International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster

[Tiops]

or maybe his supporters like the racism/homophobia/sexism/"let's shoot pt supporters!"

And making everything a simple situation like that is why we have Trump and Bolsonaro.

[Tiops]

What are his proposals to "fix the main issues"? I'd like to hear your outsider-insider version first before I consult the lamestream media. Or Glenn Greenwald who hates the guy.

There's no solid proposal. He's just not involved in any of the corruption scandals here, is promising to have liberal economy stances (his economy ministry is very good at least and doesn't have the stupid/insane ideas that Bolsonaro have) and has firm stances agains criminality. Then you'll have people that likes his overly conservative stances voting for him and people that aknowledges he's all those bad things but is turning a blind eye to that due to him being the only right wing/economic liberal candidate with chances to win.

And just to clarify, I'm not voting for him (at least not in the first phase. I'll gladly vote for him in the second phase if he's running against Lula's puppet).

[Nabbis]

Do they plan on returning that money to Libya once this shit settles? 

[curly]

or maybe his supporters like the racism/homophobia/sexism/"let's shoot pt supporters!"

And making everything a simple situation like that is why we have Trump and Bolsonaro.

Trump led with Mexicans are rapists, my dude. It takes some really tortured logic not to see that the racism is a plus for his base.

[Assimilate]

What are his proposals to "fix the main issues"? I'd like to hear your outsider-insider version first before I consult the lamestream media. Or Glenn Greenwald who hates the guy.

There's no solid proposal. He's just not involved in any of the corruption scandals here, is promising to have liberal economy stances (his economy ministry is very good at least and doesn't have the stupid/insane ideas that Bolsonaro have) and has firm stances agains criminality. Then you'll have people that likes his overly conservative stances voting for him and people that aknowledges he's all those bad things but is turning a blind eye to that due to him being the only right wing/economic liberal candidate with chances to win.

And just to clarify, I'm not voting for him (at least not in the first phase. I'll gladly vote for him in the second phase if he's running against Lula's puppet).

Exactly my dude. I'm with you.

or maybe his supporters like the racism/homophobia/sexism/"let's shoot pt supporters!"

And making everything a simple situation like that is why we have Trump and Bolsonaro.

Trump led with Mexicans are rapists, my dude. It takes some really tortured logic not to see that the racism is a plus for his base.

curly don't be a fucking moron. You can't win an election with only crazies. Trump didn't win just with racists bigots.

Bolsonaro will win because people are sick and tired of corruption, sick and tired of the immense violence. All that other dumb shit about LGBTQ and whatever else is to rally his base enough to support him, and then he takes a more moderate stance like he's already doing. There's 3 main issues: Violence/Crime, Corruption, and Economy.

Everything else at this moment is trivial. Putting another left wing socialist cunt in power is the worst thing that could happen to this country and so voting for someone like Bolsonaro might be the only option- this is why he has the support of virtually all educated males in the country.

[Nintex]

Old, but I only learned of this recently:

"At the beginning of the Lybian conflict, authorities discovered and seized roughly $67 billion of Gaddafi's wealth hidden in bank accounts around the globe. England, France, Italy and Germany seized another $30 billion and the Obama administration found a staggering $37 billion in the United States. Investigators suspect that Gaddafi hid an additional $30 billion around the world."

fucking murder people so you can steal their money, brehs

They murdered Gadaffi to get elected (Sarkozy and Clinton did). Sid Blumenthal was frothing at the mouth at the thought of being her secretary of state after he made her 'own' Libya.

It basically went like this:
- The Europeans led by Sarkozy wanted to attack Gadaffi because oil, him trying to create a new African currency backed by his vast gold reserves and reasons
- The Europeans didn't have the firepower to sustain a bombing campaign for more than 2 days.
- Obama was opposed to acting in Libya as he feared another Iraq or worse, Afghanistan
- Sid Blumenthal told Clinton it was a great idea to tie her wagon to the Libyan cause. After all it would improve Obama's poll numbers and her stature
- Clinton convinced Obama into taking action in Libya. Military assured Obama it would be an easy victory
- Watered down UN resolution condemning Gadaffi and calling for a no fly zone passes with Russian and Chinese support
- US and EU (basically NATO) used the ambigious UN resolution to bomb Libya
- Russia protests
- Gadaffi flees, is spotted by NATO and bombed
- Rebels catch up with his bombed convoy and rape him on live TV and then murder him and throw him in a ditch
- "We came we saw he died" - Hillary Rodham Clinton

Also the western powers armed the 'popular uprising' much like they would in Syria.

[Rufus]

I'm starting to believe he gets all his news from Twitter dweebs.

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[Tiops]

I'm starting to believe that Filler's likes are not done in good faith

Are you insinuating that my posts aren't of the highest quality? Because I assumed filler likes meant that.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/JoN_TM/status/1038696064537309184

The car of the Moldovan president has been **accidentally** hit by a Kamaz truck

President is hospitalized

[FatRiker]

The car of the Moldovan president has been **accidentally** hit by a Kamaz truck

President is hospitalized

What did he do to piss off Putin?

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/Nordic_News/status/1038865889024716801

Good thing they mention that the results are not in danger.

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That would be a shame
 

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[sinxtanx]

sweden predominantly uses paper votes counted by hand

hack that with a computer

[Nintex]

sweden predominantly uses paper votes counted by hand

hack that with a computer

But that's the sort of election rigging he got to practice for years.

[benjipwns]

Riksdag with the two alliances and the Swedish Democrats (yellow) in the middle:


Swedish Democrats: +13 seats (+4.7 points)
Centre: +9 (+2.3)
Left: +7 (+2.2)
Christian Democrats: +7 (+1.8)

Green Party: -10 (-2.6)
Social Democrats: -12 (-2.6)
Moderates: -13 (-3.5)

The two alliances:
The Alliance (Right leaners): +2 seats (+0.9 points)
Red-Greens (Left leaners): -15 seats (-2.9 points)

So, should be pretty fun...

[Nintex]

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1039624412457250816

 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/Europarl_EN/status/1039902067513597955

This looks fucking depressing and creepy.
The EU government in Brussels is basically ResetEra in parliamentary form now.
They don't show up to vote and they REEEEE all day.



Today, apart from giving Juncker rhetorical blowjobs they could vent at Viktor Orban who was the main attraction.
As the entire parliament had a chance to vote on a motion to PUNISH Hungary for not doing what the crazy REEEEing Greens want.
The woman who filed the motion cried when it was adopted and someone filmed it with a fucking iPad.


https://twitter.com/lukeming/status/1039570616746168321

[Mandark]

nintex butthurt

[Nintex]

I'm especially pissed at the EU boomers today for approving this shit
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17849868/eu-internet-copyright-reform-article-11-13-approved

Which is the fucking worst idea ever.



What sort of dystopian USSR hell is this. 

[Brehvolution]

Good job we didn’t come up against an individual such as Orban.

Good jon.

[Rufus]

I'm especially pissed at the EU boomers today for approving this shit
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17849868/eu-internet-copyright-reform-article-11-13-approved

Which is the fucking worst idea ever.

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What sort of dystopian USSR hell is this. 

When venal olds preside over new technologies.

[Mollys Fruity Loops]

I'm especially pissed at the EU boomers today for approving this shit
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17849868/eu-internet-copyright-reform-article-11-13-approved

Which is the fucking worst idea ever.

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What sort of dystopian USSR hell is this. 

Wow!

These people are not clueless - they know what they are doing.



Axel Voss - what a twat.

How anyone can be pro EU after this?

[Rufus]

By not being a petulant child about its downsides.

[Atramental]

lol no more memes for europe. 

[TVC15]

Lol and Europeans were all high and mighty about how great GDPR was just a few months ago. I hope they enjoy their neutered internet.

Now I guess I have to stay in the US because I need real internet. I guess I can move to a non-EU country. Like Thailand.

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[Mollys Fruity Loops]

By not being a petulant child about its downsides.

Censoring online communication is a pretty BIG downside.

[Nintex]

Of course it was a german who killed the internet. 

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[recursivelyenumerable]

Thank god, memes are the worst. All reputable forums have already banned memes anyway tho

[benjipwns]

I'm especially pissed at the EU boomers today for approving this shit
https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17849868/eu-internet-copyright-reform-article-11-13-approved

Which is the fucking worst idea ever.

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What sort of dystopian USSR hell is this. 

Wow!

These people are not clueless - they know what they are doing.



Axel Voss - what a twat.

How anyone can be pro EU after this?

I mean, if the type of memes the continent is posting are captioned with dialogue from the worst Lucas Star Wars film...maybe reasonable restrictions on meme usage and ownership should be considered.

[benjipwns]

The woman who filed the motion cried when it was adopted and someone filmed it with a fucking iPad.

this kinda thing makes me laugh though, i approve of more Nintex content like this

[Atramental]

 

[Assimilate]

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why hasn't this been converted into a bore emoji yet?

[Mollys Fruity Loops]

Thank god, memes are the worst. All reputable forums have already banned memes anyway tho

Yay censorship! 







The link tax is downright insane.

It's a calculated attempt by corrupt corporate lobbyists to suppress information, under the guise of copyright laws.

[Nintex]

The two word rule is fucking dumb as well.

notax

taxes apply

I will just remove all the spaces motherfuckers

 

[Mollys Fruity Loops]

The two word rule is fucking dumb as well.

notax

taxes apply

I will just remove all the spaces motherfuckers

 

Not dumb if the idea is to stifle the spread of information that goes against the status quo.

I wonder how these people will be voting in the future?

[curly]

hmmm at first it sounded like a bad idea but after the last page I'm coming around

[curly]

https://twitter.com/DavorKunc/status/1040962515742666753

[Mandark]

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[curly]

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one can hope

[Assimilate]

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that's brutal

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one can hope

 

why?

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1043517351491252229

Things are heating up in the Middle East again.

[benjipwns]

Klassiskt liberala partiet ("The Classical Liberal Party") increased its number of votes for the fourth straight Swedish general election! A 25% increase over 2014! At this rate they'll be the largest party in Sweden when the Romulan War breaks out!

But in news weirdos care about:

The Sweden Democrats have stated they will vote for the candidate from the centre-right alliance bloc in Monday’s vote to confirm the new speaker of parliament.
The announcement means that Andreas Norlén of the Moderate party is expected to be chosen as parliamentary speaker.

“Of the two nominated candidates from the Social Democrats and Moderates, we have made the active choice to vote for the Moderate candidate. We believe the Moderates are the party best-placed to lead a government in any constellation, given the parliamentary situation,” Sweden Democrat (SD) leader Jimmie Åkesson said in a statement.

The SD leader said that attempts had been made “as far as possible in this situation” to follow the tradition of giving the speaker’s position to the largest party in government.

Usually, the speaker is a member of Sweden's largest political party or bloc, meaning that after the September 9th election, a Social Democrat candidate would have been expected.

The role is a key one, as it is the speaker who puts a proposal for the new prime minister to parliament.

Apparently the Social Democrats and The Alliance (right coalition) have discussed an Alliance minority with SocDem support in exchange for unspecific concessions. If only to try and head off the Swedish Democrats from doing more of this.

Disclaimer: I have past instances of misreading thelocal.se articles correctly.

[benjipwns]

In Assi's backyard, Bolsonaro's first round numbers have shot up since getting stabbed, so...keep that in mind if you ever want to run for President of Brazil.

On the other hand, so have Haddad's (Worker's Party...Lula/Dilma) so everybody wins!

[Assimilate]

In Assi's backyard, Bolsonaro's first round numbers have shot up since getting stabbed, so...keep that in mind if you ever want to run for President of Brazil.

On the other hand, so have Haddad's (Worker's Party...Lula/Dilma) so everybody wins!

The best thing this country could do would be to vote for Alkmin, but since this country is filled with idiots that won't happen. So, the next best thing to do to avoid a total shit show would be to stay somewhat moderate and vote for Ciro, which is probably what i should do for the sake of better odds.

But this is Brazil. This is going to get ugly and so we will have Bolsonoaro and Haddad in the second round for sure.

[benjipwns]

From the head-to-head polling there is a suggestion that nobody truly likes the idea of Haddad and Bolsonaro as their two choices, they'd prefer someone else be the other candidate or both, but they aren't decided enough on who to advance that other candidate to the second round. Almost as if for lots of voters who do like Haddad or Bolsonaro but would never even consider the other, their second choices are generally Gomes/Alckmin/Silva to where those candidates could plausibly win the second round but they aren't ever going to get there.

The French may claim to have some tips for dealing with this but don't trust em!

[Nintex]

Seems like Africa has made a mistake.
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1043851224293036032

[Assimilate]

From the head-to-head polling there is a suggestion that nobody truly likes the idea of Haddad and Bolsonaro as their two choices, they'd prefer someone else be the other candidate or both, but they aren't decided enough on who to advance that other candidate to the second round. Almost as if for lots of voters who do like Haddad or Bolsonaro but would never even consider the other, their second choices are generally Gomes/Alckmin/Silva to where those candidates could plausibly win the second round but they aren't ever going to get there.

Yup.

And if it comes down to Haddad or Bolsonaro i'm going for Bolsonaro.

[Cerveza mas fina]

No Brexiter ever has ever explained how there can be no border in Ireland.

If the whole point of Brexit is to have borders again, then how can they keep saying 6 months before the exit they still believe there wont be a border.

Its fucking disgusting and mental and I can't believe they don't get called out on it even more.

[Raist]

Expect brits to make sense brehs.

[VomKriege]

Manuel Valls, former socialist prime minister of France, current member of French parliament... Is apparently planning to run for mayorship in Barcelona (yes that one in Catalunya). I couldn't presume to be an expert on Spanish politics, but as far as I know he doesn't have a strong political network there and he's already caught some verbal flak (by Puigdemont : "He's legally entitled to be candidate but he doesn't know the city. He knows France. To judge the man, just listen to what French citizens think of him", to paraphrase. As you would guess, Valls isn't terribly popular here). He was born there and I guess he has personal history with the city but it's hard to imagine he has any chance and it feels a bit arrogant to insert one self like this... Valls has never insulted his heritage, quite the contrary, but he's also always have been pretty aggressively French, in that tone of France being the vanguard for universalism and the Rights of Men, revolutionary prototypes for citizens of the world, secularism and national security.

I don't know what to think of it. Could be the height of hubris, could be exemplary Europeanism, probably both. Maybe he figures he has a chance because of the agitated situation (the recent autonomist crisis is out of the spotlight and on the backburner without having been really closed).

[Nintex]

No Brexiter ever has ever explained how there can be no border in Ireland.

If the whole point of Brexit is to have borders again, then how can they keep saying 6 months before the exit they still believe there wont be a border.

Its fucking disgusting and mental and I can't believe they don't get called out on it even more.

Don't worry Bojo will explain everything in a column that offends everybody.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Who is buying into bojo reese mogg etc? Hard to imagine

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[Nintex]

The Russians are carving up Ukraine in their state sponsored talk shows.
It seems like they want to annex certain provinces and leave a rump state for Poroshenko and friends.



"elections" are scheduled in the separatist republic for November 11th.
The party congress of the communists was blown up today. 
https://twitter.com/SputnikInt/status/1046029631957217282

Another 'candidate' had his TV stations turned off and his wife is missing
https://twitter.com/Hromadske/status/1045997522836172800