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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6060 on: May 23, 2019, 04:42:11 AM »
Did he say this in English? It contradicts itself: If you know HOW to do things, you succeed at doing them. If you don't, you fail.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6061 on: May 23, 2019, 05:18:06 AM »
That's probably awkward phrasing from a non-native speaker. May is a hard-worker (thus "she's tough") but her efforts didn't met much success, probably because "MPs [are] prioritising the prime minister’s removal over finding agreement on a Brexit deal".
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6062 on: May 23, 2019, 06:55:27 AM »
So... Huawei apparently barred from using licenced Google apps (including the Store) and ARM chips. The Trump administration is really going for the jugular huh.
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« Reply #6063 on: May 23, 2019, 07:34:10 AM »
Couldn't they just start using Lineage OS? After all, Android is open source. Of course customers would then need to install Google's store/apps manually. If on the other hand they start selling their phones with some sort of proprietary OS, sales outside of China are dead.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6064 on: May 23, 2019, 08:05:10 AM »
Couldn't they just start using Lineage OS? After all, Android is open source. Of course customers would then need to install Google's store/apps manually. If of the other hand they start selling their phones with some sort of proprietary OS, sales outside of China are dead.

I'm no tech specialist but AFAIK it's gonna be a major impediment to have Google Apps, even if downloaded separately, or so it seems. The major one being the App Store which is a gateway for anything else. Android has an open source version but obviously not the latest / without the latest security updates.

ARM is the base for almost all smartphones.

Anyway I'm pretty surprised at just how open an effort it is to cripple Huawei. It's evolving past the point of "just" tariffs and grandstanding into economic measures that could spiral into a nasty political crisis.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6065 on: May 23, 2019, 08:30:35 AM »
Android doesn't require ARM, my previous tablet had an x86 CPU (Intel Atom).
All modern apps run on both architectures.

Edit: I'm not disagreeing with you by the way, this will absolutely cripple Huawei. It's quite shocking how the US President is able to implement such measures like a dictator.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6066 on: May 23, 2019, 08:45:53 AM »
Yes, Android is open source. Companies buy the license anyway because it's a pain of the ass to wait for the public release when you can have the private version much earlier to change and add features that fits your vision for the platform you are creating.


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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6067 on: May 23, 2019, 08:47:56 AM »
https://twitter.com/SimonOstrovsky/status/1129789890282053638
https://twitter.com/SimonOstrovsky/status/1129800568904540160

Did any other U.S. administration in recent memory let so many of their cabinet members or surrogates were allowed to go 'rouge' so often?

Hell, any administration from any country in general.

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6068 on: May 23, 2019, 09:01:57 AM »
The DGSI (French counter intelligence) apparently "invited" 8 journalists from newspaper Le Monde to have a "freeform hearing" about their coverage of the Benalla scandal or franch armements used in Yemen.

Much liberalism, such novelty wow thanks Macron.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6069 on: May 23, 2019, 10:45:25 AM »
Did he say this in English? It contradicts itself: If you know HOW to do things, you succeed at doing them. If you don't, you fail.

It sounds like he's saying that she knows how to get things done, but she can't because she's surrounded by fuck-ups.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6070 on: May 23, 2019, 01:25:08 PM »
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"The U.S. must be willing to intervene in Venezuela the way we did in Grenada," Graham wrote in the Wall Street Journal.
Someone tell Lindsey that blue balls are a myth!

Is Graham volunteering for front line duty?
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6071 on: May 23, 2019, 02:11:20 PM »
That's what you get Yurop for not giving the UK points at Eurovision  :hmph

Meanwhile in the Netherlands
[https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1131528232841486336
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6072 on: May 23, 2019, 03:53:33 PM »
Exit polls show the Social Democrats winning for the first time in years. Because people voted for the 'Spitzenkandidat' at the expense of other pro-European parties.

We've dubbed it: "The Frans Timmermans Effect"



VVD(our PM's party) ends in second place.
FvD a shared 3rd or 4th place with the Christian Democrats.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6073 on: May 23, 2019, 05:41:41 PM »
German voters will get a chance to elect Hess, Goebbels, Goering, Eichmann etc. on Sunday:



https://sputniknews.com/europe/201905221075226500-die-partei-germany-nazis/
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6074 on: May 23, 2019, 05:43:36 PM »
I voted for the 50+ party

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VomKriege

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6075 on: May 24, 2019, 05:43:12 AM »
May to step down... But not immediately. It's a whole matriochka of exits !
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6076 on: May 24, 2019, 06:09:39 AM »
Aww. Lookit this poor mad old lady.




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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6077 on: May 24, 2019, 06:58:46 AM »
Boris' turn, now? :heh

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6078 on: May 24, 2019, 07:45:16 AM »
Boris's sex face this morning


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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6079 on: May 24, 2019, 11:06:37 AM »
GG England, you had a nice run


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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6081 on: May 24, 2019, 11:18:47 AM »
Does Boris Johnson actually have a strong chance of being next PM or are people just kidding? I've seen it come up alot since May's announcment.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6082 on: May 24, 2019, 11:58:34 AM »
Yes, apparently. He has the backing of a good chunk of the party although not any of the "establishment" really, and more importantly (this is partly why May became PM) there are not a huge number of competitors willing to get in. Labour has essentially the same thing going on. It's a period of no glamour in being PM.

Last thing I saw is that Boris has a good shot if the number of ballots is low, but if it's a long race he'll have to endorse someone else to break a deadlock.

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6083 on: May 24, 2019, 12:06:25 PM »
I guess it's also the best (only, really) time to ride in and "succeed" at Brexit.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6084 on: May 24, 2019, 01:09:44 PM »
Let the real Game of Thrones begin


And yes, Boris is the front runner

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6085 on: May 24, 2019, 02:04:57 PM »
RESIS

BisMarckie

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6086 on: May 24, 2019, 02:07:47 PM »
May was dealt a shitty hand by Cameron‘s stupid power play. I don’t know what her resignation will solve other than further mark the decline of Britain on the international stage.

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6087 on: May 24, 2019, 02:26:45 PM »

This poor lady visibly aged 10 years in 6 months and then had to leave in tears.

Tories don't play
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6088 on: May 24, 2019, 03:02:05 PM »
Does Boris Johnson actually have a strong chance of being next PM or are people just kidding? I've seen it come up alot since May's announcment.

He does have a strong chance. Mostly because he looks like an old labrador and is less of a pedo than the other Torys

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6089 on: May 25, 2019, 02:22:14 AM »
I just realized how this has all gone wrong.

They gave up the Tory Power Stance.


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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6091 on: May 26, 2019, 08:39:35 AM »
Voter's participation is slightly up compared to last Euro election in France at noon, so maybe we'll just end up in high rather than low 40%.

Democracy  :gbcry

Edit : Participation up by 8 points from last election at 17h (approx. 43%). Will we breach back the 50% line.

That's probably the only happy number to come out this evening from Baguette Town so...
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6092 on: May 26, 2019, 12:50:43 PM »
Voter's participation is slightly up compared to last Euro election in France at noon, so maybe we'll just end up in high rather than low 40%.

Democracy  :gbcry

Edit : Participation up by 8 points from last election at 17h (approx. 43%). Will we breach back the 50% line.

That's probably the only happy number to come out this evening from Baguette Town so...

The French left is in disarray. Voting strategically, I could only see the Greens as a viable, non-offensive option for me. :/

 

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6093 on: May 26, 2019, 01:38:11 PM »
Democracy  :gbcry
Here you go, mang:

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6094 on: May 26, 2019, 01:59:33 PM »


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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6095 on: May 26, 2019, 03:13:05 PM »
Voter's participation is slightly up compared to last Euro election in France at noon, so maybe we'll just end up in high rather than low 40%.

Democracy  :gbcry

Edit : Participation up by 8 points from last election at 17h (approx. 43%). Will we breach back the 50% line.

That's probably the only happy number to come out this evening from Baguette Town so...

The French left is in disarray.

You're, like, 20 years late bruv.

benjipwns

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6096 on: May 26, 2019, 03:19:10 PM »
The French left is in disarray.

You're, like, 200 years late bruv.
fixed?

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6097 on: May 26, 2019, 03:37:31 PM »
I think Donkey has been larping as a shit minister








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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6098 on: May 26, 2019, 03:37:41 PM »
The French Right got wrecked  :lol they were polling at 12-13% but only got 8. LFI did the same as the PS and they're pissed about it. Greens dis OK.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6100 on: May 26, 2019, 04:22:26 PM »
GREENSEFA is a terrible acronym

especially since it's only an acronym for one part just with GREENS in front of it :doge

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6101 on: May 26, 2019, 04:24:14 PM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6102 on: May 26, 2019, 04:41:47 PM »
Unironically calling a weakling and buffoon like Farage "alpha".
Dotard supporters really are mental bonsai trees, just like their fearless President Bonespur.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6103 on: May 26, 2019, 05:56:50 PM »

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6104 on: May 26, 2019, 05:57:49 PM »
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1132766376928661507

Lawl, Farage is going to tear the new EU Parliament a new asshole just before the UK crashes out under the the stable leadership of Michael Gove Boris Johsnon..
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« Reply #6106 on: May 26, 2019, 06:08:41 PM »
The far right party here got absolutely rekt. Went from 4 to 1 seat in the eu parliament. On top of that, the cross-party red/green people's movement against the EU, for the first time, has not gotten any seats at all.

I voted for the danish social liberal party, they went from one to two seats, because the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. It's a nice place to be. :boogie:

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6107 on: May 26, 2019, 06:26:02 PM »
(Image removed from quote.)

It's actually a direct reference to when Alexander II of Russia was hit in the face with a milkshake and died due to severe brain freeze.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6108 on: May 26, 2019, 06:37:50 PM »
Sargon did not get elected  :fbm
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6110 on: May 26, 2019, 10:33:17 PM »
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1132766376928661507

Lawl, Farage is going to tear the new EU Parliament a new asshole just before the UK crashes out under the the stable leadership of Michael Gove Boris Johsnon..

So individual countries actually do have huge influence on the EU?

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6111 on: May 27, 2019, 04:44:37 AM »
It's almost as if infantile fan-fiction and observable reality (which adults use as foundation of their outlook) are at odds.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6112 on: May 27, 2019, 06:51:52 AM »
Sargon did not get elected  :fbm

Voters are in general pretty clueless, especially in the UK, ESPECIALLY about EU elections, but they're not THAT distinguished mentally-challenged :lol

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6113 on: May 27, 2019, 07:08:46 AM »
So the general impression is "bad but less bad than possible" for the Euro election.

In France, while Le Pen party is leading, it actually did a little less in % than last time. And if the UK leaves the EU and their seats are indeed redistributed as planned, Macron's party will field as many MEP as them.

The whole Yellow Vest movement didn't really have any apparent and dramatic effect. The Yellow Alliance which was the only list explicitly catering to it, led by C-list singer and notorious goofball Francis Lalanne, only managed 0,6% of the vote.

The Greens once again do very well in Euros (16% in 2009 IIRC) but in the past it never really transferred well to domestic elections. But with the neverending agony of the Socialists, it's possible that they might have a chance at filling the vacuum at the prominent moderate left party.

It's hard to know what to make of Macron's list results. For a party with only a couple of years of existence under its belt, and within the pretty belligerent national mood of last 6 months... It's not exactly a defeat. His base has not eroded and he's by a wide margin the strongest "respectable" / non far right candidate.

The left really need to sort out a coalition of sorts (Green + Socialists + Hamon + Communists could work, they managed it in the past) because it's a consistent 20-25% bloc (30+% with FI) that get squandered away each time now.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6114 on: May 27, 2019, 09:49:49 AM »
I can understand 'politics is football' Ree methheads but journalists claiming assange should be procecuted for publishing national secrets are fucking A grade galaxy brains

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6115 on: May 27, 2019, 12:43:49 PM »
Making the headlines here today : four French citizens condemned to death in Irak for being part of ISIS.  Claims by at least one suspect of being beaten and apparently very speedy trials.

I mean... What did people think would happen by refusing to extradite them back to France ?
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6116 on: May 27, 2019, 01:12:56 PM »
Also 5 Stelle are really getting hustled all ways to sunday by Lega and Salvini who even won votes down south (when the Lega was until a few years ago a movement supporting the secession of Northern Italy from the so called Southern lazy bumfucks :mindblown ). Deal with the devil...
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« Reply #6117 on: May 27, 2019, 02:07:45 PM »
Just yesterday I watched a bit on Dutch television where they claimed the policies of the new Italian government had reduced illegal migration by 90%.
The budget proposed by 5-S and Lega at first not accepted by the Eurozone pretty much passed with only a few changes.

If Salvini continues to get these results he'll only get more popular.
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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6118 on: May 27, 2019, 06:12:21 PM »
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1133132018030661637

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With just two days left before the deadline to form a new government, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu put the onus on a last holdout of his potential coalition, his own former defense minister.

In a televised address Monday, Netanyahu decried his predicament as a “semantic, cosmetic” crisis created by Avigdor Lieberman, and the premier threatened a call to disperse parliament and trigger new elections. It would be the first time in Israel’s history that a winning candidate selected by the president to form a government has failed in the task.

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Two weeks ago, Netanyahu attempted to lock future coalition members into binding agreements that included a bill granting him retroactive legal immunity as long as he remains in office. The effort backfired, unleashing massive public opposition.

On Saturday night, more than 50,000 people demonstrated in Tel Aviv against his effort to gain immunity and other legislation that would allow the Knesset to override Supreme Court decisions.

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Netanyahu said he had been unable to convince Lieberman “to prevent an unnecessary, costly election” in the latest standoff between the two men. Lieberman’s resignation in November following a dispute over Israel’s policies toward Gaza had precipitated the 2019 elections.

Lieberman, leader of the secular nationalist Yisrael Beitenu party, is refusing to budge regarding a law on military service for ultra-Orthodox Jewish young men, who are currently exempt from Israel’s otherwise universal draft.

Jewish religious parties had demanded Netanyahu soften the bill before agreeing to enter his next coalition government.

So basically personal corruption (Netanyahu), and systemic corruption (Protection of Ultra Orthodox Jews from service in the military) causing Israel to not form a government.

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Re: International Politics Thread - The Hundred Years' Brexit
« Reply #6119 on: May 27, 2019, 07:14:01 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48417228

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The Brexit Party was the clear winner in the UK's European elections, while the pro-EU Lib Dems came second.

The Conservatives and Labour suffered heavy losses, with the former getting less than 10% of the vote.

Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage said he was ready to "take on" the main parties in a general election.


Oh Nigel. You sweet summer child. Have you forgotten that you've failed to even be elected to sit in the HoC for, like, 20 years? :lol


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