Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/linseymarr/status/1336688899851218947

[Joe Molotov]

gonna need to re-learn social interactions

re-learn?

[Great Rumbler]

gonna need to re-learn social interactions

Not me, man. Masks and 6-feet 4 lyfe

[Nintex]

Now that masks are introduced and cases have gone up the conclusion among the COVID truthers is.... MASKS CAUSE CORONA.

Also a secret government memo leaked (and was later officially released) that claimed closing down bars and restaurants had a negative effect on reducing infections rather than a positive effect which isn't helping things.


6589 new cases today


Getting more and more emails of people with: "halp I'm sick I have the rona" lately.
And I'm sitting behind my $2000 computer like 

[Madrun Badrun]

US will be 3K deaths today. 

[Great Rumbler]

US will be 3K deaths today. 

[Flannel Boy]

+3,164

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1336718542222192640

[Madrun Badrun]

Canada has 116 deaths.  We are going to be at the death rate we were in the first wave pretty soon, except now most provinces have high death rates.

[T-Short]

https://twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1336718542222192640

Yeah, this is rough. The difference is that the non-covid ICU need is much higher now than it was this spring. The amount of covid patients in ICU is less than half of what it was during the peak in April. Hoping the plateauing we're seeing in cases will hold, but I guess a resurgence over the holidays is not entirely unlikely.

[Fifstar]

https://twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1336718542222192640

Yeah, this is rough. The difference is that the non-covid ICU need is much higher now than it was this spring. The amount of covid patients in ICU is less than half of what it was during the peak in April. Hoping the plateauing we're seeing in cases will hold, but I guess a resurgence over the holidays is not entirely unlikely.

I thought Sweden numbers were looking good/okay, at least regarding deaths from covid.

We in germany complety lost the plot meanwhile. Our daily infections numbers are on the same high level of ~ 20.000 infections per day since beginning of november and it seems like a change in test strategy is responsible for underaccountance of more cases. Now we even have a rise in cases again. Daily death numbers are still rising and we already have more deaths than in spring - and we haven't even reached peak yet 

Science and Merkel were in favor of harder and earlier lockdown but our dumb federal state heads went with a lockdown light because they were too afraid of covidiots and decline of business 

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1336841349073575938

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1336493616097681412

[Nintex]

+8793 cases today

That's over 2000 cases more than yesterday.

Meanwhile the urban legend that Masks and not Sinterklaas parties are to blame is spreading like wildfire.

[I'm a Puppy!]

50% jump in our footprint today (that's never happened). Hospitals between 87-93% filled.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1336493616097681412

I've seen a lot of rumbling from anti-lockdowners about increased suicides or increased abuse from kids stuck at home all day with abusive parents (you wonder how concerned they were about these things in February), and I'm like yeah okay there's probably some truth to that and that's terrible, but on one hand you have hypothetical bad thing that could happen but we have no idea to what extent, and on the other hand we have actual bad thing that happening right now and it's really fucking bad.

[james]

No schools = no bullies = no suicides

Mean girls in shambles

[james]

South Dakota has joined ND with more than 10% of the state having had the rona.

Congrats!

Meanwhile, DC has joined the 1 in every 1000 dead club

Congrats!

New Jersey is about to hit 1 in every 500 dead probably tomorrow.

Congrats!

[Pennywise]

https://twitter.com/zorinaq/status/1336718542222192640

Yeah, this is rough. The difference is that the non-covid ICU need is much higher now than it was this spring. The amount of covid patients in ICU is less than half of what it was during the peak in April. Hoping the plateauing we're seeing in cases will hold, but I guess a resurgence over the holidays is not entirely unlikely.

I thought Sweden numbers were looking good/okay, at least regarding deaths from covid.

We in germany complety lost the plot meanwhile. Our daily infections numbers are on the same high level of ~ 20.000 infections per day since beginning of november and it seems like a change in test strategy is responsible for underaccountance of more cases. Now we even have a rise in cases again. Daily death numbers are still rising and we already have more deaths than in spring - and we haven't even reached peak yet 

Science and Merkel were in favor of harder and earlier lockdown but our dumb federal state heads went with a lockdown light because they were too afraid of covidiots and decline of business 

Which is the worst part of it.
One proper hard lockdown instead of this shit to save christmas...

[T-Short]

I thought Sweden numbers were looking good/okay, at least regarding deaths from covid.

We in germany complety lost the plot meanwhile. Our daily infections numbers are on the same high level of ~ 20.000 infections per day since beginning of november and it seems like a change in test strategy is responsible for underaccountance of more cases. Now we even have a rise in cases again. Daily death numbers are still rising and we already have more deaths than in spring - and we haven't even reached peak yet 

Science and Merkel were in favor of harder and earlier lockdown but our dumb federal state heads went with a lockdown light because they were too afraid of covidiots and decline of business 

Hehe, well, depends on how you look at it. Like most of the rest of Europe, we're having a seasonality-based second surge of cases, hospitalisations and deaths. If you only look at the case numbers, they are looking a lot higher now than they were in the spring, but we are testing around 10 times as many people per week now as we were back in April. The hospitalisation rate is pretty high, but luckily the ICU admissions and death rates are not as high as they were during the April peak. The department of public health has projected the peak of this outbreak to be around a week from now, our increase started about a two weeks to a month later than other European countries. The outlier so far is the Skåne county (with Malmö as the biggest city) which is still increasing, possibly because they've not been hit as hard as the other major urban areas during this year so immunity is lower.

You can see the trend curve for deaths here, based on a rolling 7-day average:
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&data=deaths&trendline=false&location=Sweden

Feel free to add countries to the right to compare. The vertices are only drawn when you have 2 plots or less.

[Madrun Badrun]

Ontario is starting vaccinations next week.  Woot. 

[Fifstar]

I thought Sweden numbers were looking good/okay, at least regarding deaths from covid.

We in germany complety lost the plot meanwhile. Our daily infections numbers are on the same high level of ~ 20.000 infections per day since beginning of november and it seems like a change in test strategy is responsible for underaccountance of more cases. Now we even have a rise in cases again. Daily death numbers are still rising and we already have more deaths than in spring - and we haven't even reached peak yet 

Science and Merkel were in favor of harder and earlier lockdown but our dumb federal state heads went with a lockdown light because they were too afraid of covidiots and decline of business 

Hehe, well, depends on how you look at it. Like most of the rest of Europe, we're having a seasonality-based second surge of cases, hospitalisations and deaths. If you only look at the case numbers, they are looking a lot higher now than they were in the spring, but we are testing around 10 times as many people per week now as we were back in April. The hospitalisation rate is pretty high, but luckily the ICU admissions and death rates are not as high as they were during the April peak. The department of public health has projected the peak of this outbreak to be around a week from now, our increase started about a two weeks to a month later than other European countries. The outlier so far is the Skåne county (with Malmö as the biggest city) which is still increasing, possibly because they've not been hit as hard as the other major urban areas during this year so immunity is lower.

You can see the trend curve for deaths here, based on a rolling 7-day average:
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&data=deaths&trendline=false&location=Sweden

Feel free to add countries to the right to compare. The vertices are only drawn when you have 2 plots or less.

I was looking at the worldometers numbers and it looks like the death numbers already saw a steep decline since the end of november. So I thought the situation was already getting under control. Looks different with your link.

[T-Short]

I thought Sweden numbers were looking good/okay, at least regarding deaths from covid.

We in germany complety lost the plot meanwhile. Our daily infections numbers are on the same high level of ~ 20.000 infections per day since beginning of november and it seems like a change in test strategy is responsible for underaccountance of more cases. Now we even have a rise in cases again. Daily death numbers are still rising and we already have more deaths than in spring - and we haven't even reached peak yet 

Science and Merkel were in favor of harder and earlier lockdown but our dumb federal state heads went with a lockdown light because they were too afraid of covidiots and decline of business 

Hehe, well, depends on how you look at it. Like most of the rest of Europe, we're having a seasonality-based second surge of cases, hospitalisations and deaths. If you only look at the case numbers, they are looking a lot higher now than they were in the spring, but we are testing around 10 times as many people per week now as we were back in April. The hospitalisation rate is pretty high, but luckily the ICU admissions and death rates are not as high as they were during the April peak. The department of public health has projected the peak of this outbreak to be around a week from now, our increase started about a two weeks to a month later than other European countries. The outlier so far is the Skåne county (with Malmö as the biggest city) which is still increasing, possibly because they've not been hit as hard as the other major urban areas during this year so immunity is lower.

You can see the trend curve for deaths here, based on a rolling 7-day average:
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?scale=linear&data=deaths&trendline=false&location=Sweden

Feel free to add countries to the right to compare. The vertices are only drawn when you have 2 plots or less.

I was looking at the worldometers numbers and it looks like the death numbers already saw a steep decline since the end of november. So I thought the situation was already getting under control. Looks different with your link.

Ah. The one I linked uses the Johns Hopkins CSSE numbers, which are the number of reported deaths per day (which may have occurred on various days), while I see the Worldometers graph is sourced from the "Deaths attributed per date" graph from FHM. This is continuously updated, so the last 7-10 days will always be "unfinished", that's why it looks like it's tapering off.

[Mandark]

https://adamaltmejd.se/covid/

Updated chart going by actual date of death which color codes to show the reporting lag. At least we've gotten some nifty data visualization out of mass tragedy!

[T-Short]

https://adamaltmejd.se/covid/

Updated chart going by actual date of death which color codes to show the reporting lag. At least we've gotten some nifty data visualization out of mass tragedy!

I read the bottom-most box on the right as "goth percentile" 

[Nintex]

+8.894 cases

still going up

[james]

Vaccines start arriving Monday!!!!!!!!

[Nintex]

+9924 cases

Government is panicking. Germany has closed non essential shops so Germans are starting to cross the borders to shop here.
Retailers have called on our government not to close non-essential stores because of the holiday shopping season.
Also, lots of people have bought flight tickets to celebrate Christmas overseas as the airport remains open.

There's likely going to be a curfew on New Years Eve but no one really knows how the police could and would enforce it.

The situation is tense. People dgaf and want society to open up not close and most political parties, except for Geert Wilders' PVV and the ruling VVD are in dissaray. 

[james]

+9924 cases

Government is panicking. Germany has closed non essential shops so Germans are starting to cross the borders to shop here.
Retailers have called on our government not to close non-essential stores because of the holiday shopping season.
Also, lots of people have bought flight tickets to celebrate Christmas overseas as the airport remains open.

There's likely going to be a curfew on New Years Eve but no one really knows how the police could and would enforce it.

The situation is tense. People dgaf and want society to open up not close and most political parties, except for Geert Wilders' PVV and the ruling VVD are in dissaray.

The germans are experts at keeping people locked inside for extended periods, you should call them up

[tiesto]

First woman in US to be vaccinated is a nurse from Long Island Jewish...

https://abc7news.com/covid-vaccine-pfizer-sandra-lindsay-first/8768796/

[Nintex]

Lockdown for 5 weeks


lol you can hear the anti virus people protest outside while the PM is speaking

[Nintex]

[Mandark]

Invert it, cases over population.

[Fifstar]

+9924 cases

Government is panicking. Germany has closed non essential shops so Germans are starting to cross the borders to shop here.
Retailers have called on our government not to close non-essential stores because of the holiday shopping season.
Also, lots of people have bought flight tickets to celebrate Christmas overseas as the airport remains open.

There's likely going to be a curfew on New Years Eve but no one really knows how the police could and would enforce it.

The situation is tense. People dgaf and want society to open up not close and most political parties, except for Geert Wilders' PVV and the ruling VVD are in dissaray.

Non essential shops aren't closed until tomorrow in Germany so until then you won't have seen any effect due to this.

[VomKriege]

Nintex : The Boy who cried Deutsch.

[Pissy F Benny]

Ze Germans

[EchoRin]

Flying across the sea tonight boize to go see my waifu*. Wish me luck. I'll take a picture to show what the seating looked like.


*actually my family 

[Madrun Badrun]

Ontario is 2275+ new cases today.  Fucking hell.  The first time we are over 2k. 

[Flannel Boy]

First, the histological morphology of the testes from five COVID-19 patients and three uninfected controls was examined by periodic acid-Schiff (PAS) staining. The COVID-19 patients were aged 51, 62, 70, 78, and 83 years, and the control patients were aged 71, 78, and 80 years (Supplementary Table S1). In all five COVID-19 patients, numerous degenerated germ cells (GCs) had sloughed into the lumen of seminiferous tubules (Fig. 1a). In contrast, in the age-matched control tissues, GCs at various stages were well aligned around the whole seminiferous tubules (Fig. 1a). Strikingly, in four of the five cases, GC loss was massive, with only a few GCs left attached to the seminiferous tubules. In particular, many seminiferous tubules in the testes of patients 4 and 5 showed almost no intact GCs, similar to Sertoli cell-only syndrome. Consistent with this morphological observation, the number of DDX4 (a germ cell marker)-positive cells was dramatically reduced in all testicular specimens from the COVID-19 group (Supplementary Fig. S1a, b). Interestingly, the number of Sertoli cells in the testes of SARS-CoV-2-infected patients and uninfected controls was comparable (Supplementary Fig. S1c, d), suggesting that SARS-CoV-2 infection may not impair Sertoli cells. These morphological changes in the testes of COVID-19 patients indicate that SARS-CoV-2 infection may impair male GC development and eventually lead to GC loss.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-020-00604-5

[Joe Molotov]

rip humans

[Madrun Badrun]

Ontario 2139+ today.  Xmas is going to be so bad.

[Nintex]

+11 214

But there were some delayed(?) numbers from yesterday 

[Madrun Badrun]

A friend of mine caught it.  First person I know.  Got it from his mom who is a healthcare worker

[zomgee]

I've got a sister in law with it now. She's like WAY overweight and super unhealthy. So... let's see what happens. My mother in law and brother in law both recovered.

[Coffee Dog]

My sister got it like a week ago, meaning I now get to say I know somebody who got it.  she's young and got through it fine, thankfully.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Our capacity is going getting better today!!!

because we had 3x the normal daily deaths yesterday. 

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/16/opinion/coronavirus-shutdown-strategies.html

[Joe Molotov]

One of my bosses got the rona.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

why you all catching covid?

[Flannel Boy]

California:  +61,569 cases +407 deaths

[Madrun Badrun]

California:  +61,569 cases +407 deaths

wow

[Great Rumbler]

3,486 death today in the US. That's a new record, by the way.

[james]

California:  +61,569 cases +407 deaths

I said wow

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/picardonhealth/status/1339339454255947779

[Flannel Boy]

"Lockdown" deaths:
https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1339475997427580928

"What happened to the flu, bro?"
https://twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1339500293524959234

[Flannel Boy]

I don't understand why people think essential workers should get vaccinated ahead of the elderly. If infected, an 85 year-old has a ~1,500x greater chance of dying compared to a 30 year-old essential worker. Using life expectancy, we're still talking about 187.5x years of life (for males).

The strategy would make sense only in a country with few cases, right? If you vaccinate essential workers in such a country, the country's relatively low community spread would be that much lower. No one gets it. No one dies from it.

[Nintex]

 +12 844 cases

Macron has fallen

The Netherlands / Belgium and Germany call upon their citizens to stay home and not cross the border.
https://twitter.com/MinPres/status/1339495655501393920

[Madrun Badrun]

I don't understand why people think essential workers should get vaccinated ahead of the elderly. If infected, an 85 year-old has a ~1,500x greater chance of dying compared to a 30 year-old essential worker. Using life expectancy, we're still talking about 187.5x years of life (for males).

The strategy would make sense only in a country with few cases, right? If you vaccinate essential workers in such a country, the country's relatively low community spread would be that much lower. No one gets it. No one dies from it.

Some armchair ideas I have:

1) There are fewer healthcare workers and they interact with more elderly.  So I think the idea is if the elderly only interact with healthcare workers like in a care home, then stopping workers from being vectors keeps the elderly safe.  I think a lot of planning is focused on care homes.

2) If the elderly are not in care homes, you have logistics to deal with getting them the shot, which can be postponed if you prioritize healthcare works.

3) There is not enough for all elderly, so this avoids the optics/stress of grandma calling the hospital 8 times and keep getting told to wait.

[Nintex]

No vaccinations in December like some other EU member states because IT systems need to be updated.

Also no mail in ballots for the General Election in March for anyone younger than 70 because it is not and I quote "desirable".
I quote our secretary of the interior: "When people vote in person you can check if a vote hasn't been tampered with or a voter hasn't been influenced, with mail-in ballots you cannot"

[Flannel Boy]

I don't understand why people think essential workers should get vaccinated ahead of the elderly. If infected, an 85 year-old has a ~1,500x greater chance of dying compared to a 30 year-old essential worker. Using life expectancy, we're still talking about 187.5x years of life (for males).

The strategy would make sense only in a country with few cases, right? If you vaccinate essential workers in such a country, the country's relatively low community spread would be that much lower. No one gets it. No one dies from it.

Some armchair ideas I have:

1) There are fewer healthcare workers and they interact with more elderly.  So I think the idea is if the elderly only interact with healthcare workers like in a care home, then stopping workers from being vectors keeps the elderly safe.  I think a lot of planning is focused on care homes.

2) If the elderly are not in care homes, you have logistics to deal with getting them the shot, which can be postponed if you prioritize healthcare works.

3) There is not enough for all elderly, so this avoids the optics/stress of grandma calling the hospital 8 times and keep getting told to wait.

I agree with vaccinating health care workers first. By essential workers I meant the 85 million workers (according to the CDC) who work as grocery cashiers, teachers, police officers, delivery people, etc.