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clothedmacuser

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10320 on: December 28, 2021, 04:15:51 PM »
I'm not really sure what concept of sexualization she has. By saying she thinks Chloe or Nadine from Uncharted are hot she isn't she already sexualizing them?

They are.  And it's fine.  The same way I objectify a cop when they pull me over.  I see them as a cop.  The same goes with a dentist while in the office, or a fireman, or a fisherman.

We objectify people because it's needed to create a schema to navigate life.

One thing I like about Linsdey Eliis was one of her "cultural appropriation," vids she said the act was not inherently wrong.  It matters what you do with it.  That's one thing Era never understood.  These words were created by sociologist who didn't set about to "gotcha," people on the internet.  They created these idea to explain human behaviors.   And lets not forget how painfuly they've distorted the meaning of "white fragility/privilege."
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10321 on: December 28, 2021, 04:31:02 PM »
If only there was an option for the puritans offended by sexy women in games and media. How dare those video game companies force them to play/watch all those games with all that sinful flesh exposed...
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10322 on: December 28, 2021, 05:07:05 PM »
Remember when people were like "Hey there are some trans allegories in the matrix, isn't that cool?" And everyone was like "yeah that's cool"

Now this turned into "A cis director would never be able to make a matrix sequel!!!!"

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You are overestimating their abilities as writers and directors.

Other capable writers/ditectors could easily take the ideas of the lore expansion from Matrix 4 and create good movies out of it.
Similarly you might overestimate a cisgender person's ability to write to a trans experience.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-wb-was-prepared-to-move-on-to-matrix-4-without-the-wachowskis-wb-still-wants-a-fifth-movie-and-for-lana-to-return.532520/page-8
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I'd rather WB not take the creation of one of Hollywood's few trans creators and give it to the multitude of white men being brought up without a hint of sarcasm in this thread. Let them continue.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10323 on: December 28, 2021, 05:08:12 PM »
If only there was an option for the puritans offended by sexy women in games and media. How dare those video game companies force them to play/watch all those games with all that sinful flesh exposed...

It's called priesthood.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10324 on: December 28, 2021, 05:15:48 PM »
Now try to think of how many female characters wear glasses, let alone main characters.

Kamiya, king of representation  :salute

"Glasses! This was something that Kamiya-san really pushed for, as he was aiming to differentiate Bayonetta from other female characters and give her a sense of mystery and intelligence. Of course, I think it is just because he likes girls with glasses."

This is literally from that old article on their website.
What a sick bastard putting his twisted fetish into the game

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10325 on: December 28, 2021, 06:10:48 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-think-tales-of-arise-deserved-the-rave-reviews-it-got.531019/page-3#post-79190632
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User banned (duration pending review): Inflammatory generalizations, history of similar infractions
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Or anime fans that havent played enough it voted for the waifus or consider anime as enough quality instead of you know, a well written characters and plot.

Probably went with the "I had fun in these terrible times of covid when i put a wolf tail in my Alphen UwU". The bar lowers in terrible times.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10326 on: December 28, 2021, 06:48:18 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-why-you-should-upgrade-your-mask-as-the-omicron-variant-spreads-kristen-rogers.532357/page-3#post-79350781
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Or you could shave it rather than being selfish two years into the pandemic
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10327 on: December 28, 2021, 07:40:18 PM »
Now try to think of how many female characters wear glasses, let alone main characters.

Kamiya, king of representation  :salute

"Glasses! This was something that Kamiya-san really pushed for, as he was aiming to differentiate Bayonetta from other female characters and give her a sense of mystery and intelligence. Of course, I think it is just because he likes girls with glasses."

This is literally from that old article on their website.
What a sick bastard putting his twisted fetish into the game
Did you just fetish-shame Kamiya?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10328 on: December 28, 2021, 07:49:54 PM »
i wonder what happened to the lindsay ellis thread? it must take alot of time to answer all those reports

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10329 on: December 28, 2021, 08:11:56 PM »

This happens fucking every time there's a hint of "are we the baddies?"

"Oh actually this topic requires a lot of nuance and we're not prepared for that so lets never talk about it"

It's amazing how dedicated they are to the narrative that, "we never do wrong.  Butttttttttt, when it's does occur, somehow, it's because they deserved it.   But it never happens so lets stop talking about it.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10330 on: December 28, 2021, 08:32:16 PM »
I seem to remember that Girlfriend Reviews channel specifically called Ree out for harassing them and spreading lies. Ree of course denied all knowledge, then upgraded to blaming a few bad apples and promised to do better. Yet, here they are again calling the channel racist and doing the exact same shit that they were called out for. They never learn

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10331 on: December 28, 2021, 09:19:58 PM »
i wonder what happened to the lindsay ellis thread? it must take alot of time to answer all those reports

Cerium will re-open it after he wakes up from his nap.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10332 on: December 28, 2021, 10:15:16 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-hard-to-fuck-up-pizza-which-makes-mama-celeste-such-a-mystery.532742/

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I am no snob, I love me a 99 cent frozen pizza. But this shit right here? Tastes like the cardboard it ships in, I tried different ways of cooking it, different spices. And nothering can save it

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10333 on: December 28, 2021, 10:52:21 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-hard-to-fuck-up-pizza-which-makes-mama-celeste-such-a-mystery.532742/

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I am no snob, I love me a 99 cent frozen pizza. But this shit right here? Tastes like the cardboard it ships in, I tried different ways of cooking it, different spices. And nothering can save it

 :foodcourt

I kind of trust Slayven on his reviews of single serving, 99 cent, frozen pizza.  It seems like a natural area of expertise.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10336 on: December 29, 2021, 05:33:34 AM »
Here's a new ban thanks to Morrigan sicing the mods on this user.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-op-ed-video-game-industry-struggles-to-shake-sexist-attitudes-tae-kim.532267/page-2#post-79348249
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S1 User banned (1 month): Misogynistic rhetoric over a series of posts. Linking to an alt-right source.
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Imagine posting drivel from a bad faith dipshit who rails against SJWs as "a valid opinion"
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Imagine thinking everyone knows everyone on the internet and does a background check on every person they quote. I think the valid opinion of hers is that female gamers want to play sexy characters. I know a few woman in private, who design sexy characters in editors, because that's what they want to play. They don't want to play as ugly character and I disagree with the notion of the poster I quoted that everyone not wanting to play certain characters need to grow up.
Thw heck is S1 User lol

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10337 on: December 29, 2021, 05:41:44 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/2021-%E2%80%9Cgame-that-everyone-roasted-but-i-thought-was-pretty-good%E2%80%9D-of-the-year.532826/

Lots of cyberpunk answers, wonder if they'll lock it  :lol

Cyberpunk 2077 enthusiast Kyuuji really want to post in that thread but she can't.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10338 on: December 29, 2021, 05:42:33 AM »
Here's a new ban thanks to Morrigan sicing the mods on this user.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bloomberg-op-ed-video-game-industry-struggles-to-shake-sexist-attitudes-tae-kim.532267/page-2#post-79348249
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S1 User banned (1 month): Misogynistic rhetoric over a series of posts. Linking to an alt-right source.
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Imagine posting drivel from a bad faith dipshit who rails against SJWs as "a valid opinion"
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Imagine thinking everyone knows everyone on the internet and does a background check on every person they quote. I think the valid opinion of hers is that female gamers want to play sexy characters. I know a few woman in private, who design sexy characters in editors, because that's what they want to play. They don't want to play as ugly character and I disagree with the notion of the poster I quoted that everyone not wanting to play certain characters need to grow up.
Thw heck is S1 User lol

lol he even back tracked and removed the original tweets (describing Melonie Mac as alt right source is beyond absurd either way)

"Misogynistic rhetoric" what?  :confused

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10339 on: December 29, 2021, 07:45:22 AM »
Remember when people were like "Hey there are some trans allegories in the matrix, isn't that cool?" And everyone was like "yeah that's cool"

Now this turned into "A cis director would never be able to make a matrix sequel!!!!"

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You are overestimating their abilities as writers and directors.

Other capable writers/ditectors could easily take the ideas of the lore expansion from Matrix 4 and create good movies out of it.
Similarly you might overestimate a cisgender person's ability to write to a trans experience.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-wb-was-prepared-to-move-on-to-matrix-4-without-the-wachowskis-wb-still-wants-a-fifth-movie-and-for-lana-to-return.532520/page-8

Resurrections was absolute dogshit with not one redeeming quality. I pirated it and was STILL angry about the time wasted watching it. There wasn't a single good scene, which is pretty impressive for a movie based on that IP.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10340 on: December 29, 2021, 08:27:14 AM »
Remember when people were like "Hey there are some trans allegories in the matrix, isn't that cool?" And everyone was like "yeah that's cool"

Now this turned into "A cis director would never be able to make a matrix sequel!!!!"

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You are overestimating their abilities as writers and directors.

Other capable writers/ditectors could easily take the ideas of the lore expansion from Matrix 4 and create good movies out of it.
Similarly you might overestimate a cisgender person's ability to write to a trans experience.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-wb-was-prepared-to-move-on-to-matrix-4-without-the-wachowskis-wb-still-wants-a-fifth-movie-and-for-lana-to-return.532520/page-8

Resurrections was absolute dogshit with not one redeeming quality. I pirated it and was STILL angry about the time wasted watching it. There wasn't a single good scene, which is pretty impressive for a movie based on that IP.

Cool it with the transphobic remarks.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10341 on: December 29, 2021, 10:01:42 AM »
Remember when people were like "Hey there are some trans allegories in the matrix, isn't that cool?" And everyone was like "yeah that's cool"

Now this turned into "A cis director would never be able to make a matrix sequel!!!!"

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You are overestimating their abilities as writers and directors.

Other capable writers/ditectors could easily take the ideas of the lore expansion from Matrix 4 and create good movies out of it.
Similarly you might overestimate a cisgender person's ability to write to a trans experience.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-wb-was-prepared-to-move-on-to-matrix-4-without-the-wachowskis-wb-still-wants-a-fifth-movie-and-for-lana-to-return.532520/page-8

Resurrections was absolute dogshit with not one redeeming quality. I pirated it and was STILL angry about the time wasted watching it. There wasn't a single good scene, which is pretty impressive for a movie based on that IP.

Cool it with the transphobic remarks.

I posted my review on The Bire precisely because it's so transphobic-friendly.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10342 on: December 29, 2021, 10:02:21 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/2021-%E2%80%9Cgame-that-everyone-roasted-but-i-thought-was-pretty-good%E2%80%9D-of-the-year.532826/

Lots of cyberpunk answers, wonder if they'll lock it  :lol

I can't believe those hateful transphobes are getting away with this. I bet they think they're really slick

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10343 on: December 29, 2021, 10:26:08 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/2021-%E2%80%9Cgame-that-everyone-roasted-but-i-thought-was-pretty-good%E2%80%9D-of-the-year.532826/

Lots of cyberpunk answers, wonder if they'll lock it  :lol

I can't believe those hateful transphobes are getting away with this. I bet they think they're really slick

And we are off:
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Hi boys, quick reminder: Cyberpunk‘s still a piece of transphobic propaganda.

Mass report incoming.


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10345 on: December 29, 2021, 10:36:44 AM »
Bloomberg-chan


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10346 on: December 29, 2021, 11:02:59 AM »
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Hi boys, quick reminder: Cyberpunk‘s still a piece of transphobic propaganda.

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« Reply #10347 on: December 29, 2021, 11:13:05 AM »
B-dubs mad people in the ad thread won't report ads in the proper format, despite people explaining why in the worst cases they really can't:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ad-reporting-thread.60928/page-32#post-79341127
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Again, we can't actually track down the problem ads if you guys don't give us the information needed to track them down. Most of the posts in this thread are "Oh this ad sucks" and I can't do anything with that.

[INFO]Browser:
Platform: (e.g. iOS / Android / Desktop)
Offending Ad: (e.g. URL)[/INFO]

Use this format and we can actually track the damn things down and get rid of them.
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The discover ad had been happening for months and it's crazy they haven't removed it yet. Can't get a url because if you hold down on it it just thinks you are scrolling through the site until the discover site pops up.
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I am just now getting a Discover Card Ad that is intrusive and awful to deal with. Can't get a URL due to the above, AND I cannot close it without a pop up being triggered. The pop up even triggers anytime I try to hit post or save. Please remove this ad.

I am on Chrome and I am on Android mobile.
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I appreciate the challenge, but with due respect, we're not paid to do this, and we have a right to complain. It makes this website unreadable and we were promised our experience would not be compromised when the site was purchased. Does the team not have someone in charge of negotiating and integrating these ads? I helped run a website for two years and we had a guy whose whole job was managing this kind of shit. That's the person who needs to be spending hours browsing the site and tracking down this ad. Not your members.
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Yes, we do have someone who talks to the ad company, but we need to be able to point at the specific ads and say "this one is no good get rid of it" and it's harder to do that if we can't point at a specific ad. Not everyone gets every ad--we run hundreds, if not thousands a day--so if you get a bad one help us out and just give us the info so we can get rid of it more easily.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10348 on: December 29, 2021, 11:41:40 AM »
I get trump coin ads and Fox News banners when i go to resetera. They must be furious
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10349 on: December 29, 2021, 11:47:47 AM »
Remember that one time Jet Li told them to fuck off cause they wanted him to hand over all the rights to his martial arts?

Visionaries.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10350 on: December 29, 2021, 12:07:24 PM »
plebs don't know how to enter the developer console and dig through the code to find the offending ad  ::)
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10351 on: December 29, 2021, 12:16:56 PM »
what's really fucked is when I typed "sorting hat" there was a mental acknowledgement that this is a jk rowling reference which is irrevocably transphobic and you briefly wonder if everyone reading that phrase thinks you said it on purpose because you WANT to reference transphobic content and reverse-virtue signal to chuds even though it's literally nothing, just a random reference

all of this is now required thinking in the mind of every good netizen

there is no going back

My linguistic schemas have been completely ruined by being terminally online :(

I'm never letting my son start a social media account.
https://twitter.com/Sturgeons_Law/status/1475516236234641413

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10352 on: December 29, 2021, 12:28:41 PM »
what's really fucked is when I typed "sorting hat" there was a mental acknowledgement that this is a jk rowling reference which is irrevocably transphobic and you briefly wonder if everyone reading that phrase thinks you said it on purpose because you WANT to reference transphobic content and reverse-virtue signal to chuds even though it's literally nothing, just a random reference

all of this is now required thinking in the mind of every good netizen

there is no going back

My linguistic schemas have been completely ruined by being terminally online :(

I'm never letting my son start a social media account.
https://twitter.com/Sturgeons_Law/status/1475516236234641413

A thread about this would go down so well on Resetera  :mouf

That's summit material, Jerry! Summit material!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10353 on: December 29, 2021, 12:34:08 PM »

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10354 on: December 29, 2021, 12:34:24 PM »
User threadbanned (permanent): If you aren't going to watch a show, then don't start arguments in the OT for said show
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Hey Akainu are you going to watch this show at all? Why are you in this thread?
Maybe. Or at least read spoilers. I want to hear how they try to retcon this turd character. If you want me to leave sic a mod on me.
The show started streaming today, this post was from yesterday. So they permanently threadbanned a guy for not watching a show he (and everyone else in the thread at the time) couldn't yet watch.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10355 on: December 29, 2021, 12:41:32 PM »
Gatekeeping how someone consooms media :delicious

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10356 on: December 29, 2021, 12:51:04 PM »
what's really fucked is when I typed "sorting hat" there was a mental acknowledgement that this is a jk rowling reference which is irrevocably transphobic and you briefly wonder if everyone reading that phrase thinks you said it on purpose because you WANT to reference transphobic content and reverse-virtue signal to chuds even though it's literally nothing, just a random reference

all of this is now required thinking in the mind of every good netizen

there is no going back

My linguistic schemas have been completely ruined by being terminally online :(

I'm never letting my son start a social media account.
https://twitter.com/Sturgeons_Law/status/1475516236234641413

A thread about this would go down so well on Resetera  :mouf

That's summit material, Jerry! Summit material!

"This topic requires a degree of intersectionality that has been lacking in threads of the past and present; to the point that [this] thread has become toxic and unmanageable. This thread will remain locked to further discussion."

lana wachowski hair is the #5 google search term associated with her name lol
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10357 on: December 29, 2021, 12:52:09 PM »
Its beyond just sniping at other specific people, there were a chunk of posts that framed it like "even ERA was part of "The Mob"!" (good example is post #91 ITT). You really can't have a discussion with people you've already framed as "the other".

          Textbook disingenuous 'bad faith'
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10359 on: December 29, 2021, 01:33:58 PM »
User Banned (Permanent): Extreme hostility towards other members, junior account

Definitely not gonna watch that, this guy was insulting to devs and really, he's a breathing "pc master race" stereotype. I really wish they would let him go.


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10361 on: December 29, 2021, 01:38:09 PM »
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Assuming good intentions from a transphobic company over transphobic elements in their output is wilful ignorance. Relating the only trans character to a beast isn't a bar I'd set for positive portrayal either, especially when it's the second element in the game to do so.

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Claire used to race Beast with her husband, Dean Russell, who died while participating in one of Night City's death races in 2076. In 2077, V drove Beast while helping Claire win the annual death races.[2]

Pretty sure this is what gaslighting is, dirtbag.

Also, giving odds on Niko in that thread getting banned.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10362 on: December 29, 2021, 01:46:31 PM »
User Banned (permanent): dismissing concerns of sexism, prior ban for dismissing sexual assault

It's funny how at one point in the article it is stated that "Zero Dawn's main protagonist is a female character who doesn't look like a supermodel" when Aloy's face is based off the likeness of Hannah Hoekstra, actress and model. Not to mention how Aloy's body, without all the heavy armor (see the early hours of Zero Dawn, right after the ambush at the Nora trials, when Aloy wakes up after receiving healing treatment inside the mountain), falls under what's considered an "ideal female body type".

So yeah, Tae Kim is doing a laughable job at trying to make a point here, not because of the wrong example he has chosen (and there are many of those in his terribly flawed article), but because there is absolutely nothing wrong about the character design of, say, Bayonetta - one of the most iconic, charismatic and memorable female characters in videogames.

Prior ban:
User Banned (3 Months): Dismissing Sexual Assault, Posting Alt-right Content; Account in Junior Phase

Some months ago I stumbled upon this video:

And after watching it, I have to say that there are some notable inconsistencies to what's being claimed by the accusers, which have led me to believe that Chris might be telling the truth here.

We shall see what happens in court.
Video appears to be gone. Nobody in the thread watched the video either, instead presenting arguments like:
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In this day and age of Youtube being infested with & actively promoting Nazis, misogynists & other bigots/far-right figures excusing & supporting certain kind of behaviour, no one is in the wrong for being careful of whose "sex abuser exoneration" videos they want to watch, let alone take seriously.
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Real cool to be posting videos by a guy who likes and retweets Erik "Gamersgate is not a hate movement it's a consumer rights movement" Kain on Twitter.
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Yeah, I have better things to do then watch a random video "exonerating" someone on Youtube which as far as I can tell is that persons only video.
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This is the ultimate in "just asking questions" bullshit.

That video is literally the only one on that account. The YouTube account exists specifically to defend Chris Avellone. And this person's Twitter is filled with likes and retweets of people like Colin Moriarty, an alt-right Candace Owens-like grifter, a GamerGate defender and someone who tweeted "stay strong, Chris Avellone and Joss Whedon."
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Weird. I wonder how someone stumbles across a video like that.
Well, I now realize where I remember interacting with this poster before.

They recently entered this thread about Ben Moore from Easy Allies making a "if you're transphobic, we don't want your support" statement on Twitter to post this:

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Emmmm... alright, sure... but how is this threadworthy? Ain't this off-topic considering this is the gaming forum?

Starting to see a pattern here.

Also:
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He's really fucking around and gonna find out.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10363 on: December 29, 2021, 01:47:36 PM »
B-dubs mad people in the ad thread won't report ads in the proper format, despite people explaining why in the worst cases they really can't:

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I appreciate the challenge, but with due respect, we're not paid to do this,


Neither are they  :aweshum

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« Reply #10364 on: December 29, 2021, 01:49:44 PM »
There was one brief moment after the initial tweet and backlash where she had the choice between acknowledging the people in good faith who were legitimately upset at the cost of giving a win to the people acting in bad faith or defending herself against the bad faith actors at the cost of further harming those who were acting in good faith. Of course there was nothing she could do to totally put out the fire, as both choices would have still resulted in her getting flak. The former, however, would at least have been a gesture of good faith that could have smoothed things over with the people acting in good faith, even if it meant having egg on her face, and it would have ultimately allowed for it to be clearer who was acting in good faith and who wasn't.

I hate what happened to her, because she does great work and seems to largely be a great person. I also hate that people acting in good faith were harmed by something she said and they are getting lost in everyone only focusing on those acting in bad faith. Everyone lost here except the harassers.


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« Reply #10365 on: December 29, 2021, 01:53:47 PM »
Why would George Michael cover a Limp Bizkit song?

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« Reply #10366 on: December 29, 2021, 02:15:57 PM »
There was one brief moment after the initial tweet and backlash where she had the choice between acknowledging the people in good faith who were legitimately upset at the cost of giving a win to the people acting in bad faith or defending herself against the bad faith actors at the cost of further harming those who were acting in good faith. Of course there was nothing she could do to totally put out the fire, as both choices would have still resulted in her getting flak. The former, however, would at least have been a gesture of good faith that could have smoothed things over with the people acting in good faith, even if it meant having egg on her face, and it would have ultimately allowed for it to be clearer who was acting in good faith and who wasn't.

I hate what happened to her, because she does great work and seems to largely be a great person. I also hate that people acting in good faith were harmed by something she said and they are getting lost in everyone only focusing on those acting in bad faith. Everyone lost here except the harassers.



Who the fuck was harmed by comparing Raya to Avatar?

There were a total of 0 good faith criticisms of that Ellis tweet, like everything else on Twitter it was all people looking to score social points by dunking on the daily scapegoat.

Why would George Michael cover a Limp Bizkit song?

He did it ironically Benji jesus

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« Reply #10367 on: December 29, 2021, 02:29:39 PM »
Who the fuck was harmed by comparing Raya to Avatar?

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« Reply #10368 on: December 29, 2021, 02:29:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-3#post-79428878

Quote from: 4cute, post: 79427618, member: 5865
Its beyond just sniping at other specific people, there were a chunk of posts that framed it like "even ERA was part of "The Mob"!" (good example is post #91 ITT). You really can't have a discussion with people you've already framed as "the other".

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Was it?

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Depends if you include people discussing or criticising someone prominent in a thread on a separate internet forum, as being apart of the direct and targeted harassment she faced.

Totally clears the President bore. Thank you!
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« Reply #10369 on: December 29, 2021, 02:50:18 PM »
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« Reply #10371 on: December 29, 2021, 03:00:35 PM »
Football is "plantation cosplay".  Jesus Christ.   :lol


https://twitter.com/admcgregor85/status/1476059372488908803

 :lol


These people can never leave well enough alone.  It's true football is a dangerous (sure, violent) sport that risks CTE.  If I had a kid, I wouldn't put him in football because of it.  But that's not enough - we have to export that into a package that's sellable - turn it into a racist, oppressive schema that everyone has a hand in perpetuating.  Finally, my doctorate is worth something.   
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« Reply #10372 on: December 29, 2021, 03:05:02 PM »
That emptywheel tweet

Man you can tell they REALLY thought this was some amazing gotcha that would make everyone rethink the way they felt about Madden and his death, it's so bad

Football is "plantation cosplay".  Jesus Christ.   :lol


https://twitter.com/admcgregor85/status/1476059372488908803

 :lol

Jack Thompson won he just doesn't know it yet

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« Reply #10373 on: December 29, 2021, 03:07:40 PM »
It's so transparent that the main goal of those tweets isn't to raise awareness for concussions and support of players, it's just someone who wants to wag their finger at people who commit such atrocities as... playing videogames and fantasy football.

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« Reply #10374 on: December 29, 2021, 03:09:03 PM »
John Madden may have been critical of concussion indifference in football including lamenting how he contributed to it, but think about what good he could have done for society had he not personally endorsed a blatantly racist video game.

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« Reply #10375 on: December 29, 2021, 03:12:09 PM »
It's so transparent that the main goal of those tweets isn't to raise awareness for concussions and support of players, it's just someone who wants to wag their finger at people who commit such atrocities as... playing videogames and fantasy football.

If we all stopped playing Madden then the NFL would go under in a matter of weeks and we would save uncountable athletes from a future of plantation cosplay.

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« Reply #10376 on: December 29, 2021, 03:13:01 PM »


Madden endorsing senseless violence toward plantation cosplayers at @1:28.

I'm just so tired.

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« Reply #10377 on: December 29, 2021, 03:15:55 PM »
Benji please as Mod Admiral you need to make sure Madden NFL Football gets added to the banned game list

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« Reply #10378 on: December 29, 2021, 03:19:23 PM »
An always-online white leftist insinuating black football players are slaves. I'm sure he thinks that he nailed it with that insinuation and that all the black football players will deem him a good "ally." He's the kind of idiot that gets mad at other's behalf and use it as an excuse to be as shitty as possible to others. Wouldn't be at all surprised if he took part in the Lindsay Ellis mobbing.
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« Reply #10379 on: December 29, 2021, 03:20:07 PM »
Imagine a slave on a plantation not knowing that in the future some history prof will compare the hell he's going through to athletes playing sports and earning millions