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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6000 on: May 11, 2019, 07:40:34 PM »
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« Reply #6001 on: May 12, 2019, 03:28:41 AM »
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« Reply #6002 on: May 12, 2019, 10:59:04 AM »
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WARSAW (Reuters) - Hundreds of far-right supporters marched in Warsaw on Saturday to protest against a U.S. law on the restitution of Jewish property seized during or after World War Two, an issue increasingly featuring in campaigns for upcoming Polish elections.

Carrying placards with slogans including “Poland has no obligations” and “Holocaust hyenas”, demonstrators marched from the prime minister’s office to the U.S. embassy in central Warsaw.

Poland was home to one of the world’s biggest Jewish communities before it was almost entirely wiped out by Nazi German occupiers who set up death camps such as Auschwitz on Polish soil.

Former owners and their descendents have been campaigning since the fall of communism in 1989 to be compensated for lost property, which was seized by Poland’s authoritarian rulers but successive Polish administrations have lacked the money or determination to resolve the issue.

The nationalist Law and Justice (PiS) government has said that as a victim in World War Two Poland should not be saddled with any financial obligations.

Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki repeated that message at an election rally in the northern town of Mlawa on Saturday, state run news agency PAP reported.

“We will not allow any damages to be paid to anyone because it is us who should get damages,” PAP quoted him as saying.

Poland will hold European parliament elections on May 26. Elections for its own parliament will take place in the autumn.

The Justice for Uncompensated Survivors Today (JUST) Act, or Act 447, requires the U.S. Department of State to provide a report to Congress on the progress of dozens of countries that signed a declaration in 2009 on the restitution of assets seized during or following World War Two.

The so-called Terezin declaration also includes provisions to give formerly Jewish-owned property with no heirs to Holocaust survivors in need of financial help or to support education on the subject.

“There is no such law in the world that would sanction (restitution of heirless property) and the Americans want to force us to pay those damages which are simply illegitimate,” said Adam Jureczek, a driver from the south-western region of Silesia.

On a visit to Warsaw on Wednesday, the U.S. State Department’s special envoy for monitoring and combating anti-Semitism, Elan Carr, said Act 447 only obliged the U.S. government to prepare a report on compliance with the Terezin declaration and it was up to Poland to decide how it would comply.

Polish far-right supporters have said that the law could result in Jewish organisations demanding as much as $300 billion in compensation.

More than 3 million of Poland’s Jewish population of 3.2 million were killed during the Holocaust.

The PiS party, which has been ahead in most polls for the European elections, has succeeded in building a broad coalition of conservative-minded voters, but critics have accused it of turning a blind eye to far-right extremism.

Prior to Saturday’s march, two anti-fascist activists wrote to Warsaw’s local government warning of possible anti-Semitic hate speech at the protest, daily Gazeta Wyborcza reported.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-poland-israel/polish-far-right-supporters-protest-against-restitution-of-jewish-property-idUSKCN1SH0HA

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6004 on: May 12, 2019, 05:51:45 PM »
https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1126879279411757057

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« Reply #6005 on: May 12, 2019, 06:14:37 PM »
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“The man who has been basically a hate preacher and has targeted me for years – and not just me, he has done it to other women, too – only yesterday was he demonetised on YouTube,” she said. “If you’re neutral in the face of fascism then you’re an appeaser, so yes, they’ve got to do much, much more.”
That labour MP thinks some edgelord fatso on YouTube = fascism.

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“There’s been an awful lot of talk about whether I would or wouldn’t rape Jess Phillips,” Benjamin said in one of his videos on the platform. “I’ve been in a lot of trouble for my hardline stance of not even raping her. I suppose with enough pressure I might cave. But let’s be honest, nobody’s got that much beer.”
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YouTube Has Demonetized One of GamerGate's Biggest Voices

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6006 on: May 13, 2019, 10:09:09 AM »
Leave US politics in the other garbage thread. :camby

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6007 on: May 13, 2019, 11:01:09 AM »
I just wanted to know how being a mod must feel like. :fbm



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« Reply #6010 on: May 14, 2019, 12:00:16 AM »
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« Reply #6011 on: May 14, 2019, 03:33:58 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/world/middleeast/us-military-plans-iran.html
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White House Reviews Military Plans Against Iran, in Echoes of Iraq War

At a meeting of President Trump’s top national security aides last Thursday, Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan presented an updated military plan that envisions sending as many as 120,000 troops to the Middle East should Iran attack American forces or accelerate work on nuclear weapons, administration officials said.

The revisions were ordered by hard-liners led by John R. Bolton, Mr. Trump’s national security adviser. They do not call for a land invasion of Iran, which would require vastly more troops, officials said.
Shit, here we go again

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6012 on: May 14, 2019, 11:17:49 AM »


The Canadian version of the CIA trying to assassinate Castro.

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« Reply #6013 on: May 14, 2019, 03:06:13 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/world/middleeast/us-military-plans-iran.html
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White House Reviews Military Plans Against Iran, in Echoes of Iraq War

At a meeting of President Trump’s top national security aides last Thursday, Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan presented an updated military plan that envisions sending as many as 120,000 troops to the Middle East should Iran attack American forces or accelerate work on nuclear weapons, administration officials said.

The revisions were ordered by hard-liners led by John R. Bolton, Mr. Trump’s national security adviser. They do not call for a land invasion of Iran, which would require vastly more troops, officials said.
Shit, here we go again

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1128324697530208257

At least this war will offer some comedic relief  :doge
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6014 on: May 14, 2019, 05:15:43 PM »
CENTCOM has just thrown their second in command under the bus after he said there weren't any new threats.

https://twitter.com/LizSly/status/1128402062579044355

If the planning by Rumsfeld, Cheney and others who walked around with the idea to invade Iraq for over a decade was inadequate.
Imagine what the war plans and post-conflict planning of the Trump administration looks like.  :doge
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6015 on: May 14, 2019, 06:00:26 PM »
If it happens it'll be the first war in recorded history declared with incoherent rambling about stealing oil, infrastructure, tremendous numbers, big tough generals and some USAF pilot named Miike with a cool helmet who has to do most of the hard work but doesn't care because he loves his country. 
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6016 on: May 14, 2019, 07:25:29 PM »
Jared's gonna have a lot on his plate.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6017 on: May 15, 2019, 10:02:28 PM »
Ever heard of child protective services?
Must be a Trump organization, according to your logic.

Total and permanent separation of parents from children by child protective services is not particularly common, and certainly less common or uniformly applied than what you proposed.

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« Reply #6018 on: May 16, 2019, 03:24:42 AM »
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« Reply #6020 on: May 16, 2019, 03:31:19 PM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6021 on: May 16, 2019, 04:23:00 PM »
Nintex tries for the "praise fuckery" angle.

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« Reply #6022 on: May 16, 2019, 04:25:47 PM »
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« Reply #6025 on: May 17, 2019, 12:54:16 PM »
Ah yes Graphs,

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6026 on: May 17, 2019, 05:02:58 PM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6027 on: May 17, 2019, 05:04:46 PM »
Who could have possibly seen this coming?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48304867

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Talks between Labour and the government aimed at breaking the Brexit impasse have ended without an agreement.

Jeremy Corbyn said the discussions had "gone as far as they can", blaming what he called the government's "increasing weakness and instability".

Theresa May said the lack of a "common position" within Labour over a further referendum had made talks "difficult".

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6028 on: May 17, 2019, 07:15:17 PM »
VICE - COLOMBIA TELLS 800 VENEZUELAN SOLDIERS TO GET A JOB INSTEAD OF OVERTHROWING MADURO

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Williams Cancino thought he had come to Colombia to join an army that would one day liberate his native Venezuela from embattled President Nicolas Maduro’s grasp. For almost three months, he waited alongside more than 800 fellow military defectors for the revolution to begin.

But it never did. Now, instead of worrying if he’ll ever receive his marching orders from Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido, he’s scrambling to find a place to sleep.

This week, as representatives for Guaido traveled to Norway to hold talks with Venezuelan government officials, Colombia announced it was changing its policy towards the Venezuelan military defectors and their family members, who since February have been housed and fed in three hotels at a cost to the government of more than $10,000 per day. Cancino and his comrades were given eight days to leave the hotels and find somewhere else to stay.

“We feel defrauded,” Cancino said. “We left everything behind — family, work, our lives — just to start here from zero? This was something very poorly done, very poorly organized.”

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Their stay in Colombia has encountered numerous issues, including the Venezuelan opposition often being late paying their share of the hotel bill, several defectors recounted, which led to them getting booted with their luggage into the streets outside one hotel until the debt was covered.

:dead wondering whether trump administration was worth it for this headline alone
I made a joke about Trump not paying the coup people a couple of weeks ago.

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prepare for Operation Persian Freedom. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6029 on: May 18, 2019, 07:36:37 AM »
Interesting results in the Australian Federal election tonight.

Labor Party thought they had it in the bag, but the electorate said, yeah nah cunt, I think we'll stick with old mate who's in there now.

I guess when you're trying to win government is not a good idea to say to a bunch of people who rely on coal mining to survive that you are going to phase out their industry.
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« Reply #6030 on: May 18, 2019, 10:13:32 AM »
Yeah, should have lied about it and then phased it out.

Lying is the way to go nowadays, there are no consequences.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6031 on: May 18, 2019, 03:26:35 PM »
Austrian neo-nazi government cancelled today after a video showing corrupt deals with Russians was shadow-dropped :rejoice Even this old nazi country does what you mericans can't  :girlaff :crowdlaff 

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« Reply #6033 on: May 19, 2019, 03:08:40 PM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6034 on: May 19, 2019, 04:45:52 PM »
So Yurop frens how is the EU election(TM) going in your member state?
In our country the ruling party (VVD) is in a shared 1st spot with the now famous FVD.

Thierry has challenged our PM Mark Rutte to a debate the day prior to the vote and he has accepted after some back and forth about the terms.


On the left leader of the FVD Thierry Baudet
On the right a former journalist who now lives in New York who will be Thierry's man in Brussels

The ruling party is bombarding Thierry with YouTube videos critizing him, which only makes his position as a legitimate challenger stronger.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6035 on: May 19, 2019, 05:04:50 PM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6038 on: May 20, 2019, 02:35:41 PM »
Fear will keep the local oblasts in line.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6039 on: May 21, 2019, 04:03:00 AM »
French Socialists are good for a laugh if anything, as Raphael Glucksmann (I'm sure Kara will be familiar with his father), who leads the Place Publique list (feat. the remnants of the PSF), met with the Socialist Portuguese Prime Minister, Antonio Costa, and promptly claimed to have his support. Alas, Costa was received by Macron at the Elysée a few hours later and they made a joint statement where Costa clearly seems to weight in for a "the new progressive pro European impulse" spearheaded by the French President.

I'll probably vote Communist and add myself to the other 2% who'll do the same.
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« Reply #6040 on: May 21, 2019, 04:25:52 AM »
As for the Euro election proper, basically no one cares. There will be a couple televised debates this week for a limp spike in interest but only 40% of registered voters are expected to vote. Apparently it's much of the same everywhere else, it's not uncommon to have 30 or 40 lists running in your country of residence (Italy has only 20 or so though).

Apparently there was a debate in Brussels with 4 or 6 of leading figures for their respective movements at the European level and some of the nationalist far right euroskeptics has a big get together to convince everyone they'll be able to coordinate.

Basically the big picture outcome is that the PPE / PSOE will lose their tight grip on the Europarliament and we should be headed for a four blocks divide : PPE, PSOE, the liberal (in the Euro sense of free markets and personal freedoms) ALDE which Macron's party may or may not join and probably a far right group.
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« Reply #6042 on: May 21, 2019, 07:10:21 PM »
As for the Euro election proper, basically no one cares. There will be a couple televised debates this week for a limp spike in interest but only 40% of registered voters are expected to vote. Apparently it's much of the same everywhere else, it's not uncommon to have 30 or 40 lists running in your country of residence (Italy has only 20 or so though).

Apparently there was a debate in Brussels with 4 or 6 of leading figures for their respective movements at the European level and some of the nationalist far right euroskeptics has a big get together to convince everyone they'll be able to coordinate.

Basically the big picture outcome is that the PPE / PSOE will lose their tight grip on the Europarliament and we should be headed for a four blocks divide : PPE, PSOE, the liberal (in the Euro sense of free markets and personal freedoms) ALDE which Macron's party may or may not join and probably a far right group.
In the Netherlands the deputy secretary justice has just resigned following the misreporting of crime statistics.
The department of justice listed some very serious crimes (murder, rape etc.) commited in asylum centers as 'other'. Instead of their respective columns of serious felonies.
Misleading parliament and the public about the real crime figures. He says that it wasn't done on purpose but he has resigned because he is ultimately responsible for reporting those statistics.

Tommorow Thierry Baudet(challenger) will debate our sitting prime minister Mark Rutte although they both play no part in the EU elections aside from leading their respective parties.
Our government is getting more unpopular and is running on fumes. But with parties still busy hammering out their strategies it doesn't seem like anyone is in any rush to trigger parliamentary elections at this time.

As for EU elections it is likely that the EPP guy (Manfred(?)) will become the new commisioner when the dust has settled. No one wants Timmermans and no one likes Guy Verhofstadt.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6043 on: May 22, 2019, 02:29:24 AM »
I wonder, at what point did everyone here realize that the USA is a rogue nation?
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« Reply #6044 on: May 22, 2019, 05:16:36 AM »
I wonder, at what point did everyone here realize that the USA is a rogue nation?

 ???
Between 1946 and 1966 I guess, like everyone else ?
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« Reply #6045 on: May 22, 2019, 06:53:21 AM »
I wonder, at what point did everyone here realize that the USA is a rogue nation?

 ???
Between 1946 and 1966 I guess, like everyone else ?

i wasn't even born then!

My first thought was:


But that's not really true since we didn't know it was all lies until later.

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« Reply #6046 on: May 22, 2019, 09:11:02 AM »
I wonder, at what point did everyone here realize that the USA is a rogue nation?

When they refused to pay their taxes like the stamp act required them to. :pacspit

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« Reply #6047 on: May 22, 2019, 12:12:51 PM »
I wonder, at what point did everyone here realize that the USA is a rogue nation?
it's a state breh

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« Reply #6048 on: May 22, 2019, 12:31:58 PM »
UK: We will shoot ourselves in the dick. It is the only thing that we can do better than everyone else now that our country is in the gutter"
US: "WOOO!! *BANG BANG* USA NUMBER 1 SELF DICK SHOOTER! WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE DICK SO HARD IT'LL MAKE YOUR HEAD SPIN!"

Margaret Thatcher
Ronald Reagan

Theresa May
Donald Trump

history doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes

and at the end of Trump's second term Russia will face another leadership crisis just as it did when Reagan left office.

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6049 on: May 22, 2019, 12:52:07 PM »
I wonder, at what point did everyone here realize that the USA is a rogue nation?
Unlike Vom and jorma, this question is a lot more significant to Americans because we really do live under a national cloak of amnesiac patriotism. For me because I'm young and Obama was ok, it was just these last couple of years under Trump where everything is going wrong and I had to swallow several times that I just live in a bad country. Not a reckless or mistaken one, but a bad one.

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« Reply #6050 on: May 22, 2019, 12:58:14 PM »
I wonder, at what point did everyone here realize that the USA is a rogue nation?
Unlike Vom and jorma, this question is a lot more significant to Americans because we really do live under a national cloak of amnesiac patriotism. For me because I'm young and Obama was ok, it was just these last couple of years under Trump where everything is going wrong and I had to swallow several times that I just live in a bad country. Not a reckless or mistaken one, but a bad one.

I don't think many Europeans see Trump as this huge threat where  everything has gone wrong.
We have seen this song and dance before. Trump is kinda hilarious in his personal incompetence and buffoonery, but as far as foreign policy is concerned he is just keeping the status quo alive. Obama could make you feel really good when he was giving a speech though. :yeshrug

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« Reply #6051 on: May 22, 2019, 03:28:57 PM »
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1131273132852109313

Meanwhile the Brexit party is polling at 37% for the EU elections with Labour and the Conservatives below 20%.

However the Night King is trapped
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1131272279025954816

Another coup against May, that makes it exactly 31 attempts by the tories to get rid of their own PM
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1131256802396561412

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« Reply #6052 on: May 22, 2019, 04:08:12 PM »
that's because you guys are ready to take the reins :lol
Not when Brussels keeps picking guys like this to run things

https://twitter.com/lukemcgee/status/1131260148834537472
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« Reply #6053 on: May 22, 2019, 04:53:13 PM »
I wonder, at what point did everyone here realize that the USA is a rogue nation?

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Between 1946 and 1966 I guess, like everyone else ?

You are way older than I expected! Indeed, for those alive at the time (I wasn't), McCarthy and Vietnam should have been sufficient wakeup calls.

For me personally it was George W. Bush and Iraq. His "democratic" election also made me realize that American democracy is a sham.

On a related note, when did all those CIA-backed coups become public knowledge? Or was that stuff always known and you just had to care enough to find out?
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« Reply #6054 on: May 22, 2019, 05:24:34 PM »
Thanks. Yeah, I know most of this by now, but presumably it's not general knowledge, especially not among Americans. It's quite amazing how virtually every single US President since 1945 is responsible for some heinous interventionist shit around the globe.
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« Reply #6055 on: May 22, 2019, 05:50:45 PM »
I wonder, at what point did everyone here realize that the USA is a rogue nation?

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Between 1946 and 1966 I guess, like everyone else ?

You are way older than I expected! Indeed, for those alive at the time (I wasn't), McCarthy and Vietnam should have been sufficient wakeup calls.

For me personally it was George W. Bush and Iraq. His "democratic" election also made me realize that American democracy is a sham.

On a related note, when did all those CIA-backed coups become public knowledge? Or was that stuff always known and you just had to care enough to find out?

I'm not that old (obviously) but a latent suspicion towards America permeates my country and I would expect most of Europe since then, hence the joke (takes one to know one and all that). Though I guess the term would be "Imperial" rather than "rogue".
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« Reply #6057 on: May 22, 2019, 11:52:11 PM »
It's quite amazing how virtually every single US President since 1945 is responsible for some heinous interventionist shit around the globe.
Is it though?

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« Reply #6058 on: May 23, 2019, 12:13:18 AM »
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« Reply #6059 on: May 23, 2019, 03:38:40 AM »
So those muppets want to remove those words from the Royal Coat of Arms?

Isn't that treason :thinking