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« Reply #32460 on: April 16, 2019, 03:49:55 PM »
Predictit.org

It’s a research site  :snob :science

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« Reply #32461 on: April 16, 2019, 03:50:35 PM »
Thank you sir.

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« Reply #32463 on: April 16, 2019, 03:55:32 PM »
yeah Biblical like the plagues

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« Reply #32466 on: April 16, 2019, 04:19:13 PM »
just like giant dad porn is #1 with conservatives, fox viewers secretly crave the left

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« Reply #32467 on: April 16, 2019, 05:53:02 PM »
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1117533736608788480

 :heart :heart :heart

omg,

its' 2019 and a presidential front runner just called the US a prostitute to the saudis.


Does anyone give a a damn about decorum anymore?

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« Reply #32468 on: April 16, 2019, 06:00:58 PM »
I think I'm warming up to the idea of a sanders/buttigeig ticket.

rip tina turner though.

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« Reply #32469 on: April 16, 2019, 06:02:29 PM »
Does anyone give a a damn about decorum anymore?

We're well past that, breh.
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« Reply #32470 on: April 16, 2019, 06:05:24 PM »
:stahp

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« Reply #32471 on: April 16, 2019, 06:43:44 PM »
Yet is it complete  'Hipocricy'

They all want to get into a wrestling match with Trump to get some attention.
However he'll eat them alive and make their lives miserable.
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« Reply #32472 on: April 16, 2019, 06:55:00 PM »
beast mode, the madman has done it once again

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« Reply #32473 on: April 16, 2019, 07:06:22 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-sheriff-columbine-lockdown-linked-fbi-probe-203312626.html

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LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) — The Latest on a lockdown at Columbine High School and other Denver area schools (all times local):

4:50 p.m.

Colorado Gov. Jared Polis says the threat that prompted a lockdown at Columbine High School and other Denver-area schools involved someone who was armed and "may be interested in harming our schools or our kids."

Polis said Tuesday the Colorado Department of Public Safety was working with the FBI to protect public safety.

He said he had no other information.

The Department of Public Safety urged schools urged schools to tighten security, and more than 20 put lockdowns in place.

The lockdowns come just days before the 20th anniversary of a mass shooting at Columbine High School that killed 12 students and a teacher. Authorities say they are looking for a woman suspected of making threats. They say she should be considered armed and extremely dangerous.

___

4:10 p.m.

All schools in the Denver area are being urged to tighten security after what appears to be a credible threat caused a lockout at Columbine High School and more than 20 other schools in the area.

Patricia Billinger, a spokeswoman for the Colorado Department of Public Safety, says the agency made the recommendation because Tuesday's threat was deemed "credible and general."

At least one school district heeded the advice. Aurora Public Schools tweeted that students were being released in a "controlled manner," and additional security was put in place throughout the district as a precaution.

The lockouts come just days before the 20th anniversary of a mass shooting at Columbine High School that killed 12 students and a teacher. Authorities say they are looking for a woman suspected of making threats. They say she should be considered armed and extremely dangerous.

___

3:45 p.m.

Following a lockdown at Columbine High School and other Denver area schools, authorities say they are looking for a woman suspected of making threats.

The Jefferson County Sheriff's Office and the FBI says 18-year-old Sol Pais traveled to Colorado on Monday night and made threats but they didn't provide any details about the threats. They say she was last seen in the foothills west of Denver, where some of the schools put on lockdown are located.

They didn't say where she traveled from.

Authorities said Pais is armed and considered extremely dangerous and should not be approached.

Doors were locked at Columbine and at least over 20 other schools in the Denver area as the sheriff's office said it was investigating a possible threat against schools that was related to an FBI investigation.

Students were dismissed on time but after school activities were canceled at Columbine.

____

2:55 p.m.

Students are leaving classes after tightened security at Columbine High School and over 20 other Denver-area high schools after a lockdown caused by a possible threat.

Students wearing backpacks came out the main door at Columbine on Tuesday afternoon, soon after school officials announced that students in all the schools put on lockdown were safe and would be dismissed at their normal times. The students walked to crosswalks and buses parked near the entrance.

Officials said after school activities will be held at all schools except Columbine, but didn't explain why.

A spokesman for the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office, Mike Taplin, said the lockdowns involved an FBI investigation but he couldn't provide any details. The sheriff's office previously said the lockdowns were prompted by an investigation into what appeared to be a credible threat possibly involving the schools

The lockdowns come just days before the 20th anniversary of a mass shooting at the school that killed 12 students and a teacher.

____

2:30 p.m.

Authorities say tightened security at Columbine High School and about a dozen other Denver-area schools is related to an FBI investigation.

A spokesman for the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office, Mike Taplin, said Tuesday's school lockdowns involved an FBI investigation but he couldn't provide any details. The sheriff's office previously said the lockdowns were prompted by its investigation into what appears to be a credible threat possibly involving the schools

A message left for an FBI spokeswoman wasn't immediately returned.

School officials say the doors were locked but classes were continuing at Columbine and two other nearby schools and at other schools farther away in the same district.

The lockdowns come just days before the 20th anniversary of a mass shooting at the school that killed 12 students and a teacher. There was no immediate indication whether there was any connection to the anniversary.

____

1:40 p.m.

Columbine High School and about a dozen other schools are on lockdown as law enforcement says it is investigating what appears to be a credible threat possibly involving the schools.

School officials say the doors were locked but classes were continuing Tuesday at Columbine and two other nearby schools and at other schools farther away in the district.

The Jefferson County Sheriff's Office said deputies were posted at the schools involved.

The lockdown comes just days before the 20th anniversary of a mass shooting at the school that killed 12 students and a teacher. There was no immediate indication whether Tuesday's lockdown has any connection to the anniversary.

Well, this is fucked.


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« Reply #32475 on: April 16, 2019, 09:43:45 PM »
Primary Pelosi :punch :gun
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« Reply #32476 on: April 16, 2019, 10:00:52 PM »
https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1118311496172408833

Julian Castro going have to drop out by June.  :D

Also, this Alex Burns guy is salty about it.

https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1118312424141131781

What exactly does Julian Castro bring to the democratic debates that people need to hear?

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« Reply #32477 on: April 16, 2019, 10:09:02 PM »
is this dude suggesting that the DNC tipped Yang off and is assisting his campaign?

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« Reply #32478 on: April 16, 2019, 10:15:31 PM »
is this dude suggesting that the DNC tipped Yang off and is assisting his campaign?

I think it's more that Yang is somehow gaming the system, and shouldn't even be considered making the debates in the first place.

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« Reply #32479 on: April 16, 2019, 10:44:01 PM »
https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1118311496172408833

Julian Castro going have to drop out by June.  :D

Also, this Alex Burns guy is salty about it.

https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1118312424141131781

What exactly does Julian Castro bring to the democratic debates that people need to hear?

Obama's ben carson.

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« Reply #32481 on: April 16, 2019, 10:55:47 PM »
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1118223317465468928


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« Reply #32482 on: April 16, 2019, 10:59:55 PM »
1) Eli Lilly is most easy going name for a company that deals in pharmaceuticals. lol

2) Going after john deere takes some balls in my prejudiced mind about the midwest.

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« Reply #32484 on: April 16, 2019, 11:18:16 PM »
 :lol
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« Reply #32485 on: April 16, 2019, 11:22:00 PM »

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« Reply #32486 on: April 16, 2019, 11:55:48 PM »
https://twitter.com/BF1nn/status/1118271267256307713

 :dead


"If Trump is reality TV then maybe Buttigieg is Game of Thrones and all this other high brow television"

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« Reply #32488 on: April 17, 2019, 01:20:02 AM »
Tucker wants a piece of that butti

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« Reply #32489 on: April 17, 2019, 02:25:47 AM »
the tuck's wife just got butticucced
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« Reply #32491 on: April 17, 2019, 06:13:11 AM »
I'm not sure where this belongs but whatever. I hail from the progressive wasteland known as California. I finished a BS in Biology circa 2010 at a CSU system school, the original intent was to pursue medical school. Unfortunately while completing said B.S. I came to the realization that I am a dumb and lazy cunt that didn't have enough ammo to be a competitive applicant. As i got close to completing my BS i started bugging admin to let me get a second B.S. in engineering, had a meeting with the cunty vice dean who told me that Ahnold had gutted the schools so badly that they were pretty much throwing every app with a previous BS into the trashcan to give future virgin students a chance to get a Bachelors. I argued that i hadn't officially graduated and i wanted to forego the like one class i had left to finish Biology and transition into Engy cuz I felt like I could get better job opportunities, and i wouldn't linger too long since I had done all the non-core coursework and some advanced math. She told me to stfu and graduate and gtfo, essentially. This was in 2010. After like i dunno how many years of da gawds Obummer and Jerry Brown, I go in today to rectify another miserable debt laden enterprise leaning into the depths of saturation and obsolescence. Here I am trying to lift myself up by my bootstraps, ready to fully pay for tuition to bravely combat the transformational changes on the labor market affected by technological disruption and supply saturation. I've been told yet again to fuck right off and to instead attempt to pipe dream myself into a Master's degree spot in a subject that is completely unrelated to my previous studies. Land of da free. I mean the huge draw of  both California state systems , especially the CSU system, is their affordability. It's kind of easy to see how private and for profits thrive in such a scenario...or people simply refuse to go back and retrain.  I mean CSU is probably adopting the optimal strategy given current budgetary constraints but yeah.... It sucks, you dun goofed warcawk


TL:DR
California state schools essentially won't allow you to get a second bachelors due to bugetary constraints which is quite concerning given the prophecy of automation/violent labor market shifts, this is setting aside social mobility, inequality and like you know doing what the fuck you want to do at one point or another in your life. Fucking millennials.

Euros can you chime in on this? I thought you guys were even more restrictive than us with schooling.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2019, 06:21:38 AM by warcock »

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« Reply #32492 on: April 17, 2019, 09:33:05 AM »
I'm not sure where this belongs but whatever. I hail from the progressive wasteland known as California. I finished a BS in Biology circa 2010 at a CSU system school, the original intent was to pursue medical school. Unfortunately while completing said B.S. I came to the realization that I am a dumb and lazy cunt that didn't have enough ammo to be a competitive applicant. As i got close to completing my BS i started bugging admin to let me get a second B.S. in engineering, had a meeting with the cunty vice dean who told me that Ahnold had gutted the schools so badly that they were pretty much throwing every app with a previous BS into the trashcan to give future virgin students a chance to get a Bachelors. I argued that i hadn't officially graduated and i wanted to forego the like one class i had left to finish Biology and transition into Engy cuz I felt like I could get better job opportunities, and i wouldn't linger too long since I had done all the non-core coursework and some advanced math. She told me to stfu and graduate and gtfo, essentially. This was in 2010. After like i dunno how many years of da gawds Obummer and Jerry Brown, I go in today to rectify another miserable debt laden enterprise leaning into the depths of saturation and obsolescence. Here I am trying to lift myself up by my bootstraps, ready to fully pay for tuition to bravely combat the transformational changes on the labor market affected by technological disruption and supply saturation. I've been told yet again to fuck right off and to instead attempt to pipe dream myself into a Master's degree spot in a subject that is completely unrelated to my previous studies. Land of da free. I mean the huge draw of  both California state systems , especially the CSU system, is their affordability. It's kind of easy to see how private and for profits thrive in such a scenario...or people simply refuse to go back and retrain.  I mean CSU is probably adopting the optimal strategy given current budgetary constraints but yeah.... It sucks, you dun goofed warcawk


TL:DR
California state schools essentially won't allow you to get a second bachelors due to bugetary constraints which is quite concerning given the prophecy of automation/violent labor market shifts, this is setting aside social mobility, inequality and like you know doing what the fuck you want to do at one point or another in your life. Fucking millennials.

Euros can you chime in on this? I thought you guys were even more restrictive than us with schooling.

I have a colleague in a similar situation, he's going the UC route to get that 2nd bachelors. 

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« Reply #32493 on: April 17, 2019, 10:27:56 AM »
What is the second degree you want? Even if it's unrelated to bio, you may be able to do a Masters in it as long as you take a few prerequisites at a community college.

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« Reply #32494 on: April 17, 2019, 10:55:34 AM »
And so it begins
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118321122624331776

As someone that took an out of state project this year, meaning thanks to fuckwit and the Reichstag of the aristocracy, I(less so) and every worker the project employed that had to get temporary living arrangements lost the ability to deduct those expenses that rose above their per-diem. But thankfully those assholes now get a pass-through loophole to bring their effective rates below those of some random laborers and their shit kids can then inherit that wealth at cheaper rates.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2019, 11:07:28 AM by Nola »

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« Reply #32495 on: April 17, 2019, 02:00:27 PM »
I'm not sure where this belongs but whatever. I hail from the progressive wasteland known as California. I finished a BS in Biology circa 2010 at a CSU system school, the original intent was to pursue medical school. Unfortunately while completing said B.S. I came to the realization that I am a dumb and lazy cunt that didn't have enough ammo to be a competitive applicant. As i got close to completing my BS i started bugging admin to let me get a second B.S. in engineering, had a meeting with the cunty vice dean who told me that Ahnold had gutted the schools so badly that they were pretty much throwing every app with a previous BS into the trashcan to give future virgin students a chance to get a Bachelors. I argued that i hadn't officially graduated and i wanted to forego the like one class i had left to finish Biology and transition into Engy cuz I felt like I could get better job opportunities, and i wouldn't linger too long since I had done all the non-core coursework and some advanced math. She told me to stfu and graduate and gtfo, essentially. This was in 2010. After like i dunno how many years of da gawds Obummer and Jerry Brown, I go in today to rectify another miserable debt laden enterprise leaning into the depths of saturation and obsolescence. Here I am trying to lift myself up by my bootstraps, ready to fully pay for tuition to bravely combat the transformational changes on the labor market affected by technological disruption and supply saturation. I've been told yet again to fuck right off and to instead attempt to pipe dream myself into a Master's degree spot in a subject that is completely unrelated to my previous studies. Land of da free. I mean the huge draw of  both California state systems , especially the CSU system, is their affordability. It's kind of easy to see how private and for profits thrive in such a scenario...or people simply refuse to go back and retrain.  I mean CSU is probably adopting the optimal strategy given current budgetary constraints but yeah.... It sucks, you dun goofed warcawk


TL:DR
California state schools essentially won't allow you to get a second bachelors due to bugetary constraints which is quite concerning given the prophecy of automation/violent labor market shifts, this is setting aside social mobility, inequality and like you know doing what the fuck you want to do at one point or another in your life. Fucking millennials.

Euros can you chime in on this? I thought you guys were even more restrictive than us with schooling.

I have a colleague in a similar situation, he's going the UC route to get that 2nd bachelors.

Getting a masters makes way more sense that a second bachelors, in basically any discipline you might want to do so. Even if you want to get some sort of engineering masters, you can probably cover the pre-reqs for that far more quickly than getting a second bachelors.

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« Reply #32498 on: April 17, 2019, 04:54:51 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/16/opinion/facial-recognition-new-york-city.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab

holy shit
This is nothing compared to what people leave behind on social media.

Everyone has willingly given up their privacy to a point that goes even beyond the wildest of dreams of the people that wrote the Patriot Act.
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« Reply #32499 on: April 17, 2019, 07:44:45 PM »
https://twitter.com/myhlee/status/1118553619434024961

Bernie not being a team player again  :wag

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« Reply #32500 on: April 17, 2019, 07:46:34 PM »
when you hit Bernie, Bernie hits back twice as hard

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« Reply #32501 on: April 17, 2019, 08:04:05 PM »
He’s a counter puncher.

This 2019 PUMA shit is amazing. Like those emails are not objectionable to me at all.

He has a right to be pissed. That CAP ad was ridiculously unfair.

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« Reply #32502 on: April 17, 2019, 08:11:00 PM »
He’s a counter puncher.

This 2019 PUMA shit is amazing. Like those emails are not objectionable to me at all.

He has a right to be pissed. That CAP ad was ridiculously unfair.

2019 PUMA doesn't even make sense. The 2008 version was because they were so mad Hillary lost to Obama. In, 2016, their candidate won the nomination and she couldn't seal the deal. Why are you targeting Bernie now other than complain that Hilary ran a bad campaign.

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« Reply #32503 on: April 17, 2019, 08:28:06 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-sheriff-columbine-lockdown-linked-fbi-probe-203312626.html

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LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) — The Latest on a lockdown at Columbine High School and other Denver area schools (all times local):

4:50 p.m.

Colorado Gov. Jared Polis says the threat that prompted a lockdown at Columbine High School and other Denver-area schools involved someone who was armed and "may be interested in harming our schools or our kids."

Polis said Tuesday the Colorado Department of Public Safety was working with the FBI to protect public safety.

He said he had no other information.

The Department of Public Safety urged schools urged schools to tighten security, and more than 20 put lockdowns in place.

The lockdowns come just days before the 20th anniversary of a mass shooting at Columbine High School that killed 12 students and a teacher. Authorities say they are looking for a woman suspected of making threats. They say she should be considered armed and extremely dangerous.

___

4:10 p.m.

All schools in the Denver area are being urged to tighten security after what appears to be a credible threat caused a lockout at Columbine High School and more than 20 other schools in the area.

Patricia Billinger, a spokeswoman for the Colorado Department of Public Safety, says the agency made the recommendation because Tuesday's threat was deemed "credible and general."

At least one school district heeded the advice. Aurora Public Schools tweeted that students were being released in a "controlled manner," and additional security was put in place throughout the district as a precaution.

The lockouts come just days before the 20th anniversary of a mass shooting at Columbine High School that killed 12 students and a teacher. Authorities say they are looking for a woman suspected of making threats. They say she should be considered armed and extremely dangerous.

___

3:45 p.m.

Following a lockdown at Columbine High School and other Denver area schools, authorities say they are looking for a woman suspected of making threats.

The Jefferson County Sheriff's Office and the FBI says 18-year-old Sol Pais traveled to Colorado on Monday night and made threats but they didn't provide any details about the threats. They say she was last seen in the foothills west of Denver, where some of the schools put on lockdown are located.

They didn't say where she traveled from.

Authorities said Pais is armed and considered extremely dangerous and should not be approached.

Doors were locked at Columbine and at least over 20 other schools in the Denver area as the sheriff's office said it was investigating a possible threat against schools that was related to an FBI investigation.

Students were dismissed on time but after school activities were canceled at Columbine.

____

2:55 p.m.

Students are leaving classes after tightened security at Columbine High School and over 20 other Denver-area high schools after a lockdown caused by a possible threat.

Students wearing backpacks came out the main door at Columbine on Tuesday afternoon, soon after school officials announced that students in all the schools put on lockdown were safe and would be dismissed at their normal times. The students walked to crosswalks and buses parked near the entrance.

Officials said after school activities will be held at all schools except Columbine, but didn't explain why.

A spokesman for the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office, Mike Taplin, said the lockdowns involved an FBI investigation but he couldn't provide any details. The sheriff's office previously said the lockdowns were prompted by an investigation into what appeared to be a credible threat possibly involving the schools

The lockdowns come just days before the 20th anniversary of a mass shooting at the school that killed 12 students and a teacher.

____

2:30 p.m.

Authorities say tightened security at Columbine High School and about a dozen other Denver-area schools is related to an FBI investigation.

A spokesman for the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office, Mike Taplin, said Tuesday's school lockdowns involved an FBI investigation but he couldn't provide any details. The sheriff's office previously said the lockdowns were prompted by its investigation into what appears to be a credible threat possibly involving the schools

A message left for an FBI spokeswoman wasn't immediately returned.

School officials say the doors were locked but classes were continuing at Columbine and two other nearby schools and at other schools farther away in the same district.

The lockdowns come just days before the 20th anniversary of a mass shooting at the school that killed 12 students and a teacher. There was no immediate indication whether there was any connection to the anniversary.

____

1:40 p.m.

Columbine High School and about a dozen other schools are on lockdown as law enforcement says it is investigating what appears to be a credible threat possibly involving the schools.

School officials say the doors were locked but classes were continuing Tuesday at Columbine and two other nearby schools and at other schools farther away in the district.

The Jefferson County Sheriff's Office said deputies were posted at the schools involved.

The lockdown comes just days before the 20th anniversary of a mass shooting at the school that killed 12 students and a teacher. There was no immediate indication whether Tuesday's lockdown has any connection to the anniversary.

Well, this is fucked.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1118571481087336449

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« Reply #32504 on: April 17, 2019, 08:45:32 PM »
He’s a counter puncher.

This 2019 PUMA shit is amazing. Like those emails are not objectionable to me at all.

He has a right to be pissed. That CAP ad was ridiculously unfair.

2019 PUMA doesn't even make sense. The 2008 version was because they were so mad Hillary lost to Obama. In, 2016, their candidate won the nomination and she couldn't seal the deal. Why are you targeting Bernie now other than complain that Hilary ran a bad campaign.

Bernie even went out campaigning for Hillary.

I went to a campaign event myself, actually.... probably the only one in the campaign that went to Wisconsin.

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« Reply #32505 on: April 17, 2019, 08:55:37 PM »
Sad but good she did it without killing others.
IYKYK

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« Reply #32506 on: April 17, 2019, 09:50:59 PM »

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« Reply #32507 on: April 17, 2019, 10:14:04 PM »
are you in the bay, tripon?

L.A., but there's similar issues here in terms of affordable housing. The guy running these mailers is the same asshole who is using his AID non profit to protect his multi million dollar mansion and his 'views' so they don't build apartment buildings near his house.

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« Reply #32508 on: April 18, 2019, 12:45:31 AM »
https://www.wired.com/story/one-doctors-answer-to-drug-deaths-opioid-vending-machines/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

30 years ago:

criminalize those addicted to crack, ship it into black neighborhoods, destroy entire communities.

Now, during a drug crisis that affects mostly white people:

we need opiate vending machines.

I have no idea if it's because the overall attitude towards drug use has changed in the public, racism, or both.
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« Reply #32509 on: April 18, 2019, 12:49:09 AM »
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« Reply #32510 on: April 18, 2019, 02:04:31 AM »
https://www.wired.com/story/one-doctors-answer-to-drug-deaths-opioid-vending-machines/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

30 years ago:

criminalize those addicted to crack, ship it into black neighborhoods, destroy entire communities.

Now, during a drug crisis that affects mostly white people:

we need opiate vending machines.

I have no idea if it's because the overall attitude towards drug use has changed in the public, racism, or both.

not sure why you're equating the Reagan administration with a pilot program in a harm reduction safe zone in Vancouver
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« Reply #32511 on: April 18, 2019, 07:52:04 AM »
https://twitter.com/CarolLeonnig/status/1118677732014088193

So if it really does turns out to be only lightly redacted and it exonerates Trump, I wonder what conspiracy #Releasethereport crowd will latch on to next? My guess would be they'll move on to #Releasethetax. Personally I hope Maddow continues with the Russia conspiracy though, backing down is a sign of weakness.

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« Reply #32512 on: April 18, 2019, 08:50:04 AM »
Considering by-the-books Mueller was unable to make a clear judgment of exoneration on obstruction, impressing upon that point even, and we all have access to NBC, it would seem pretty difficult to get to a place where Trump comes out looking the way some of you like to play dumb and move the ethical goalposts in pursuit of defending him to own the libs.

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« Reply #32513 on: April 18, 2019, 10:22:24 AM »
I mean Era is in a frenzy but if I understand correctly :

- Report to be released to Congress.
- No redactions by the White House.
- Redactions by the AG related to ongoing cases and to protect third parties from slander.
- 10 episodes characterising the suspected obstruction on which the Special Councel weighted legal musings which I imagine are included, Barr's opinion notwithstanding.
- More details on Russian interferences and possible links between Trump Campaign staff and possible information brokers even if no direct link proved between the Russian Government and Trump, probably included in the report.
- Barr not opposed to Mueller being called to Congress for testimony.

Isn't it all a rather positive outcome regardless of the spin ?
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« Reply #32514 on: April 18, 2019, 10:28:03 AM »
I mean Era is in a frenzy but if I understand correctly :

- Report to be released to Congress.
- No redactions by the White House.
- Redactions by the AG related to ongoing cases and to protect third parties from slander.
- 10 episodes characterising the suspected obstruction on which the Special Councel weighted legal musings which I imagine are included, Barr's opinion notwithstanding.
- More details on Russian interferences and possible links between Trump Campaign staff and possible information brokers even if no direct link proved between the Russian Government and Trump, probably included in the report.
- Barr not opposed to Mueller being called to Congress.

Isn't it all a rather positive outcome ?

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« Reply #32515 on: April 18, 2019, 10:40:51 AM »
I mean Era is in a frenzy but if I understand correctly :

- Report to be released to Congress.
- No redactions by the White House.
- Redactions by the AG related to ongoing cases and to protect third parties from slander.
- 10 episodes characterising the suspected obstruction on which the Special Councel weighted legal musings which I imagine are included, Barr's opinion notwithstanding.
- More details on Russian interferences and possible links between Trump Campaign staff and possible information brokers even if no direct link proved between the Russian Government and Trump, probably included in the report.
- Barr not opposed to Mueller being called to Congress for testimony.

Isn't it all a rather positive outcome regardless of the spin ?
Who the fuck cares what some randoms on Era think? I know the answer is an unhealthy niche of people a thread over that derives an unhealthy size of their identity from hating that site, but still.

Anyways, more like let's just wait and read the report.

There are very real concerns about Barr's role in this process, including just now from that conference. Where it looks more and more like Barr is turning the DOJ into Trump's second defense counsel and PR firm. What is left redacted and what the inevitable leaks/impressions from the less-redacted congressional version signals will be the hinge on how to swing judgment going forward IMO.

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« Reply #32516 on: April 18, 2019, 11:13:28 AM »
What would total exoneration even look like?

At the very best, Trump is able to impress people that he acted incredibly ethically shady and ran right up to the line without technically breaking the law.

But because of the way this has been rolled out, I don’t even think it’s possible to do that. Barr is doing an incredible job of making it look like he’s trying to cover up the report in Trumps favor. So if he’s truly trying to be as transparent as possible, he’s doing a piss poor job of it.

All of the things We publically know about still happened.

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« Reply #32517 on: April 18, 2019, 11:18:11 AM »
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1118895263790370817

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1118895937265504256

I guess nobody is exonerated.

Also: it was released in non searchable PDF with none of the exhibits.


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« Reply #32518 on: April 18, 2019, 11:24:21 AM »

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