Author Topic: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster (Read 1686402 times)

Occam · « **Reply #12420 on:** November 01, 2022, 06:55:43 AM »

I had no idea they had that few cruise missiles. Crazy they started a war without a larger stockpile. They obviously did not expect global sanctions to hit them the way they did.

@Raist
Yeah, I found the same website looking for more realistic numbers.
This is a good summary of the information: https://www.outono.net/elentir/2022/10/26/russias-tank-losses-in-ukraine-some-data-from-2021-to-verify-hoy-serious-they-are/

And "Citing an open-source intelligence report from military experts, Lenta.ru reported that the Russian Army has in total 2685 main battle tanks in their active inventory." (2020)
https://defence-blog.com/revealed-number-of-main-battle-tanks-in-russia/

Of course as explained by outono.net Russia also has thousands more of outdated (50+ years old) tanks in storage, but most of those may not be functional and have little combat value.

Raist · « **Reply #12421 on:** November 01, 2022, 06:58:14 AM »

I mean. They expected to roll over Ukraine in under a week so...

They've been pulling ancient artifacts out of storage, I doubt that 2.8k figure took that into account.
Nevermind the exact number, those are absolutely catastrophic losses anyway and they won't recover for decades.

Occam · « **Reply #12422 on:** November 01, 2022, 07:07:14 AM »

Agreed. And it's not a matter of money. No amount of money can get them new materiel right now.

Nintex · « **Reply #12423 on:** November 01, 2022, 03:03:20 PM »

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1587482145488080901

Nintex · « **Reply #12424 on:** November 01, 2022, 06:59:10 PM »

Great interview with Boris about the war

Propagandhim · « **Reply #12425 on:** November 01, 2022, 07:47:28 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on November 01, 2022, 03:03:20 PM

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1587482145488080901

Who's Iran? Can't remember. Might need a little oil to jog the 'ol memory, I'm losing it these days.

Nintex · « **Reply #12426 on:** November 01, 2022, 08:04:23 PM »

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1587579213258887168

They've put up their flag of revenge, hang on to your butts.

It's a classic wag the dog thing.

Strikes on Saudi oil would really help the Russians too.

https://twitter.com/samkimasia/status/1587595208799047681

james · « **Reply #12427 on:** November 01, 2022, 11:29:21 PM »

Its a shame we cant help Saudia Arabia because oil is too expensive to run the ships and planes oh well

Nintex · « **Reply #12428 on:** November 02, 2022, 03:53:13 AM »

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1587712216798822400

Raist · « **Reply #12429 on:** November 02, 2022, 09:22:34 AM »

lelz.

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1587750829301317634

Bonus

https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1587144424097808384

Bonus

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1587429372465651712

Uncle · « **Reply #12430 on:** November 02, 2022, 02:01:54 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/02/china-bans-celebrities-lapsed-morals-endorsing-products

Nintex · « **Reply #12431 on:** November 02, 2022, 02:08:35 PM »

Bolsonaro isn't challenging the election but people just aren't happy the left put the corrupt communist in office again considering how things went last time.

https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1587859827417665548

james · « **Reply #12432 on:** November 02, 2022, 02:56:52 PM »

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1587733660597370881

who is ted danson? · « **Reply #12433 on:** November 02, 2022, 03:09:33 PM »

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Revealed: Migrant centre petrol bomber was Joker-obsessed, far-Right-supporting cannabis smoker, 66, who had battled bouts of mental illness 'since his son died after Covid jab and he lost his penis to cancer'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11379761/Migrant-centre-petrol-bomber-Joker-obsessed-far-Right-supporting-cannabis-smoker.html

Nintex · « **Reply #12434 on:** November 02, 2022, 03:16:58 PM »

https://twitter.com/Thereporter09/status/1587867813766651910

Nintex · « **Reply #12435 on:** November 02, 2022, 04:28:53 PM »

https://twitter.com/JamWaterhouse/status/1587762066823303172

Crazy to see that diplomacy has been outsourced to Erdogan of all people.

Uncle · « **Reply #12436 on:** November 02, 2022, 04:31:07 PM »

I'm sorry I cannot read Erdogan without picturing a little cartoon character named Ergo Dan

Potato · « **Reply #12437 on:** November 02, 2022, 04:39:43 PM »

Quote from: Uncle on November 02, 2022, 02:01:54 PM

(Image removed from quote.)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/02/china-bans-celebrities-lapsed-morals-endorsing-products

Not a dystopia at all.

Nintex · « **Reply #12438 on:** November 02, 2022, 07:00:12 PM »

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1587941482870226949

They're doing these daily now.

https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1587886595197526016

lmao

james · « **Reply #12439 on:** November 03, 2022, 12:44:02 AM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrUnfiltered/status/1587837423320449028

Potato · « **Reply #12440 on:** November 03, 2022, 02:10:57 AM »

It's Brazil...they're probably second generation Nazis

james · « **Reply #12441 on:** November 03, 2022, 11:04:09 AM »

Still laughing at Bolsonaro pretending to be a strong man for years and then folding like a little snowflake

Years of sucking up to the military and when we calls in the coup they say "nah we good with the 76 year old commie"

Occam · « **Reply #12442 on:** November 03, 2022, 11:14:15 AM »

Ukraine thanks Germany for Gepard and Iris

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1587738320477503489

and asks for Leopard tanks.

chronovore · « **Reply #12443 on:** November 04, 2022, 02:28:35 AM »

Quote from: who is ted danson? on October 30, 2022, 06:42:22 PM

Brazil went commie
CIA you know what to do

Lula was responsible for the flourishing of a middle class when he was last in office. Yes, corruption, I suspect any government will expose roaches and pillbugs when the carpet is pulled up.

Quote from: Occam on October 30, 2022, 07:43:19 PM

Very glad Brazil got rid of Bolsonaro.
"[Da Silva] won 50.83 percent of the votes, versus Mr. Bolsonaro’s 49.17 percent"
(NYT)

Amazing that despite everything so many people still voted for Bolsonaro, aka one of the biggest morons ever to be elected president of anything.
Wanna bet he's going to pull a Former Guy next and claim he was cheated?

Bolsonaro has already ceded victory, according to the News. Trump was still claiming victory even as the eviction squad showed up to fumigate the White House.

Occam · « **Reply #12444 on:** November 04, 2022, 02:48:01 AM »

Yes, surprising. After claiming for months there'd be fraud he decided not to go that way after all. Maybe Bolsonaro saw that there was no benefit in it; after all Trump did not get reinstated, he just further damaged US democracy. Bolsonaro probably thinks he has a better chance of making a comeback later on by not acting like a sore loser now.

Potato · « **Reply #12445 on:** November 04, 2022, 03:34:11 AM »

Or maybe the whole idea was a figment of the lefties' imagination?

Occam · « **Reply #12446 on:** November 04, 2022, 04:22:51 AM »

Come on now.

"Since his 2018 election victory, Bolsonaro has made baseless allegations of voter fraud in Brazil, which critics say could lay the groundwork to challenge upcoming elections in the same vein as his political idol, former U.S. President Donald Trump."
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazils-bolsonaro-says-he-wont-hand-over-presidency-if-there-is-vote-fraud-2021-07-01/

"Meanwhile, Bolsonaro has been pushing baseless lies about the integrity of the election for months, wrongly stating that voting machines in the country cannot be trusted to deliver a true outcome. On Sunday, after polling lower than da Silva in the election’s first round, Bolsonaro claimed without evidence that election administrators had rigged the outcome.

“They took sides. They have a candidate for president,” Bolsonaro said. “Or at least there’s one they don’t want, which is me.”"
https://truthout.org/articles/bolsonaro-pushes-brazenly-false-claims-of-election-fraud-after-first-round-loss/

Potato · « **Reply #12447 on:** November 04, 2022, 05:34:20 AM »

Yet his actions say otherwise. Until he disputes the result, the accusation is baseless.

Occam · « **Reply #12448 on:** November 04, 2022, 08:20:35 AM »

Are you kidding me?
I quoted his own words above. He has been spreading baseless lies about election fraud supposedly targeting him for several years, and did so again after the first round of the cuerrent presidential election, disputing its legitimacy. Those were his actions. The distribution of lies. He just decided to back down now, for whatever reason.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #12449 on:** November 04, 2022, 08:21:39 AM »

Making a prediction based on evidence of past history doesn't make it baseless or a figment of one's imagination just because the prediction turned out wrong.

Nintex · « **Reply #12450 on:** November 04, 2022, 01:29:09 PM »

Bolsonaro was never going to challenge the election outcome. He spend most of his presidency in a hospital bed.

His presidency had the intended outcome because after decades of one-party rule Bolsonaro turned a one-man show into a viable opposition party.
Lula has won the presidency but only has the support of a single region. He's boxed in and will have to make deals with others unlike during his previous terms.
The commie grandpa act while taking bribes from oil and construction companies isn't going to work this time.

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #12451 on:** November 04, 2022, 01:31:11 PM »

In more heartwarming news, Netanyahu is back (soon) baby

james · « **Reply #12452 on:** November 04, 2022, 01:35:14 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on November 04, 2022, 01:29:09 PM

His presidency had the intended outcome because after decades of one-party rule

Nintex, your account is more amusing when you dont lie.

1985-1989 - MDB
1989-1995 - AGIR
1994-2002 - PSDB
2002-2016 - PT
2016-2018 - MDB
2018-2022 - PL

Calling Brazil one party rule when theres like 100 parties flipping and flopping constantly is peek idiocy

Nintex · « **Reply #12453 on:** November 04, 2022, 01:50:22 PM »

This is a great documentary on the subject

Lula simply struck a deal with the people already in control and that would come back to haunt him when the anime betrayal happened.
After Bolso was elected he did not 'join' the existing parties as a puppet of the existing elite like everyone (including this documentary maker) expected but instead started his own party.

Quote from: Pissy F Benny on November 04, 2022, 01:31:11 PM

In more heartwarming news, Netanyahu is back (soon) baby

https://twitter.com/JoeTruzman/status/1588342772876316672

Occam · « **Reply #12454 on:** November 05, 2022, 01:50:53 PM »

Occam · « **Reply #12455 on:** November 05, 2022, 05:00:50 PM »

Here's an interesting article on why right wing election fraud lies did not succed in Brazil:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/05/world/americas/brazil-election-us-democracy.html

A Brazilian supreme court judge led an aggressive campaign against misinformation, and it worked.
Unless modern clown-show "conservatives" are allowed to lie with impunity, they can not win elections.

Nintex · « **Reply #12456 on:** November 06, 2022, 08:15:03 AM »

https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1589180389058555904

How to evacuate a city of 3 million?

Potato · « **Reply #12457 on:** November 06, 2022, 01:23:29 PM »

If it was the Russians, you know they would probably just send them to the front.

Nintex · « **Reply #12458 on:** November 06, 2022, 05:54:10 PM »

https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1589377623083229184

Nintex · « **Reply #12459 on:** November 07, 2022, 01:25:53 PM »

Sunak rushed out of a climate conference

Sman · « **Reply #12460 on:** November 07, 2022, 03:51:45 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on November 07, 2022, 01:25:53 PM

Sunak rushed out of a climate conference

Related to another Suella Braverman gaffe no doubt.

Uncle · « **Reply #12461 on:** November 08, 2022, 08:14:01 PM »

https://japantoday.com/category/national/Japanese-gov%27t-seeking-power-to-turn-down-private-home-air-conditioners-remotely-report-says

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TOKYO
For a large part of the year, the weather in Japan is far from comfortable. Winters are cold, and summers are hot and humid.

Those seasons could become even less comfortable, though, if a new plan from the Japanese government goes through. As reported by Japan’s Nihon Keizai Shimbun, in a meeting on Nov 2, the Energy Conservation Subcommittee of the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry resolved to begin working group discussions with the aim of gaining the ability to remotely turn down privately owned air conditioner/heater units. The goal would be to decrease energy usage during expected power shortages, which the committee feels are a growing concern as Japan attempts to shift towards renewable energy sources such as solar power, where the amount generated can be affected by day-to-day climate, making it difficult to stabilize the amount of total power available. The ministry says that AC unit usage accounts for roughly 30 percent of household electricity consumption in Japan.

From a technical standpoint, the plan wouldn’t be particularly difficult to implement. Japanese air conditioner units have long had remote controls, so external inputs aren’t a problem, and many models now allow the owner to turn the system on and off or adjust temperature settings through the internet. By asking manufacturers to extend such access to government regulatory organizations, and granting those organizations override functions over other inputs, the plan could easily be put into practice for internet-connected AC units, and water heaters are another home appliance the committee is looking to gain the ability to throttle back.

Winning over the minds of the public, though, isn’t likely to be as easy, as Twitter reactions to the news attest to.

“Creepy.”

“Are they crazy?”

“Playing God.”

“That’s the sort of idea you’d only come up with if you aren’t right in the head.”

“I’m glad the AC unit I just bought isn’t internet-connected.”

“Another great government idea.”

“Hey, government, isn’t it your job to make sure the power grid can support us?”

“So they’ll stop doing this when people start dying, right?”

The last comment might sound like hyperbole, but heatstroke deaths aren’t uncommon in Japan, with a heat wave a while back killing 79 people in Tokyo alone. According to Nihon Keizai Shimbun, the committee is currently working under the concept that the government would only be able to turn down AC units if their individual owners have agreed, in advance, to grant that authority.

benjipwns · « **Reply #12462 on:** November 08, 2022, 09:08:12 PM »

Quote from: Uncle on November 08, 2022, 08:14:01 PM

https://japantoday.com/category/national/Japanese-gov%27t-seeking-power-to-turn-down-private-home-air-conditioners-remotely-report-says

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According to Nihon Keizai Shimbun, the committee is currently working under the concept that the government would only be able to turn down AC units if their individual owners have agreed, in advance, to grant that authority.

Those are the citizens we can trust, it's the others who we clearly need the power over.

Occam · « **Reply #12463 on:** November 08, 2022, 09:36:59 PM »

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Ukrainian and Western officials say Russia’s stocks of precision-guided missiles and drones have run low, prompting it to turn to Iran. A spokesman for the Ukrainian Air Force said on Monday that Moscow and Tehran had finalized an agreement to deliver Iranian Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar ballistic missiles to Russia
[...]
Maj. Gen. Kyrylo Budanov, head of Ukraine’s defense intelligence directorate, has said delivery of Iranian missiles could happen by the end of November. “It’s a serious threat because Iranian missiles, unlike Russian ones, are quite high-precision, very high-speed, and those features have been battle-proven,”
[...]
Ukraine has been asking Western countries for systems that can shoot down ballistic missiles, which travel at several times the speed of sound, making them much harder to hit in flight than cruise missiles or slow-moving drones. General Budanov referred to the possibility of weapons that could strike missile launch sites, but the United States and others have been reluctant to give Ukraine the means to hit targets inside Russia, which the Kremlin has warned would be a dangerous escalation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/08/world/europe/ukraine-russia-iran-missiles.html

Good thing that Russia buying Iranian ballistic missiles is not a dangerous escalation.

BrokenVerses · « **Reply #12464 on:** November 09, 2022, 11:22:34 AM »

Russia announced they are abandoning Kherson and retreating across the river today.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-orders-pullout-west-bank-dnipro-kherson-2022-11-09/

james · « **Reply #12465 on:** November 09, 2022, 11:46:08 AM »

Quote from: BrokenVerses on November 09, 2022, 11:22:34 AM

Russia announced they are abandoning Kherson and retreating across the river today.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-orders-pullout-west-bank-dnipro-kherson-2022-11-09/

The Democrat wave extended around the world

Nintex · « **Reply #12466 on:** November 09, 2022, 01:10:32 PM »

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1590368333727424512

2022 the year of fucking around and finding out.

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1590333315034525697

Sman · « **Reply #12467 on:** November 09, 2022, 03:00:52 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on November 09, 2022, 01:10:32 PM

2022 the year of fucking around and finding out.

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1590333315034525697

He died in a car accident... when his car drove through a window on top of a 20-story building.

Nintex · « **Reply #12468 on:** November 09, 2022, 07:20:19 PM »

I've seen pictures of the car. If that was an accident he had a collision with a ballistic missile.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1590386047070130176

Nintex · « **Reply #12469 on:** November 10, 2022, 07:02:08 PM »

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1590851151679074306
Russian TV presenter explains to his audience why both positions for supporting/opposing the withdrawal from Kherson can result in a prison sentence.

https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1590818260504973313
The withdrawal is not going well. Apparently Russia tried to reach some sort of agreement with the US about their troops leaving the area but Ukraine is like 'fuck that' and started moving in on the Russians and since most bridges and crossings are destroyed a significant number of Russian troops are stuck.

Sman · « **Reply #12470 on:** November 11, 2022, 12:02:41 AM »

What does Darth Sidious have to say about it?

https://m.

Nintex · « **Reply #12471 on:** November 11, 2022, 02:39:21 AM »

The last order given to paratroopers:
"Put on civilian clothing and fucking run in any direction you want."

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1590450308119158786