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Re: RELATIONSHIPS: helping wizards deplete their mana since 2011
« Reply #11580 on: October 07, 2019, 08:38:01 AM »
Met a non binary person via tinder with the best tits I've ever seen, made her squirt and nutted in her mouth.

Made a best friend with a separate lady. I fell in love with her, she's very attracted to me as well. She's married though. No sex has happened, but we're both holding back and barely containing ourselves.

Talking and befriending women used to be this incredibly daunting thing. It really amounts to grinding and getting experience points and shit with communication and socializing.

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« Reply #11581 on: October 07, 2019, 09:10:26 AM »
Well even if I can be in another relationship I’m not interested right now. And I sure am not going to use dating apps. And my current job isn’t really conductive to meeting women, nor is my friend group. But that’s fine for now.

I sent the texts messages she sent me to what I believe is the dude’s wife’s Facebook. Maybe a douche move, but I don’t care.


We're going to need a copy to properly judge the situation.

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« Reply #11582 on: October 07, 2019, 09:06:56 PM »
Well even if I can be in another relationship I’m not interested right now. And I sure am not going to use dating apps. And my current job isn’t really conductive to meeting women, nor is my friend group. But that’s fine for now.

I sent the texts messages she sent me to what I believe is the dude’s wife’s Facebook. Maybe a douche move, but I don’t care.


We're going to need a copy to properly judge the situation.
The wife hasn’t replied to me and probably won’t.

I can upload the text she sent me. It’s not very exciting. Just her telling me he was driving through the area, that she doesn’t know what’s going to happen, but she is lonely and doesn’t have many friends so she’s up for meeting this guy. That whatever happens we should still talk and be normal.

Then later she went into some detail about the sex.

To which I just said ok and went about my day. Not really much for me to say anymore.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2019, 09:11:09 PM by Rahxephon91 »

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« Reply #11583 on: October 07, 2019, 09:23:51 PM »
No, you can say many things about me on the bore, but I don’t think a lier is among it. I’ve been pretty honest and upfront about me as a person.

And I don’t think it was like that. My therapist and I talked about this a lot obviously and you know this is my first go around and I’m dealing with emotions I’ve never really handled before and they are just exploding everywhere. My thought processes really focuses on there here and now of negativity and my distortions from it. Instead I should be making “branches” and thinking more about the other outcomes. I don’t think any of us we’re co-dependent. I mean I had my space and she had hers. I just got dumb about and encroachment on what I precived was a shared space. I don’t know, I don’t care. I don’t want to slip back into my supposed incel old self, but I don’t particularly have good opinion of relationships and I’m sure not intersted in interacting with women anytime soon. So I don’t know what I’m doing.

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« Reply #11584 on: October 07, 2019, 09:38:21 PM »
 :fbm
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« Reply #11585 on: October 07, 2019, 09:39:26 PM »
So because she moved to another state I was supposed to expect she’d fuck other people? Even when she claimed that wouldn’t happen?

Eh I didn’t go around trying to fuck other people and believed her when she said she wasn’t interested in other people and was opening to patching things up?

Not that it matters, but I’m not sure how I follow how this was an honest and expected outcome.

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« Reply #11586 on: October 07, 2019, 09:42:23 PM »
So because she moved to another state I was supposed to expect she’d fuck other people? Even when she claimed that wouldn’t happen?
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« Reply #11587 on: October 07, 2019, 09:45:20 PM »
How is that a dog emoji worthy reply?

Plenty of people make long distance relationships work..

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« Reply #11588 on: October 07, 2019, 09:48:33 PM »
even when the relationship is strong beforehand, it's hard to make long distance work.

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« Reply #11589 on: October 07, 2019, 09:50:52 PM »
The part that during the break she also said she wasn’t open to, talking to, or interested in other people. Where she said it was a mistake to say she wouldn’t limit herself as that’s not what she exactly meant.

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« Reply #11590 on: October 07, 2019, 09:56:40 PM »
she was full of shit and you should never had expected someone to hold true to that anyway. focus on where you are and what you are doing.
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« Reply #11591 on: October 07, 2019, 10:00:55 PM »
You should probably get it on with that dude’s wife. It would be only fair.

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« Reply #11592 on: October 07, 2019, 10:01:33 PM »
Ok lesson learned. In future relationships don’t give a fuck about other people’s feelings and fuck whoever you want, because you shouldn’t expect anything or believe what people say.

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« Reply #11593 on: October 07, 2019, 10:09:52 PM »
Ok lesson learned. In future relationships don’t give a fuck about other people’s feelings and fuck whoever you want, because you shouldn’t expect anything or believe what people say.
not in a long distance that wasn't even a relationship anymore
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« Reply #11594 on: October 07, 2019, 10:14:06 PM »
Well even if I can be in another relationship I’m not interested right now. And I sure am not going to use dating apps. And my current job isn’t really conductive to meeting women, nor is my friend group. But that’s fine for now.

I sent the texts messages she sent me to what I believe is the dude’s wife’s Facebook. Maybe a douche move, but I don’t care.

Japanese say "bouketsu horu," which means "In order to dig a grave for your enemy, you must stand in it."

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« Reply #11595 on: October 07, 2019, 11:42:20 PM »
This could end a lot of different ways for you but she's encouraging you to build a life outside of her and has implied she's going to do the same so you might as well not overinvest in what's left of your relationship imo.
Esch told you this three weeks ago and you didn't really take anyone's advice to take a clean break. Watching her move on from you was inevitably going to painful.

She gave you a good, honest, solid relationship for many months and was extremely patient with your many faults. Then she moved away. That could have been a healthy end to the relationship. But instead you (both?) clung to it. The truth is she did nothing wrong. So this:
Ok lesson learned. In future relationships don’t give a fuck about other people’s feelings and fuck whoever you want, because you shouldn’t expect anything or believe what people say.
is 100% the wrong conclusion. Maybe you don't see it now because it hurts but you should figure it out before you develop some kind of unhealthy embitterment that hangs over every other relationship you have.
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« Reply #11596 on: October 08, 2019, 12:44:25 AM »
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« Reply #11597 on: October 08, 2019, 01:05:25 AM »
She moved to another state with the initial intention of staying together; she then clearly communicated with you she wanted a break specifically saying she might sleep with other people.

A very common outcome for long distance relationships.

What do I have wrong here?

You tried to communicate with someone who is not, generally speaking, open to hearing other subjective interpretations.

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« Reply #11598 on: October 08, 2019, 01:32:14 AM »
Harsh, but fair.

Well what do I do now?
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« Reply #11599 on: October 08, 2019, 02:00:12 AM »
revenge porn

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Completely cut contact this time, including with that dude's wife. Hit the gym. Give yourself a ton of distractions and focus on your own life.
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« Reply #11600 on: October 08, 2019, 02:03:26 AM »
Harsh, but fair.

Well what do I do now?

Watch Joker.
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« Reply #11601 on: October 08, 2019, 02:08:41 AM »
I know you just want to shit talk and troll me Bionic like TIMU and a lot of the bore, probably because I am a POS and rather annoying.

But no I'm not a fucking incel. I'm not going to watch that dumb movie. I don't hate women, even now. I'm too busy hating myself for that. I am a whinny and bitter person, but sometimes I do try to correct that. Sometimes theres succsess, sometimes. So just fucking stop trolling me. I'm sorry that I lay out all my problems and flaws on the bore which leads to probably having a bad image here. I can't fix that at this point. I'm sorry. All I can ask is that you I guess understand that I aslo get what kind of annoyance I am.
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« Reply #11602 on: October 08, 2019, 02:11:56 AM »
breh, I'm still #teamrahx all the way. we wanna see you win, breh  :heart
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« Reply #11603 on: October 08, 2019, 03:36:49 AM »
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« Reply #11604 on: October 08, 2019, 04:17:37 AM »
I know you just want to shit talk and troll me Bionic like TIMU and a lot of the bore, probably because I am a POS and rather annoying.

But no I'm not a fucking incel. I'm not going to watch that dumb movie. I don't hate women, even now. I'm too busy hating myself for that. I am a whinny and bitter person, but sometimes I do try to correct that. Sometimes theres succsess, sometimes. So just fucking stop trolling me. I'm sorry that I lay out all my problems and flaws on the bore which leads to probably having a bad image here. I can't fix that at this point. I'm sorry. All I can ask is that you I guess understand that I aslo get what kind of annoyance I am.

I wish you'd like yourself as much as we do.
We actually all want the best for you. We want you to be happy.
We frequently get frustrated that you seem to be looking for input, then busily and verbosely tell us all while we're wrong.
I think you seeking professional help is one of the most mature things you've done. Sticking with it will be one of the best things you can do for yourself.

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« Reply #11605 on: October 08, 2019, 05:31:50 AM »
Real talk, that girl sounds like she's got some severe issues. Good riddance, I say.

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« Reply #11606 on: October 08, 2019, 10:46:41 AM »
So because she moved to another state I was supposed to expect she’d fuck other people?

The answer to this riddle of riddles is always

Yes
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« Reply #11607 on: October 08, 2019, 10:50:58 AM »
same goes for if you do a couple months or more in jail. women get lonely and horny, breh. they're gonna fuck if you ain't around. you may find exceptions to this, but the majority of the time it's going to happen.
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« Reply #11608 on: October 08, 2019, 11:07:35 AM »
Well that doesn't really make any sense to me and seems to be counter productive thinking. We were in a relationship when she moved. Why would I think just because she moved she'd fuck someone else? That would have been cheating and thinking about that sure would'nt have helped me. I did'nt think about or attempt to have sex with anyone because she was gone. We had trust in each other.

And while you will say you weren't in a relationship for the last couple of weeks, I didnt think she'd do that so quickly or right now as she said it wasn't going to happen and to not worry. Ok well I was wrong, but my point is really before this I'm not sure why I should have expected her to fuck other people. That doesn't seem like a healthy outlook.

You say don't become bitter, but the lesson here seems to be don't trust people and become bitter. So what is it? In plenty of relationships theres probably going to be plenty of time where you're not together, am I just supposed to expect because I'm not in the immediate area my partner is going to fuck someone? Should I hover around my next partner? I don't get the lesson here beyond never attempt a long distant relationship which doesn't seem to be a positive lesson.  I mean yeah I'm not going to try that again, but still.

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« Reply #11609 on: October 08, 2019, 11:16:44 AM »
The lesson is to assume that "let's take a break" is just a euphemism for breaking up.

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« Reply #11610 on: October 08, 2019, 11:40:53 AM »
Well I guess I was an idiot. Hilariously she said she’d be hurt if I had sex with anyone else. The good thing about her being away at least is that there’s no chance of me interacting with her. So that will help with not dwelling on it. And yeah even if it is my insecurity l don’t want to be friends with an ex.

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« Reply #11611 on: October 08, 2019, 11:44:34 AM »
You aren't an idiot, you just didn't understand how these things usually work out. Don't think anyone here would recommend you staying friends with her at this point.
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« Reply #11612 on: October 08, 2019, 11:45:58 AM »
Well I guess I was an idiot. Hilariously she said she’d be hurt if I had sex with anyone else. The good thing about her being away at least is that there’s no chance of me interacting with her. So that will help with not dwelling on it. And yeah even if it is my insecurity l don’t want to be friends with an ex.
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She sounds like an asshole.

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« Reply #11613 on: October 08, 2019, 12:07:42 PM »
I’ve never been friends with an ex. Why bother, World is big enough.

Pump and dump I say.  :hump
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« Reply #11614 on: October 08, 2019, 12:25:53 PM »
Hilariously she said she’d be hurt if I had sex with anyone else.


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« Reply #11615 on: October 08, 2019, 12:34:55 PM »
Is your ex friends with the possum girl? Just, sayin'.
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« Reply #11616 on: October 08, 2019, 12:51:35 PM »
Possum girl recently became monogamous. A last ditch effort trying to salvage her smoldering relationship with heroin boy.

Also, she’s been wanting to see me every week now but I’ve been pulling back a lot with her. Absence makes the heart grow fonder etc. etc.  :doge

She no joke briefly burst into tears when we last met and told me how glad she was to have me in her life.  8)

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« Reply #11617 on: October 08, 2019, 01:44:35 PM »
At least Rahx acts out in anger.
Man, Atra, I'm not in your shoes and all but often it does come out like that.
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« Reply #11618 on: October 08, 2019, 01:54:34 PM »
Atra, have you read the Satanic Bible at any point? 👀

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« Reply #11619 on: October 08, 2019, 01:55:17 PM »
Imagine thinking you're a badass gangsta for being a shitty and manipulative friend.

I was about to say. Unless you're on some sort of suicidal bad behavior bender, being an asshole will eventually haunt you or fuck you up emotionally at some point.

If you want some feeling of power, get into BDSM. Legit Doms are empathetic and decent people tho.
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« Reply #11620 on: October 08, 2019, 02:15:11 PM »
Atra, have you read the Satanic Bible at any point? 👀
Yes, among other similar texts & philosophies.

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« Reply #11621 on: October 08, 2019, 02:18:23 PM »
such as the joker movie? incels on shrooms rise up

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« Reply #11622 on: October 08, 2019, 02:22:12 PM »
Imagine thinking you're a badass gangsta for being a shitty and manipulative friend.
I’m on the surface treating her like I would any other friend. (Well... minus the making out when she was still poly)

Logistically I cannot hangout with the same friend each week because we all have different schedules.

Also, this intentional distancing is preventing her from manipulating me into becoming her “substitute gay best friend” (who recently moved away) or “I see you as a brother” friend.

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« Reply #11623 on: October 08, 2019, 02:37:05 PM »
We both flat out told each other we love each other.
And I do resent her a bit for passing me up for a heroin addict who can’t hold a job for more than a few months...

But hey, we all make mistakes. All shall be forgiven once that relationship meets its inevitable end and she eventually comes around to me.

And if not then she’ll become one of many acquaintances that I’m friendly to but not super close with.

:yeshrug

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« Reply #11624 on: October 08, 2019, 02:39:55 PM »
what a weird fucking dude you are

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« Reply #11625 on: October 08, 2019, 02:43:12 PM »
We both flat out told each other we love each other.
And I do resent her a bit for passing me up for a heroin addict who can’t hold a job for more than a few months...

But hey, we all make mistakes. All shall be forgiven once that relationship meets its inevitable end and she eventually comes around to me.

And if not then she’ll become one of many acquaintances that I’m friendly to but not super close with.

:yeshrug

To be real with you both of these sound like massive assumptions. If she does love you then why is she still with a heroin addict?
She’s giving him one more chance before their 1st anniversary to get his shit together because she still loves him. But she even admitted to me that that love for him has dwindled considerably.

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« Reply #11626 on: October 08, 2019, 02:55:22 PM »
what a weird fucking dude you are
I’m a product of my upbringing & environment.

Manipulation is a way of life & survival for me.

edit: Also, being genuine has only fucked me over. Countless times. It’s part of the reason why I lost my marketing job because I gave my sociopath creative director too much rope to hang myself with.
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« Reply #11627 on: October 08, 2019, 02:58:17 PM »
Does it... have to be?

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« Reply #11628 on: October 08, 2019, 03:10:52 PM »

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« Reply #11629 on: October 08, 2019, 03:17:39 PM »
"Do you want to know how I got these emotional scars?"
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« Reply #11630 on: October 08, 2019, 03:26:20 PM »
For anyone keeping score on bire open arrangements, the wife and I stopped being open like 10 months ago, and mostly unrelated but we’re now on the rocks. I’m having a pretty hard time with it.

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« Reply #11631 on: October 08, 2019, 03:30:21 PM »
Bless up cats, we love you.
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« Reply #11632 on: October 08, 2019, 03:31:46 PM »
Does it... have to be?
Ever since I’ve started dating its been this way.

Be genuine & too friendly, women lose interest/get weirded out/want to treat you like their bestie.
Be somewhat cold & distant with some warmness sprinkled in (like their fathers most likely), they chase after you & wanna sit on your dick.  :doge

edit: also, possum girl isn’t the only gal I’ve been hanging out with.

I’m seeing this blonde bimbo as well since the other girl with the short hair lost interest because we lived too far away from each other: https://imgur.com/a/LFEc3e0
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« Reply #11633 on: October 08, 2019, 03:35:15 PM »
Does it... have to be?
Ever since I’ve started dating its been this way.

Be genuine & too friendly, women lose interest/get weirded out/want to treat you like their bestie.
Be somewhat cold & distant with some warmness sprinkled in (like their fathers most likely), they chase after you & wanna sit on your dick.  :doge

damn esch was right

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« Reply #11634 on: October 08, 2019, 03:35:28 PM »
Eh, I've found true love by taking risks and communicating my most genuine and true self. That doesn't mean dumping all your darkest and fucked up emotions. It means talking thru that dark shit and unraveling each other.

It feels nice to nut in a mouth or hole, but to find your soulmate(s), there's nothing more gratifying than that. It ain't easy tho.
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« Reply #11635 on: October 08, 2019, 03:45:44 PM »
If you ever find yourself using the words "seeing this bimbo", change.
She’s not very bright though.  :doge

She’s like your stereotypical “dumb blonde” with a thick southern accent.

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« Reply #11636 on: October 08, 2019, 03:47:07 PM »
you're making it worse
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« Reply #11638 on: October 08, 2019, 04:17:45 PM »
How about this, I do what works for me and you all do what works for you.

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Re: RELATIONSHIPS: helping wizards deplete their mana since 2011
« Reply #11639 on: October 08, 2019, 04:20:53 PM »
that smooth guy, max chill, drugged up, mind expanding facade dropping real quick :lol