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« Reply #181 on: June 24, 2019, 07:04:56 PM »
https://kotaku.com/its-ok-to-not-like-evangelion-1835816937

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I think the opposite should be written tbh. Hating Eva seemed pretty cool for a long time, and then it was dying down and GL came out and fair or not people made comparisons and the backlash kinda got reignited again.

And recently of course "Literally everyone hates 3.0. If you like it, you're wrong." :doge

I've seen far more people needing to defend Eva than vice versa. Like, it's pretty easy to pick on the series. There's a lot of goofy and batshit stuff that is laughable out of context, and oh yeah who doesn't love a good "GET BACK IN THE ROBOT SHINJI!!!" meme reference.
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« Reply #183 on: June 24, 2019, 10:00:05 PM »
FTR the people complaining about the new dub are insane.  It's light years better than the amateurish ADV one and the Funimation one that emulated it.  There were numerous errors and gaffes in the original which are all corrected in this one, and they absolutely nail the tone in the intense and melancholic scenes (versus "yelling all the time" which was the only tone the ADV dub was able to pull off).

Recommended to give it a whirl.

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« Reply #185 on: June 25, 2019, 01:12:29 AM »
https://kotaku.com/its-ok-to-not-like-evangelion-1835816937

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I think the opposite should be written tbh. Hating Eva seemed pretty cool for a long time, and then it was dying down and GL came out and fair or not people made comparisons and the backlash kinda got reignited again.

And recently of course "Literally everyone hates 3.0. If you like it, you're wrong." :doge

I've seen far more people needing to defend Eva than vice versa. Like, it's pretty easy to pick on the series. There's a lot of goofy and batshit stuff that is laughable out of context, and oh yeah who doesn't love a good "GET BACK IN THE ROBOT SHINJI!!!" meme reference.

You are VERY young.

Between 1998 and maybe 2003 Eva was considered THE anime not named DBZ and Sailor Moon.. THE anime. It was ADV - *the* American anime company's - bread and butter. Emphasis on *the*.

We were told this was the greatest anime of all time. For a period of like 5-6 years.

It ended with a dude be told congratulations repeatedly because the creator had a nervous breakdown.

"Easy to pick on Eva"? You weren't there. This show stuck with people, for better or for worse. Why? Because modern anime begins and ends with Evangelion. There's pre-Eva and post-Eva. It is *the* major shift.

I'll just paste what I wrote on a friends facebook post when were chatting about Eva the other day.

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Evangelion is a classic example of something I like but donít exactly love. I recall for nearly half a decade it was regarded the best anime ever and I ended up getting an ending where people surround the main character offering congratulations. I like the character drama, the brokenness of their personalities, and the the mecha action but it remains in my eyes the most overrated anime of all time. Evangelion still musters strong emotions even years later it seems.

On a personal note, I attribute Evangelion with the sharp decline in Japanese storytelling after its release. Where writers were obsessed with throwing in random Latin words they thought were deep and cryptic mythos similar to Eva. They started to drift from classic storytelling and more into thinking that the more ďdeepĒ a story is (and by depth they meant a lot of confusing, esoteric elements that may or may not hold relevance to the main story) to be better than something well told.

All though it remains my favorite Final Fantasy, FFVIII is an example of post-Evangelion ďisnít this deep?Ē fuckery. Or, as much as I love it, Xenogears. Compare FFVIís near perfect storytelling to FFVII and VIIIís more convoluted approach and ask which one is better. You can tell they are clearly inspired by Evangelion even if itís just bits and pieces.

Ergo, Evangelion ruined Japanese storytelling.

Despite my criticism I still like Evangelion. My critique sounds harsh, and it is, but itís hard to separate how I like Eva and how I feel about its legacy.

Easy to pick on Eva? lol.
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« Reply #186 on: June 25, 2019, 01:16:56 AM »
2003 was 16 years ago

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« Reply #187 on: June 25, 2019, 01:24:11 AM »
2003 was 16 years ago

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« Reply #188 on: June 25, 2019, 02:01:15 AM »
Everyone's character matches from that quiz got likes except for my post admitting I got Asuka :fbm


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« Reply #189 on: June 25, 2019, 02:24:15 AM »
Everyone's character matches from that quiz got likes except for my post admitting I got Asuka :fbm

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« Reply #190 on: June 25, 2019, 02:48:01 AM »
Glen as Asuka is actually a perfect fit

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« Reply #191 on: June 25, 2019, 02:52:24 AM »
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« Reply #192 on: June 25, 2019, 08:57:44 AM »
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« Reply #193 on: June 25, 2019, 09:03:41 AM »
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Glen's on the bire, all is wrong in this thread.

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« Reply #194 on: June 25, 2019, 09:36:06 AM »
2003 was 16 years ago

Stole my reply. :P
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« Reply #195 on: June 25, 2019, 09:36:49 AM »
God's in his Heaven, all's right in the world.

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« Reply #196 on: June 25, 2019, 11:19:46 AM »
https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/24/18701179/netflix-neon-genesis-evangelion-kaworu-gay-backlash

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« Reply #197 on: June 25, 2019, 03:41:15 PM »


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« Reply #199 on: June 25, 2019, 07:40:52 PM »
Just a reminder that people were mad enough about Evangelion all the way back in 1996 to send death threats to the creators. Not much has changed since then.
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« Reply #200 on: June 26, 2019, 03:29:01 AM »
I am done with the series and the movie. The last act is the best part. I reject the controversy that the show falls off. The show dispensed with its pretense and embraced what it was actually about rather than cater to the viewer with one last cool battle for the fate of the planet. The instrumentation episodes, and the instrumentation scenes that made it into the movie, are some of the best purely psychological experiences to have ever been written for tv. And what genius storytelling, too. Inner dialogue is everywhere, but how many stories go to the extreme lengths of exhaustively explaining character psyches with methodical pairwise encounters, forcing them into the closest proximity possible, with no way to withhold secrets or their most intimate thoughts? This pure vulnerability and relentless mutual interrogation is just as intense as any of the near death experiences that happened during the rest of the show, and that is a high bar to match. The explanation of the hedgehog's dilemma was the perfect way to ease the viewer into this climactic confrontation. Fuyutsuki said (twice ::)) that man's greatest enemy would be man itself. Well, Shinji's greatest enemy ended up being everyone he was closest to (and himself). That's deep, yo. And not fake deep, but poignant and universal in multitudinous ways.

This is a flawless show and an indelible experience. It's one of those consequential pieces of art you will feel deeply grateful for having had the opportunity to experience. Like LOST.
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« Reply #201 on: June 26, 2019, 09:13:44 AM »
I am done with the series and the movie. The last act is the best part. I reject the controversy that the show falls off. The show dispensed with its pretense and embraced what it was actually about rather than cater to the viewer with one last cool battle for the fate of the planet. The instrumentation episodes, and the instrumentation scenes that made it into the movie, are some of the best purely psychological experiences to have ever been written for tv. And what genius storytelling, too. Inner dialogue is everywhere, but how many stories go to the extreme lengths of exhaustively explaining character psyches with methodical pairwise encounters, forcing them into the closest proximity possible, with no way to withhold secrets or their most intimate thoughts? This pure vulnerability and relentless mutual interrogation is just as intense as any of the near death experiences that happened during the rest of the show, and that is a high bar to match. The explanation of the hedgehog's dilemma was the perfect way to ease the viewer into this climactic confrontation. Fuyutsuki said (twice ::)) that man's greatest enemy would be man itself. Well, Shinji's greatest enemy ended up being everyone he was closest to (and himself). That's deep, yo. And not fake deep, but poignant and universal in multitudinous ways.

This is a flawless show and an indelible experience. It's one of those consequential pieces of art you will feel deeply grateful for having had the opportunity to experience. Like LOST.

You had me right until the end.

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« Reply #203 on: June 26, 2019, 01:49:36 PM »
Watched the first two episodes on Netflix last night, and boy is it looking good. The lack of Fly Me to the Moon is jarring, but if you've never seen the show before I can see it not being a big deal. Still got my Platinum DVD set just cause I was too lazy to sell it off.
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« Reply #204 on: June 26, 2019, 01:55:13 PM »
So if you all didn't notice.  There are still 14 different versions of the rei theme that play as the end theme, in place of the 14 fly me to the moons.  So while it's a shame they dropped it, they at least did it correctly.

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« Reply #205 on: June 26, 2019, 01:55:24 PM »
On Netflix Japan it apparently has "Fly Me to the Moon" for the ED.

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« Reply #206 on: June 26, 2019, 02:03:29 PM »
I mean I'm pretty certain Evangelion had a lot of non-minor canon details (including a whole plot of precursor aliens behind the Angels or somesuch) gated in a videogame (Girlfriend of Steel ?).

Yeah the overarching cosmic plot is a lot of window dressing to the actual drama when you start looking at it not as an excited when but it was a pretty big deal.

Evangelion 2 on PS2 is considered the first/only source for much of the entire original series backstory.

What's neat reading up on all it however is how much the fans had guessed correctly long before it released, but had given different names (as you would expect.)

The series and movies are definitely, obviously made "on the fly" but I have to be impressed at the overall consistency to the series' mythology given that.

How much of the mythology and plot were done ad hoc isn't really relevant; the fact that Anno was able to "fill in the cracks" so to speak with the PS2 game so definitively and in such a neat package speaks to a level of detail-oriented genius. Put another way, lesser writers may have felt "written into a corner." But not Anno, he tried (eventually) explaining (some) stuff anyways.

I bought that game for like 500 yen in Japan years back, I should play it.

Also, 3nd (pronounced like "sound") Impact on the PSP is a really cool rhythm game designed by Suda and Grasshopper.
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« Reply #207 on: June 26, 2019, 02:04:55 PM »
On Netflix Japan it apparently has "Fly Me to the Moon" for the ED.

Yeah, this has happened a number of times before, with an anime series using an English-language song in Japan but the American release having to change it because of differences in licensing fees between countries.
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« Reply #208 on: June 26, 2019, 02:10:12 PM »
On Netflix Japan it apparently has "Fly Me to the Moon" for the ED.

Yeah, this has happened a number of times before, with an anime series using an English-language song in Japan but the American release having to change it because of differences in licensing fees between countries.

Yep, this happened with Zeta Gundam's opening songs since Neil Sedaka has the rights. At least with that situation Bandai Entertainment told people about it ahead of time.



And cause I'm such a Gundam nerd who also loves 45s, I own the original singles.

I can't remember what show it was, but there was a mid-00s anime that licensed the original opening song for the first episode but then never used it again throughout the show.
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« Reply #209 on: June 26, 2019, 02:10:16 PM »
Found a fanedited Blu-ray rip of the series paired with the original dub... decisions decisions.
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« Reply #210 on: June 26, 2019, 03:48:27 PM »
Started to watch an older version, in Japanese, subbed.  :expert

Because the dub was really fucking with my brain, every sentence was so fucking weird, when the subs are just fine.

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« Reply #211 on: June 26, 2019, 03:50:39 PM »
Evangelion in English.

Just...why?
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« Reply #212 on: June 26, 2019, 03:56:37 PM »
Evangelion in English.

Just...why?

The new dub is legit good, they actually act this time.  Give it 4 eps, like me, you will probably still prefer the Japanese, but anything you're hearing about this being bad is downright nonsense, and people are too blinded by nostalgia, and some terminology they don't like to realize they are full of shit.

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« Reply #213 on: June 26, 2019, 04:04:31 PM »
Evangelion's dub was never considered Bebop level. It was tolerable at best. So I agree there.
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« Reply #214 on: June 26, 2019, 04:26:12 PM »
btw i wasn't talking about the English dub.

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« Reply #215 on: June 26, 2019, 04:27:05 PM »
The low points of the original dub are like 4kids level janitor pulled out of the closet to act stuff but I still like it.

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« Reply #216 on: June 26, 2019, 05:07:20 PM »
People might be reading this thread and thinking to themselves, "Look at these fools relitigating which anime is better than another, war never changes," but I'm proud that people feel comfortable talking about watching dubs now even though it's incorrect action and they aren't catching flak.

Tolerance and progress. :preach

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« Reply #217 on: June 26, 2019, 05:17:34 PM »
Are there any good clips of the new dub?
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« Reply #218 on: June 26, 2019, 05:17:34 PM »
Evangelion in English.

Just...why?

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« Reply #219 on: June 26, 2019, 06:08:05 PM »
People might be reading this thread and thinking to themselves, "Look at these fools relitigating which anime is better than another, war never changes," but I'm proud that people feel comfortable talking about watching dubs now even though it's incorrect action and they aren't catching flak.

Tolerance and progress. :preach
I never watch dub for movies tbh, but for animated TV stuff, i don't care much.

Anyway, i'm 5 episodes in, and so far the only character i like is Misato.
Oh and Shinji's buddies are alright i guess.
Rei is probably the one i dislike the most, but maybe she's like that because Shinji's father is perving on her, so i won't judge yet.  :doge
Through osmosis, i got that everybody hates Shinji for being a bitch, but so far, his reaction seemed fairly reasonable to me, guy got basically scammed into the frontline.

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« Reply #220 on: June 26, 2019, 06:11:03 PM »
The episode where Shinji comes back after quitting and takes it to that angel that had beaten Asuka and Rei is hype as fuck.

Probably my favorite episode.
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« Reply #221 on: June 26, 2019, 06:12:39 PM »
People might be reading this thread and thinking to themselves, "Look at these fools relitigating which anime is better than another, war never changes," but I'm proud that people feel comfortable talking about watching dubs now even though it's incorrect action and they aren't catching flak.

Tolerance and progress. :preach
I never watch dub for movies tbh, but for animated TV stuff, i don't care much.

Anyway, i'm 5 episodes in, and so far the only character i like is Misato.
Oh and Shinji's buddies are alright i guess.
Rei is probably the one i dislike the most, but maybe she's like that because Shinji's father is perving on her, so i won't judge yet.  :doge
Through osmosis, i got that everybody hates Shinji for being a bitch, but so far, his reaction seemed fairly reasonable to me, guy got basically scammed into the frontline.

Kaji, Misato, and Asuka are the best characters imo.
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« Reply #222 on: June 26, 2019, 06:14:36 PM »
i'd just like to share that i find eva to be one of the greatest crowning achievements in any medium and i'm excited for anybody who has a chance to experience it for the first time even if the netflix version is significantly less gay

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« Reply #223 on: June 26, 2019, 06:23:24 PM »
Evangelion in English.

Just...why?

Wait this is a good point... I made myself wait for the 3.33 dub but I forget why... And I carried that attitude forward to today, when deciding which English dub to (re)watch the series with... But I've realized that I'm more of a purist about artistic media than when I committed to waiting for Funimation to put out 3.33, and that honestly, the original (sub) is the closest to the author's intent. In exploring Satoshi Kon's works, I didn't hesitate to go subtitled, and I suppose I owe Anno the same courtesy.

Japanese audio with English subtitles on Netflix it is.
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« Reply #224 on: June 26, 2019, 06:23:57 PM »
I like the episode where Shinji and Asuka have to train with DDR.
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« Reply #225 on: June 26, 2019, 06:29:05 PM »
Iíve never heard either English dub for Evanagelion, I just default to the native language for whatever it is Iím watching, unless Iím watching it (ie. Ghibli stuff) with my daughter who isnít a quick enough reader yet to handle subtitles.

Bebopís dub is solid as fuck and works very well, but Koichi Yamadera (who is also Kaji), Megumi Hayashibara (and Rei) and Unsho Ishizkua ARE the defacto crew of the Bebop for me.
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« Reply #226 on: June 26, 2019, 07:22:10 PM »
Sometimes I watch dubbed, sometimes subbed. Mostly subbed. If I think the dub is as good if not better (DBZ Kai) then I watch in English. But mostly I watch any foreign film as intended. The idea of dubbing over Seven Samurai for instance makes me shudder.

I used to be elitist about it but these days Iím relaxed.

Itís just how I prefer to experience foreign media. Whenever America exports something to Saudi Arabia or Japan they tend to watch in English with subtitles. I have talked to numerous online friends from foreign nations, including Wrath, who have told me they learned English by watching our media because it was that prevalent. I feel itís only respectful to see what other nations that donít speak our language intended creatively as well.

I also watch depending on immersion level. Like, something like Metal Gear, which mostly stars American characters involving American conflicts just makes sense to me to play in English. But if Iím watching Ghost in the Shell itís Japanese all the way. If Iím watching something in feudal Japan, it will never be English. Never. Gundam, English. The new Blade Runner Watanabe anime, also English.

So yeah, for me it mostly depends on how I want to experience it as an artistic medium. It really depends.
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« Reply #227 on: June 26, 2019, 08:24:01 PM »
I don't care if people prefer dubs, that's their choice. Just let me watch the movie/show in the language it was originally made in. Videogames, however, don't bug me as much, especially since we don't always get the option.

Gundam in English is weird as fuck since it's basically gigantic metal samurai. Those names sound even more ridiculous.

Also, the Netflix English subs are a bit stilted from personal experience. Not that a more direct translation is bad, but it may come off as weird in a few key scenes.

They are definitely weird in that kind of "no native English speaker actually talks like this" way.

My first experience with Eva was the original ADV single DVD releases that took FORREEEEVVVEEEER to come out starting in 1999. Definitely not the best way to watch the show.
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« Reply #228 on: June 26, 2019, 08:44:00 PM »
Eva is one of those cultural corner stone things like Citizen kane where it impacts media after its release. In Evaís case it goes for the worse. Like I said before, it ruined Japanese storytelling in a big way. But the monster of the week formula works and it really has that going for it.

I might rewatch now that itís on Netflix and see if my opinion on it has changed any.

Itís still very muchĒI like it but fuck its legacy.Ē
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« Reply #229 on: June 26, 2019, 08:56:29 PM »
counterpoint: eva influencing every Japanese game dev and anime studio to randomly throw in a bunch of random religious imagery was cool and good. throwback to reading thirty paragraph connect the dots bullshit posts on the xenosaga gamefaqs subs when I was 12 :lawd

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« Reply #230 on: June 26, 2019, 09:04:31 PM »
guys, without evangelion, would we even have bible black? talk about a truly influential legacy.

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« Reply #231 on: June 26, 2019, 09:06:03 PM »
counterpoint: eva influencing every Japanese game dev and anime studio to randomly throw in a bunch of random religious imagery was cool and good. throwback to reading thirty paragraph connect the dots bullshit posts on the xenosaga gamefaqs subs when I was 12 :lawd

This is why XS was shit and an example of what I'm talking about.

post-Eva japanese storytelling is basically equating convoluted story telling as good. Oh, you need to read a wiki and a gamefaq guide to understand what's going on?

Eva.

Its influence.
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« Reply #232 on: June 26, 2019, 09:09:10 PM »
Xenogears definitely has a solid amount of Eva influence. Aside from the religious themes, you could say that Id is kind of similar to Unit 01's 400% synch state. And IIRC, Krelian is basically pursuing instrumentality.

Sakaguchi gave Takahashi the ball to do his own thing when he was disatisfied and had a shit ton of Evangelion models on his desk.

It goes beyond mecha.

FFVII is far more convoluted than FFVI for example, unnecessarily. Japanese storytelling became,"aren't we deep?" after Eva.

counterpoint: eva influencing every Japanese game dev and anime studio to randomly throw in a bunch of random religious imagery was cool and good. throwback to reading thirty paragraph connect the dots bullshit posts on the xenosaga gamefaqs subs when I was 12 :lawd

Counterpoint: Tetsuya Nomura stories.
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« Reply #233 on: June 26, 2019, 09:14:49 PM »
spending 300 hours wikipediaing random qabalah shit instead of doing geometry homework :lawd

that's why eva is brilliant, cyndi. you can just take it for what it is. i like eva (and its ideological descendents) because it trolled an entire generation of dorks, including everyone here into wasting time trying to understand latin, catholic imagery, whatever bullshit instead of taking it at face value :

robot battles and broken adults dumping the fate of the world on traumatized teens

and carrying on with their lives. art.

Cindi Mayweather

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Re: Great news, Glen! Evangelion is available on Netflix now!
« Reply #234 on: June 26, 2019, 09:19:22 PM »
I'm not speaking of Eva here, Esch.

I'm speaking of its legacy. I think those that copied Eva learned the wrong lessons. Eva, for the most part uses the imagery as fat and that's fine. But the other stuff we're talking like Xenosaga? Kingdom Hearts? They certainly don't. They take that cryptic imagery shit very seriously.

Which is why I say I like Eva, but i hate its legacy.
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toku

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Re: Great news, Glen! Evangelion is available on Netflix now!
« Reply #235 on: June 26, 2019, 09:20:42 PM »
Kingdom Hearts probably it's greatest sin. At least Xenosaga had trauma and violence.

Esch

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Re: Great news, Glen! Evangelion is available on Netflix now!
« Reply #236 on: June 26, 2019, 09:23:34 PM »
tricking people into thinking video games and anime are art instead of entertainment for children :lawd :rejoice

Cindi Mayweather

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Re: Great news, Glen! Evangelion is available on Netflix now!
« Reply #237 on: June 26, 2019, 09:25:21 PM »
tricking people into thinking video games and anime are art instead of entertainment for children :lawd :rejoice

art.

:what
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Tasty

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Re: Great news, Glen! Evangelion is available on Netflix now!
« Reply #238 on: June 26, 2019, 09:28:03 PM »
🕊️

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Re: Great news, Glen! Evangelion is available on Netflix now!
« Reply #239 on: June 26, 2019, 09:30:31 PM »
tricking people into thinking video games and anime are art instead of entertainment for children :lawd :rejoice

The only reason to post on JRPG forums in the late 90s and early 00s was to laugh at the people who took this stuff way too seriously.