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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5940 on: September 28, 2019, 09:45:35 PM »
started reading Force Works (1994-1995) which I discovered an Epic Collection of at the library, it's like an ultimate 90s production, terrible overworked art, ever shifting inhuman body types, bad dialogue, awful pacing, incoherent scenes, unnecessary "detail" lines on male faces, lots of yelling when regular speech would do, etc.

the art of U.S. Agent especially is some of the worst I've ever seen in a Marvel/DC work

it's pretty incredible, it's also some of Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning's first mainstream work I believe

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« Reply #5941 on: September 28, 2019, 10:54:09 PM »
Was that the garbage that replaced West Coast Avengers?   :lol

Stealth edit: Yup.  CHECK OUT THAT 'TUDE! 



The only thing missing are the bomber jackets with pushed-up sleeves.  Remember when that was a thing and the early 90s idea of updating a character design was just throwing a brown jacket over their costume?   Throw in a mullet and a five o'clock shadow for the guys.  :doge
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« Reply #5942 on: September 28, 2019, 10:58:34 PM »
Rare depiction of Black Knight before he got hit by the 90s!




After the 90s!


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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5943 on: September 28, 2019, 11:02:31 PM »
The only thing missing are the bomber jackets with pushed-up sleeves.  Remember when that was a thing and the early 90s idea of updating a character design was just throwing a brown jacket over their costume?   Throw in a mullet and a five o'clock shadow for the guys.  :doge
It's not missing at all. U.S. Agent literally has all of these when he's off-duty. :lol

The actual storyline and such isn't THAT BAD (though I generally like Abnett and Lanning) but so many aspects of it are just 1994 so fucking hard, especially the art, it's killing me and I'm trying to sorta skim the visuals. It's not working as I keep stopping to look again at panels in baffled amazement.

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« Reply #5944 on: September 28, 2019, 11:05:50 PM »
'TUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #5945 on: September 28, 2019, 11:09:21 PM »
Also the whole hook is supposed to be that Tony and the others are tired of the Avengers reactive policy after the failure of West Coast Avengers, so they're going to be proactive and take care of problems beforehand as FORCE WORKS. In the first eight issues, they did this literally once, every other time they're reacting to some bad guy or whatever attacking first.

This somehow lasted 22 issues, the epic collection collects the first 15. Apparently at that point the main story for the series sorta just ends and it becomes extra pages for the Avengers crossover "The Crossing" so the rest of it is in that collection and like everybody goes back to the Avengers or something.

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« Reply #5946 on: September 28, 2019, 11:11:11 PM »
Will go back and check it out- pretty sure I bought the first few issues back then but '95 is when I quit reading Marvel for like nine years.  It just got so bad.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5947 on: September 28, 2019, 11:17:29 PM »
BEHOLD


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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5948 on: September 28, 2019, 11:25:10 PM »
found a bunch of the bad art from the earlier issues:



WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR FACE:



LOOK AT THIS FUCKING PANEL



LOOK AT EVERYTHING ON THIS PAGE



WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR HANDS


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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5949 on: September 28, 2019, 11:25:46 PM »
OMG LOOK AT THESE ARMS


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« Reply #5950 on: September 28, 2019, 11:27:33 PM »
THE JACKET!  THE FIVE O'CLOCK SHADOW IN FULL FORCE!

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5951 on: September 28, 2019, 11:30:32 PM »
DC did it a bit, too!

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« Reply #5952 on: September 28, 2019, 11:31:13 PM »
Spider-Woman is the only one in the first five issues that doesn't have at least one panel per issue where their body is fucked up, I assume it must be because of her costume or something. Although her hair length varies even on the same page at times.

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« Reply #5953 on: September 28, 2019, 11:32:17 PM »
And let's not forget Mike Deodato SEX-AY Wonder Woman!




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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5954 on: September 28, 2019, 11:36:28 PM »
like look at this simple panel of Tony firing his blasts:


why does it have this weird art background? what is up with his body proportions? wait, does he only have three fingers?  I'LL -- TAKE IT FROM HERE!!

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5955 on: September 28, 2019, 11:39:54 PM »
somebody should use this mid-90s art style for one of the animated movies

really they missed a chance with Captain Marvel to give characters jackets and pouches everywhere

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« Reply #5956 on: September 28, 2019, 11:40:51 PM »
90S GREEN AND PURPLE!!!

It looks more like he has one six-fingered hand.  :lol
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« Reply #5957 on: September 28, 2019, 11:43:04 PM »
somebody should use this mid-90s art style for one of the animated movies

really they missed a chance with Captain Marvel to give characters jackets and pouches everywhere

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5958 on: September 29, 2019, 01:15:24 AM »
Scarlet witch in force works is everything.

Massive breasts in lingerie as her superhero costume :lol

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5959 on: September 29, 2019, 01:28:39 PM »
Wait you mean to tell me that none of these pics were done by Liefeld?  ???

WTF  :mindblown

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5960 on: September 29, 2019, 01:32:53 PM »
So many hilariously-bad depictions of characters in the early Force Works issues.   :lol

I looked at some of the later ones and it had some better artists working on it, but they aren't much better and might have been just starting out, like Jim Cheung.

West Coast Avengers #102 was also essentially the "zero issue" to the first one.  Just all the Avengers sitting around talking about disbanding the team, a few of them getting pissed, and quitting.  U.S. Agent with the worst redesign by far.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5961 on: September 29, 2019, 08:19:11 PM »
Can anyone think of another artist than Liefeld who was massively popular in his day, but later clowned and reviled for the same work people previously loved?

Like Jim lee was also popular around the same time, but generally people still think his art doesn’t suck ass.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5962 on: September 29, 2019, 08:54:01 PM »
Can anyone think of another artist than Liefeld who was massively popular in his day, but later clowned and reviled for the same work people previously loved?

Like Jim lee was also popular around the same time, but generally people still think his art doesn’t suck ass.

Greg Land.



Just kidding, I don't think Land was ever popular with readers. He was definitely popular with editors since he would complete his work on time despite clearly tracing a lot of his comic models from porn models.

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« Reply #5963 on: September 29, 2019, 09:04:33 PM »
Liefeld was getting shat on even in the early-mid 90s. It wasn't just his art that people hated- he clearly stole poses from other artists and used them in his comics.  IIRC Wizard had an article on this in like '92 or '93.

And this is still up, lol-

https://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings

https://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/6/14/3084348/the-second-40-worst-rob-liefeld-drawings

You know what though?  He got his own Levi's commercial.  Take that, haterz. :smug



"Rob, have you had any formal art training?"
"No."

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5964 on: September 30, 2019, 08:06:40 AM »
I kind of forgot about Greg Land. 😂 god I hate his art. I probably hate it more than Liefeld. Is he even still around?

I always had a hard time putting my finger on exactly what I hated about it though.its bad in a much more subtle way.

I don’t remember the Liefeld backpack, but I was like 10 when he was popular. I’m pretty sure his books sold through well though, so some people didn’t hate it.

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« Reply #5965 on: September 30, 2019, 11:01:55 AM »
I kind of forgot about Greg Land. 😂 god I hate his art. I probably hate it more than Liefeld. Is he even still around?

I always had a hard time putting my finger on exactly what I hated about it though.its bad in a much more subtle way.

Greg Land is still around- he did an X-book recently.  I remember his older art being OK when he was drawing for Crossgen.  It's whenever he decided to start tracing over photos of porn stars or whatever that things got bad. 



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Now all that I’ve mentioned is pretty atrocious, but here’s where it gets unbelievably worse. Observant comic fans have noticed that a lot of his references appear to be directly taken from porn films. There isn’t an argument more convincing than this picture


I don’t remember the Liefeld backpack, but I was like 10 when he was popular. I’m pretty sure his books sold through well though, so some people didn’t hate it.

Oh, his books sold like crazy.  That was also during the comic collecting boom when so much stuff was on fire, though- especially anything X-Men related.  It was all about the artists for the younger crowd, at least- even Rob.  But I don't remember his stuff being anywhere near as popular as the other artists when they all went to Image.  Stuff like Spawn and WildCATs were way more popular than the likes of Youngblood, IIRC.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5966 on: September 30, 2019, 07:42:40 PM »
wasn't there another guy that got caught tracing porn? I remember wondering what the odds were that two artists were caught doing it

this was before they were hiring artists off DeviantArt and stuff so it wasn't common for artists to have porn backgrounds

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5967 on: September 30, 2019, 07:47:52 PM »
my favorite thing of that Captain America image is the view from above somebody made that I can't find

I did find somebody suggesting it's actually not as bad as it could be:


also this is amazing:

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« Reply #5968 on: September 30, 2019, 08:27:56 PM »
Is that like...self parody

If only- he likes to re-use poses and shit.  :lol
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5969 on: September 30, 2019, 08:50:48 PM »
Has Liefield ever acknowledged the mockery his art gets? I know Jim Lee and some of the other Image founders have admitted they drew/made some bad stuff in the 90s.

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« Reply #5970 on: September 30, 2019, 08:58:05 PM »
Has Liefield ever acknowledged the mockery his art gets? I know Jim Lee and some of the other Image founders have admitted they drew/made some bad stuff in the 90s.

Yeah:

https://comicsalliance.com/rob-liefeld-haters/

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You are producing work that is consumed and judged by the public and with today's social media and the 24 blogosphere, you better put on your big boy pants when you go outside. You are going to get poked. At some point, some where the worm will turn, it's not a promise it's a fact. Give me any one of your comic book sacred cows and I'll show you the blog, the thread or the review that tears them a new one. It's all in how you apply your perspective.

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In the late 90′s, the magazine formerly known as the Wizard came after me strong and hard, I was the brunt of jokes for an entire staff of angry fanboys, as much as can be poured on was poured on. But I kept focus as anyone in that situation should. Just because one tribe piles on you, take shelter and continue to work towards your next goal, your next project. Don't be discouraged and remember that there are many fans of your work rooting for you to succeed.

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I was drawing the third issue of a sold out comic book featuring characters that had not carried their own title in 20 years, do I let these attacks get to me? Sorry, I have no time and I have deadlines to meet, and arguing with any of these bloggers would accomplish nothing. DO NOT EVER send a negative comment or engage a negative review, its pointless and takes up valuable time. I advocate moving forward and servicing your fan base.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5971 on: September 30, 2019, 09:16:39 PM »
Ah, yeah, I had thought he had at least commented on that Cap picture once.

It's funny that at some level he understands, and even more than most people explain exactly the specific things they hate about his art, but he still falls back on "haters/fanboys" reasoning. Liefeld gets it most because it's just his style is so forever representative of the era. Jim Lee stopped drawing the same way as the trends (and his skills) changed. Even McFarlane changed and he was the other posterboy of the era.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5972 on: September 30, 2019, 09:19:24 PM »
Despite the fact that we clown rob Liefeld, I actually prefer his art to some other artists.

Like Erica Henderson. Pure trash
Javier Pulido.
Whoever drew those godawful force issues last year.

I don’t love Greg land or rob liefield, but they are far from the worst.

I don’t like frank quitely’s art on most cape
Books either. He just draws everyone looking weird as fuck. Like his X-men art.

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« Reply #5973 on: September 30, 2019, 09:20:19 PM »
Ah, yeah, I had thought he had at least commented on that Cap picture once.

It's funny that at some level he understands, and even more than most people explain exactly the specific things they hate about his art, but he still falls back on "haters/fanboys" reasoning. Liefeld gets it most because it's just his style is so forever representative of the era. Jim Lee stopped drawing the same way as the trends (and his skills) changed. Even McFarlane changed and he was the other posterboy of the era.

McFarlane mostly just stopped drawing.

I still like his art though, even if it screams 90s.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5974 on: September 30, 2019, 09:27:47 PM »
Frank Quitely might be the most highly regarded artist I actively dislike most of the time. I don't know what Morrison and Millar see in him. Although Millar seems to do something to make him draw "different", Jupiter's Legacy/Circle isn't as awful for example.

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« Reply #5975 on: September 30, 2019, 09:32:33 PM »
I don't care for Frank Quietly's art either, but he actually understands what anatomy is, unlike Rob.  :doge
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5976 on: September 30, 2019, 09:45:23 PM »
maybe Rob is a prominent ResetERA.com member :wag

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« Reply #5977 on: September 30, 2019, 11:49:46 PM »
Frank Quitely might be the most highly regarded artist I actively dislike most of the time. I don't know what Morrison and Millar see in him. Although Millar seems to do something to make him draw "different", Jupiter's Legacy/Circle isn't as awful for example.

Sometimes you get something that looks pretty good like this:
https://twitter.com/dailyhaljordan/status/1050423991905804289


Sometimes you get whatever the fuck is going on here:
https://twitter.com/stackedpodcast/status/1043207273139458053

It looks like the art in Manhattan projects.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5978 on: October 01, 2019, 12:37:45 AM »
I actually think some of his issues in New X-men look awesome and it really fit the tone of that book. It was a weird book and Jim Lee ish art would'nt have worked.

Is that podcast good by the way?

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« Reply #5979 on: October 01, 2019, 08:52:01 AM »
No idea. I was just looking for pictures of his art.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5980 on: October 02, 2019, 03:48:51 PM »
I love Quitelys layouts, but yeah, I find most of his humans to look deformed

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5981 on: October 06, 2019, 12:29:45 PM »
I was trying to remember what Frank drew and then saw that new X-Men cover...

Well Art is subjective and all that  :doge

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5982 on: October 08, 2019, 11:50:40 PM »
Monstress, fuck yeah :gladbron :leon :whew :whoo :delicious

little fox :heart :-[ :heart hugging her tail :uguu

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« Reply #5983 on: October 09, 2019, 01:36:43 PM »
House and Powers Of X are now completed.

Was a satisfying story to read overall, but I still think that this didn't "feel" like X-Men.  The way a lot of the characters acted just didn't fit how they've been depicted before.  Will let Moira slide since this story retconned pretty much everything about her.  I guess that also explains why characters came off differently, too, because OF Moira changing things, but still.  I expect things to go back to normal when the new X books start.

I think it kind of leaves you with as many questions as when the story started, but it was still a good way to end this prologue for the upcoming relaunch that starts next week.  This really was a huge reboot for the whole series.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5984 on: October 22, 2019, 02:00:38 AM »
House and Powers Of X are now completed.

Was a satisfying story to read overall, but I still think that this didn't "feel" like X-Men.  The way a lot of the characters acted just didn't fit how they've been depicted before.  Will let Moira slide since this story retconned pretty much everything about her.  I guess that also explains why characters came off differently, too, because OF Moira changing things, but still.  I expect things to go back to normal when the new X books start.

I think it kind of leaves you with as many questions as when the story started, but it was still a good way to end this prologue for the upcoming relaunch that starts next week.  This really was a huge reboot for the whole series.

Am assuming that the Red King is going to be
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the Red Queen and will be Kitty Pryde based on the Marauders book coming out.
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Is this the Hickman thing?
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« Reply #5985 on: October 22, 2019, 05:34:05 AM »
Dawn of X

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Apparently Logan is chilling with Scott's Family along with Jean and all 3 of their rooms are connected to each other (Jean in the middle)  :phil

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« Reply #5986 on: October 22, 2019, 05:50:16 AM »
Shosta- Yes!

Dawn of X

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« Reply #5987 on: October 22, 2019, 06:56:21 PM »
Shosta- Yes!

Dawn of X

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Apparently Logan is chilling with Scott's Family along with Jean and their rooms are connected to each other  :phil

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:exxy


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Mister Sinister said something in one of his notes in the House of X books that alluded to this scenario and it looks like Emma is also along for the ride?.

Now to wait for the porno spoof :phil :phil  :lol  :doge
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« Reply #5988 on: October 23, 2019, 02:29:19 PM »

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« Reply #5989 on: October 28, 2019, 10:30:55 AM »
X-Men #1: Feels like a straight continuation of Powers Of/House Of X, which makes sense since Hickman is the writer here.  Mostly focuses on Cyclops.  Nothing really happens in this issue- it's another X-Men staple "slice of life" comic for the most part.  The Sentinel-building bad-guy humans are still around, too.

Marauders #1: Really should be called "Kate 'Don't Call Me 'Kitty'' Pryde": The Comic.  This was surprisingly good and very different in tone (a lot more light-hearted) than the Hickman X-Men comics.  Kitty is the sole mutant who cannot use the teleport gates to go back and forth from/to Krakoa and becomes a sailor instead to get there, then is hired by Emma Frost to be captain of a big ship for the Hellfire Trading Company. 

I read some previews that said "Kitty is the new Wolverine" and that's kind of true, since she takes up getting hammered to ease stress and is just a total badass in fight scenes, while having a bit of a sense of humor.  I wasn't big on her being the leader of the X-Men in the Gold series (boring and devoid of personality) and this is a much, much more fun take on the character that really has me liking her again. 

She is joined by Iceman, Storm, and Pyro (the original Aussie version) and Bishop pops up too.  At the end they raise up an X-themed jolly roger on the ship- am all for X-Pirates.
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« Reply #5990 on: October 28, 2019, 12:18:30 PM »
Marvel just can't stop it with "Old Man Logan" even after he dies- Dead Man Logan #12 will set up an "Avengers Of The Wasteland" series starring Dani Cage (as Thor), Hulk Jr., and a new Ant-Man.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5991 on: November 02, 2019, 11:48:04 PM »
The Batman Who Laughs series was great Snyder nonsense. The Tales From The Dark Multiverse rewrites of past DC events are pretty amusing too, I particularly liked the Death of Superman one where Lois goes unhinged.

The Umbrella Academy - Hotel Oblivion was one hell of an extended setup, Gerard, you better have the next part coming quicker than Young Animal's non-schedule or you're in time out until you finish it.

There's been no delays on the last part of Doomsday Clock yet. Six weeks. Is Johns going to actually make it this year AND pull off the story?!?

Everything else I've got on my table is old stuff... oh wait, I read Heroes In Crisis, that was pretty stupid :lol

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5992 on: November 18, 2019, 09:15:40 AM »
The Batman Who Laughs series was great Snyder nonsense. The Tales From The Dark Multiverse rewrites of past DC events are pretty amusing too, I particularly liked the Death of Superman one where Lois goes unhinged.

The Umbrella Academy - Hotel Oblivion was one hell of an extended setup, Gerard, you better have the next part coming quicker than Young Animal's non-schedule or you're in time out until you finish it.

There's been no delays on the last part of Doomsday Clock yet. Six weeks. Is Johns going to actually make it this year AND pull off the story?!?

Everything else I've got on my table is old stuff... oh wait, I read Heroes In Crisis, that was pretty stupid :lol

I read the first Umbrella Academy and then bought the 2nd and 3rd but never read them. So for me it'll be like Doomsday Clock is the fresh new thing when I eventually grab it.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5993 on: November 18, 2019, 10:14:21 AM »
Excalibur #1: Kinda 'eh' to me.  It does have Captain Britain (Brian) and Meggan in it, but the latter has no real part in the story and Brian is turned into a bad guy, leading to Betsy becoming the new Captain Britain after stuff with a Krakoa portal popping up in a magical Camelot realm pisses off Morgan LeFay, who retaliates.  Something that has started coming up in multiple X-books is that Apocalypse knows more about Krakoa and related stuff than he is leading on, and this is no different.  He's totally gonna do a predictable heel turn on everybody at some point.

X-Force #1: Domino fucks up an attempt to go undercover and infiltrate a mutant-hating group, who then somehow find a way to make themselves all appear to be her so they can attack Krakoa and get through its defenses (handled by Black Tom Cassidy).  The terrorists look like Reavers but it's not said if they are or not, get on the island, and proceed to kill people- including Professor X.  Of course with mutants able to be brought back, this isn't as big a deal, although X being dead is kind of a problem.  Still expect him to pop back up soon enough.  This issue makes the X-Men look really fucking dumb, too- for a group of superheroes used to dealing with attacks on their own, they sure did a shitty job.  We also get a subplot where it appears that Krakoa may still be 'evil' and possibly just letting all the mutants stay there, and get comfortable, so that it can take all their energy for itself.

Fallen Angels #1: KwannonPsylocke is all emo about being resurrected and doesn't feel at home on Krakoa, so she leaves go do thangs and brings X-23 along with her.  Kid Cable will end up tagging along.  Felt kind of boring.  Can see this one getting canceled.  One thing I do like, that has been shown in multiple books, is this kind of tension between Betsy and Kwannon where Betsy kind of wants to talk with her, but Kwannon just avoids Betsy and doesn't want anything to do with her.  Maybe it would help to not use her code name and costume?
 :doge

Still need to read New Mutants #1 (supposed to be more light-hearted) and X-Men #2, featuring Krakoa going to another another island and fucking it.
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« Reply #5994 on: November 18, 2019, 10:23:24 AM »
Also read through the previous, pre-Hickman reboot X-Men series that ended earlier this year.  I read the first couple of issues but stopped because I wasn't feeling the whole "Age Of X-Man" thing or whatever it was called.  Didn't read that series either since it seemed stupid.

While that is going on, the remaining mutants not involved in that storyline all come together after Cyclops and Wolverine return from the dead and put together a new team, which is mainly New Mutants/X-Factor people.  This is the book that got some attention for killing off characters (including when Rahne quits the team and gets killed by three guys who claimed she "trapped" them, in an infamous story that got the writer in some trouble on social media) and fucking up others (Cyclops loses an eye and Madrox dupes are all kinds of fucked up, including one sort of turning into Warlock), but knowing that it all gets rebooted kind of made it more fun to read.  Was very much an "X-Men at their low point" kind of storyline- their home base becomes the back of a bar, lol. 
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5995 on: November 18, 2019, 12:06:48 PM »
I read the first Umbrella Academy and then bought the 2nd and 3rd but never read them. So for me it'll be like Doomsday Clock is the fresh new thing when I eventually grab it.
Oh, you've got Dallas? If you liked Apocalypse Suite at all, definitely check it out when you have time. You can probably wait on Hotel Oblivion since it's the first part of two. Dallas works as a standalone aside from the stuff that continues throughout the entire series.

Gerard thankfully confirmed the fourth book is already written as a story, he just has to write it into issues so it can be drawn. He did another Doom Patrol series for a break because of the show but it's not supposed to take as long as Hotel Oblivion did.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #5996 on: November 19, 2019, 10:47:15 AM »
There's been no delays on the last part of Doomsday Clock yet. Six weeks. Is Johns going to actually make it this year AND pull off the story?!?

Would be pretty crazy if they timed the release to the finale of HBO's Watchmen. :awesome Which I think is 4 weeks away.

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« Reply #5997 on: November 19, 2019, 02:07:51 PM »
There's been no delays on the last part of Doomsday Clock yet. Six weeks. Is Johns going to actually make it this year AND pull off the story?!?

Would be pretty crazy if they timed the release to the finale of HBO's Watchmen. :awesome Which I think is 4 weeks away.

Which season of watchmen?!

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« Reply #5998 on: November 19, 2019, 02:40:01 PM »
:thinking...!

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