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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41040 on: August 31, 2019, 06:24:26 PM »
So the new Joker film is getting good reception.

RE: These day of all days.

Propagandhim

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« Reply #41041 on: August 31, 2019, 06:24:37 PM »
first Etika now Alec...

REE needs to be stopped.

ResetEra bodycount: 2
8ch: 74

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Say what you will about Tyler, his forum never killed anybody  :ego

Just wait, someone on NaziGAF will post a racist manifesto and shoot a bunch of people by the end of next year.
I bet it'll be the topless Texan with the beard attempt.

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Okay so like

Does this turn out any better for Alec if Zoe goes to the police in 2014 and he's arrested and imprisoned for assault and rape.

What options should be taken here.

Zoey Quinn doesn't strike me as the I-got-raped-oh-well-I-wont-do-anything-about-it type. 

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41042 on: August 31, 2019, 06:26:15 PM »
Using his past abuse as an excuse for his alleged behavior is also pathetic, shit tons of people are abused and im sure the vast majority of them don’t go on to abuse other people because anyone with a modicum of empathy knows how shitty it feels to be abused and isn’t going to want someone else to suffer the way they did.  Ugh this whole thing sucks.

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« Reply #41043 on: August 31, 2019, 06:30:22 PM »
Eileen Mary Holowka, Alec's sister who bore the news of him passing away, has set her account on private.

Internet : Everyone loses. :fbm
No suicide?! Then the internet's work isn't done!

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« Reply #41044 on: August 31, 2019, 06:32:02 PM »
Zoe Quinn just accused two different men of shit after another woman called them out. It seems like Quinn is mostly worried about being called out for covering for abusers. I think Zoe Quinn would be more than happy to keep quiet on predators in order to advance her "career". I also think Zoe Quinn has a very loose definition of rape, a definition of rape which would define herself as a rapist. She also was accused of sexually assaulting someone at a wedding.

I have no reason to believe Alec was anything other than a creepy sexpest which is almost an inherit trait to soyboy male feminists. Have I missed some gory details or is it all just vague accusations?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41045 on: August 31, 2019, 06:32:45 PM »
Using his past abuse as an excuse for his alleged behavior is also pathetic, shit tons of people are abused and im sure the vast majority of them don’t go on to abuse other people because anyone with a modicum of empathy knows how shitty it feels to be abused and isn’t going to want someone else to suffer the way they did.  Ugh this whole thing sucks.

Might be a popular myth but I was under the impression that it's not exactly scientifically controversial to say that people victim of abuse are disproportionately likely to become abusers themselves. Not an excuse in any case but I think it's pretty relevant and pertinent info.
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41046 on: August 31, 2019, 06:34:16 PM »
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i was sexually abused and never thought to do it to another because when it was done to me i didn't like it so why would i do it to someone else?

 Sexually abused and have problems later in life?  :miyamoto


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While I can't speak to sexual abuse, I can say I was emotionally neglected and verbally abused by my parents as a child. Nowadays, I struggle with abandonment and conflict. I get bouts of paranoid delusions about people conspiring against me, and when they get bad enough I can lash out and act horrible to people I care about. When I see friends fighting, I get extremely defensive and my responses have ranged from siding with one and attacking the other to nope-ing out of a friend group and declaring myself to be horrible and that I'm "protecting" them from me by leaving. Some of my reactions have been highly abusive, even though they were done in self defense as a result of CPTSD.

That being said, I cannot imagine how being abused would lead one to sexual abuse, but at a guess I'd say it has to do with maintaining a feeling of control? Doesn't excuse it in the slightest though.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alec-holowka-night-in-the-woods-towerfall-accused-of-sexual-assault-update-alec-holowka-has-reportedly-passed-away-see-staff-posts-threadmarks.137449/post-24099221


Thems has a made up disorder because of verbal abuse and not enough emotional contact and they want to pretend like those sexually abused don't commit the violence done upon them?

Jesus.  The fucked up abused ones seem to have an issue with empathy on Era.
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Propagandhim

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41047 on: August 31, 2019, 06:35:31 PM »

Zoe Quinn just accused two different men of shit after another woman called them out. It seems like Quinn is mostly worried about being called out for covering for abusers. I think Zoe Quinn would be more than happy to keep quiet on predators in order to advance her "career". I also think Zoe Quinn has a very loose definition of rape, a definition of rape which would define herself as a rapist. She also was accused of sexually assaulting someone at a wedding.

I have no reason to believe Alec was anything other than a creepy sexpest which is almost an inherit trait to soyboy male feminists. Have I missed some gory details or is it all just vague accusations?

She used the term "sexual assault".  Which could be anything from an unwanted pinch on the ass to forced sex.  Was she ever explicit about it?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41048 on: August 31, 2019, 06:35:42 PM »
Using his past abuse as an excuse for his alleged behavior is also pathetic, shit tons of people are abused and im sure the vast majority of them don’t go on to abuse other people because anyone with a modicum of empathy knows how shitty it feels to be abused and isn’t going to want someone else to suffer the way they did.  Ugh this whole thing sucks.
Abuse isn't logical dog

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41049 on: August 31, 2019, 06:36:15 PM »
Pretty sure it is well studied that abuse begets abuse in a cycle?
For example, Night Stalker had a seriously messed up childhood.

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« Reply #41050 on: August 31, 2019, 06:39:00 PM »
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Ramirez was born in El Paso, Texas on February 29, 1960, the youngest of Julian and Mercedes Ramirez's five children.[3] His father, a Mexican national and former Juarez policeman who later became a laborer on the Santa Fe railroad,[4] was prone to fits of anger that often resulted in physical abuse.[5]

As a 12-year-old, Richard – or "Richie", as he was known to his family – was strongly influenced by his older cousin, Miguel ("Mike") Ramirez,[6] a decorated U.S. Army Green Beret combat veteran who often boasted of his gruesome exploits during the Vietnam War. He shared Polaroid photos of his victims, including Vietnamese women he had raped.[7] In some of the photos, Mike posed with the severed head of a woman he had abused.[8] Ramirez, who had begun smoking marijuana at the age of 10, bonded with Mike over joints and gory war stories.[9] Mike taught his young cousin some of his military skills, such as killing with stealth and surety.[10] Around this time, Ramirez began to seek escape from his father's violent temper by sleeping in a local cemetery.[10]

Ramirez was present on May 4, 1973 when his cousin Mike fatally shot his wife, Jessie, in the face with a .38 caliber revolver during a domestic argument.[11] After the shooting, Ramirez became sullen and withdrawn from his family and peers. Later that year, he moved in with his older sister, Ruth, and her husband, Roberto, an obsessive "peeping Tom" who took Richie along on his nocturnal exploits.[12] Ramirez also began using LSD and cultivated an interest in Satanism.[13] Mike was found not guilty of Jessie's murder by reason of insanity and was released in 1977, after four years of incarceration at the Texas State Mental Hospital. His influence over Ramirez continued.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41051 on: August 31, 2019, 06:40:33 PM »
Using his past abuse as an excuse for his alleged behavior is also pathetic, shit tons of people are abused and im sure the vast majority of them don’t go on to abuse other people because anyone with a modicum of empathy knows how shitty it feels to be abused and isn’t going to want someone else to suffer the way they did.  Ugh this whole thing sucks.

Might be a popular myth but I was under the impression that it's not exactly scientifically controversial to say that people victim of abuse are disproportionately likely to become abusers themselves. Not an excuse in any case but I think it's pretty relevant and pertinent info.
Maybe I've just read this into it, but his sister's statement seems to allude to this as well.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41052 on: August 31, 2019, 06:41:38 PM »
Reset has killed again? I mean come on.
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HaughtyFrank

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41053 on: August 31, 2019, 06:44:13 PM »

Zoe Quinn just accused two different men of shit after another woman called them out. It seems like Quinn is mostly worried about being called out for covering for abusers. I think Zoe Quinn would be more than happy to keep quiet on predators in order to advance her "career". I also think Zoe Quinn has a very loose definition of rape, a definition of rape which would define herself as a rapist. She also was accused of sexually assaulting someone at a wedding.

I have no reason to believe Alec was anything other than a creepy sexpest which is almost an inherit trait to soyboy male feminists. Have I missed some gory details or is it all just vague accusations?

She used the term "sexual assault".  Which could be anything from an unwanted pinch on the ass to forced sex.  Was she ever explicit about it?

She said something about him jamming his fingers into her and leading her around the room. I don't really follow how that works but that would be assault

Rufus

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41054 on: August 31, 2019, 06:44:31 PM »
Reset has killed again? I mean come on.
*Twitter

Nobody besides us cares about RE.

ResetBanBot

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41055 on: August 31, 2019, 06:45:19 PM »
Reset has killed again? I mean come on.
*Twitter

Nobody besides us cares about RE.
They're basically the same people, they feed into each other.

daemon

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41056 on: August 31, 2019, 06:45:30 PM »
Using his past abuse as an excuse for his alleged behavior is also pathetic, shit tons of people are abused and im sure the vast majority of them don’t go on to abuse other people because anyone with a modicum of empathy knows how shitty it feels to be abused and isn’t going to want someone else to suffer the way they did.  Ugh this whole thing sucks.

Might be a popular myth but I was under the impression that it's not exactly scientifically controversial to say that people victim of abuse are disproportionately likely to become abusers themselves. Not an excuse in any case but I think it's pretty relevant and pertinent info.
Maybe I've just read this into it, but his sister's statement seems to allude to this as well.

To me, it felt a bit vague. Felt like she was socially coerced into not speaking against the MeToo, but didn't imply the case in itself. He's probably done bad things. All freaking humans except for the resetera aliens do stuff they regret at some point. What we need to differentiate is between a bad experience due to partial mistakes by everyone and a constant abuse of power dynamics. They're like... worlds apart.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41057 on: August 31, 2019, 06:46:40 PM »
https://twitter.com/nesbot_feed/status/1167905519505272832?s=21

This thread did not last long.

What happened?  :lol

ResetBanBot

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41058 on: August 31, 2019, 06:46:47 PM »
She said something about him jamming his fingers into her and leading her around the room. I don't really follow how that works but that would be assault
Yikes, but also lol.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41059 on: August 31, 2019, 06:48:08 PM »
TLDR : Justice-by-Twitter is very suboptimal, but expect it to be a mainstay in everyone's lives for the foreseeable future.

Until some millennial makes the youtube equivalent of The Scarlet Letter or The Crucible I guess :idont

e: or some poor cunt tops himself I suppose

:fbm

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41060 on: August 31, 2019, 06:49:38 PM »
Meanwhile their Vault forum where the legendary threads go has nine threads in it after almost two years. I’m sure these things are completely unrelated.

Do you remember that time someone used a DREAMCAST to visit the site?
Do you remember? When they used a Dreamcast? REMEMBER THE DREAMCAST?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41061 on: August 31, 2019, 06:49:59 PM »

Zoe Quinn just accused two different men of shit after another woman called them out. It seems like Quinn is mostly worried about being called out for covering for abusers. I think Zoe Quinn would be more than happy to keep quiet on predators in order to advance her "career". I also think Zoe Quinn has a very loose definition of rape, a definition of rape which would define herself as a rapist. She also was accused of sexually assaulting someone at a wedding.

I have no reason to believe Alec was anything other than a creepy sexpest which is almost an inherit trait to soyboy male feminists. Have I missed some gory details or is it all just vague accusations?

She used the term "sexual assault".  Which could be anything from an unwanted pinch on the ass to forced sex.  Was she ever explicit about it?

She said something about him jamming his fingers into her and leading her around the room. I don't really follow how that works but that would be assault

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« Reply #41062 on: August 31, 2019, 06:50:03 PM »
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Yet again, someone kills themselves and the bad faith arguers blame Era because people are discussing a topic.

I didn't know Era had such a way with words.

You would think his colleagues or possibly his wife turning on him would be the catalyst.
:doge

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41063 on: August 31, 2019, 06:50:21 PM »

Zoe Quinn just accused two different men of shit after another woman called them out. It seems like Quinn is mostly worried about being called out for covering for abusers. I think Zoe Quinn would be more than happy to keep quiet on predators in order to advance her "career". I also think Zoe Quinn has a very loose definition of rape, a definition of rape which would define herself as a rapist. She also was accused of sexually assaulting someone at a wedding.

I have no reason to believe Alec was anything other than a creepy sexpest which is almost an inherit trait to soyboy male feminists. Have I missed some gory details or is it all just vague accusations?

She used the term "sexual assault".  Which could be anything from an unwanted pinch on the ass to forced sex.  Was she ever explicit about it?

Didn't she said that he put several fingers in her vagina and led her around as a puppet at one point ? That's kind of fucked up if true.

I don't disagree that sometimes the allegations will cover from rape through domestic abuse to toxic / bad relationships, sometimes down to level that might below any legal line (though reprehensible and unsavoury).

We can turn and return the problem endlessly but at the end of day it's not realistic to expect we'll be able to upscale the justice system to cover everything within a short timeframe despite the principles (specific accusations, right to defend, presumption of innocence, etc...) being objectively superior. It doesn't even cope with rape adequately as it is.
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Nintex

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41064 on: August 31, 2019, 06:50:51 PM »

Zoe Quinn just accused two different men of shit after another woman called them out. It seems like Quinn is mostly worried about being called out for covering for abusers. I think Zoe Quinn would be more than happy to keep quiet on predators in order to advance her "career". I also think Zoe Quinn has a very loose definition of rape, a definition of rape which would define herself as a rapist. She also was accused of sexually assaulting someone at a wedding.

I have no reason to believe Alec was anything other than a creepy sexpest which is almost an inherit trait to soyboy male feminists. Have I missed some gory details or is it all just vague accusations?

She used the term "sexual assault".  Which could be anything from an unwanted pinch on the ass to forced sex.  Was she ever explicit about it?

She said something about him jamming his fingers into her and leading her around the room. I don't really follow how that works but that would be assault
Sounds like something Hideo Kojima would come up with  :lol
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« Reply #41065 on: August 31, 2019, 06:50:51 PM »
Meanwhile their Vault forum where the legendary threads go has nine threads in it after almost two years. I’m sure these things are completely unrelated.

Do you remember that time someone used a DREAMCAST to visit the site?
Do you remember? When they used a Dreamcast? REMEMBER THE DREAMCAST?

:mike
I thought it was neat when I saw someone visit the ban site with a PS3.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41066 on: August 31, 2019, 06:51:17 PM »
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Alec Howolka, and Alec Howolka alone, is responsible for Alec Howolka's death. No one else. End of discussion.
Now do Epstein you fuck  8)

Did she know he was mentally ill?  I wouldn't foment a social media mob for my worst enemy if I knew they had depression issues.


ResetBanBot

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41067 on: August 31, 2019, 06:54:49 PM »
Man everyone is fucking depressed, it's no defense for anything.

Rufus

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41068 on: August 31, 2019, 06:55:21 PM »
Felt like she was socially coerced into not speaking against the MeToo, but didn't imply the case in itself.
Came off torn to me, like she knew he'd done something in the past, but also that he got better. Like she understands that he deserved pushback, but regrets that it was done publically (which caused him to be instantly abandoned by his peers).

VomKriege

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41069 on: August 31, 2019, 06:57:03 PM »
https://twitter.com/nesbot_feed/status/1167905519505272832

This thread did not last long.

What happened?  :lol

Thread was inflammatory (no sarcasm) and redundant. Apparently was deleted however, which is uncharacteristic for ERA. I guess the moderation would if possible avoid an Etika repeat and be "forced" to have a huge "metacommentary" going for a while. To be fair, discussion would be even less calm-solemn-dignified than it already is if they did.
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daemon

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41070 on: August 31, 2019, 06:58:11 PM »
Felt like she was socially coerced into not speaking against the MeToo, but didn't imply the case in itself.
Came off torn to me, like she knew he'd done something in the past, but also that he got better. Like she understands that he deserved pushback, but regrets that it was done publically (which caused him to be instantly abandoned by his peers).

gotta walk on eggshells and cover all bases. If she knew it happened the message would be quite more direct. She just said she believes victims, which is a position you're not allowed to ... not take.

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« Reply #41071 on: August 31, 2019, 07:01:43 PM »
There's no defense for Quinn not calling out everyone in her little black book after taking money from the public to combat abuse. She even founded an "abuse network", which she apparently leveraged as a personal army for her own benefit, with many former volunteers calling out Quinn for not doing anything to help anyone. She's talked about this shit for years, fighting the "missing step" and taking things out of the whisper network. Previous times where she's covered up stuff she responded with statements like "they weren't my stories to tell", well now they're literally her stories to tell and she kept them a secret.

What a fucking hypocrite, I'm shocked.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41072 on: August 31, 2019, 07:03:28 PM »
Imagine getting mad at people.

Propagandhim

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« Reply #41073 on: August 31, 2019, 07:04:46 PM »
"He has this move called the Aziz 'Ensnari'" - Hideo Kojima

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41074 on: August 31, 2019, 07:05:32 PM »
Felt like she was socially coerced into not speaking against the MeToo, but didn't imply the case in itself.
Came off torn to me, like she knew he'd done something in the past, but also that he got better. Like she understands that he deserved pushback, but regrets that it was done publically (which caused him to be instantly abandoned by his peers).

gotta walk on eggshells and cover all bases. If she knew it happened the message would be quite more direct. She just said she believes victims, which is a position you're not allowed to ... not take.
I think she alluded to him having done something before.

Did anybody screenshot her statement?


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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41075 on: August 31, 2019, 07:08:31 PM »
Using his past abuse as an excuse for his alleged behavior is also pathetic, shit tons of people are abused and im sure the vast majority of them don’t go on to abuse other people because anyone with a modicum of empathy knows how shitty it feels to be abused and isn’t going to want someone else to suffer the way they did.  Ugh this whole thing sucks.

Might be a popular myth but I was under the impression that it's not exactly scientifically controversial to say that people victim of abuse are disproportionately likely to become abusers themselves. Not an excuse in any case but I think it's pretty relevant and pertinent info.

Abusers are disproportionately likely to have been abused themselves, yes that’s pretty widely accepted.  But the inverse is not true, most victims do not become abusers.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41076 on: August 31, 2019, 07:08:36 PM »
Felt like she was socially coerced into not speaking against the MeToo, but didn't imply the case in itself.
Came off torn to me, like she knew he'd done something in the past, but also that he got better. Like she understands that he deserved pushback, but regrets that it was done publically (which caused him to be instantly abandoned by his peers).

gotta walk on eggshells and cover all bases. If she knew it happened the message would be quite more direct. She just said she believes victims, which is a position you're not allowed to ... not take.
I think she alluded to him having done something before.

Did anybody screenshot her statement?

It's in the ign article

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/31/night-in-the-woods-developer-accused-of-sexual-assault-dies

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« Reply #41077 on: August 31, 2019, 07:11:21 PM »
Felt like she was socially coerced into not speaking against the MeToo, but didn't imply the case in itself.
Came off torn to me, like she knew he'd done something in the past, but also that he got better. Like she understands that he deserved pushback, but regrets that it was done publically (which caused him to be instantly abandoned by his peers).

gotta walk on eggshells and cover all bases. If she knew it happened the message would be quite more direct. She just said she believes victims, which is a position you're not allowed to ... not take.
I think she alluded to him having done something before.

Did anybody screenshot her statement?

Not a screenshot but a copypaste

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Alec Holowka, my brother and best friend, passed away this morning.

Those who know me will know that I believe survivors and I have always done everything I can to support survivors, those suffering from mental illnesses, and those with chronic illnesses. Alec was a victim of abuse and he also spent a lifetime battling mood and personality disorders. I will not pretend that he was not also responsible for causing harm, but deep down he was a person who wanted only to offer people care and kindness. It took him a while to figure out how.

Over the last few years, with therapy and medication, Alec became a new person—the same person he'd always been but without any of the darkness. He was calm and happy, positive and loving. Obviously, change is a slow process and it wasn't perfect, but he was working towards rehabilitation and a better life.

In the last few days, he was supported by many Manitoba crisis services, and I want to thank everyone there for their support. I want to thank Adam Saltsman for staying up late talking with us and reminding Alec that there was a future.

My family has and always will be the most important thing to me. Please give us time to heal. We tried our best to support Alec, but in the end he felt he had lost too much.

I currently do not see a place for myself in games or on Twitter. I will not be looking at the responses to this post. I appreciate everyone who has reached out to me over the last few days. For anyone who is in a time of darkness, I encourage you to reach out for support. There are always people who will be there for you.

And right after

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And in case it’s not already fucking obvious, Alec *specifically said* he wished the best for Zoë and everyone else, so don’t use our grief as an excuse to harass people. Go outside, take care of someone, and work towards preventing these kinds of things in the first place.

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« Reply #41078 on: August 31, 2019, 07:14:05 PM »
Resetera is going to implode by 2020 and its going to be ugly.

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« Reply #41079 on: August 31, 2019, 07:15:02 PM »
The sister is clearly a card carrying member of the cult. She her soybro might be dead but she can still avoid getting cancelled herself due to affiliation (by blood) with someone who was cancelled.

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« Reply #41080 on: August 31, 2019, 07:15:42 PM »
Resetera is going to implode by 2020 and its going to be ugly.

Trump winning again (God I hope not) would be the end of that board.

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« Reply #41081 on: August 31, 2019, 07:18:08 PM »
The sister is clearly a card carrying member of the cult. She her soybro might be dead but she can still avoid getting cancelled herself due to affiliation (by blood) with someone who was cancelled.
...why are you like this? :doge

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41082 on: August 31, 2019, 07:18:47 PM »
Felt like she was socially coerced into not speaking against the MeToo, but didn't imply the case in itself.
Came off torn to me, like she knew he'd done something in the past, but also that he got better. Like she understands that he deserved pushback, but regrets that it was done publically (which caused him to be instantly abandoned by his peers).

gotta walk on eggshells and cover all bases. If she knew it happened the message would be quite more direct. She just said she believes victims, which is a position you're not allowed to ... not take.
I think she alluded to him having done something before.

Did anybody screenshot her statement?

It's in the ign article

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/31/night-in-the-woods-developer-accused-of-sexual-assault-dies

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IGN has reached out to Eileen Holowka for further details regarding Alec Holowka's death, but she made a specific mention in her original tweet that she intended to stay away from the internet for the immediate future,

Jesus Christ ign

Lol

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41083 on: August 31, 2019, 07:19:07 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe
Again, it's not the film itself that most upsets me. It's people's insinuations that anyone who has any sort of issue with its themes in this day and age is acting like Jack Thompson and insisting we want to censor anything or are stupid enough to think the film will directly brainwash someone into committing a mass shooting. Why does it upset anyone that, say, a black woman like me really doesn't give a fuck about this kind of film (beyond Joaquin) in the reality I live in?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joker-review-thread.138366/post-24100001
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daemon

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41084 on: August 31, 2019, 07:20:20 PM »
The sister is clearly a card carrying member of the cult. She her soybro might be dead but she can still avoid getting cancelled herself due to affiliation (by blood) with someone who was cancelled.
...why are you like this? :doge

At least he hasn't killed anyone.


Yet. Not so sure when he actually hacks the NASA and starts dropping rocks from the moon.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41085 on: August 31, 2019, 07:22:37 PM »
The sister is clearly a card carrying member of the cult. She her soybro might be dead but she can still avoid getting cancelled herself due to affiliation (by blood) with someone who was cancelled.
...why are you like this? :doge
Where did I lie? :idont

VomKriege

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41086 on: August 31, 2019, 07:28:12 PM »
Using his past abuse as an excuse for his alleged behavior is also pathetic, shit tons of people are abused and im sure the vast majority of them don’t go on to abuse other people because anyone with a modicum of empathy knows how shitty it feels to be abused and isn’t going to want someone else to suffer the way they did.  Ugh this whole thing sucks.

Might be a popular myth but I was under the impression that it's not exactly scientifically controversial to say that people victim of abuse are disproportionately likely to become abusers themselves. Not an excuse in any case but I think it's pretty relevant and pertinent info.

Abusers are disproportionately likely to have been abused themselves, yes that’s pretty widely accepted.  But the inverse is not true, most victims do not become abusers.

Disproportionately doesn't mean "most", just "more likely". Though I apologize if the term came out stronger.
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Nintex

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41087 on: August 31, 2019, 07:28:27 PM »
“Gentlemen, You Can't Fight In Here! This is The War Room!”
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Rufus

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41088 on: August 31, 2019, 07:28:56 PM »
Pure, unrefined cynicism is just ugly.

ResetBanBot

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41089 on: August 31, 2019, 07:29:04 PM »
I'm not the one who just took a shit on her freshly dead soybro, I don't see why I'm the bad guy. :putin

Nintex

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41090 on: August 31, 2019, 07:31:27 PM »
I'm not the one who just took a shit on her freshly dead soybro, I don't see why I'm the bad guy. :putin
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clothedmacuser

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41091 on: August 31, 2019, 07:32:36 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe
Again, it's not the film itself that most upsets me. It's people's insinuations that anyone who has any sort of issue with its themes in this day and age is acting like Jack Thompson and insisting we want to censor anything or are stupid enough to think the film will directly brainwash someone into committing a mass shooting. Why does it upset anyone that, say, a black woman like me really doesn't give a fuck about this kind of film (beyond Joaquin) in the reality I live in?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joker-review-thread.138366/post-24100001

Did the producers really not consider if Nepenthe gives a fuck about the film? 

 :batman
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VomKriege

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41092 on: August 31, 2019, 07:36:45 PM »
Quote
The controversy regarding the film's disturbing nature will likely be heightened by the fact that it stars such a well known character who has been attached to property that children identify with. I can see a few parents ignorant of the film's nature taking their kids to it. I heard horror stories about Watchmen, I can only imagine people's reactions to this movie.

:mike
Suicide Squad ? Dark Knight Rises ? Burton's Batman ? The film being rated R ?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joker-review-thread.138366/post-24100319
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Rahxephon91

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41093 on: August 31, 2019, 07:37:23 PM »
It’s funny to see Ree members act like this isn’t the outcome they wanted. They pile on, make posts about how someone should should be ruined, etc so quickly whenever news that someone may have a bad side to them. Even so slightly. This is what your cancel culture is. You have no moral Grey area you fucks. You do not understand that people are complicated and can be fucked up. You do not understand that judgement does no have to mean execution as well. This is what you fucks wanted. You don’t get to say “oh well he didn’t deserve this, he had problems too, this is horrible”. You people want to ruin someone’s life every single time.

I have no sympathy for these canceled culture fucks honestly. People are not a zero sum game like they treat them behind the safety of their computer screens.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41094 on: August 31, 2019, 07:40:00 PM »
edgy truth :brain

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41095 on: August 31, 2019, 07:40:04 PM »
Using his past abuse as an excuse for his alleged behavior is also pathetic, shit tons of people are abused and im sure the vast majority of them don’t go on to abuse other people because anyone with a modicum of empathy knows how shitty it feels to be abused and isn’t going to want someone else to suffer the way they did.  Ugh this whole thing sucks.

Might be a popular myth but I was under the impression that it's not exactly scientifically controversial to say that people victim of abuse are disproportionately likely to become abusers themselves. Not an excuse in any case but I think it's pretty relevant and pertinent info.

Abusers are disproportionately likely to have been abused themselves, yes that’s pretty widely accepted.  But the inverse is not true, most victims do not become abusers.

Disproportionately doesn't mean "most", just "more likely". Though I apologize if the term came out stronger.

No I get it, certainly no need to apologize this isn’t reeee, I was just thinking out loud about that first part of Alec’s sister statement that bothered me.  There is no easy answer as to what causes victims to become abusers, is it a way of recapturing a lost sense of safety?  Do they just lack empathy and want others to suffer like they have?  Is it a lack of a strong system of support at home?  I’m just a little bothered by the first part of her statement that’s all.  Maybe I’m nitpicking too much since it’s clearly a shitty time for her and maybe she didn’t realize that her words almost sound like an excuse.

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41096 on: August 31, 2019, 07:41:01 PM »
I keep drafting shit posts but really there's not much to say that hasn't been said.
I just hope sabrina Chelsea Handler is okay.

Nintex

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41097 on: August 31, 2019, 07:43:22 PM »
I admit, because of LEGO Batman and Marvel/DC Comic movies being what they are I can see why people think the Bat-verse is aimed at kids.

It has been quite a ride to turn all heroes into sanitized 'family entertainment' since The Dark Knight.
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daemon

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41098 on: August 31, 2019, 07:44:18 PM »
Mister Metokur is going to do a stream stealing my idea of this being a IRL depression quest. Where can I sue?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #41099 on: August 31, 2019, 07:45:11 PM »
It’s funny to see Ree members act like this isn’t the outcome they wanted. They pile on, make posts about how someone should should be ruined, etc so quickly whenever news that someone may have a bad side to them. Even so slightly. This is what your cancel culture is. You have no moral Grey area you fucks. You do not understand that people are complicated and can be fucked up. You do not understand that judgement does no have to mean execution as well. This is what you fucks wanted. You don’t get to say “oh well he didn’t deserve this, he had problems too, this is horrible”. You people want to ruin someone’s life every single time.

I have no sympathy for these canceled culture fucks honestly. People are not a zero sum game like they treat them behind the safety of their computer screens.

Someone ending up killing themselves over twitter allegations and the ensuing mob was always a likely outcome, and anyone on era pretending they didn't know that is a fucking goddamn liar