You know, Shinji, we really are the End of Evangelion.

[Joe Molotov]

Oh yeah, I forgot we were talking about anime.

Misato best girl, EASY

BEER

[Tasty]

Oh yeah, I forgot we were talking about anime.

Misato best girl, EASY

BEER

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[VomKriege]

I like the episode where Shinji and Asuka have to train with DDR.

I think it's my favourite episode, really.

Also, something I'm a bit confused on, it seems Anno took the swerve into moving away from the mythology angle into exploring depression in the last few episodes "midway through development".

Is there any interviews out there on how late in production it was decided on? It seems wild to see how well they appropriated the reoccurring scenes in the last few episodes if they really did it in the 11th hour.

I'm sure an EvaHead has some interview ready ? But I don't think the switch was that drastic or sudden at the production level. The tone doesn't so much shift than drift. My fanwank is that narrative expediency and budget issues (perhaps in part caused by a change in priorities) accounts for quite a bit in the individual pacing of episodes getting a bit erratic towards the end.

This talks about it a bit.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2019-06-17/hideaki-anno-before-evangelion/.147940
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2019-06-19/hideaki-anno-after-evangelion/.148019

Oh man the Sarin gas attacks again. The Kobe earthquake and Sarin attacks are often invoked for why a lot of creators toned down the massive apocalyptic fetish of 80-90's manga and anime (most notably Akira and everything Otomo). They didn't find that so rad when facing the real life incarnation they possibly influenced. IIRC set designers for Godzilla also visited post-quake Kobe for documentation and you see keiju eigas aiming at being grittier shortly thereafter.

[Tasty]

The scene where Shinji gets a boner in the hot spring and Pen Pen notices it is kind of weird IMO.

[Tasty]

From personal experience, that's not a good sign.

You ok man?

[toku]

[Kara]

When Shinji rescues Rei the same way that Gendo rescued Rei.

[Don Rumata]

So Netflix removed the Italian dub from Evangelion, due to the backlash, and they say on their facebook page that they're "fixing it" (and the subtitles).
I hope this will address the almost unintelligible syntax and grammatical problems more than specific nitpicking about this or that term being changed ('cause some people bitched that they changed "Angel" into "Apostle" or some shit, but i don't care about that stuff).

I'm glad it wasn't just me going crazy though, i had to stop watching it, because it felt like Google translate level of weirdness at times.
I read that even the voice actors wanted to walk out mid recording, because the text made no sense to them. 

(BTW this was directly translated by the Japanese, from the same guy translating all Ghibli movies, and who did the 90's Eva translation too, so i dunno wtf happened).

[Kara]

The stretch of episodes 7 through 9 is honestly unbeatable stuff.

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Could do without a little of the perv stuff though.

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[Kara]

[VomKriege]

Dissolving into the LCL is maybe taking fan adulation of Evangelion a bit too far, Glen.

[Tasty]

Comparing the Netflix dub and sub - the dub is so much better. Funimation dubs were completely unlistenable. The Netflix dub also totally fixes the stilted speech in the subs. I tried watching with subtitles on for a few scenes with the dubbed audio and some of the sentences are truly bizarre. Watch with dubs.

ADV dubbed the original; Funimation has only handled the Rebuild movies. The latter have most of the same cast as the original ADV dub, but much better direction. (Plus, the VAs had grown a lot since then too.)

How does the Netflix dub compare to the Rebuild dubs?

[Momo]

Pretty dumb take, but hey whatever floats her boat.

[pancakesandsex]

Comparing the Netflix dub and sub - the dub is so much better. Funimation dubs were completely unlistenable. The Netflix dub also totally fixes the stilted speech in the subs. I tried watching with subtitles on for a few scenes with the dubbed audio and some of the sentences are truly bizarre. Watch with dubs.

ADV dubbed the original; Funimation has only handled the Rebuild movies. The latter have most of the same cast as the original ADV dub, but much better direction. (Plus, the VAs had grown a lot since then too.)

How does the Netflix dub compare to the Rebuild dubs?

Netflix is better.

Rebuild made the mistake, at least in the first one, of largely mimicking the old adv performances, including the straight up errors they made with it.  So while it may have gotten better upon the divergence, it's much too "informed by the original dub" in both scripting and performance.

[naff]

Pretty dumb take, but hey whatever floats her boat.

you're a dumb take

[VomKriege]

Pretty dumb take, but hey whatever floats her boat.

It's a bit of reactionary frustration on her part probably but I think there's some truth to the "fandom" never being happy and being overly smug and dogmatic both in interpreting a work & quick at disparaging technicians and artists despite very little expertise in how the sausage is made.
In particular with a show like Evangelion where the engagement from fans can get extreme.

[Himu]

went to netflix and the first thing popped up was evangelion taking up the entire screen.

gotta admit I was very nostalgic. Reminded me of my friend and I trading anime dvds in 2001. He got an evangelion dvd a week, and I got a Kenshin dvd. We'd trade. It took a few weeks to get through Evangelion because we were watching one dvd a week. I, of course, taped all of it to vhs just like I did the Cowboy Bebop dvds.

tempted to rewatch because it makes me nostalgic for the Suncoast anime days, but...

[Kara]

Get in the robot queue, Cindi.

[Himu]

Evangelion is why I finally got my own VCR btw.

In 2000 I picked up the Evangelion VHS from Suncoast. People online were talking about this crazy mecha anime and I was a fan of Gundam. Evangelion was the *it* anime before Love Hina tainted all of us with its harem degeneracy. I didn't have a VCR and my parents were in the room with the tv so I watched it in front of them, not giving a fuck and marveling at the Eva-01 freak out.

My parents saw first hand the demonic JAPANIMATION I was into. My dad already knew because I made him watch my Escaflowne tape, but this my moms first ride.

"Don't forget about fanservice~!"

My mom was scared as I was smiling gleefully at Unit-01 massacre that poor Angel.

I got a VCR that Christmas a few weeks later. lmao

Basically "please never put that demonic videos in front of me ever again, please do it in your own room!"

I understand you Shinji, I understand you.

[Himu]

[Great Rumbler]

I waited until my parents went to sleep to watch my demonic japanimation [that I taped off the Scifi Channel].

[Tasty]

My dad and I watched DBZ on Toonami together before dinner every weekday.

[Tasty]

The first ten minutes of Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 will be livestreamed worldwide this Saturday, July 6th at 8:15pm Japan time.



The true "end" of Evangelion may almost be upon us.

[Himu]

My dad and I watched DBZ on Toonami together before dinner every weekday.

So did my dad I. But there’s an ocean between eva and dbz

[Kara]

https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1144776977464696833

[Momo]

Don't give Hideo ideas

[Tasty]

Don't give Hideo ideas

https://twitter.com/hideo_kojima_en/status/1026367103249539072

[Kara]

The only anime on VHS I watched was Macross Plus, which now that I think about it shares with Eva what Esch posted earlier: humanity has reached unimaginable levels of technological progress and withstood cataclysmic events but they still have to do competitive bids with an arms industry for next generation special forces multirole combat aircraft and the decision of whether or not we should be beholden to artificial intelligence was left to the anarchy of production until it predictably got out of hand.

[Kara]

Yeah, that's in the episode 7.

[toku]

[toku]

https://twitter.com/spookysquid/status/1145799870512603137

[Tasty]

I can see it.

[brawndolicious]

Never seen this show before but now I'm like 15 episodes in. I'd say like 80% of each episode is slice of life horny teenage boy scenes, some surprisingly fun action scenes that involve giant robots walking like an old man stabbing giant aliens, and maybe like 1% has to do with the origins of the story and where all the religious symbolism comes from.

I'm gonna finish the series once and then rewatch it stoned in the original Japanese. It's clear the writers intended it that way.

[VomKriege]

The oyster bar I drank at in Japan for a run of 4 nights with a group of friends was a blast, but all 4 nights they were playing the Rebuild movies on repeat on a projector despite the clientele.

Q's intro must be a blast to drink to.

[Tasty]

Stand in reverence.

[Tasty]

The first ten minutes of Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 will be livestreamed worldwide this Saturday, July 6th at 8:15pm Japan time.

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The true "end" of Evangelion may almost be upon us.

~5 hours 6 minutes from now.

[Joe Molotov]

Friendly Reminder: The span of time between the first episode of Evangelion and Evangelion 1.0 was ~12 years. This is almost the same amount of time that's passed between Evangelion 1.0's release and now.

[Kara]

Starts after ~4:00.

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A mission involing Ritsuko and Mari "reviving" Paris(?) so they can access "Euro NERV." Gonna need to see a fan breakdown of this one.

But it confirms the "reddenning" for lack of a better term from Near-Third Impact is somehow reversible by humans. Which makes it curious that the Japanese NERV HQ was still affected by it.

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[Rahxephon91]

I hate the Rebuild movies. Just so much dumb looking shit.

[Tasty]

Kaworu getting one episode

Kaworu getting a whole movie

[VomKriege]

I hate the Rebuild movies. Just so much dumb looking shit.

Yes.
It's glorious. 

[Rahxephon91]

I don't think I'm the kind of fan that thinks series have to be one way and then gets mad when they don't do what I want them to.


But Evangelion is kind of a special exception. The Rebuild movies just aren't Evangelion to me. I'd probably like them if I never saw the tv show.

And man do I dislike Mari.

[Joe Molotov]

I wish Glen were alive to see this.

[Don Rumata]

Up to episode 20 so far.
I'm glad they stopped recycling the "pervert don't look at my underwear" joke, after the 20th time. 

Aside from that though, it started to get pretty cool, in these last few episodes, with the 01 going on all 4s acting like a monkey, and eating that other angel. 

Yeah some of the monologuing in the dream sequences is overwritten, like many anime can be, but it's bearable so far.
It's got a cool atmosphere, tbh.

I wish there was a bit more world building when it came to anything outside of the GeoFront though (or even the GeoFront itself) a thousand shots of screens and escalators are cool, but i'm not quite sure where and how the population goes about in this world, since anything outside of the homebase and school, is barely implied at best.

[Nintex]

Haven't watched animu in like forever.

Watched 3 episodes of this.

- Sorta reminds me of Nier Automata with the weird face on the angel and the shots of the destroyed cities 
- Episodes are short and sweet (20 - 30 min tops) easy to digest during breaks 
- Misato is total animu waifu 


So far so good, would weeaboo again

[Joe Molotov]

Better Eva 4.0 camrip w/ENG SUBS:



@1:51 when it takes the guy a few seconds to plug in the USB the right way, possibly the realest scene ever put to film 

[VomKriege]

I can't wait to see whatever non-explanation they will go for who Mary is. Per interviews, they threw a lot of ideas around but they didn't really know even after finishing the second film or preparing the third one IIRC.

[chronovore]

All the cryptic nonsense is just bait. You gain no greater insight into anything by deciphering it.

Enjoy the robot battles and broken adults dumping the fate of the world on traumatized teens.

Yeah, the one thing in SF fandom worse than worship of Star Trek technobabble is worship of Eva's spiritual-psycho-technobabble. Ew.

[Momo]

worship of Star Trek technobabble

U leave my dilithium crystals alone

[Vizzys]

Kaworu getting one episode

Kaworu getting a whole movie

well...

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he could be in this one.  if this is in fact a reboot sequel to the original anime as hinted, then their should be a second kaworu.
thats why he told shinji he would meet again someday / everyone confused at their being a 13th angel / two lances etc

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anyway cgi aside that trailer was aite. The music was fire as usual at least

[chronovore]

worship of Star Trek technobabble

U leave my dilithium crystals alone

I'm less concerned about dilithium crystals than re-routing the tractor beam through the deflector dish, but phase-shifting its harmonics so it acts as a propulsion method, like a Venetian gondolier's staff.

[Momo]

So you mean discovery, yeah no one likes that

[Don Rumata]

Those two final episodes...  "Se you in 2 years with the movie, bitch!" (I know they ran out of money).

Also what the fuck, the white haired guy is in ONE fucking episode? i saw him spammed everywhere throughout the years, and he has like 15 lines.

Well, i'll watch EoE, but so far i liked it quite a bit.
I don't think it's as good as Monster (let alone Ping Pong, which for me is the golden standard) but it goes into some really interesting places with the characters (especially the adults).
I wish it didn't feel the need to repeat the same thing 50 times though, it gets annoying when the characters scream in your ear their inner thoughts 5 times per episode.

Misato started as the best character, and kept the crown, but i also like Ritsuko and her relationship with Ikari.

[Joe Molotov]

Misato started as the best character, and kept the crown, but i also like Ritsuko and her relationship with Ikari.

Just wait until you see EoE. 

[Momo]

No, no.gif

[toku]

Misato will always be the sane cultured man's choice

[VomKriege]

Ritsuko is a good character yeah, and I think her mommy issues are more interesting on the screen than Misato (being much more material).

Gendo Ikari is sort of a control freak black sun, he's only interesting when contrasted with everyone interacting with him (Ritsuko esp.). He really is The Man, man.

[Don Rumata]

Ritsuko is a good character yeah, and I think her mommy issues are more interesting on the screen than Misato (being much more material).

Gendo Ikari is sort of a control freak black sun, he's only interesting when contrasted with everyone interacting with him (Ritsuko esp.). He really is The Man, man.

Yes, although the little they show of him in the Prof's flashback, it's kind of intriguing in itself.
Him being a rough delinquent type, and taking his wife's surname...

[Kara]

Gendo's scheming is so good. Cryptic politicking in dark rooms.

[Trent Dole]

Misato will always be the sane cultured man's choice

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You're not supposed to want to fuck any of them, they are all fundamentally broken in some way.

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Any choice is acceptable besides Mari tbh, you can't just throw a new random fetish girl into a series that's already been around for decades c'mon man.

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