Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[Don Rumata]

Reminds me of the "i love sex workers, they just shouldn't be able to use any major payment processor nor any mainstream social media platform, so i can wack off to my deviant shit by night AND get to play the moral crusader by day." 

This post in particular made me laugh:

Front and center in a Sony showcase among the likes of God of War, Star Wars and Spider-Man no less. What message does this send to women who are into (or thinking about getting into) games?

Capeshit and manchildren icons, such prestige. 

EDIT: Beaten like that guy's dick when the next Pokemon trailer hits.

[Pissy F Benny]

like the big cheif said, it all boils down to "i don't like it so no one is is allowed to like it either"

like a 6 year old having a tantrum

[tiesto]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tales-of-arise-spoilers-its-2021-and-were-still-be-subjected-to-terrible-hot-springs-scenes.484330/

  a big RPG has a hot springs scene (surprise surprise), time to man the battle-stations

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tales-of-arise-spoilers-its-2021-and-were-still-be-subjected-to-terrible-hot-springs-scenes.484330/page-2#post-73055797

User Banned (Duration Pending Review): Dismissing Concerns Around Sexism; History of Trolling

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tales-of-arise-spoilers-its-2021-and-were-still-be-subjected-to-terrible-hot-springs-scenes.484330/page-2#post-73059811

User Banned (Duration Pending Review): Concern Trolling Around Concerns of Sexism; Prior Ban for Inflammatory Generalization

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tales-of-arise-spoilers-its-2021-and-were-still-be-subjected-to-terrible-hot-springs-scenes.484330/page-2#post-73061074

User Banned (1 Month): Concern Trolling Around Concerns of Sexism

Hot spring hijinx are a lazy cliche (and yeah you always have the same jokes - the perv trying to peek at the women, the flat-chested girl being shocked that the most modest party member is actually super-stacked, etc) but 99% of the games that use it have ways to skip it (if it's not even optional to begin with), and if it really bothers these people they should just do it - I'm pretty sure that they're not gonna miss any story exhibition or anything all that important if they just skip the 5 minute hot spring scene sitting in the middle of their 50 hour RPG.

Also, funnily enough, the Tales series has a very large female fanbase (at least in Japan, though I do know a few American women who like them) - https://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/26/why-90-of-fans-at-tales-of-festival-are-female

EDIT: New page - Sheena cosplay:

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[Jansen]

    Isn't it kind of good to actually have a diverse offer though? This game doesn't ruin Dokev

my steam library and H-game library are diverse but I still don't think this needed to be advertised at an event like this. Would I want sony to have a gameplay video of Haydee to show off the PS5? hell no. dude she has a boob sock in here.

So this lil bitch does like smut, but wants it kept in the closet.
 

Most regulars in the Cunts Should Wear Burqas thread let slip at some point the fan “fiction” (smut), fan “art” (smut), music videos (smut), cosplay (smut), or shipping wars (smut) they partake in. But somehow that’s good and empowering, but what everyone else does isn’t

You mean they're hypocrites? No way!

[Raist]

Aren't most erotic fanfiction writers women? Like nearly entirely?

Absolutely no "objectification" going on here, nope.

[jorma]

like the big cheif said, it all boils down to "i don't like it so no one is is allowed to like it either"

like a 6 year old having a tantrum

I'm pretty sure most of those dudes actually like it a LOT more than normal. And that might be why they call everyone else a pervert for liking it. 

[jorma]

Sort of like those "traditional family values" politicians that end up getting dragged out of a crack den catering to gay doggers

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

what's up with the word pervert anyway

"anyone who thirsts after this game is a pervert"

per·vert
verb
/pərˈvərt/
alter (something) from its original course, meaning, or state to a distortion or corruption of what was first intended.
"he was charged with conspiring to pervert the course of justice"

/ˈpərvərt/
a person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable.

it's abnormal to like ass and titties?

deeply deviant behaviour by era standards  :nepenthe

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tales-of-arise-spoilers-its-2021-and-were-still-be-subjected-to-terrible-hot-springs-scenes.484330/

  a big RPG has a hot springs scene (surprise surprise), time to man the battle-stations

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tales-of-arise-spoilers-its-2021-and-were-still-be-subjected-to-terrible-hot-springs-scenes.484330/page-2#post-73055797

User Banned (Duration Pending Review): Dismissing Concerns Around Sexism; History of Trolling

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tales-of-arise-spoilers-its-2021-and-were-still-be-subjected-to-terrible-hot-springs-scenes.484330/page-2#post-73059811

User Banned (Duration Pending Review): Concern Trolling Around Concerns of Sexism; Prior Ban for Inflammatory Generalization

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tales-of-arise-spoilers-its-2021-and-were-still-be-subjected-to-terrible-hot-springs-scenes.484330/page-2#post-73061074

User Banned (1 Month): Concern Trolling Around Concerns of Sexism

Hot spring hijinx are a lazy cliche (and yeah you always have the same jokes - the perv trying to peek at the women, the flat-chested girl being shocked that the most modest party member is actually super-stacked, etc) but 99% of the games that use it have ways to skip it (if it's not even optional to begin with), and if it really bothers these people they should just do it - I'm pretty sure that they're not gonna miss any story exhibition or anything all that important if they just skip the 5 minute hot spring scene sitting in the middle of their 50 hour RPG.

Also, funnily enough, the Tales series has a very large female fanbase (at least in Japan, though I do know a few American women who like them) - https://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/26/why-90-of-fans-at-tales-of-festival-are-female

They even banned these guys  for merely explaining the cultural context

It’s a troupe in Japanese anime. Terrible through our western lens but we have to acknowledge our cultural biases for things that aren’t made with us in mind. We may not laugh at it but in Japan they may find it way funnier than us since bath houses are more prevalent.

It’s not an excuse. I don’t find it funny either. I hate any form of fan service because I feel it takes away from the more serious story telling at play. But when I see people say “Japanese media needs to catch up” that reaks of the same cultural biases I’ve been hearing from people my whole life talking down on aspects of black culture they may not understand. I’m just saying that while I do agree from my perspective it is gross, fanservice in general and reductive, I must acknowledge I have a specific lens growing up in the USA I may not understand from a content creator in Japan. Like over here we find gross shit funny for some reason and I know that confuses other countries which may find a more dry humor funny. It’s worth a study than a blanket statement to me.

I agree, but art is a window into the mind of a creator and also the culture that brought them up. Which is why I said that we should try to understand why it is so prevalent as opposed to assuming we have the “better” culture. Cause if you dive into the numbers Japan has a MUCH lower sexual assault rate than the US. So I’m just saying let’s not cast a wide net of judgement of a whole culture as if we are much better off.

sorry a comment that said they need to catch up just really bothered me a lot.

He wasn't even defending the scene. Just explaining where it comes from and maybe don't call the devs degenerates.

(calling devs lazy is an instant ban though  )

[Uncle]

I can't help my thirst, I grew up steeped in the cultural context of one of those problematic af african tribes where they go around topless all day
 

[BikeJesus]

Calling users perverts for liking sexy women is ok, but if you called furries perverts, you would be permed.

[D3RANG3D]

I can't help my thirst, I grew up steeped in the cultural context of one of those problematic af african tribes where they go around topless all day
 

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[Propagandhim]

Aren't most erotic fanfiction writers women? Like nearly entirely?

Absolutely no "objectification" going on here, nope.

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Women's romance novels are a male power fantasy. 

 

[team filler]

    Isn't it kind of good to actually have a diverse offer though? This game doesn't ruin Dokev

my steam library and H-game library are diverse but I still don't think this needed to be advertised at an event like this. Would I want sony to have a gameplay video of Haydee to show off the PS5? hell no. dude she has a boob sock in here.

So this lil bitch does like smut, but wants it kept in the closet.
 

Most regulars in the Cunts Should Wear Burqas thread let slip at some point the fan “fiction” (smut), fan “art” (smut), music videos (smut), cosplay (smut), or shipping wars (smut) they partake in. But somehow that’s good and empowering, but what everyone else does isn’t

these reee pervs don't sounds so bad tbh 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

And him.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-8#post-73077163

Everything needs to be mom approved, or it's shameful apparently.

User Banned (duration pending admin review): Dismissing sexism in design across multiple posts and threads

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Edit: https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-9#post-73083934

I want to read more about how fictional characters have no agency and how the character should wear real pants from superhero fans with a skin-tight full body suit character as their avatar, I haven't had enough yet.

Oh fuck. Civil war pending, shirts vs skins.

User banned (1 month): Sexist trolling

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-3#post-73031269

User Banned (1 Week): Inappropriate Commentary

Trailer summary

Ass shots: Dozens
Ideas not directly stolen from games made by Platinum Games (with a focus on Nier Automata): Zero

I'm sold.

[Jansen]

This thread is now re-opened to further discussion. We've noticed many posts making light of the blatant sexist design decisions in the game. This kind of talk is insulting to our women posters and fosters an unwelcoming environment all around. Any further posts dismissing the sexism in the game will be met with strict moderation.

Lol Morrigan is such a bitch

"fosters an unwelcoming environment all around"

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-7#post-73074766

User banned (duration pending admin review): Dismissing concerns around sexism. Prior severe ban for sexist concern trolling.

Her individually defined buttocks are part of her character.

Maybe try to look past the crack in her character…

The game’s combat looked super exciting, Korean games outside of MMOs branching out to worldwide is also a welcome thing

[Hap Shaughnessy]

The rest:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-4#post-73037725

User banned (2 weeks): Handwaving sexist character designs. History of similar behavior

https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-6#post-73052038

User Banned (2 weeks): Dismissive commentary around objectification

https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-8#post-73079734

User Banned (1 month): Whataboutism, Dismissing Concerns of Sexism Over Multiple Posts; Long History of Misrepresenting Other User's Arguments

https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-9#post-73083316

User banned (1 month): Sexism. Trolling. Antagonizing another member. Account in junior phase.

[HaughtyFrank]

This thread is now re-opened to further discussion. We've noticed many posts making light of the blatant sexist design decisions in the game. This kind of talk is insulting to our women posters and fosters an unwelcoming environment all around. Any further posts dismissing the sexism in the game will be met with strict moderation.

Usually this warning would imply that this will be enforced as of now. Instead everyone is already banned.

Also they can fuck off claiming that this about making women posters welcome. These assholes just ban any women who doesn't toe that same line

[Propagandhim]

Say what you will about the Taliban (I myself, don't approve!) but they would never let the women of that country play a game like this.

[Raist]

Aren't most erotic fanfiction writers women? Like nearly entirely?

Absolutely no "objectification" going on here, nope.

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Women's romance novels are a male power fantasy. 

 

 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/super-smash-bros-ultimate-downloadable-contents-discussion-thread-23-final-destination-additional-diversity-pending.480472/page-47#post-73048258

User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns Around Sexism

Did I miss a memo where hot springs are just horny now?

Should I be worried for the residents of Thermopolis, Wyoming?

Morrigan is really on a roll.

[ShutUp]

Project Eve thread has been locked. Get ready for the bloodbath.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-10#post-73089184

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implying that in a sane world, there should be any sort of consequence at all for declaring yourself a pervert

People like this are the ones constantly talking about ass shots and OH NO BEWBS for this game. Most others are just excited because its a new IP they think looks fun. Goddamn these people are some virgins.

[ShutUp]

This thread is now re-opened to further discussion. We've noticed many posts making light of the blatant sexist design decisions in the game. This kind of talk is insulting to our women posters and fosters an unwelcoming environment all around. Any further posts dismissing the sexism in the game will be met with strict moderation.

Usually this warning would imply that this will be enforced as of now. Instead everyone is already banned.

Also they can fuck off claiming that this about making women posters welcome. These assholes just ban any women who doesn't toe that same line

Imagine if they actually asked women (outside Era, because most on Era are too scared of being banned to say otherwise) what they thought of the design. Bet most wouldn’t give a shit.

[ShutUp]

Some of these people have no doubt watched Handmaids Tale with an erection. That kind of world is what they dream of, based on these Era posts.

[BIONIC]

Some of these people have no doubt watched Handmaids Tale with an erection.

I mean, who hasn’t? 

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-in-defence-of-god-of-wars-thor.484756/page-6#post-73114714

He's proving incredibly popular in the gay bear community btw. Dude is hot!

☺️

Saying Eve is popular in the straight community would get you permed

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-in-defence-of-god-of-wars-thor.484756/page-6#post-73114714

He's proving incredibly popular in the gay bear community btw. Dude is hot!

☺️

Saying Eve is popular in the straight community would get you permed

Dude is hot!

I suddenly feel very unwelcome.

[Potato]

All this drama for a game that is probably going to be all flash no substance

You described the current PS5 lineup right there!

[Kurt Russell]

Imagine if they actually asked women (outside Era, because most on Era are too scared of being banned to say otherwise) what they thought of the design. Bet most wouldn’t give a shit.

My wife rolled her eyes and then asked if I'd pre-ordered it yet

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[Ghoul]

So help me god, if you don’t agree with me I’ll run back to sexualized woman thread

 

[HaughtyFrank]

I open my twitter and what do I have to see???

https://twitter.com/yuretalks/status/1436093527407177728

Begone you Jezebel!

[Ghoul]

 

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-11#post-73114591

All these people jumping in just to say, "Wow, looks amazing."

You're not slick.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-182#post-73087237

The Project Eve thread was the first time I've been legitimately, full-spec angry on Era in months. I had to step away for my own sanity.

I like the person who got mad at me for being mean to the now permabanned member who was just wildly sexist (and who it turns out had previously been banned for defending underage sexualization).

Fuck decorum sometimes.

Seriously. The folks who tried to avatar-quote me, as if Rogue's super suit is somehow any dimension similar to what these devs are doing with their teenage girl protagonist, made me see red for a second.

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Literally the same picture, amirite? /s

What the hell is wrong with you?

Ava quoting Rogue and equating it to this game is probably one of the most disingenuous things I’ve ever seen on this forum. Full stop.

[BikeJesus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-11#post-73114591

All these people jumping in just to say, "Wow, looks amazing."

You're not slick.

So now you are not allowed to say you like what you saw. They are all fucked in the head.

[cosmicblizzard]

KujoJousuke is a fan of Vtubers, specifically the ones that really lean into being horny as fuck like Marine (who also is a big fan of underage sexualization mind you).  Dude's performative as hell in there.

[Uncle]

do it motherfuckers, I dare you

ban people for saying "game looks good"

inflammatory comment, I mean clearly it inflamed BossAttack that makes it inflammatory

[Uncle]

[BrokenVerses]

So this is the new Cyberpunk for them. Looking forward to a handful of posters making every thread unreadable for months on end.

[wsippel]

Love the "looks like a generic Korean MMO" comments in the Eve thread, clearly written by people who have no fucking clue who Kim Hyung Tae is. Also, his wife and fellow character designer kkuem isn't exactly known for modest illustrations either: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lxnn9O

And lets not forget their partner-in-crime Hyulla: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/kDlqm6

Thinking they'd maybe dial back the sexy is funny as fuck. Hyulla issued a public apology because the very prominent ass jiggle from the Nikke reveal trailer was toned down in later gameplay footage. He went on record explaining that it was just an animation glitch or something and that he'd make sure there'd be lots and lots of jiggle in the final game. They know their audience.

[ShutUp]

the sad thing is that the game *did not* need to be so overtly sexualized. feels like the devs shot themselves in the foot sales-wise by shamelessly pandering to straight cis men.

Fucking what? And apparently lesbians can’t like the game for the sexy time main character.

[ShutUp]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-182#post-73087237

The Project Eve thread was the first time I've been legitimately, full-spec angry on Era in months. I had to step away for my own sanity.

I like the person who got mad at me for being mean to the now permabanned member who was just wildly sexist (and who it turns out had previously been banned for defending underage sexualization).

Fuck decorum sometimes.

Seriously. The folks who tried to avatar-quote me, as if Rogue's super suit is somehow any dimension similar to what these devs are doing with their teenage girl protagonist, made me see red for a second.

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Literally the same picture, amirite? /s

What the hell is wrong with you?

Ava quoting Rogue and equating it to this game is probably one of the most disingenuous things I’ve ever seen on this forum. Full stop.

The Project Eve character is entirely covered up in that shot  OMG WAIT I SEE BARE ARM

[Uncle]

ShiftUp just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but prudishness and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Japan where you can become successful by making games with titties in them. If you objectify women in America, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Project Eve, nor will they purchase any of Sony's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but ShiftUp has alienated an entire market with this move.

ShiftUp, publicly apologize and cancel Project Eve or you can kiss your business goodbye.

[Uncle]

fuck man that's literally not even a parody

 

[ShutUp]

So this is the new Cyberpunk for them. Looking forward to a handful of posters making every thread unreadable for months on end.

It’s a shame the mods have no spine and can’t just tell those posters to take a hike if they don’t like people daring to be excited about an upcoming game. At least SOME of the mods have got to feel that way personally but don’t want to deal with these privileged assholes threatening mass exodus number three or four from the forum.

[Uncle]

So this is the new Cyberpunk for them. Looking forward to a handful of posters making every thread unreadable for months on end.

It’s a shame the mods have no spine and can’t just tell those posters to take a hike if they don’t like people daring to be excited about an upcoming game. At least SOME of the mods have got to feel that way personally but don’t want to deal with these privileged assholes threatening mass exodus number three or four from the forum.

imagine every mod including morrigan and nepenthe are secretly like (well personally I think it looks like a great game and am not bothered by the ass and titties, but I have to keep up appearances for the sake of the others and defend imaginary women who might be offended)

[ShutUp]

BossAttack in that thread openly calling someone a dumbass. Amazing what you can get away with when you are a protected member.

[HaughtyFrank]

Love the "looks like a generic Korean MMO" comments in the Eve thread, clearly written by people who have no fucking clue who Kim Hyung Tae is. Also, his wife and fellow character designer kkuem isn't exactly known for modest illustrations either: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lxnn9O

And lets not forget their partner-in-crime Hyulla: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/kDlqm6

Thinking they'd maybe dial back the sexy is funny as fuck. Hyulla issued a public apology because the very prominent ass jiggle from the Nikke reveal trailer was toned down in later gameplay footage. He went on record explaining that it was just an animation glitch or something and that he'd make sure there'd be lots and lots of jiggle in the final game. They know their audience.

According to someone in that thread this son of a bitch even founded the studio. He founded a legit studio to make his horny game.

New personal hero

[clothedmacuser]

 

Yet another game where you have to say, "fuck this game, it looks awesome, but fuck it!"

[benjipwns]

User Banned (1 week): Inflammatory comparison.

Do we have to dig into this tired old trope?

Like... you don't have to if you don't want to. Just don't post in the thread.

Let me clarify then.

As a person with an identical twin, I’ve had to deal with stupid “which of you is the evil twin?” micro-aggressions from young childhood. I find this entire trope to be very deeply and personally offensive. It is a shitty trope.

So i’m not going to just tolerate and ignore it any more than a black person should be expected to tolerate something racist.

[Crumb]

They were going so well until they mentioned black lol

[HaughtyFrank]

Meanwhile comparing butt shots in a videogame to putting black people in zoos is approved by the mods

[cosmicblizzard]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/project-eve-first-trailer-ps5-pc.484243/page-12#post-73134898

Gleefully consuming, participating in and rewarding objectionable content without criticism, says something about the person.

Okay, I think this guy is a troll/alt because that's a ridiculous standard to hold people to in the context of a gaming discussion board.  And the guy even has an avatar from an Uchikoshi game, which can get pretty damn pervy.

[Boredfrom]

User Banned (1 week): Inflammatory comparison.

Do we have to dig into this tired old trope?

Like... you don't have to if you don't want to. Just don't post in the thread.

Let me clarify then.

As a person with an identical twin, I’ve had to deal with stupid “which of you is the evil twin?” micro-aggressions from young childhood. I find this entire trope to be very deeply and personally offensive. It is a shitty trope.

So i’m not going to just tolerate and ignore it any more than a black person should be expected to tolerate something racist.

So that guy is the evil twin.

[Lonewulfeus]

User Banned (1 week): Inflammatory comparison.

Do we have to dig into this tired old trope?

Like... you don't have to if you don't want to. Just don't post in the thread.

Let me clarify then.

As a person with an identical twin, I’ve had to deal with stupid “which of you is the evil twin?” micro-aggressions from young childhood. I find this entire trope to be very deeply and personally offensive. It is a shitty trope.

So i’m not going to just tolerate and ignore it any more than a black person should be expected to tolerate something racist.

He’s totally the evil twin and he knows it

Fuck you boredfrom!

[Propagandhim]

User Banned (1 week): Inflammatory comparison.

Do we have to dig into this tired old trope?

Like... you don't have to if you don't want to. Just don't post in the thread.

Let me clarify then.

As a person with an identical twin, I’ve had to deal with stupid “which of you is the evil twin?” micro-aggressions from young childhood. I find this entire trope to be very deeply and personally offensive. It is a shitty trope.

So i’m not going to just tolerate and ignore it any more than a black person should be expected to tolerate something racist.

 

[SmokyDave]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamesindustry-employee-survey-at-paradox-interactive-alleges-gender-discrimination-and-mistreatment.482431/#post-72766516

Sadly, this isn't exclusive to the games industry either. This stuff happens in every single company that's big and/or old enough to have old cis white men at the top. It all trickles down from there. People need to get real and realize this isn't a games industry, or entertainment industry problem. This is sadly far faaar bigger.

Hopefully in the future we'll have a lot more women and queer people in those sort of roles, and then hopefully this stuff disappears.

Doesn't Paradox have a female CEO?

That is a big surprise, but nevertheless the point still stands even if it's not completely applicable in this case. Between her and those issues are a lot more old white men in suits that this sort of sexist toxicity is probably enabled by.

Impressive stuff from the Verafied Furry. Makes snap judgement, is totally wrong, repeats snap judgement and keeps it rolling. Definitely someone that would run a company responsibly if given any power whatsoever.