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When will Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time be released?

2021
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Before 2029
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Maybe Next Decade
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Re: Great news, Glen! Evangelion is available on Netflix now!
« Reply #240 on: June 26, 2019, 09:32:11 PM »
entertainment for children :lawd :rejoice

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« Reply #241 on: June 26, 2019, 09:32:49 PM »


Best moment in the series.

Also, those monster fights. I wasn't surprised when Anno made the second best Godzilla film. :lawd
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« Reply #242 on: June 26, 2019, 11:14:56 PM »
Anno was also behind the God Warrior in Nausicaa, and all the cosmic horror stuff in Gunbuster.
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« Reply #243 on: June 26, 2019, 11:26:35 PM »
While answering an ad in Animage magazine calling for animators for Hayao Miyazaki's 1984 sophomore feature Nausicaš of the Valley of the Wind, Anno would impress Miyazaki so much that he was put in charge of one of the most difficult sequences in the movie: the God Warrior's attack sequence. He would subsequently spend almost every waking hour at Studio Topcraft's offices for the duration of his involvement (the film's complete production would run roughly nine months, and be fraught with borderline-disasters and complications), and would grow so close with Miyazaki that their friendship endures to the present day.

Anno the GOAT. :whew
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« Reply #244 on: June 26, 2019, 11:31:53 PM »
Oh yeah, I forgot we were talking about anime.

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« Reply #245 on: June 26, 2019, 11:49:18 PM »

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Hold up, i remember reading the manga version of this episode/scene, more than a decade ago.
It's the one were they do ballet lessons.

tricking people into thinking video games and anime are art instead of entertainment for children :lawd :rejoice
I watch little to no anime (or cartoons in general) nowadays, but i'll go ahead and say that Ping Pong The Animation qualifies as "art" better than some Oscar Bait like The King's Speech.  :doge
Now if only that was more of a standard for the medium...
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« Reply #246 on: June 27, 2019, 12:00:59 AM »
my post doesn't include things like satoshi kon movies cuz they're too good to be anime. like a ming vase blooming out of a field of wine mom ceramic class pieces.

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« Reply #247 on: June 27, 2019, 12:04:52 AM »
my post doesn't include things like satoshi kon movies cuz they're too good to be anime. like a ming vase blooming out of a field of wine mom ceramic class pieces.

This is why animation isn't worth it as a medium. :yeshrug Glad I gave up on it.
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« Reply #248 on: June 27, 2019, 01:17:22 AM »
Make Anime great Again? :thinking

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« Reply #249 on: June 27, 2019, 01:39:29 AM »
Imagine watching anime when manga exists :snob

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« Reply #250 on: June 27, 2019, 03:03:55 AM »
my post doesn't include things like satoshi kon movies cuz they're too good to be anime. like a ming vase blooming out of a field of wine mom ceramic class pieces.

It's a flawless argument, if you accept to leave out everything that contradicts it ?

:confused

It's possible to not take too seriously anime (or any cultural field, mass media one in particular) and still enjoy when it occasionally gets elevated above consumer targeted mediocrity.
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« Reply #251 on: June 27, 2019, 03:44:41 AM »
I like the episode where Shinji and Asuka have to train with DDR.

I think it's my favourite episode, really.

Also, something I'm a bit confused on, it seems Anno took the swerve into moving away from the mythology angle into exploring depression in the last few episodes "midway through development".

Is there any interviews out there on how late in production it was decided on? It seems wild to see how well they appropriated the reoccurring scenes in the last few episodes if they really did it in the 11th hour.

I'm sure an EvaHead has some interview ready ? But I don't think the switch was that drastic or sudden at the production level. The tone doesn't so much shift than drift. My fanwank is that narrative expediency and budget issues (perhaps in part caused by a change in priorities) accounts for quite a bit in the individual pacing of episodes getting a bit erratic towards the end.
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« Reply #252 on: June 27, 2019, 04:03:30 AM »
Rewatched last 30 mins of EoE tonight.

Still boss  :lawd :tauntaun

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« Reply #253 on: June 27, 2019, 04:47:56 AM »
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I downloaded an AMV based on this fight over a metered 56k line. It was worth it. :gun

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« Reply #254 on: June 27, 2019, 05:14:51 AM »
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I downloaded an AMV based on this fight over a metered 56k line. It was worth it. :gun

This thread is better than any Ronito confession thread.

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« Reply #255 on: June 27, 2019, 05:52:28 AM »
Can we get back to posting memes or talking about Nadesico?
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« Reply #256 on: June 27, 2019, 11:30:26 AM »
While answering an ad in Animage magazine calling for animators for Hayao Miyazaki's 1984 sophomore feature Nausicaš of the Valley of the Wind, Anno would impress Miyazaki so much that he was put in charge of one of the most difficult sequences in the movie: the God Warrior's attack sequence. He would subsequently spend almost every waking hour at Studio Topcraft's offices for the duration of his involvement (the film's complete production would run roughly nine months, and be fraught with borderline-disasters and complications), and would grow so close with Miyazaki that their friendship endures to the present day.

Anno the GOAT. :whew

Anno made a short for the Ghibli Museum, too. The Invention of Destruction in the Imaginary Machines. It was showing in a little film box when I went there in 2006, and a lot of artwork from it was on display there and it's detailed in the big book I bought at the museum. I think I watched it, but honestly had no idea Anno was behind it until after I left the museum.
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« Reply #257 on: June 27, 2019, 11:37:30 AM »
I like the episode where Shinji and Asuka have to train with DDR.

I think it's my favourite episode, really.

Also, something I'm a bit confused on, it seems Anno took the swerve into moving away from the mythology angle into exploring depression in the last few episodes "midway through development".

Is there any interviews out there on how late in production it was decided on? It seems wild to see how well they appropriated the reoccurring scenes in the last few episodes if they really did it in the 11th hour.

I'm sure an EvaHead has some interview ready ? But I don't think the switch was that drastic or sudden at the production level. The tone doesn't so much shift than drift. My fanwank is that narrative expediency and budget issues (perhaps in part caused by a change in priorities) accounts for quite a bit in the individual pacing of episodes getting a bit erratic towards the end.

This talks about it a bit.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2019-06-17/hideaki-anno-before-evangelion/.147940
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2019-06-19/hideaki-anno-after-evangelion/.148019
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« Reply #261 on: June 27, 2019, 11:56:43 AM »
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« Reply #262 on: June 27, 2019, 08:05:18 PM »

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« Reply #263 on: June 27, 2019, 08:18:24 PM »
Oh yeah, I forgot we were talking about anime.

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« Reply #264 on: June 28, 2019, 04:21:24 PM »
I like the episode where Shinji and Asuka have to train with DDR.

I think it's my favourite episode, really.

Also, something I'm a bit confused on, it seems Anno took the swerve into moving away from the mythology angle into exploring depression in the last few episodes "midway through development".

Is there any interviews out there on how late in production it was decided on? It seems wild to see how well they appropriated the reoccurring scenes in the last few episodes if they really did it in the 11th hour.

I'm sure an EvaHead has some interview ready ? But I don't think the switch was that drastic or sudden at the production level. The tone doesn't so much shift than drift. My fanwank is that narrative expediency and budget issues (perhaps in part caused by a change in priorities) accounts for quite a bit in the individual pacing of episodes getting a bit erratic towards the end.

This talks about it a bit.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2019-06-17/hideaki-anno-before-evangelion/.147940
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2019-06-19/hideaki-anno-after-evangelion/.148019

Oh man the Sarin gas attacks again. The Kobe earthquake and Sarin attacks are often invoked for why a lot of creators toned down the massive apocalyptic fetish of 80-90's manga and anime (most notably Akira and everything Otomo). They didn't find that so rad when facing the real life incarnation they possibly influenced. IIRC set designers for Godzilla also visited post-quake Kobe for documentation and you see keiju eigas aiming at being grittier shortly thereafter.
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« Reply #265 on: June 28, 2019, 05:33:13 PM »
The scene where Shinji gets a boner in the hot spring and Pen Pen notices it is kind of weird IMO.

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« Reply #266 on: June 28, 2019, 08:10:49 PM »
I keep putting on kom susser tod :beli
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« Reply #267 on: June 28, 2019, 09:24:46 PM »
From personal experience, that's not a good sign.

You ok man?
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« Reply #268 on: June 28, 2019, 09:44:33 PM »
I know what you mean but I'm just playing it because it's good
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« Reply #269 on: June 30, 2019, 11:10:40 AM »

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« Reply #270 on: June 30, 2019, 04:30:19 PM »
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« Reply #271 on: June 30, 2019, 05:09:08 PM »
When Shinji rescues Rei the same way that Gendo rescued Rei. :whew

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« Reply #272 on: June 30, 2019, 06:13:39 PM »
So Netflix removed the Italian dub from Evangelion, due to the backlash, and they say on their facebook page that they're "fixing it" (and the subtitles).
I hope this will address the almost unintelligible syntax and grammatical problems more than specific nitpicking about this or that term being changed ('cause some people bitched that they changed "Angel" into "Apostle" or some shit, but i don't care about that stuff).

I'm glad it wasn't just me going crazy though, i had to stop watching it, because it felt like Google translate level of weirdness at times.
I read that even the voice actors wanted to walk out mid recording, because the text made no sense to them.  :lol

(BTW this was directly translated by the Japanese, from the same guy translating all Ghibli movies, and who did the 90's Eva translation too, so i dunno wtf happened).

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« Reply #273 on: June 30, 2019, 10:59:33 PM »
The stretch of episodes 7 through 9 is honestly unbeatable stuff. :whoo :whew :lawd







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« Reply #274 on: July 01, 2019, 01:44:49 AM »
Comparing the Netflix dub and sub - the dub is so much better. Funimation dubs were completely unlistenable. The Netflix dub also totally fixes the stilted speech in the subs. I tried watching with subtitles on for a few scenes with the dubbed audio and some of the sentences are truly bizarre. Watch with dubs.
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« Reply #275 on: July 01, 2019, 03:36:50 AM »

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« Reply #276 on: July 01, 2019, 04:23:48 AM »
Dissolving into the LCL is maybe taking fan adulation of Evangelion a bit too far, Glen.
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« Reply #277 on: July 01, 2019, 08:39:30 AM »
Comparing the Netflix dub and sub - the dub is so much better. Funimation dubs were completely unlistenable. The Netflix dub also totally fixes the stilted speech in the subs. I tried watching with subtitles on for a few scenes with the dubbed audio and some of the sentences are truly bizarre. Watch with dubs.

ADV dubbed the original; Funimation has only handled the Rebuild movies. The latter have most of the same cast as the original ADV dub, but much better direction. (Plus, the VAs had grown a lot since then too.)

How does the Netflix dub compare to the Rebuild dubs?
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« Reply #279 on: July 01, 2019, 10:13:16 AM »
Pretty dumb take, but hey whatever floats her boat.

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« Reply #280 on: July 01, 2019, 11:19:42 AM »
Comparing the Netflix dub and sub - the dub is so much better. Funimation dubs were completely unlistenable. The Netflix dub also totally fixes the stilted speech in the subs. I tried watching with subtitles on for a few scenes with the dubbed audio and some of the sentences are truly bizarre. Watch with dubs.

ADV dubbed the original; Funimation has only handled the Rebuild movies. The latter have most of the same cast as the original ADV dub, but much better direction. (Plus, the VAs had grown a lot since then too.)

How does the Netflix dub compare to the Rebuild dubs?

Netflix is better.

Rebuild made the mistake, at least in the first one, of largely mimicking the old adv performances, including the straight up errors they made with it.  So while it may have gotten better upon the divergence, it's much too "informed by the original dub" in both scripting and performance.

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« Reply #281 on: July 01, 2019, 06:47:33 PM »
Pretty dumb take, but hey whatever floats her boat.

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« Reply #282 on: July 01, 2019, 07:16:15 PM »
Pretty dumb take, but hey whatever floats her boat.

It's a bit of reactionary frustration on her part probably but I think there's some truth to the "fandom" never being happy and being overly smug and dogmatic both in interpreting a work & quick at disparaging technicians and artists despite very little expertise in how the sausage is made.
In particular with a show like Evangelion where the engagement from fans can get extreme.
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« Reply #283 on: July 01, 2019, 10:43:22 PM »
went to netflix and the first thing popped up was evangelion taking up the entire screen.

gotta admit I was very nostalgic. Reminded me of my friend and I trading anime dvds in 2001. He got an evangelion dvd a week, and I got a Kenshin dvd. We'd trade. It took a few weeks to get through Evangelion because we were watching one dvd a week. I, of course, taped all of it to vhs just like I did the Cowboy Bebop dvds.

tempted to rewatch because it makes me nostalgic for the Suncoast anime days, but...

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« Reply #284 on: July 01, 2019, 10:47:16 PM »
 :-[ watch it c o w a r d  :-[

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« Reply #285 on: July 01, 2019, 10:49:14 PM »
Get in the robot queue, Cindi.

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« Reply #286 on: July 01, 2019, 10:58:34 PM »
Evangelion is why I finally got my own VCR btw. :aah

In 2000 I picked up the Evangelion VHS from Suncoast. People online were talking about this crazy mecha anime and I was a fan of Gundam. Evangelion was the *it* anime before Love Hina tainted all of us with its harem degeneracy. I didn't have a VCR and my parents were in the room with the tv so I watched it in front of them, not giving a fuck and marveling at the Eva-01 freak out. :lawd

My parents saw first hand the demonic JAPANIMATION I was into. My dad already knew because I made him watch my Escaflowne tape, but this my moms first ride.

"Don't forget about fanservice~!"

My mom was scared as I was smiling gleefully at Unit-01 massacre that poor Angel.

I got a VCR that Christmas a few weeks later. lmao

Basically "please never put that demonic videos in front of me ever again, please do it in your own room!"

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« Reply #287 on: July 01, 2019, 11:03:48 PM »






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« Reply #288 on: July 02, 2019, 09:05:49 AM »
I waited until my parents went to sleep to watch my demonic japanimation [that I taped off the Scifi Channel].
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« Reply #289 on: July 02, 2019, 09:37:03 AM »
My dad and I watched DBZ on Toonami together before dinner every weekday. :)
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« Reply #291 on: July 02, 2019, 10:22:22 AM »
This run of songs :lawd

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« Reply #292 on: July 02, 2019, 11:15:09 AM »
My dad and I watched DBZ on Toonami together before dinner every weekday. :)

So did my dad I. But thereís an ocean between eva and dbz
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« Reply #294 on: July 02, 2019, 01:02:34 PM »
Don't give Hideo ideas :lol

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« Reply #296 on: July 02, 2019, 01:32:22 PM »
The only anime on VHS I watched was Macross Plus, which now that I think about it shares with Eva what Esch posted earlier: humanity has reached unimaginable levels of technological progress and withstood cataclysmic events but they still have to do competitive bids with an arms industry for next generation special forces multirole combat aircraft and the decision of whether or not we should be beholden to artificial intelligence was left to the anarchy of production until it predictably got out of hand.

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« Reply #297 on: July 02, 2019, 01:38:12 PM »
There's one SEELE discussion bit where they're framing the eva-01 unit damage in terms of budget going to NERV instead of feeding people  :lol

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« Reply #298 on: July 02, 2019, 01:42:16 PM »
Yeah, that's in the episode 7. :lol

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« Reply #299 on: July 02, 2019, 02:07:20 PM »