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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #180 on: January 26, 2010, 09:42:10 AM »
superman was pretty awesome in the late 80s when jerry ordway was doing a lot of it
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« Reply #181 on: January 26, 2010, 10:11:31 AM »
Superman for All Seasons is pretty good.
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« Reply #182 on: January 26, 2010, 04:00:25 PM »
How was Superman: Up, Up, and Away?  Focusing on a depowered Superman using his reporter skills to fight crime as Clark Kent seems kind of interesting.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #183 on: January 26, 2010, 04:20:19 PM »
i actually never read it though i was intrigued by the concept
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« Reply #184 on: January 26, 2010, 07:52:43 PM »
http://www.tcj.com/superhero/rich-kreiners-yearlong-best-of-the-year-new-krypton


We’re in the midst of complimenting, amazingly enough, aspects of three ongoing commercial mega-crossovers. Last time, acknowledgment went to crafted early moments of Brian Michael Bendis’ Dark Avengers which displayed real cleverness in conception and smacked of authentic presidential malfeasance. This time it’s the more complex social and political framework underlying the “New Krypton” cycle in DC’s Superman-related titles.

“New Krypton” is the realm created by the enlargement of Brainiac’s bottled city of Kandor, a Silver Age artifact familiar to Superman readers of longstanding. That enlargement unleashes a flood of super-powered Kryptonians on Earth, in essence 100,000 new Supermen, itself a wrinkle that might awaken some curiosity in readers of almost any standing.

Early on there are glimpses of what that many endowed aliens might mean to the storyline. Among the glistening spires of New Krypton, a newly supered-up visitor dumps a blue whale carcass in a pristine courtyard: “I found this in the water. It tried to eat me. I punched it. It stopped trying to eat me.” At street-level Metropolis, two Kryptonians exhibit indifference, then disdain, at a traffic accident; they were moved neither to prevent it before nor to mitigate the severity of the injuries after. It all tends to heighten the clash of sensibilities and, in the process, throw into high relief the deep-seated humanity the Kents bequeathed their adopted son Clark during the course of his upbringing.

Of course things get worse for almost everybody. There’s an admirable coordination between the saga’s authors, among them Geoff Johns and James Robinson, in conveying the astonishment and confusion rippling along both sides of the species divide.They provide the satisfying progression from nervousness to apprehension to suspicion to antagonism to provocation and hostility between the sides, an escalation accelerated by sheer foreignness and disparate wherewithal. On “our” side are wary citizens, overmatched costumed good guys and, well behind the scenes, bad guys forwarding their own agenda. The other side boasts a multitude of strange visitors from another planet, augmented to unmatchable levels, carrying out their own agenda in plain sight. And why wouldn’t they? What have they to hide or be ashamed and hesitant about? Anyway, who could do anything about it?

In one proactive bit of vigilante housecleaning — not to trivialize death, even in funnybooks — several cops are killed in the line of duty by Kryptonians (unnecessarily, it appears to readers). The newcomers’ leader, Alura, explains: “there’s an earth term I’ve learned of late – collateral damage. These policemen were unlucky.” Eventually she will allow that humans are “Pathetic and inferior yet mired in hubris. Let them all die.”

Not to trivialize real-world horrors — especially as funnybook inspiration — but it’s difficult not to map specific incidents, twists or snippets of dialogue onto those real-world horrors.  First to mind are the conflicts of the Middle East. American servicemen and women, armed and armored like relative supermen, alien supermen, intervene in Iraq, hoping that shock and awe can pave the way to immediate objectives. Perhaps a closer mapping still is that of the Palestinian / Israeli fighting during the winter of 2008. There, the latter, enjoying a similar superiority of armament and weaponry, inflicted wildly disproportionate degrees of “collateral damage” upon their opposition. Theirs was a premeditated response that could have flowed directly from the position enunciated by the fictional Alura: “Until we are absolutely safe, there can be no limits.”

As for our escapist entertainment, Superman, compromised by his multiple allegiances, is superimpotent to effectively intervene, unable to prevent unfolding tragedies. So’s Supergirl, twice over, as her mom is Alura.  By way of contrast, Lex Luthor remains an exemplar of unswerving motivation, pure as driven soot. All in all, the opening act made for a tight and tidy dilemma for its principle players.

As of the end of the second collected volume of the “New Krypton” storyline, some of the most intractable problems mentioned here have seemingly been sidestepped, put on a back burner by the fabulous developments possible only in comics. Thank goodness this is only an imaginary story, eh?

And this is all without Superman in it? It sounds really good.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #185 on: January 26, 2010, 07:54:39 PM »
It has Superman in it. but really, it's not that good. Utterly bemused at the excitement over this. The initial premise is good and it started off well but it's filled with absolutely inane events and is now a muddled mess. Plus, it's blatantly leading into a huge crossover event.
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« Reply #186 on: January 26, 2010, 07:55:18 PM »
well, remember, i said i've only read the beginning stuff, but i found it enjoyable

it may shit the bed later but i never got there
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« Reply #187 on: January 26, 2010, 08:03:28 PM »
Eric P: EXONERATED

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #188 on: January 27, 2010, 11:40:11 PM »
http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/2010-01-27-marvel27_ST_N.htm

More details about Marvel's "Heroic Age", I love how both Dc's and Marvel's new status quo have this very optimistic feel to them after both Secret Invasion and Final Crisis left their universes in the shitter.
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« Reply #189 on: January 28, 2010, 03:00:20 AM »
Concept art from the GL movie:
http://cosmicbooknews.com/articles/glm_report/

Holy shit. And to think they almost made it a Jack Black comedy.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #190 on: January 29, 2010, 06:34:09 AM »
I hope the plot they talked about isn't the real thing.  It reads as horribly unfocused and can't decide on a villain (Hector Hammond or Legion) or a setting (Earth or space).
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #191 on: January 30, 2010, 03:38:19 PM »
GL always takes place in Earth and space and this is an origin movie so it makes sense.

It's like complaining about Batman Begins having too many villains.
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« Reply #192 on: January 30, 2010, 08:31:22 PM »
GL always takes place in Earth and space and this is an origin movie so it makes sense.

It's like complaining about Batman Begins having too many villains.

Hey Mana I'm interested in GL. What some essential shit that I should read? Is it worth digging up the Showcase Presents books or should I focus on the more contemporary TPBs?
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« Reply #193 on: January 30, 2010, 08:58:57 PM »
GL always takes place in Earth and space and this is an origin movie so it makes sense.

It's like complaining about Batman Begins having too many villains.

It's not in any way like that.  I'm talking about the basics of storytelling.  It reads as unfocused - you don't split the plot in half over most of the movie with two mostly unrelated stories starring the same protagonist that switch back and forth.
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« Reply #194 on: January 30, 2010, 09:57:57 PM »
GL always takes place in Earth and space and this is an origin movie so it makes sense.

It's like complaining about Batman Begins having too many villains.

Hey Mana I'm interested in GL. What some essential shit that I should read? Is it worth digging up the Showcase Presents books or should I focus on the more contemporary TPBs?

Read Geoff John's run. Start with Rebirth then issue #1.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #195 on: January 31, 2010, 02:00:31 AM »
Chew continues to be hilarious and surprising. Fantastic art too. Strongly recommended.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #196 on: January 31, 2010, 12:24:53 PM »
GL always takes place in Earth and space and this is an origin movie so it makes sense.

It's like complaining about Batman Begins having too many villains.

Hey Mana I'm interested in GL. What some essential shit that I should read? Is it worth digging up the Showcase Presents books or should I focus on the more contemporary TPBs?

the showcase stuff is mad goofy, i'd start with rebirth exactly as mana suggests
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #197 on: January 31, 2010, 02:21:38 PM »
I would actually recommend secret origin and Emerald twilight before rebirth to get a little familiar with Jordan, Rebirth is not really that good if you are not familiar with the GL world.
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« Reply #198 on: January 31, 2010, 02:52:17 PM »
Hmm. We'll see. Goddamn comics and their complexity.
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« Reply #201 on: February 02, 2010, 11:20:19 PM »
That's Longshot in the bottom left corner with the mandolin? Holy fuck. :lol
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« Reply #202 on: February 02, 2010, 11:28:53 PM »
I though that was Emma :lol
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« Reply #203 on: February 02, 2010, 11:54:33 PM »
The scariest part is that is 100% American-made.
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« Reply #204 on: February 03, 2010, 12:41:23 AM »
The scariest part is that is 100% American-made.

Not entirely. Anzu, the artist, is from Indonesia.
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« Reply #206 on: February 03, 2010, 12:13:08 PM »
BONER!
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« Reply #207 on: February 03, 2010, 03:30:45 PM »
Chew continues to be hilarious and surprising. Fantastic art too. Strongly recommended.

Yeah, this has become one of my most anticipated books each month.

Siege #2 :rock enjoying it a lot more than BN so far.
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« Reply #208 on: February 04, 2010, 02:22:40 AM »
Chew continues to be hilarious and surprising. Fantastic art too. Strongly recommended.
Will find. Thanks.

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« Reply #209 on: February 04, 2010, 02:29:35 AM »
Chew continues to be hilarious and surprising. Fantastic art too. Strongly recommended.
Will find. Thanks.

First 5 issues are out in trade, 'Taster's Choice'.
One-time only offer: If you don't like it, I'll buy it from you and give it to someone else!
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« Reply #211 on: February 04, 2010, 02:39:43 AM »
Chew continues to be hilarious and surprising. Fantastic art too. Strongly recommended.
Will find. Thanks.

First 5 issues are out in trade, 'Taster's Choice'.
One-time only offer: If you don't like it, I'll buy it from you and give it to someone else!
Yeah, cool. Of course, I'd have to ship it to you and you'd have to ship or hand it off again. But I'll probably like it.

My copy of Leave It To Chance by Paul Smith showed up yesterday: 1600 yens for a lovely HARDCOVER. Amazon.co.jp is teh awesum.

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« Reply #212 on: February 04, 2010, 02:52:10 AM »
Yeah, amazon is our best bet. The only problem I have is that buy one comic, and they send you an email every day for the rest of your life plugging shitty comics.

You will LOVE Chew. 
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« Reply #213 on: February 05, 2010, 02:17:35 AM »
Yeah, amazon is our best bet. The only problem I have is that buy one comic, and they send you an email every day for the rest of your life plugging shitty comics.

You will LOVE Chew. 
I've got that system beat, Fuad Ramses! I use a chaff hotmail account for my amazon dealings, and get my notifications on stuff i actually care about, like MP3 freebies and sales, through their twattings.

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« Reply #214 on: February 05, 2010, 02:32:48 AM »
on the other hand...gmail. no need to ever do anything with it. let amazon and google's servers fight for all i care.
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« Reply #215 on: February 05, 2010, 02:54:45 AM »
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« Reply #216 on: February 05, 2010, 03:05:35 PM »
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« Reply #217 on: February 05, 2010, 03:57:54 PM »
jim lee own shares in an india ink mine or something?
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #218 on: February 05, 2010, 07:00:04 PM »
jim lee own shares in an india ink mine or something?

That's 100x better than the non-variant cover.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #219 on: February 05, 2010, 07:07:19 PM »
is that cover supposed to mean something to me? serious question.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #220 on: February 05, 2010, 07:13:51 PM »
You shut your whore face, it looks fine.
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« Reply #221 on: February 05, 2010, 07:19:12 PM »
Hawkman :lol

i've never watched an ep of Smallville but i must see this
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« Reply #222 on: February 05, 2010, 07:23:37 PM »
oh God :lol
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #223 on: February 05, 2010, 07:44:15 PM »
oh my god

hahahahaha

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« Reply #224 on: February 05, 2010, 07:55:47 PM »
Hawkman :lol

i've never watched an ep of Smallville but i must see this

Two full hours!

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HOLY SHIT :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #225 on: February 05, 2010, 08:15:06 PM »
That's badass.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #226 on: February 05, 2010, 08:40:12 PM »
I love that this discussion has turned into how did Hawkman make his mace?
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« Reply #227 on: February 05, 2010, 08:42:38 PM »
Brian Blessed is intrinsically interesting.
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« Reply #228 on: February 05, 2010, 08:44:44 PM »
superman's costume is a trench coat  ???

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« Reply #229 on: February 05, 2010, 09:22:14 PM »
He's not Superman yet. He's "the blur" and he just runs around real fast...in a blur.
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« Reply #230 on: February 05, 2010, 09:29:28 PM »
Is there anything else interesting about Hawkman?

the hawkgirl resurrected lovers story

especially as hawkgirl hates hawkman
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« Reply #231 on: February 06, 2010, 03:59:08 AM »
I've been meaning to ask, I assume you guys download a lot of comics. Where exactly do you get them from?
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« Reply #232 on: February 07, 2010, 03:03:39 AM »
I like comics, I like movies and TV shows about comics, but can't deal with Smallville. I even like that lovely critter Kristen Kreug, but still can't stomach Smallville.  :'(

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« Reply #233 on: February 07, 2010, 03:06:49 AM »
Unless you have a huge budget, anything to do with costumed heroes is going to look majorly cheesy.
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« Reply #234 on: February 07, 2010, 05:45:51 AM »
I've been meaning to ask, I assume you guys download a lot of comics. Where exactly do you get them from?

direct connect hubs all the way for me.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #235 on: February 07, 2010, 03:33:41 PM »
I've been meaning to ask, I assume you guys download a lot of comics. Where exactly do you get them from?

Warez-bb.org and Myxss.com
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #236 on: February 15, 2010, 01:32:13 PM »
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/marvel-astonishing-line-100215.html

I don't even know what to say about that x-men artwork, just fucking awful.

Spidey/Wolverine on the other hand :hyper
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #237 on: February 15, 2010, 01:58:13 PM »
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« Reply #238 on: February 15, 2010, 08:06:12 PM »


:rofl
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« Reply #239 on: February 15, 2010, 08:16:41 PM »
You shut your whore face, it looks fine.

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No, it doesn't.

r&d meeting

dude 1: ok, how can we change superman's costume so it's not gay, and not piss off the nerdling fans?
dude 2: lets give him a dark trenchcoat or some shit right, then have the superman logo tagged on his black tee
dude 1: sounds innovative and inclusive, i like it
dude 2: ok now lets work on the justice league members
dude 1: nah, just have them look gay, no one will care
dude 2: alright
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