Elon Bought Twitter- X GON GIVE IT TO YA

[Uncle]

Billions showrunner Brian Koppelman similarly tweeted, “Y’all’s, for real, come find me over on instagram and the tok. Gonna really try to take a breather from here for a minute or a month come deal close time.”

fleeing elon musk into the wholesome arms of china

[Pissy F Benny]

well they didn't even try did they

i think they reason all the resistence libs are freaking out is because trump getting banned was their big W and him coming back would undo that (the old twitter admin would have probably let him back on again around when the republican primaries started anyway).

[benjipwns]

"don't flee twitter, vote blue"

what does voting blue have to do with this? would the democrats have prevented him from buying it?

You mean the Democrats currently in power?

[Uncle]

https://twitter.com/PeaceIsEarned/status/1585993416499900416

oh boy 

a public utility...where anyone can use it and they don't have financial interests to protect, so...nobody can get banned...

https://twitter.com/PeaceIsEarned/status/1586337622929985538

haha elon is such a loser, twitter is going to close its doors within a week

[Mostima]

99.9% of twitter users don't care about musk owning twitter, and the 0.1% that do care, refuse to leave twitter because they're too addicted need to stand up to fascism! But yeah, twitter is definitely going to die overnight and everybody's gonna flock over to jack dorsey's new site. 

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1586431561041293312

[Himu]

[benjipwns]

Stephanie Ruhle Hubbard[1] (born December 24, 1975) is the host of The 11th Hour and a Senior Business Analyst for NBC News.[2] Previously, Ruhle was managing editor and news anchor for Bloomberg Television and editor-at-large for Bloomberg News.

 

[Uncle]

You know this means they get to collect severance right

CEO is getting a briefcase with $60million to never have to listen to Musk.

Thats called winning.

This isnt like the time you got fired from the 7-11 eating a hotdog without paying

https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status/1586539695491624960

[benjipwns]

Yeah, rich execs will never fight you trying to take their millions.

[Potato]

This whole purchase from Musk has been more a political/performative statement than a common sense business decision, so he would probably welcome the legal shenanigans that a dispute over this will bring.

[benjipwns]

It is really hard to think it was anything other than a shitpost, the guy has spent how many actual billions on shitposts before, but he accidentally somehow did wind up agreeing to buy it. I think that original chunk he bought was "legit" in that he wanted a board seat but at some point somebody (Dorsey?) talked him into buying the whole thing.

[Phoenix Dark]

I don't fuck with Elon on any level but...why wouldn't you expect him to fire front office people, find his own CEO, etc. This is pretty standard. And when the dust is settled I'd expect a crackdown on some of the ugly shit going on right now in terms of the hate speech. He says he wants advertisers and it won't be a free-for-all atmosphere so I'd expect some bans and deletions.

[benjipwns]

I expect him to create another Blue Check like system but behind-the-scenes and shift those people into a more human appeal process for bans, maybe even automatically holding bans/suspensions until they're confirmed rather than banning and requiring an appeal. There is no way gobs of people would not pay for a more first-class Twitter status even if it's not visible.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/0interestrates/status/1586188883905028097

 

[Tasty]

I don't fuck with Elon on any level but...why wouldn't you expect him to fire front office people, find his own CEO, etc. This is pretty standard. And when the dust is settled I'd expect a crackdown on some of the ugly shit going on right now in terms of the hate speech. He says he wants advertisers and it won't be a free-for-all atmosphere so I'd expect some bans and deletions.

I don't get it either, but usually the transitionary period is longer and more courtesies are given (trying to axe the golden parachutes is a little anomalous).

[Nintex]

The Paul Pelosi story really is the litmus test for this new era of Twitter 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I expect him to create another Blue Check like system but behind-the-scenes and shift those people into a more human appeal process for bans, maybe even automatically holding bans/suspensions until they're confirmed rather than banning and requiring an appeal. There is no way gobs of people would not pay for a more first-class Twitter status even if it's not visible.

Two things I'd expect him to do to make money that the only people who will be mad about it are the twitterati who are already doing this but dont want the hoi palloi to;

• Just sell blue ticks for a monthly / annual fee; this is roundabout how the system already works tbh.
• Sell 'boosters' (bot follows) directly, cutting out the middle man; again, people already do this and pretend they don't, but this would just go to twitter instead of botfarms.

[Nintex]

I expect him to create another Blue Check like system but behind-the-scenes and shift those people into a more human appeal process for bans, maybe even automatically holding bans/suspensions until they're confirmed rather than banning and requiring an appeal. There is no way gobs of people would not pay for a more first-class Twitter status even if it's not visible.

Two things I'd expect him to do to make money that the only people who will be mad about it are the twitterati who are already doing this but dont want the hoi palloi to;

• Just sell blue ticks for a monthly / annual fee; this is roundabout how the system already works tbh.
• Sell 'boosters' (bot follows) directly, cutting out the middle man; again, people already do this and pretend they don't, but this would just go to twitter instead of botfarms.

Yup, I expect these sort of Discord type subscriptions and things.

He has also floated the idea of an ESRB like rating system for Tweets.
Basically you can decide if you want to see all Tweets or only the ones that don't offend you.

[Uncle]

here is the model:

• you can make as many normal tweets or photo tweets as you like for free
• video tweets or ones with images over 10 MB cost 5 twitcoins
• every user gets one twitcoin per day for free and can earn more through gamified activities that demonstrate engagement like liking one tweet every day for a week/month etc.
• also if you go sufficiently viral you earn a bunch of twitcoins
• also you can tip people with them if you really liked their tweet and this shows up as a separate like metric, a "superlike"
• you can buy twitcoins wholesale, 200 for $10
• monthly $10 sub also gets you 200 twitcoins per month as well as other privileges like the blue check
• you can also spend 600 twitcoins to get a t-shirt made out of any tweet you really like, or printed on coffee mugs or urinal cakes

[Boredfrom]

Man, the dude is so high of his own farts. It truly feels like he only bought twitter to shitpost.

[Kurt Russell]

Man, the dude is so high of his own farts. It truly feels like he only bought twitter to shitpost.

Good for him. It's a much better use of his money than taking a trip into space.

[Boredfrom]

Man, the dude is so high of his own farts. It truly feels like he only bought twitter to shitpost.

Good for him. It's a much better use of his money than taking a trip into space.

Nah. Misinformation about political violence is kind of shitty.

[who is ted danson?]

Imagine if you got to post 1 tweet per day for free.

Only 1.

The rest you had to pay for.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Turn the journos into paypigs. 

[close]

[Himu]

The Paul Pelosi is gay theory

[Nintex]

Media: "Right wing MAGA Trumper attacks Paul Pelosi with a hammer because he watched Tucker Carlson!"

The right: "Woah, this is terrible is there any evidence of this? There must be security footage of the attack?"

Media: "Do not question the FACTS! A right wing MAGA Trump attacked Paul Pelosi"

Police: "We have no clue about the motive, the mugshot in the media is not the guy"

Democrats: "REPUBLICAN VIOLENCE IS OUT OF CONTROL. ACTUAL 9/11 MOMENT!"

Police: "The other picture in the media is also not the guy"

The right: "Hold up that's a pride flag and BLM sign. What makes a Castro Nudist a right wing MAGA?"

Media: "Don't jump to conclusions!"

Police: "A third guy opened the door. They were both half naked fighting over a hammer. Paul called the police from the bathroom"

The right: "They were both half naked? Who was the third guy? Why did he tell the police it was a friend? Why did the guy allow him to go to the bathroom, why were they struggling over the hammer with a bystander present?"
 
Democrats: "Stop spreading misinformation!!! THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. ELON IS A RUSSIAN ASSET"

[Boredfrom]

I’m going to totally believe you Nintex, you never say stupid shit or signal boost alt right diarrhea.

[Himu]

Yeah nintex. Post your sources that police say that's not the guy and all that. All I know is that the guy was targeting Nancy as per police official statements.

The story seems to be:

Crazy guy attacked husband of the Speaker of the House while in search of the Congresswoman.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/30/politics/pelosi-attack-suspect-david-depape-bag-zip-ties/index.html

Where did you get all of this stuff, particularly the police related statements regarding the media and the so-called mugshot?

[Uncle]

it is true that everyone was all over the internet doing armchair detective work looking for the guy with that name, and the wrong picture was signal boosted twice, but that's just the normal social media scramble, and I don't think it had much to do with the story changing (other than people looking into the background of whoever was wrongly pictured)

[Himu]

Ah, so internet scuttlebutt. Who cares. Luls.

[HaughtyFrank]

A story in two tweets

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1586698111552045057

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1586793907815419907

[Pissy F Benny]

so this shit has grown tedious two days in, tank the platform now pls.

[Propagandhim]

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1586886166191558656

Amazingly good idea if real

Will all the blue check people whinging about Elon pay him from their pockets to keep their shiny badge?  Will they be called hypocrites?  Stay tuned.

[Himu]

Lmfao if true

[Occam]

"Employees working on the project were told on Sunday that they need to meet a deadline of November 7th to launch the feature or they will be fired."
https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/30/23431931/twitter-paid-verification-elon-musk-blue-monthly-subscription

[Boredfrom]

Burn it all down Elon, including yourself. 

What a stupid asshole. But hey, this is solution to blue marks… having no blue marks.

[Propagandhim]

It's not stupid, it's a great idea.  Twitter is not an essential service.  Nobody is putting a gun to anyone's head to use twitter.  That badge is a status and credibility marker and now you have to pay for it or go screw.  It's a genius move putting people on the spot to choose between making Twitter and Elon money or losing that free status/cred signal that gets you more popularity/business/taken more seriously, etc.     Pick one.  Also makes convictionless hypocrites more apparent.  Complaining about Elon's business ethics, the way he gets rich, how much of a dick he is, while you directly contribute to his business from your own pocket?  It's brilliant. 

Only thing that would suck is if anyone could buy the badge, but I don't think that's what this is. I think the badge requirements stay the same, you just have to pay for it now.

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1586887486164373505

Source? Stay tuned!

[Boredfrom]

It's not stupid, it's a great idea.  Twitter is not an essential service.  Nobody is putting a gun to anyone's head to use twitter.  That badge is a status and credibility marker and now you have to pay for it or go screw.  It's a genius move putting people on the spot to choose between making Twitter and Elon money or losing that free status/cred signal that gets you more popularity/business/taken more seriously, etc.     Pick one.  Also makes convictionless hypocrites more apparent.  Complaining about Elon's business ethics, the way he gets rich, how much of a dick he is, while you directly contribute to his business from your own pocket?  It's brilliant. 

Only thing that would suck is if anyone could buy the badge, but I don't think that's what this is. I think the badge requirements stay the same, you just have to pay for it now.

You just admitted that this could be in fact a credibility killer. YouTube is also not an essential service and nobody is buying YouTube Premium.

Most people will not pay and the people that will pay will be journos as a business expense and corpos.

[Propagandhim]

Yeah like I said, if anyone can just buy the badge, that's bad and defeats the purpose.  I have a feeling it's just simply adding a fee on top of the current badge standard, though.

If you're verified and you don't want to pay the $20, then boohoo?  A social media website shouldn't be the lynchpin standard of showing credibility anyway.  Your work should speak for that.  This is a private service that doesn't owe you that free signaling.

[Transhuman]

It's not stupid, it's a great idea.  Twitter is not an essential service.  Nobody is putting a gun to anyone's head to use twitter.  That badge is a status and credibility marker and now you have to pay for it or go screw.  It's a genius move putting people on the spot to choose between making Twitter and Elon money or losing that free status/cred signal that gets you more popularity/business/taken more seriously, etc.     Pick one.  Also makes convictionless hypocrites more apparent.  Complaining about Elon's business ethics, the way he gets rich, how much of a dick he is, while you directly contribute to his business from your own pocket?  It's brilliant. 

Only thing that would suck is if anyone could buy the badge, but I don't think that's what this is. I think the badge requirements stay the same, you just have to pay for it now.

No, now being verified means much less because there is a conflict of interest. You really think whoever is in charge of verification isn't going to lower the barrier of entry? It'd be like resetera saying you need at least 1000 posts and to pass a background check before you can subscribe to Era clear.

[Boredfrom]

Yeah like I said, if anyone can just buy the badge, that's bad and defeats the purpose.  I have a feeling it's just simply adding a fee on top of the current badge standard, though.

Why are you giving the fucker the benefit of doubt?

Deep down he is just a shitposter and doesn’t care about free speech. He justa misses the validation he used to have as “IRL Tony Stark”.

I think is more likely that he just wants to squeeze money from corporations and Journalists, the people that will actually pay for it.

[Propagandhim]

If the standard changes and they start issuing out badges to anyone who will pay, then it becomes a valueless symbol which would be bad for Twitter's business.  They'd be smart to keep the standard the same.

[Propagandhim]

Yeah like I said, if anyone can just buy the badge, that's bad and defeats the purpose.  I have a feeling it's just simply adding a fee on top of the current badge standard, though.

Why are you giving the fucker the benefit of doubt?

Deep down he is just a shitposter and doesn’t care about free speech. He justa misses the validation he used to have as “IRL Tony Stark”.

I think is more likely that he just wants to squeeze money from corporations and Journalists, the people that will actually pay for it.

I'm assuming he's not a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and wants the badge to retain value if he wants to make money off of it.  Either way, I don't care.  It's an obnoxious, clout-obsessed website full of people pleading for relevence and validation, and muddies the water of expertise by giving credibility to personalities instead of work.  Elon is the personified version.  Hope the shit explodes with the hypocrites latched onto it.

[Boredfrom]

I think Elon Musk is a shortsighted asshole in the spectrum with to much money and really misses when he was seen as a visionary. He was forced to buy a company that didn’t want anymore so now he is throwing stuff to the wall to see if it works.

[Propagandhim]

It gets straight to the crux of the essential question of what Twitter is.  It is not the town square.  It is not an essential service.  The government does not ensure you have a right to speak on it.  It's a private company with a service that you now have to pay for.   You now have to pay for that verified marker, and if you don't, you lose all the goodies that come with it.  You either enrich Elon or leave.  Or stay on and cry about it.

[Boredfrom]

People usually use social media because it is free. Is a private owned town square, but still a town square most people used for free. Monetizing blue marks is not a genius idea just because I bet you they already though about the idea way before Musk went full autistic, but was probably too stupid of an idea to do.

I’m not going to miss Twitter, but there was a time when it was not as hellish as it is now. 

[benjipwns]

Why are you giving the fucker the benefit of doubt?

Because that's what good people do.

Most people will not pay and the people that will pay will be journos as a business expense and corpos.

People like Brianna Wu, MovieBob, etc. losing their Blue Checks to people who are at least actually employed in the field they claim in some capacity is probably a good thing for increasing the status of the Blue Check itself.

[Propagandhim]

People usually use social media because it is free. Is a private owned town square, but still a town square most people used for free. Monetizing blue marks is not a genius idea just because I bet you they already though about the idea way before Musk went full autistic, but was probably too stupid of an idea to do.

It's very smart from a business perspective because people literally compete on that site for relevance.  Someone on there who wants to be taken seriously will consider how small his or her voice is without that badge, and will be compelled to pay the $20 for it.  This is not an ethical loss at all -- Twitter hands those badges out to anyone - it does not filter good 'experts' from 'bad' ones.  It gives any crackpot "expert" a badge.  It's great business: Now both the 'real' and 'crackpot' experts will be fighting for relevance on a social media site - a place where such a battle shouldn't take place, anyway.  This isn't a peer-reviewed journal, it's a fucking social media site.  Fuck it.

And no, it isn't a town-square.  It's a private corporation's website.  A private corporation owning a public space doesn't make any sense.  The government can't compel your rights into their terms of service, so I don't care if it's 'public' in spirit because it looks like a place everyone gathers, it doesn't hold.  Musk is LARPing about the town-square freedom of speech shit to get advertisers on his side and to retain social media addicts by virtue.  You don't give people special badges in a town square.   You can't ban people for saying mean or uncomfortable things in a town square.   That website was never a town square. 

[Himu]

The people super mad at Elon are hilarious. I'm sorry but it's funny.

[benjipwns]

The Blue Check was fine when Twitter invented it, it meant simply that they confirmed this is the actual person (i.e. this is actually Hillary Clinton (or her staff) or Elon Musk) and that's how all the idiots got it. Then they changed it to an elite club with special features on the website like the ability to ignore non-Blue Checks and get priority in moderation. The latter absolutely should be monetized.

[Propagandhim]

There are people on Twitter that may have marginal careers or roles that can't be verified because they're too niche or something.  I know a few game developers that have made popular games in the past that have tried but can't get verified.  There are people that are interested in confirming their identity, but they're not popular enough, I guess.   It's definitely a popularity contest or 'elite club' as you say, not some egalitarian system.  And nobody can compel it to be otherwise.  Monetize the shit out of it, who cares.

[Boredfrom]

Why are you giving the fucker the benefit of doubt?

Because that's what good people do.

Because Elon Musk is good people and worthy of the benefit of the doubt. Just like Brianna Wu, MovieBob, etc. 

Come on, Benji.

Most people will not pay and the people that will pay will be journos as a business expense and corpos.

People like Brianna Wu, MovieBob, etc. losing their Blue Checks to people who are at least actually employed in the field they claim in some capacity is probably a good thing for increasing the status of the Blue Check itself.

Don’t disagree with that, but there is also people that are not exactly scum that are going to lose it and corporations and some insane journos and media personalities will probably afford it. Probably people with bigger cloud than MovieBob.

[Propagandhim]

Don’t disagree with that, but there is also people that are not exactly scum that are going to lose it and corporations and some insane journos and media personalities will probably afford it. Probably people with bigger cloud than MovieBob.

Then this website will live or die by whether or not that loss is important.  We need to stop looking at Twitter as if it's some essential public institution that needs to be used, referred to, remarked upon, and defended.  It doesn't deserve it.  The people running it don't deserve it.  It doesn't function with any acknowledgement of peoples' rights.  And yet everyone is desperate to have a voice on it and be dependent upon it.  This new idea is great because it gets right to the source of what Twitter is and what is its value proposition:  How important is this website to people?  Is it important enough that a subscription fee that filters expertise will reduce the importance of this site in peoples' lives?  It's an interesting question.

[Boredfrom]

I agree that as whole, the website doesn’t deserve defending. But like you said yourself, Elon Musk current behavior seems to be a byproduct of Twitter, so I don’t think is also worth defending him or pretend he cares beyond getting high at social medial.

[Occam]

This whole thing is basically akin to the robber barons buying newspaper publishers back in the day to shape public opinion in their favor.
Musk is a person who has never invented anything and only cares about stroking his own ego. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Propagandhim]

It's a self-correcting problem.  Those newspapers either went out of business because they weren't trustworthy or retained a readership of people that were ignorant and naïve to the propaganda, and competing journalism had to win people over with the protections of a free press.  Either way, if people are looking for an injunction to get blue checks distributed in a fair way, they won't get it.  It was never fair to begin with because it never had to be.  It's time for people to take responsibility for their actions and make a decision about what they think their participation and contributions to public discourse means on a platform they think is unfair and is run by someone they hate.  It's very easy to go on Twitter every day, tweet a million times a day how shitty everything is,  talk shit about Elon, change your name to Jennifer "Democracy Enjoyer" Rubin but take no accountability for your actions and have no conviction to change them.  Now you're tasked with paying the man directly or doing something and it sucks because complaining was easy and even fun.   Now it's less fun.  If people actually care and act then Twitter will destroy itself by this policy, and a better site with a better system will take its place. 

[benjipwns]

Why are you giving the fucker the benefit of doubt?

Because that's what good people do.

Because Elon Musk is good people and worthy of the benefit of the doubt. Just like Brianna Wu, MovieBob, etc. 

Come on, Benji.

That's not at all what I said, I said good people give others the benefit of the doubt. I would never claim that only good people deserve the benefit of the doubt. I consider that immoral.

I actually have no idea what you're even attempting to say we're giving Musk the benefit of the doubt on. He's monetizing an exclusive aspect of his platform, isn't that what we said he's doing? We just didn't think that's a bad thing, Musk's motives are irrelevant to that determination.

[Potato]

It gets straight to the crux of the essential question of what Twitter is.  It is not the town square.  It is not an essential service.  The government does not ensure you have a right to speak on it.  It's a private company with a service that you now have to pay for.   You now have to pay for that verified marker, and if you don't, you lose all the goodies that come with it.  You either enrich Elon or leave.  Or stay on and cry about it.

Twatter is and always was a service for the most self-absorbed and narcissistic idiots to express their private thought bubble onto the rest of the self-absorbed and narcissistic userbase. It became a public nuisance when twats could embed their tweets all over the internet, thus making tweets newsworthy in themselves and allowing idiots to report on the opinions of other idiots.

[benjipwns]

This whole thing is basically akin to the robber barons buying newspaper publishers back in the day to shape public opinion in their favor.

Trying to back out completely and claiming the main goal is reducing top-down censorship is a weird way to try to "shape public opinion" to... boost Tesla and SpaceX?