You're not doing anyone any good by talking about the stuff you're supposed to not be watching.
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I don’t think being asexual should be find sex icky by default. Didn’t other user said he was asexual but masturbated daily and had many kinks?
In retrospect, I guess it shouldn’t be surprising that the very first bullet point in this thread’s pinned staff post is violated by the administration and users constantly. After a while, when you can’t seem to have the back of any marginalized community here it may come time to drop the progressive branding and just admit you want to be an old-school video game message board version of Reddit.Really sad to see the ResetEra experiment continually fail, and I’m sorry the trans community here has to be the latest victims of this cowardice and embarrassing need to consume at all cost.
Obviously I will eat a ban of 6 months for typing which words I would want to type there, as big mature words aren't allowed here, games filled with tits and hatred are perfectly fine, as is people pissing on the marginalised.I know what words I typed there, for that poster, describing them, you know the words I wrote, as will any cowardly impotent mod who would ever be arsed to come in here for any reason. For this site that will allow that tone deaf, insulting bullshit to happen after what happened this evening that it was allowed to come back like that, is fucking disgusting. Shame ERA, Shame!Oh yeah you know exactly which words I used there, all of them. That one too. I used it.****s
Quote from: KyuujiAbout as tone deaf as you could get.
About as tone deaf as you could get.
The replies in the Night City thread are incredibly fucked up. I am honestly in shock at how tone deaf it is.I used to be fine with at least having all the evidence and concerns of this thread plastered all over the OT but now I absolutely do not want an OT of this game at all. Any gesture they try to do in the OT will be meaningless to me and will only exist to make everyone playing the game just feel better about themselves for doing the bare minimum.
Of course there wasn't an apology.Of course he continued to ignore all of us.Of course he only showed empathy towards his supporters.
This says everything that's needed about his character.
Dennis8K said:Thank you toBlack ChambervestanAndroid Sophiaand any other users or moderators/admins that are involved in crafting the OT. I am sure it isn't easy.I am very much looking forward to the OT and I am sure it will be both spectacular and highlight the criticisms that have been raised against CDPR.
Everyone is not welcome when one community is consistently saying they feel unwelcome. What is even happening right now.
QuoteThank you for maintaining the thread and the discord despite everything that's been going on. I know it can't be easy to walk the line like you have been doing. And I'm glad you have maintained the idea that everyone is welcome for the OT. I think it's important that the thread is open for everyone as well as the discussion that takes place within it.Can we define everyone? If everyone is included in the truest sense of the word then the thread will be an unsafe place for people from the trans community.
Thank you for maintaining the thread and the discord despite everything that's been going on. I know it can't be easy to walk the line like you have been doing. And I'm glad you have maintained the idea that everyone is welcome for the OT. I think it's important that the thread is open for everyone as well as the discussion that takes place within it.
As of this point, the fact they are acting being treated like a hero has come home when that hero implicated I was harassing and antagonizing them for a firm answer on inclusion is to much for me. Though I even told one poster last night -who was kind, I’m very grateful to that Ally so thank you- but we both knew exactly how this would play out lol.I’ll stick around and see how they handle this OP as I feel like it’s my job to be here with all our Trans Sisters/Brothers/Non-Binaries and that and I don’t believe them, but after I will be leaving Era.I don’t say this to drum up anxiety between these two groups, but I am not some of you who have it in you to continue.I moved from Gaf all those years ago when we saw just how we where viewed, I’ve seen most of these faces longer than half of them realize and no amount of Trans mods will change that we operate on what Cis are willing to give us and when they are willing to do it and it’s barely better then Gaf.Even Mods have said both OT creators handled this like shit, and one came in and dismissed our communities and the other made it personal for me.I look forward to the next few days with you all.
QuoteQuoteThank you for maintaining the thread and the discord despite everything that's been going on. I know it can't be easy to walk the line like you have been doing. And I'm glad you have maintained the idea that everyone is welcome for the OT. I think it's important that the thread is open for everyone as well as the discussion that takes place within it.Can we define everyone? If everyone is included in the truest sense of the word then the thread will be an unsafe place for people from the trans community.what
People are more upset they can't have the circle jerk hype thread, than they are with the actual issues, expected I guess, but still surprised people aren't even hiding it anymore, the actual OT will probably be even less subtle about it. The it's better to educate and keep the conversation going than turn people away was a complete failure.I'm just sorry Transera.
Seeing the continued attempts to shit up the reopened thread get completely ignored makes me think they made a pact to just talk about the game and nothing else in the discord. One post RAGE, next post talking about the Meta critic prediction for the game
QuotePeople are more upset they can't have the circle jerk hype thread, than they are with the actual issues, expected I guess, but still surprised people aren't even hiding it anymore, the actual OT will probably be even less subtle about it. The it's better to educate and keep the conversation going than turn people away was a complete failure.I'm just sorry Transera.
To show my support and also as a sign of protest, I'll be leaving this place as well, unless some drastic changes happen.Hopefully, we can find a place that truly welcomes and supports marginalized people. ResetEra failed to be that place. It failed hard.
This is a completely disgusting and tone-deaf post and you haven't even apologized
Quote from: BethCyraAs of this point, the fact they are acting being treated like a hero has come home when that hero implicated I was harassing and antagonizing them for a firm answer on inclusion is to much for me. Though I even told one poster last night -who was kind, I’m very grateful to that Ally so thank you- but we both knew exactly how this would play out lol.I’ll stick around and see how they handle this OP as I feel like it’s my job to be here with all our Trans Sisters/Brothers/Non-Binaries and that and I don’t believe them, but after I will be leaving Era.I don’t say this to drum up anxiety between these two groups, but I am not some of you who have it in you to continue.I moved from Gaf all those years ago when we saw just how we where viewed, I’ve seen most of these faces longer than half of them realize and no amount of Trans mods will change that we operate on what Cis are willing to give us and when they are willing to do it and it’s barely better then Gaf.Even Mods have said both OT creators handled this like shit, and one came in and dismissed our communities and the other made it personal for me.I look forward to the next few days with you all.
QuoteTo show my support and also as a sign of protest, I'll be leaving this place as well, unless some drastic changes happen.Hopefully, we can find a place that truly welcomes and supports marginalized people. ResetEra failed to be that place. It failed hard.
Treated like a hero for "coming back" after being called out for leading us on instead of giving us a straight answer. What a fucking joke. This site is showing it CANNOT have Cyberpunk discussion without throwing us under the bus.
Honestly feel shit on how we are letting down our trans community here, I can understand why people will leave, this site is meant to be fun and it shouldn't be a source of pain for you guys, but I just know that without our Trans community, this place would be so much lesser. I want you all to know how much I've learnt from you guys and appreciate you. I truly believe your perspectives have helped me be a better person and I'm really grateful for that
Quote from: LamptrampObviously I will eat a ban of 6 months for typing which words I would want to type there, as big mature words aren't allowed here, games filled with tits and hatred are perfectly fine, as is people pissing on the marginalised.I know what words I typed there, for that poster, describing them, you know the words I wrote, as will any cowardly impotent mod who would ever be arsed to come in here for any reason. For this site that will allow that tone deaf, insulting bullshit to happen after what happened this evening that it was allowed to come back like that, is fucking disgusting. Shame ERA, Shame!Oh yeah you know exactly which words I used there, all of them. That one too. I used it.****s
The fact that they are still going "sorry you had to go through that shit", reducing the issues to "sniping", and the fact that apparently they were in a discord and talking about it...well, it makes me feel unwelcome 💯
Quote from: LamptrampI have never felt more mute or unwelcome than the posts immediately following the reopening of this thread."THANKS OP, HYPE!!!" without a hint of introspection or empathy, made me sad to be a member.never?
I have never felt more mute or unwelcome than the posts immediately following the reopening of this thread."THANKS OP, HYPE!!!" without a hint of introspection or empathy, made me sad to be a member.
To everyone else reading this: I won't try to convince you to leave with us, but I want you to know this: you do not deserve the treatment this forum is giving you. You deserve better. So. Much. Better. If we ever find ourselves somewhere else, I hope that place will be what we want this to be.
You would think for as much as staff went to bat for Black Chamber, they would have made it clear that he really fucked up and should have been forthright from the beginning. I would have hoped there would have been a serious discussion that he needed to make amends and apologize for the incident after the thread was unlocked to set things back to normal, not come back in with a self congratulatory post after his own posts got the thread locked in the first place and caused the mess. But that's none of my business.
Kinda feel like any hope for changing ended today. Like an invisible acceptance that this will never improve.
At what point does completely ignoring someone/a group of people turn into an intentionally hostile act?Because I feel like we are way passed it at this point.
Quote from: Sweet NicoleYou would think for as much as staff went to bat for Black Chamber, they would have made it clear that he really fucked up and should have been forthright from the beginning. I would have hoped there would have been a serious discussion that he needed to make amends and apologize for the incident after the thread was unlocked to set things back to normal, not come back in with a self congratulatory post after his own posts got the thread locked in the first place and caused the mess. But that's none of my business.
Still awake watching that shit show. Maybe someone can create a discord? I kinda enjoy the thing we had going in here and it would suck if people just leave one by one during the next days and weeks.
I honestly feel we should be better people and ban the game from having an OT. It will be big disgrace to the Trans community if there is an OT for this openly horrible company.
This game doesn't deserve a bloody OT if this is how people are going to act
Quote from: benjipwns on December 05, 2020, 07:57:59 PMQuote from: Sweet NicoleYou would think for as much as staff went to bat for Black Chamber, they would have made it clear that he really fucked up and should have been forthright from the beginning. I would have hoped there would have been a serious discussion that he needed to make amends and apologize for the incident after the thread was unlocked to set things back to normal, not come back in with a self congratulatory post after his own posts got the thread locked in the first place and caused the mess. But that's none of my business. They've rewritten history to the point that it was Black Chambers posts that got the thread locked. Wow
QuoteStill awake watching that shit show. Maybe someone can create a discord? I kinda enjoy the thing we had going in here and it would suck if people just leave one by one during the next days and weeks.A TransEra discord you say? Tell me more...
I think at this point a full blown ban on Cyberpunk is warranted. If ERA is ever going to be seen as a safe place for minorities to post there needs to be a strong message sent.
I'm getting to that point, I was for keeping the discussion open before so that trans members had a safe place to discuss but that's not happening, so what's the point?
Was there even an apology???
Quoteyou can't make people apologize if they don't want to yall.you can't make us stop trying
you can't make people apologize if they don't want to yall.
Let me be clear about something:The main reason I didn't respond to the question of "Are you going to include a statement in the OT thread about Trans Awareness?" was because I already planned to do so. I said "Everyone is welcome" hoping that would suffice.That was a mistake on my part and for that I sincerely apologize.I should have said clearly: "Yes, I will say something in the OT and link Kyuuji's thread as well".It was always the intention to include a statement regarding CDPR's divisive history towards the Trans Community and also to welcome the TransEra members to the OT.When I said "Everyone is welcome" - I meant it. Heterosexual, Homosexual, Transgender, Cisgender, Non-Binary - everyone. I meant no offense by it and I certainly didn't expect the situation to explode the way it did in my silence.I will do better on the communication front, as I want to be as clear, honest and accommodating as I possibly can with all of you.I love this place and I love all of you. I don't have a single member on ignore - and that's a fact. I listen to what all of you have to say - be it good or bad. Sometimes I feel that by engaging in some of the situations that have happened recently, it would be a disservice to respond at all, as I might not get the right point across - or worse, to make things escalate by being understanding and kind. It's a strange predicament to find oneself in - but I only want what is best for this place, so feel free to lay your grievances with me alongside any praise.Again, I'm laid bare here. I only want everyone to get along and enjoy the content that I create. No fighting or lashing out - just fun discussions about the things we are passionate about.No hate - all love.That is truly all I want🙏
games filled with tits and hatred
You're full of shitFuck off
ResetEra looking more like the old site everyday...
If we allow this game to be continued posting, we are no better than the old place.
It's phrased in such a way to really make TransEra seem unreasonable.
Can I just say that this would never, ever happen?Love and understanding is... kinda all the people wanted here.
"I thought my 'all lives matter' statement was good enough" is some milquetoast gaslighting I gotta say.
It's not surprising that they're still manufacturing drama since the entire controversy is manufactured in the first place. Literally, nothing about the ad, the game, or the company has been proven to be transphobic and they're just getting angrier that the world won't conform to their made-up narrative. This is some QAnon shit and the mods have let it fester for way too long.
