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« Reply #12300 on: September 10, 2022, 03:22:24 AM »
There should be so much anger at Putin for throwing their kids into this meat grinder with absolutely nothing to win. At this point casualties might be as high as 50.000
They are officially that high. The Russian MOD leaked a letter of the payouts to Russian families. Dividing the total sum with the amount promised for each soldier brings up the total to ~47k soldiers. But that does not include wagner mercs, foreign volunteers or DNR/LNR rebels. So it could be up to 60k.

As for the strategy, Ukraine attacked the South, made a little progress, then the russkies pulled troops from the North to help defend it leaving the area surrounding Kharkiv lightly defended. UAF casualties were significant too in the opening phase. Putin is obsessed with Crimea so this strategy was probably his call.

Putin has arrested another 5 officials who called for his removal. Problem for him is that their main argument is that he lost the war, expanded NATO and that Ukraine has more weapons and armies now than they did before the war.
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« Reply #12301 on: September 10, 2022, 03:34:44 AM »
There should be so much anger at Putin for throwing their kids into this meat grinder with absolutely nothing to win. At this point casualties might be as high as 50.000
They are officially that high. The Russian MOD leaked a letter of the payouts to Russian families. Dividing the total sum with the amount promised for each soldier brings up the total to ~47k soldiers. But that does not include wagner mercs, foreign volunteers or DNR/LNR rebels. So it could be up to 60k.

As for the strategy, Ukraine attacked the South, made a little progress, then the russkies pulled troops from the North to help defend it leaving the area surrounding Kharkiv lightly defended. UAF casualties were significant too in the opening phase. Putin is obsessed with Crimea so this strategy was probably his call.

Putin has arrested another 5 officials who called for his removal. Problem for him is that their main argument is that he lost the war, expanded NATO and that Ukraine has more weapons and armies now than they did before the war.

Was that document verified? Seems doubtful that they are able to confirm that number of fallen soldiers so quickly.
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« Reply #12302 on: September 10, 2022, 04:09:56 AM »
It's a mundane government document where they state the total pay out and request additional budget. Still it remains Russia so difficult to verify.

https://twitter.com/mbk_center/status/1568174194243915776

Also the alternative take on UA's attack is that they have thrown in their reserves and have little hope of keeping the ground they've retaken. However it's hard to see where Russia would find the force for such a counter attack.
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« Reply #12303 on: September 10, 2022, 09:59:32 AM »
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« Reply #12304 on: September 10, 2022, 11:37:22 AM »
Russians pulling out of Kharkiv and Luhansk oblasts towards Donetsk.
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« Reply #12305 on: September 10, 2022, 12:43:39 PM »
Rumors that the head of Donetsk has already fled

https://twitter.com/mhmck/status/1568623664089661440
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« Reply #12306 on: September 10, 2022, 01:24:20 PM »
Hilarious, apparently "Penis" recorded this while running away.

https://twitter.com/dimaFromUkraine/status/1568616989337296897
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« Reply #12307 on: September 10, 2022, 03:55:31 PM »
https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1568689196747079680

The Z-army fled and left everything behind including heavy artillery.

about 30 - 40 heavy artillery pieces marked with a Z neatly parked in a lot.

While there are celebrations, performances and fireworks in Moscow, the Russian army could be defeated in Donetsk next.
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« Reply #12308 on: September 11, 2022, 03:50:18 AM »
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« Reply #12309 on: September 11, 2022, 05:14:50 AM »
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« Reply #12310 on: September 11, 2022, 05:27:27 AM »
The capitulation continues, the Russians have fled the border town of Kozacha Lopan in Kharkiv oblast towards Belgorod(Russia), locals have retaken the city hall, just 3 miles from the Russian border.





Even if you think the Russian orders to retreat from Kharkiv to Donetsk are strategically sound that is not what their soldiers are doing.
They are simply fleeing back to Russia leaving all their military equipment behind.

DNR and LNR seperatists however, aren't allowed entry into the Russian Federation even though they were issued Russian passports and were promised entry.

Reports coming in that the Russians are also leaving Luhansk and other cities they have occupied since 2014 which are not in the areas their military ordered them to withdraw from.
Unless there are different orders issued by now.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1568860757537837056

Kadyrov says mistakes have been made by the Russian MOD(now dubbed 'Ministry of Defeat) and has pledged to send 10k troops to reconquer the Kharkiv cities and fight on to Odessa.
He says that if the Russian strategy doesn't change today or tommorow he will take it up with the leadership (Putin).


Lukashenko sees the writing on the wall and pledges to return his ambassador to Kyiv stating:
"God knows, this quarrel was not worth it"
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« Reply #12311 on: September 11, 2022, 01:38:51 PM »
Ukraine controls the border crossings now
https://twitter.com/UkrArmyBlog/status/1569000444688490496

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1569007219668025345

Reports that Russia is also getting ready to leave strongholds in the Kherson region and perhaps even surrender the city.
Rumors that the Chechens and Russians have started to fight eachother in some places.

So far no breakthrough in Donetsk, UA attacked Pisky but was repelled by Russian artillery.

To buy time the Russians have just attacked the power grids and power plants of multiple eastern cities with missile strikes like Dnipro and Sumy, causing black-outs.
Side-effect, they also caused a black-out in Belgorod Russia.

https://twitter.com/newsistaan/status/1569021323980197888

The blame game has started
https://twitter.com/OlgaNYC1211/status/1569012074881114112
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« Reply #12312 on: September 11, 2022, 02:04:30 PM »
I'm hearing rumors that the Ukrainian attack has been so successful they're marching into Poland and Austria as well
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« Reply #12313 on: September 11, 2022, 02:11:25 PM »


Unverified reports that the Commander of the Kharkiv front has been fired

https://twitter.com/dpatrikarakos/status/1569019361003974656
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« Reply #12314 on: September 11, 2022, 02:56:53 PM »
https://twitter.com/uasupport999/status/1568934042669838336

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« Reply #12315 on: September 11, 2022, 06:00:15 PM »
The only viable strategy for Russia seems to be to give up on Luhansk, contain Ukraine on the south riverbank of the Dnipro. and continue along the black sea coast to conquer Odessa.
This would force Ukraine to halt their offensive and shore up their defenses. Kadyrovs plan is less stupid than it seems apart from the fact that he wants to go to Kharkiv first to retake what was lost and then move to Odessa.

Meanwhile in Sweden the result between the left and right wing block is very very close. It's going to be a nailbiter.


Holy fucking shit, they probably shot this guy after the show after he drags all of Putin's toadies throught he mud on national TV.

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569070513909022720

The Russian bloggers and influencers truely have the worst ideas.
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« Reply #12316 on: September 11, 2022, 10:17:02 PM »
Problem with mobilization is that Russian military assets have been severely reduced over the last 6 months, whereas Ukraine continues to receive US aide (as well as abandoned Russian equipment). Raising a large amount of ethnic Russians from Moscow and equipping them with whatever barebones stuff that remains is only going to get them killed and destabilize Putin's reign.

That being said it's probably a damned if you do/damned if you don't situation. If he doesn't mobilize, the hardliners may win out and replace him (violently or otherwise). If he does mobilize it seems highly unlikely that victory is achievable, which also results in him being replaced.

A few months ago I would have said declaring victory and claiming the "special operation" was a success - with whatever small gains Russia had at the time - was the only off ramp. Now they've lost those gains and are unlikely to get them back anytime soon. So...where's the off ramp for Putin? I don't know.
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« Reply #12317 on: September 11, 2022, 10:28:02 PM »
Is Putin aware of how dangerous Russian windows can be? I hope he's not standing in front of one any time soon...
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« Reply #12318 on: September 12, 2022, 06:38:07 AM »
Problem with mobilization is that Russian military assets have been severely reduced over the last 6 months, whereas Ukraine continues to receive US aide (as well as abandoned Russian equipment).

I've been thinking, do they even really want this? outside of knowing that having it deprives russia of what little working gear they had

saw a video of a captured russian soldier admitting that half the tanks are unable to move but can still shoot, while the other half have broken autoloaders and can't shoot but can move

feel like at some point just dealing with the scrap is going to be a massive liability for ukraine
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« Reply #12319 on: September 12, 2022, 08:52:58 AM »
Problem with mobilization is that Russian military assets have been severely reduced over the last 6 months, whereas Ukraine continues to receive US aide (as well as abandoned Russian equipment).

I've been thinking, do they even really want this? outside of knowing that having it deprives russia of what little working gear they had

saw a video of a captured russian soldier admitting that half the tanks are unable to move but can still shoot, while the other half have broken autoloaders and can't shoot but can move

feel like at some point just dealing with the scrap is going to be a massive liability for ukraine

Good point. I did see vids of large groups of ammo and tank artillery, which presumably can be used. But if the vehicles are borked then they should be left alone. That explains all the vids of Russian tanks being completely stationary, in defensive positions near trees/bushes that get easily annihilated by Ukrainian artillery or drones.
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« Reply #12320 on: September 12, 2022, 09:24:07 AM »
If Russia is losing as badly as the rumors say, they should be starting up the next round of nuke talks soon
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« Reply #12321 on: September 12, 2022, 11:06:59 AM »
18 districts calling for Putin to resign, this is huge.
https://twitter.com/WhereisRussia/status/1569260715420024835

Putin just doesn't seem to have any control over the situation anymore.
Remember how before the attack was launched each of his cronies had to vote on live TV if they supported or opposed starting the 'not-war'.
He made the head of his intelligence services shit his pants in 8 colors. 

The Putin of 5 years ago would've flown to the front himself to fire the generals on the spot.
He would've done it very publicly and made clear that the next one to fail wouldn't be so lucky to just get fired.

Currently all he can do is meander about the nuclear power plant to Macron and open a ferris wheel in Moscow while his army is being crushed.
Kadyrov is openly saying he disagrees with the leadership and the propagandists are fighting on live TV. Some of them calling for war others for unity.

Putin, after boasting that he was the new Alexander the Great is completely checked out from all this.

Maybe he got shook by the bombing of Dugina or perhaps he thinks that if he just ignores there is a problem, the problem will go away.
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« Reply #12322 on: September 12, 2022, 11:23:01 AM »
Old Vlad is off his game because he misses his best bud  :trumps
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« Reply #12323 on: September 12, 2022, 11:43:14 AM »
Western puppet replacement please so we can have all of that tremendous gas and oil on the cheap :trumps
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« Reply #12324 on: September 12, 2022, 12:06:53 PM »
I guess the public can support a senseless war. What they can't support is a senseless war they're losing.

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« Reply #12325 on: September 12, 2022, 12:11:18 PM »
Reports coming in that the Russians in Kherson are negotiating their surrender.

https://twitter.com/YAmzallagh/status/1569279660898529281

I guess the public can support a senseless war. What they can't support is a senseless war they're losing.
Putin did the Afghanistan speed run in like 7 months. The soldiers there don't even know why they are fighting.

Even the vague goals that the Russians have like demilitarization have no specifics. As of now Ukraine has only trained more soldiers and bought more weapons.
The exact opposite of what they intended to do.
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« Reply #12326 on: September 12, 2022, 01:06:41 PM »
Reports coming in that the Russians in Kherson are negotiating their surrender.

"Kherson, I choose you as my first (tactical) nuke target".

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« Reply #12328 on: September 12, 2022, 02:13:56 PM »


Funny how there is a never a far left even if they literally worship Fidel Castro and want everyone to eat bugs.
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« Reply #12329 on: September 12, 2022, 02:50:39 PM »
It's the far right and the loony left :snob
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« Reply #12330 on: September 12, 2022, 03:10:25 PM »
What's the odds on Putin dying by falling from a first storey window?
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« Reply #12331 on: September 12, 2022, 03:22:17 PM »
The Swedish left party is basically Swedish social democracy as it was in the 90's.

The actual current loons in Swedish politics are the greens and the "center party" (anti union people who used to be in the right wing block and are probably further to the right of SD on 90% of the issues, excluding immigration and crime)

And the left party specifically went to the election reducing their idpol sperging by 90% and this time they didn't really speak that much about the "far right" SD  - who are idpol sperging, but their actual platform is probably the least right wing of the entire right block.

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« Reply #12332 on: September 12, 2022, 03:22:56 PM »
What's the odds on Putin dying by falling from a first storey window?
He'll probably die of 'natural causes'.

With that said the regime is telling the population that 'total war' on Ukraine is the way out of this jam.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569368457602387969

Even if that satisfies her bloodlust it won't bring Russia any closer to its goal of returning Ukraine to the empire.


The Swedish left party is basically Swedish social democracy as it was in the 90's.

The actual current loons in Swedish politics are the greens and the "center party" (anti union people who used to be in the right wing block and are probably further to the right of SD on 90% of the issues, excluding immigration and crime)

And the left party specifically went to the election reducing their idpol sperging by 90% and this time they didn't really speak that much about the "far right" SD  - who are idpol sperging, but their actual platform is probably the least right wing of the entire right block.
From what I've seen reported here in the Netherlands the SocDems in Sweden did a 180 turn on migration and especially integration.
The left here too was convinced that was the winning strategy.

It's funny that 10 - 20 years ago the right in Europe always accused the left of bringing in all the migrants as new voters and most of these left wing parties now mostly rely on those votes and lose when they circle back to the importance of the national identity and local culture and things like that. While on the flip side the center-right now depends on these migrants as cheap labour so they don't really do anything to secure borders and limit migration either. At the same time this gives them an excuse to curb welfare and benefits because they say that will make it less attractive for migrants to move here.

The greens are loons across Europe. I don't understand why people vote for them. A few years ago our Green Party won a bunch of local city elections and could set the energy policies.
And to 'transition' to green energy they shut down all sorts of plans for cheap and reliable energy in favor of building incinerators to burn trees.
In Germany the greens ran on an anti-war platform and now their leader as foreign minister says she doesn't care about her voters and that they should simply suck it up, accept their higher bills and the war in Ukraine must continue.
At the same time Germany barely delivers any military support to Ukraine. The US, Poland and UK are doing the heavy lifting since the start.

Oh well hopefully Sweden gets a functioning government that can reduce the crime and lawnesses in some cities.
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« Reply #12334 on: September 12, 2022, 04:08:09 PM »
I hear marxists and tankies are getting arrested all over the place and crying about it :gbcry

https://twitter.com/standardnews/status/1569270901685862403



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« Reply #12335 on: September 12, 2022, 04:28:28 PM »
What's the odds on Putin dying by falling from a first storey window?
He'll probably die of 'natural causes'.

With that said the regime is telling the population that 'total war' on Ukraine is the way out of this jam.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569368457602387969

Even if that satisfies her bloodlust it won't bring Russia any closer to its goal of returning Ukraine to the empire.


The Swedish left party is basically Swedish social democracy as it was in the 90's.

The actual current loons in Swedish politics are the greens and the "center party" (anti union people who used to be in the right wing block and are probably further to the right of SD on 90% of the issues, excluding immigration and crime)

And the left party specifically went to the election reducing their idpol sperging by 90% and this time they didn't really speak that much about the "far right" SD  - who are idpol sperging, but their actual platform is probably the least right wing of the entire right block.
From what I've seen reported here in the Netherlands the SocDems in Sweden did a 180 turn on migration and especially integration.
The left here too was convinced that was the winning strategy.

It's funny that 10 - 20 years ago the right in Europe always accused the left of bringing in all the migrants as new voters and most of these left wing parties now mostly rely on those votes and lose when they circle back to the importance of the national identity and local culture and things like that. While on the flip side the center-right now depends on these migrants as cheap labour so they don't really do anything to secure borders and limit migration either. At the same time this gives them an excuse to curb welfare and benefits because they say that will make it less attractive for migrants to move here.

The greens are loons across Europe. I don't understand why people vote for them. A few years ago our Green Party won a bunch of local city elections and could set the energy policies.
And to 'transition' to green energy they shut down all sorts of plans for cheap and reliable energy in favor of building incinerators to burn trees.
In Germany the greens ran on an anti-war platform and now their leader as foreign minister says she doesn't care about her voters and that they should simply suck it up, accept their higher bills and the war in Ukraine must continue.
At the same time Germany barely delivers any military support to Ukraine. The US, Poland and UK are doing the heavy lifting since the start.

Oh well hopefully Sweden gets a functioning government that can reduce the crime and lawnesses in some cities.

another thing is that the seats in parliament went from 175-174 to 174-175 (final results on wednesday earliest though, might change yet) so the shift in opinion wasn't exactly massive. We will most likely have another minority government for the next four years, because the liberals won't want to sit in the cabinet together with SD.

and in addition to the SD win we will now also likely have a radical islamist party with ties to erdogan and the gray wolves taking seats in the local councils in some of our worst "risk areas". Exactly what we needed to encourage integration in those neighbourhoods!  :lol

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« Reply #12336 on: September 12, 2022, 05:00:20 PM »
What's the odds on Putin dying by falling from a first storey window?
He'll probably die of 'natural causes'.

With that said the regime is telling the population that 'total war' on Ukraine is the way out of this jam.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569368457602387969

Even if that satisfies her bloodlust it won't bring Russia any closer to its goal of returning Ukraine to the empire.


The Swedish left party is basically Swedish social democracy as it was in the 90's.

The actual current loons in Swedish politics are the greens and the "center party" (anti union people who used to be in the right wing block and are probably further to the right of SD on 90% of the issues, excluding immigration and crime)

And the left party specifically went to the election reducing their idpol sperging by 90% and this time they didn't really speak that much about the "far right" SD  - who are idpol sperging, but their actual platform is probably the least right wing of the entire right block.
From what I've seen reported here in the Netherlands the SocDems in Sweden did a 180 turn on migration and especially integration.
The left here too was convinced that was the winning strategy.

It's funny that 10 - 20 years ago the right in Europe always accused the left of bringing in all the migrants as new voters and most of these left wing parties now mostly rely on those votes and lose when they circle back to the importance of the national identity and local culture and things like that. While on the flip side the center-right now depends on these migrants as cheap labour so they don't really do anything to secure borders and limit migration either. At the same time this gives them an excuse to curb welfare and benefits because they say that will make it less attractive for migrants to move here.

The greens are loons across Europe. I don't understand why people vote for them. A few years ago our Green Party won a bunch of local city elections and could set the energy policies.
And to 'transition' to green energy they shut down all sorts of plans for cheap and reliable energy in favor of building incinerators to burn trees.
In Germany the greens ran on an anti-war platform and now their leader as foreign minister says she doesn't care about her voters and that they should simply suck it up, accept their higher bills and the war in Ukraine must continue.
At the same time Germany barely delivers any military support to Ukraine. The US, Poland and UK are doing the heavy lifting since the start.

Oh well hopefully Sweden gets a functioning government that can reduce the crime and lawnesses in some cities.

another thing is that the seats in parliament went from 175-174 to 174-175 (final results on wednesday earliest though, might change yet) so the shift in opinion wasn't exactly massive. We will most likely have another minority government for the next four years, because the liberals won't want to sit in the cabinet together with SD.

and in addition to the SD win we will now also likely have a radical islamist party with ties to erdogan and the gray wolves taking seats in the local councils in some of our worst "risk areas". Exactly what we needed to encourage integration in those neighbourhoods!  :lol

oh, another thing - the school election (mock election held in all schools to prep kids for voting) was a landslide for M and SD, that's kinda notable because previously they were called "generation greta", but the greens in the school election barely even made it past the 4% bar to get any seat at all.


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« Reply #12337 on: September 12, 2022, 06:04:18 PM »
That's almost exactly what's happening here. An Erdogan party that split from the left and is eating their lunch.
And the young people are right wing also but it's also impressive how many kids the left brainwashed into thinking that they can stop the planet from being destroyed by walking around with plastic signs so their leader can fly to Davos.

I have a Syrian intern now and he was talking about his mail delivery job and how he encountered casual racism there.
Just small but very mean things like not taking over his shift or leaving a mess for him to clean up or whatever.
Every example basically involved boomers or rather people over 50 disrespecting him.

You won't get very far in life if you're a raging racist all the time but these boomers sit in entrenched positions with endless contracts and big houses giving you the climate gospel while not tipping the Pizza guy because he ain't white.
I'm convinced that we don't have a racism problem we have a boomer problem.

The "far-right" seems to realize this also because more and more what the media dubs "far-right" voices aren't white and most of their base is pretty young.
In Sweden you're just seeing a generational shift and if the left doesn't wisen up I fear they won't be around in 10 or 20 years time.
If the current trajectory holds it will be conservative muslim and 'far-right' parties in power for a long time who will block the progressives and their NGO's at every turn.




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« Reply #12338 on: September 12, 2022, 06:57:52 PM »
Nintex, will you survive until the Nintendo Direct? HOLD!
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« Reply #12339 on: September 12, 2022, 07:05:49 PM »
Russia is a valuable ally of Armenia  :doge

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Ivan Pechorin, 39, managing director of the Corporation for the Development of the Far East and the Arctic, reportedly fell off a boat at full speed and died Saturday near Russky Island in the Sea of Japan in Primorsky Krai, Russia, near Vladivostock, about 5,800 miles east of Moscow.

https://www.newsweek.com/putins-key-man-artic-found-dead-after-falling-overboard-1742218

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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12342 on: September 13, 2022, 11:56:07 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/sep/13/russia-ukraine-war-blinken-hails-significant-progress-as-ukraines-forces-reach-russian-border-in-north

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In the Russian-occupied regions of the Crimea and southern Ukraine, Russian proxies, intelligence officers and military commanders have begun to evacuate and “urgently resettle their families” back into Russian territory, the defence intelligence of Ukraine’s military of defence said.

Defence intelligence officials noted that Russian nationals were “secretly trying to sell their homes and to urgently evacuate their relatives from the peninsula”.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12343 on: September 13, 2022, 12:34:47 PM »
https://twitter.com/CrazyItalianPol/status/1569578284567904256

he's back


The EU is planning to tax energy companies 33% and give that money back to us, the people.
That would be about 1250 Euro for each European citizen :money
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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12344 on: September 13, 2022, 01:14:19 PM »
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germanys-scholz-russias-putin-discuss-ukraine-phone-call-2022-09-13/

First time they've talked in weeks but really small on the details besides Scholz saying that Russia needs to leave the Ukraine

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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12345 on: September 13, 2022, 01:56:20 PM »
They spoke for 90 minutes apparently.
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« Reply #12346 on: September 13, 2022, 07:18:17 PM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12347 on: September 13, 2022, 08:40:41 PM »
I agree Russians are being prepared for mobilization but, assuming Putin has a shred of rationality left...he's gotta know it's a trap. Assuming Russia is unable to simply retake most of the territory they lost this month, by the time mobilization is ready to go, those areas will be too well defended. He'd be sending a bunch of Moscow kids to be blown to bits by HIMARS and artillery. And the minute it fails he gets all the blame while some dude says "I would have done it better" and then the knives come out.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12348 on: September 14, 2022, 07:03:28 AM »
It's interesting to see the shift in their propaganda channels.

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569810748989390850

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569870269191229440

On the front Russia has send their Wagner PMC's to attack in the direction of Bakhmut with some success with a concentrated force on a small 20km front.

https://twitter.com/CedricMas/status/1569935980282396673



Militarily it looks like the Russians want to conquer the remainder of Donetsk and prevent Ukraine from taking Luhansk.
Once the front is 'fixed' there they achieved their objectives of liberating the DNR/LNR and they can use the area's on the black sea coast to negotiate.

The EU needs to badly step up their supply of vehicles (but Germany is blocking again) so Ukraine can keep up the momentum of the counter offensive.
I think Bakhmut will fall to the Russians soon but Ukraine will make a push for it so both sides will likely clash at Slovyansk.
Luhansk, Donetsk and Mariupol will be very difficult to retake for Ukraine. I would say impossible with military force unless the Russians evacuate those areas like they did in Kharkiv to prevent heavy losses and encirclement.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12349 on: September 14, 2022, 07:38:02 AM »
Uncle

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« Reply #12351 on: September 14, 2022, 04:46:56 PM »
Important development in the South, Ukraine claims to have taken a town just 10km from Kherson airport

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1570108219963441152

If this is the case than they are close to taking Kherson city itself.


Wagner is apparently recruiting in prison camps. This is some fucked up shit
https://twitter.com/kozako01/status/1570153293480960006
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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12352 on: September 14, 2022, 06:10:28 PM »
Lukashenka is making another goodwill gesture, chopping wood so Europe won't freeze.
He sees the writing on the wall.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1570026036800225280
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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12353 on: September 15, 2022, 12:26:15 PM »
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1570417540513558533

As Putin meets with Xi and other (Central) Asian leaders the regime at home is trying to figure out a solution.
It seems they've settled on a lack of manpower and now everyone has their own ideas of how to fix this.

- Solovyov proposes that Russia forms a coalition with the likes of Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba to fight Ukraine together
- Kadyrov proposes that each Russian region fields a 1000 volunteers, thus raising an army of 85 000
- Wagner is arming convicts with tanks and artillery
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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12354 on: September 15, 2022, 02:13:01 PM »
Can someone from the monarchy explain?

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1570146903798546433

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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12355 on: September 15, 2022, 02:19:03 PM »
Flag shaggers :stahp

Let's just say some people and authorities are relishing being able become unhinged and revel in the grief for a few weeks
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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #12356 on: September 15, 2022, 03:33:16 PM »
The most sincere mourning is forced mourning  :brain
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« Reply #12357 on: September 15, 2022, 03:35:16 PM »
The fact that the bore wasnt taken down during the mourning period is insulting and you can bet your ass Im reporting this to the royal guard
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« Reply #12358 on: September 15, 2022, 06:19:00 PM »


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« Reply #12359 on: September 16, 2022, 03:13:08 AM »
Notice how the elites don't drink their wine or eat their food.
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