian values idea stemming from israeli allyship from the american state, i just agree with Kara that the notion of jewishness still doesnt fit neatly to whiteness. We've seen this with slavs and in the past, irish people or italians etc, but i don't see it ever fully making the leap since us white nationalism historically draws on antisemitism from a bunch of different sources;
oh, I didn't want to make that insinuation (and I didn't listen to whatever podcast) just to note that American versions of these groups have historical cultural factors that creates this seemingly paradox that European groups tends to discard

I could have saved a lot of idiocy by perhaps constructing it as a "the enemy (Israel, nominally Western) of my enemy (Muslim hordes) is my temporary acquaintance, and plus they're staying over there and we've gotta focus on the lesser races here at home"

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nobody is allowed to take any of my attempts at explaining the Jewish Exception and the Proud American Cultural Tendencies Towards Israel out of context or else this will be the posts that finally prevent from holding office, as you know they'll use their secretive massive funding for skin crawling networks to smear and destroy I, who are simply, a simple dispassionate AnarCat


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On the surface, Bregman seems like a typical leftist. He is an avowed social democrat

*looks around to make sure Bismarck is still gone* What a cursed string of words.

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You were not kidding about this plagiarizing Jason Hickel, Dmitri Dmitriyevich. :lol

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I remember an interesting Ha-Joon Chang talk where he spoke about the supposed decline of manufacturing in core economies. (A large portion of the companies I work with are domestic manufacturers.) The value of the manufacturing sector has declined in those countries because that's what mass production does, but he claimed the only core economy that actually lost a manufacturing sector was the UK. Big ups to the Tories for loving austerity that much. :brain
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I finally found the Praxis: Suicide Squad (DC Comics, 1987, colorized by Carl Gafford)











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Bolshoi - superspeed
Hammer - superstrength, also he has a hammer
Molotov - fat guy, who can...blow him self up? i dont
Sickle - superstrength, also she has a sickle
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Well, they name dropped Bulgakov.
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The guy who started Live Aid runs a company through Mauritius to suck money out of Africa now. :lol They don't even try anymore.

https://www.icij.org/investigations/mauritius-leaks/treasure-island-leak-reveals-how-mauritius-siphons-tax-from-poor-nations-to-benefit-elites/

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Inspired to make a meme while looking for an old political cartoon (like from the early 20th century).


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Evangelion 4.0: I Will (Not) Read Settlers



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Glenn Greenwald on Chapo. I still hate his voice, his contrarianism, and his fans but man, he did some good work with the Lula scandal. Great listen so far. I don't know too much about  politics but it sounds like a certain class are able to construct legal bodies and '''''''''investigatory forces''''''''' without too much trouble.

I couldn't help but think of the departed Assimilate when he described the archetypal Bolsonaro voter.
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Yeah, it reminded me of older episodes of the show. (At least older free episodes.)

A thing that kind of struck me is how he pointed out that political corruption follows democratization as a matter of course; it's a necessity to mediate various conflicts and inexperience. Of course it never goes away in some places like the U.S. but that's a different can of worms.

Would have liked a brief digression about how Brazil's political system was designed to be dysfunctional after democratization to ward off seizures of power but turning the tide against "governments built on the premise of distrust" should probably start with their consequences in the core (oligarchy, unaccountability, et cetera) before the periphery and semi-periphery.

Anyway:

Calling Dilma a badass for being a Marxist guerrilla. :leon

Calling his husband's party dogmatic. :kermit

Realizing that he doesn't know Felix and Virgil were responsible for the Carl Diggler podcast he went on. Chapo got better opsec than the NSA. :sabu
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here you go comrade

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Inspired to make a meme while looking for an old political cartoon (like from the early 20th century).

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Link to your patreon for furry commissions ?
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OK, the fuck is Settlers? Why are y'all so into it?


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OK, the fuck is Settlers? Why are y'all so into it?

http://readsettlers.org/text-index.html

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I still only skimmed parts of it.  :doge
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OK, the fuck is Settlers? Why are y'all so into it?

http://readsettlers.org/text-index.html

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I still only skimmed parts of it.  :doge
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Yeah OK I know what it is now and I'm too lazy to read all that #YesMandark

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It's a racial history of the United States written by an autodidact worker who was a Maoist and an ethnic minority.

It's pretty mean-spirited but that's not unwarranted when it comes to U.S. history.


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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #584 on: August 01, 2019, 01:52:55 AM »
Not going to attempt to forecast China but when the CPC had beef with Wal-Mart awhile back they surreptitiously unionized several stores, something I think we can all agree is no small task.

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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #585 on: August 01, 2019, 04:59:03 PM »
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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #586 on: August 02, 2019, 12:42:13 PM »
Why's this thread have a picture of Winnie the Pooh in a gimp costume?

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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #587 on: August 02, 2019, 05:52:44 PM »
Why's this thread have a picture of Winnie the Pooh in a gimp costume?

Don't praxis-shame.
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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #588 on: August 02, 2019, 09:19:42 PM »
Avakianites at it again :dead

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/19/los-angeles-police-informant-anti-trump-activist-protest

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During an 11 October meeting, the informant approached Antonio and said, “Are we gonna do like any freeway things again…or major things like that?”, according to a transcript of a secret recording.

“I’m not sure,” Antonio responded.

The informant then said he was interested in joining future activities: “I thought the freeway thing was pretty good.”

 :lol I hope this goober fleeced the LAPD.

Anyway, freedom of speech, assembly, and worship, 100% real things in AmeriKKKa am I right.

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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #589 on: August 02, 2019, 09:36:46 PM »
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In one case, police noted in a write-up that one of the activists was caught on the recording making a joke about the president, saying, “That’s an awfully hot coffeepot, should I drop it on Donald Trump?”

Thankfully, the tireless work of the LAPD managed to foil this serious plot in time. :salute
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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #590 on: August 03, 2019, 01:17:21 AM »
We have detected a login with your Ubisoft account from the following country and IP:

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Damn, the compradores are finally coming after me. :heh

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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #591 on: August 03, 2019, 09:42:21 AM »


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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #593 on: August 03, 2019, 01:21:47 PM »
https://www.talkingpoliticspodcast.com/blog/2019/175-talking-politics-guide-to-the-gilded-age

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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #594 on: August 03, 2019, 01:40:44 PM »
I thought combining the Bire‘s two favorite things, Juche and Yugoslavia, would net me more likes. :fbm

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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #595 on: August 03, 2019, 01:43:33 PM »
:whew benji's real YouTube channel is lit y'all.







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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #596 on: August 03, 2019, 01:44:34 PM »
I thought combining the Bire‘s two favorite things, Juche and Yugoslavia, would net me more likes. :fbm

Mistake rectified!

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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #597 on: August 03, 2019, 01:45:46 PM »

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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #598 on: August 03, 2019, 04:35:25 PM »
Avakianites at it again :dead

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/19/los-angeles-police-informant-anti-trump-activist-protest

Are there any known cases of cops infiltrating the DSA? Sort of the ultimate insult if they haven't bothered

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