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Occam

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57120 on: February 04, 2019, 08:09:33 AM »
Thanks for the explanations, I guess. :)
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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57121 on: February 04, 2019, 08:11:24 AM »
Considering we have most assuredly already fucked ourselves and condemned the life of this planet to a slow and agonizing, torturous death by gradually worsening weather conditions and dwindling resources an asteroid sounds like nature's attempt at mercy, honestly.
the sweet sweet end of existence :rejoice

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57122 on: February 04, 2019, 08:20:01 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/search/440346/
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User Banned (permanent): trolling over a series of posts, account still in junior phase
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nice try PUTIN

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2020-democratic-presidential-primary-ot-democrats-in-disarray-oh-wait-no-just-tulsis-campaign.91234/post-17533999
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Guys... he has 12 posts!
he tried to warn em like always

BIONIC

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57123 on: February 04, 2019, 08:20:18 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/apex-legends-announced-by-respawn-entertainment-f2p-battle-royale-live-stream-monday-8am-pst.97500/page-12#post-17560201

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Titans were never fun to use or play against. There is a reason neither games ever took off. If they had titans in a BR mode it would have pretty much been dead on arrival. How on earth would they have even balanced that?

Kick his ass, Sea Bass Benji!
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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57124 on: February 04, 2019, 08:23:54 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/apex-legends-announced-by-respawn-entertainment-f2p-battle-royale-live-stream-monday-8am-pst.97500/page-12#post-17560201

Quote from: Zonal Hertz, post: 17560201, member: 44979
Titans were never fun to use or play against. There is a reason neither games ever took off. If they had titans in a BR mode it would have pretty much been dead on arrival. How on earth would they have even balanced that?

Kick his ass, Sea Bass Benji!
No need: 27

Uncle

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57125 on: February 04, 2019, 08:24:09 AM »
Is there a list of filtered words?

taco
cigarillo
distinguished black fellow
nicca
SJW
distinguished mentally-challenged
cheeseburger

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P.S. Word filters are stupid.

P.P.S. Ah, they removed social studies warrior it seems.

"Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger..."

What about milkshake duck

EDIT:  :rejoice

Thanks for the explanations, I guess. :)

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When users are banned on this forum there is no indication of it anywhere except that they aren't in the member list anymore

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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57126 on: February 04, 2019, 08:35:13 AM »
Assimilate isn't really banned, he just reached a higher state of Zen and is now safe from liberal truckers forever.

demi

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57127 on: February 04, 2019, 08:39:09 AM »
While I have been here for a while, there are still some things I don't get about The Bore (aka The Bire).
I saw this guy was banned: http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=45505.msg2565786#msg2565786
Is that a permanent ban, and was it for that post? What exactly *are* the rules for posting here? I mean, unlike in many other forums obviously it's ok to not walk around on eggshells here and to point out idiocy and call out others for it. Which is good, because it's more grown up and basically self-regulatory.

Secondly, why is there a word filter (though I haven't encountered it yet)? I take it that's just an inside joke? Is there a list of filtered words?

Thirdly, is there a topic explaining the history of this place? I would like to know more.

first answer: it is an inside joke from long ago, that person is not banned. probably should be.

second: word filter is an attempt to stifle words that are dumb or annoying. while fun to use, it gets boring to see the same mudflinging caveman language spewed back and forth. at the very least, creativity is encouraged, put some effort into your shitposting.

third: history is pretty cut and dry. this forum has been around since 06. many people here were banned or tired of neogaf (similar to the resetera exodus) dumb as shit moderation and tactics, so we were like, we love shitposting lets do it somewhere else. so we downloaded this amazing piece of forum software and installed it on a pentium 3 PC in willco's garage. life was fun, giggles were had, drama was manufacturered. but then willco found a BBW and left this place after pulling out raw and i took over because the allure of a fat man's leftovers got me so fucking hard. here i am because i'm a [true life: i'm a successful forum administrator] story.

please enjoy your stay, and don't be a piece of shit. not difficult criteria to maintain.
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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57128 on: February 04, 2019, 08:46:51 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/usa-powerlifting-bans-all-trans-women-from-competing-as-women-read-op.97448/page-7#post-17560743

Uhhhh I'm pretty sure this dude wrote this post, thought better of it and edited it out within a couple of minutes, then had it reinstated by a mod so they could ban him...

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57129 on: February 04, 2019, 08:49:44 AM »
User Banned (1 Day) Inappropriate Commentary

Tekken probably has the greatest global arcade market share right now, and probably had it since the nineties but gotta suck that NA dick.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57130 on: February 04, 2019, 08:51:05 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/usa-powerlifting-bans-all-trans-women-from-competing-as-women-read-op.97448/page-7#post-17560743

Uhhhh I'm pretty sure this dude wrote this post, thought better of it and edited it out within a couple of minutes, then had it reinstated by a mod so they could ban him...
mmmmm also "ignoring the mod post" isn't in the new ban reasons :delicious

HaughtyFrank

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57131 on: February 04, 2019, 08:53:47 AM »
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Males are born physically stronger than females. Are we arguing against this fact?
Provide evidence for this “fact”, you liar.

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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57132 on: February 04, 2019, 08:54:54 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-hold-any-resentment-for-the-fact-that-things-you-were-made-fun-of-liking-before-are-cool-now.97428/

this thread :lol

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Yeah, nerds, you were picked on because you were nerds, you fuckin nerd ass nerds. Eat a dick, both of you. You both have this idea that everyone who was bullied or picked on was some nerded out weirdo who made their obsession their everything, meanwhile I was one of many kids who got picked on, beat up and attacked just for liking role playing games or being in drama. We had a fucking wrestling team break in the doors to the theatre while we were rehearsing, because SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS. Nice to know the attitude is still that getting picked on is my fault, 20 years later.

VomKriege

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57133 on: February 04, 2019, 09:06:16 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-hold-any-resentment-for-the-fact-that-things-you-were-made-fun-of-liking-before-are-cool-now.97428/

this thread :lol

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Yeah, nerds, you were picked on because you were nerds, you fuckin nerd ass nerds. Eat a dick, both of you. You both have this idea that everyone who was bullied or picked on was some nerded out weirdo who made their obsession their everything, meanwhile I was one of many kids who got picked on, beat up and attacked just for liking role playing games or being in drama. We had a fucking wrestling team break in the doors to the theatre while we were rehearsing, because SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS. Nice to know the attitude is still that getting picked on is my fault, 20 years later.

The Bore usual response :
:umad

Era usual response :

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Seems you are the bully now though, and homophobic to boot?
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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57134 on: February 04, 2019, 09:06:36 AM »
i think KSweeley deliberately makes titles as long as he can as a "silent" protest against the forum designs broken table, all his threads on the first two pages are like this

HaughtyFrank

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57135 on: February 04, 2019, 09:09:51 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-hold-any-resentment-for-the-fact-that-things-you-were-made-fun-of-liking-before-are-cool-now.97428/

this thread :lol

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Yeah, nerds, you were picked on because you were nerds, you fuckin nerd ass nerds. Eat a dick, both of you. You both have this idea that everyone who was bullied or picked on was some nerded out weirdo who made their obsession their everything, meanwhile I was one of many kids who got picked on, beat up and attacked just for liking role playing games or being in drama. We had a fucking wrestling team break in the doors to the theatre while we were rehearsing, because SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS. Nice to know the attitude is still that getting picked on is my fault, 20 years later.

So he was beat up for being a nerd?

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57136 on: February 04, 2019, 09:10:43 AM »
the fuck?




also, :lol

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I am. As a cis male, I am.

BABIES ARE NOT BORN WITH ANY DISTINGUISHING STRENGTH CHARACTERISTICS.

I realize I may seem like splitting hairs, but have you ever SEEN a baby? Again, hormones around puberty start defining the extra muscle mass guys accumulate in adolescence. Again, read the studies in the OP.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57137 on: February 04, 2019, 09:12:11 AM »
secret good part about that resentment thread is the OP getting increasingly angry at people dismissing his premise

HaughtyFrank

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57138 on: February 04, 2019, 09:14:19 AM »
the fuck?

(Image removed from quote.)

Of course his friend is wrong. He transitioned into male privilege. He needs to shut up and listen

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57139 on: February 04, 2019, 09:14:49 AM »

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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57141 on: February 04, 2019, 09:29:49 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/metro-exodus-devs-interviewed-about-working-conditions-at-4a-games-and-their-crunch-culture-epic-store-release.97562/

lmao at locking this thread after five hours and 64 replies BECAUSE:
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Please do not make threads to promote your own content. If somebody else wants to make a topic that's fine but we do not allow self promotion threads like this.

so now somebody has to see the thread (increasingly unlikely as it falls past the third page) and make a new one on the content to start the discussion all over again

marrec

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57142 on: February 04, 2019, 09:32:40 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/metro-exodus-devs-interviewed-about-working-conditions-at-4a-games-and-their-crunch-culture-epic-store-release.97562/

lmao at locking this thread after five hours and 64 replies BECAUSE:
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Please do not make threads to promote your own content. If somebody else wants to make a topic that's fine but we do not allow self promotion threads like this.

so now somebody has to see the thread (increasingly unlikely as it falls past the third page) and make a new one on the content to start the discussion all over again

Steam ERA is going to get someone to post it, anything to tangentially discredit Epic Games Store.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57143 on: February 04, 2019, 09:34:00 AM »
not surprised you're storefrontphobic to go along with tranmsphobic

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57144 on: February 04, 2019, 09:37:16 AM »
Yeah when your headline study is on the self reported long distance running times of eight people over the course of several years, there is no way that you can state that there is no advantage in powerlifting which is an entirely different sport. There may not be an advantage but it should be evaluated.
great, now they're all over the thread, this is terrible, nice science based discussion is being thrown out because of these sneaky fuckers

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57145 on: February 04, 2019, 09:38:37 AM »
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Like, what about Basketball? Everyone who is over 2m large have an inherent advantage over people who are not as large. Everyone who is over 2,1m have an avantage over those. Guess what: They are still not banned. Because that would be insane and differences in physicality are just an everyday reality. So if a guy is 15 cm taller than another guy, giving him an advantage in playing the sport? Well, that's just the way it is, we can't just forbid him from playing Basketball, can we? That would be crazy!
this is stupid, you're stupid

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It's inane and the thought process only works if you still think that sex and gender are completely binary and every women is comptley the same as every other woman, simply because they have a vagina.
typical incel logic, women are only vaginas

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57146 on: February 04, 2019, 09:40:08 AM »
don't be a piece of shit. not difficult criteria to maintain.


benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57147 on: February 04, 2019, 09:44:35 AM »
Why does ice have any fucking opinion on his persona?

Also he lived there since 12. How would it make what he said fake until proven?
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The discussions in this thread are a good reminder why ICE will get away with literally anything
:lol


benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57149 on: February 04, 2019, 09:51:08 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/this-is-still-the-best-villain-entrance-to-date-rip-smallville-and-the-wb.97599/
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Somebody was paid good gold backed currency for that line, AND went home and slept good that night. Only in America.
You probably post about me on another board.

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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57152 on: February 04, 2019, 10:03:12 AM »
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I'd just Like to say that that mod edit in the OP is fantastic, bless you mods. Glad transphobia is not tolerated on this site
:salute

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57153 on: February 04, 2019, 10:04:07 AM »
So what are the chances that ICE has access to some NSA federal database and some ICEhole decided to check him out after his comments about kids at the border and then decide to do this as retribution?
why would they need a "NSA federal database" rather than their own immigration records ???

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57154 on: February 04, 2019, 10:05:17 AM »
Is this insinuating that POCs can't be TERFS?


(I hate myself for typing that out)

POCs can be white supremacists

So I've noticed a lot of people on my timeline have started using "white supremacy" as a synonym for the Establishment / the Status Quo / Orthodoxy when.... its not the same fucking thing at all.

Like, I'm sure if you made a venn diagram of Hot Button Issues, you'd find White Supremacists in the middle as anti everything, but I'm equally sure you'll find militant Black Supremacists in the anti gay rights / womens independence / trans acceptance overlap circles (and actually in agreement with a number of specific ideals espoused by white supremacists).

The TERF position isn't coming from a place of racial bias, and its baffling to pretend it is, other than I guess saying "I'm fighting WHITE SUPREMACY!" sounds better than "I'm trying to disrupt certain orthodox preconceptions" I guess.
I mean, Apartheid wasn't that fucking long ago guys.

The TERF position is coming from the same place that the blacklivesmatter reluctance to de-emphasise that its about black lives; its a cause that people have fought for on very specific criteria, and are reluctant to see co-opted by people who might broadly align but do not fit that criteria.
I mean, you can disagree with that position, but claiming its something that it isn't is not conducive to discourse or finding agreement on general principles.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57155 on: February 04, 2019, 10:05:32 AM »
i think KSweeley deliberately makes titles as long as he can as a "silent" protest against the forum designs broken table, all his threads on the first two pages are like this
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ibm-ai-developed-food-products-to-launch-mid-2019-ibm-announces-collaboration-with-mccormick-company-for-ai-developed-food-products.97605/
...another one

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57156 on: February 04, 2019, 10:06:38 AM »
Are you sure that defending Shield Hero is the hill you want to die on? Think about this for literally more than one second.
newsfeed

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57157 on: February 04, 2019, 10:08:27 AM »

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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57159 on: February 04, 2019, 10:11:04 AM »
no coke, pepsi

Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57160 on: February 04, 2019, 10:14:42 AM »
If everything was just about hormones, the schlubby-but-strong dude at my gym abusing dianobol, who probably maintains a serum test level to that of a gorilla, would look like Phil Heath.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57161 on: February 04, 2019, 10:15:33 AM »
On the one hand, that 21 savage thread is embarassing how the only UK hip hop you yankees know is Mans Not Hot

on the other hand, the welcome return of Mans Not Hot meme

 :nothot

jorma

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57162 on: February 04, 2019, 10:15:47 AM »
Is this insinuating that POCs can't be TERFS?


(I hate myself for typing that out)

POCs can be white supremacists

So I've noticed a lot of people on my timeline have started using "white supremacy" as a synonym for the Establishment / the Status Quo / Orthodoxy when.... its not the same fucking thing at all.

Like, I'm sure if you made a venn diagram of Hot Button Issues, you'd find White Supremacists in the middle as anti everything, but I'm equally sure you'll find militant Black Supremacists in the anti gay rights / womens independence / trans acceptance overlap circles (and actually in agreement with a number of specific ideals espoused by white supremacists).

The TERF position isn't coming from a place of racial bias, and its baffling to pretend it is, other than I guess saying "I'm fighting WHITE SUPREMACY!" sounds better than "I'm trying to disrupt certain orthodox preconceptions" I guess.
I mean, Apartheid wasn't that fucking long ago guys.

The TERF position is coming from the same place that the blacklivesmatter reluctance to de-emphasise that its about black lives; its a cause that people have fought for on very specific criteria, and are reluctant to see co-opted by people who might broadly align but do not fit that criteria.
I mean, you can disagree with that position, but claiming its something that it isn't is not conducive to discourse or finding agreement on general principles.

i mean.. did you read the rest of those tweets that benji posted? "discourse" is probably not ever on the menu here :lol

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57163 on: February 04, 2019, 10:17:14 AM »
i mean.. did you read the rest of those tweets that benji posted? "discourse" is probably not ever on the menu here :lol

yeah, its not the loonies I'm worried about, its the otherwise reasonable folks who've started doing it

marrec

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57164 on: February 04, 2019, 10:19:56 AM »
Is this insinuating that POCs can't be TERFS?


(I hate myself for typing that out)

POCs can be white supremacists

So I've noticed a lot of people on my timeline have started using "white supremacy" as a synonym for the Establishment / the Status Quo / Orthodoxy when.... its not the same fucking thing at all.

Like, I'm sure if you made a venn diagram of Hot Button Issues, you'd find White Supremacists in the middle as anti everything, but I'm equally sure you'll find militant Black Supremacists in the anti gay rights / womens independence / trans acceptance overlap circles (and actually in agreement with a number of specific ideals espoused by white supremacists).

The TERF position isn't coming from a place of racial bias, and its baffling to pretend it is, other than I guess saying "I'm fighting WHITE SUPREMACY!" sounds better than "I'm trying to disrupt certain orthodox preconceptions" I guess.
I mean, Apartheid wasn't that fucking long ago guys.

The TERF position is coming from the same place that the blacklivesmatter reluctance to de-emphasise that its about black lives; its a cause that people have fought for on very specific criteria, and are reluctant to see co-opted by people who might broadly align but do not fit that criteria.
I mean, you can disagree with that position, but claiming its something that it isn't is not conducive to discourse or finding agreement on general principles.

I was just replying to Cauliflower helping to clear up they're misunderstanding.

On the topic of TERF = White Supremacy, it's certainly possible that trans-exclusion could lead one toward white supremacist groups because they truck in some of the same ideology, but they are not one in the same at all and I'd imagine that most TERFs would be vehemently against the idea of a white ethnostate.

However, the status quo as a stand in for white supremacy isn't weird considering... white supremacy is the status quo in America. People conflating the two is natural.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57165 on: February 04, 2019, 10:20:47 AM »
ERA MODS, PLEASE UPDATE THE INAPPROPRIATE COMMENTARY LIST, THIS IS ANOTHER YOU CAN CONNECT WITH PERSONALLY:

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57166 on: February 04, 2019, 10:23:17 AM »

jorma

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57167 on: February 04, 2019, 10:24:01 AM »
Is this insinuating that POCs can't be TERFS?


(I hate myself for typing that out)

POCs can be white supremacists

So I've noticed a lot of people on my timeline have started using "white supremacy" as a synonym for the Establishment / the Status Quo / Orthodoxy when.... its not the same fucking thing at all.

Like, I'm sure if you made a venn diagram of Hot Button Issues, you'd find White Supremacists in the middle as anti everything, but I'm equally sure you'll find militant Black Supremacists in the anti gay rights / womens independence / trans acceptance overlap circles (and actually in agreement with a number of specific ideals espoused by white supremacists).

The TERF position isn't coming from a place of racial bias, and its baffling to pretend it is, other than I guess saying "I'm fighting WHITE SUPREMACY!" sounds better than "I'm trying to disrupt certain orthodox preconceptions" I guess.
I mean, Apartheid wasn't that fucking long ago guys.

The TERF position is coming from the same place that the blacklivesmatter reluctance to de-emphasise that its about black lives; its a cause that people have fought for on very specific criteria, and are reluctant to see co-opted by people who might broadly align but do not fit that criteria.
I mean, you can disagree with that position, but claiming its something that it isn't is not conducive to discourse or finding agreement on general principles.

I was just replying to Cauliflower helping to clear up they're misunderstanding.

On the topic of TERF = White Supremacy, it's certainly possible that trans-exclusion could lead one toward white supremacist groups because they truck in some of the same ideology, but they are not one in the same at all and I'd imagine that most TERFs would be vehemently against the idea of a white ethnostate.

However, the status quo as a stand in for white supremacy isn't weird considering... white supremacy is the status quo in America. People conflating the two is natural.

not really, white surpremacist groups are heavily male dominated and TERFS are women that hate men so fucking much they aren't gonna let a single one get away by becoming a woman. they aren't trucking in the same ideology at all.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57168 on: February 04, 2019, 10:25:29 AM »
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Free 21
Abolish ICE

for a supposedly "progressive" forum a lot of y'all are missing the point here
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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57169 on: February 04, 2019, 10:27:12 AM »
"clear things up" by posting stupid shit.

:lol

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57170 on: February 04, 2019, 10:28:24 AM »
If there’s anything frivolous I’ve learned from transitioning, it’s why women’s and men’s sports are divided. My baseline strength is pathetic now, to the point that I’m legitimately worried about mens’ ability to throw me around at their convenience.
wtf another one, i'm no doctor, but you are seriously doing something wrong ladies

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57171 on: February 04, 2019, 10:29:19 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/usa-powerlifting-bans-all-trans-women-from-competing-as-women-read-op.97448/post-17563566
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MODS, REVERT THIS POST PLS AND BAN

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that study shows there's still a chance they will have the genetic advantage that a ciswoman couldn't have possibly achieved naturally.
GET THIS ONE TOO PLS

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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57172 on: February 04, 2019, 10:34:01 AM »
However, the status quo as a stand in for white supremacy isn't weird considering... white supremacy is the status quo in America. People conflating the two is natural.

I mean, I'm not gonna go balls deep on this one because I'm not american, I don't live in america, and I haven't been to america since george dubya was president, but equating americas unique cocktail of social issues to being a white supremacist state reeks to me of first world problems while there are still currently regimes actively pursuing ethnic cleansing

marrec

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57173 on: February 04, 2019, 10:35:02 AM »
Is this insinuating that POCs can't be TERFS?


(I hate myself for typing that out)

POCs can be white supremacists

So I've noticed a lot of people on my timeline have started using "white supremacy" as a synonym for the Establishment / the Status Quo / Orthodoxy when.... its not the same fucking thing at all.

Like, I'm sure if you made a venn diagram of Hot Button Issues, you'd find White Supremacists in the middle as anti everything, but I'm equally sure you'll find militant Black Supremacists in the anti gay rights / womens independence / trans acceptance overlap circles (and actually in agreement with a number of specific ideals espoused by white supremacists).

The TERF position isn't coming from a place of racial bias, and its baffling to pretend it is, other than I guess saying "I'm fighting WHITE SUPREMACY!" sounds better than "I'm trying to disrupt certain orthodox preconceptions" I guess.
I mean, Apartheid wasn't that fucking long ago guys.

The TERF position is coming from the same place that the blacklivesmatter reluctance to de-emphasise that its about black lives; its a cause that people have fought for on very specific criteria, and are reluctant to see co-opted by people who might broadly align but do not fit that criteria.
I mean, you can disagree with that position, but claiming its something that it isn't is not conducive to discourse or finding agreement on general principles.

I was just replying to Cauliflower helping to clear up they're misunderstanding.

On the topic of TERF = White Supremacy, it's certainly possible that trans-exclusion could lead one toward white supremacist groups because they truck in some of the same ideology, but they are not one in the same at all and I'd imagine that most TERFs would be vehemently against the idea of a white ethnostate.

However, the status quo as a stand in for white supremacy isn't weird considering... white supremacy is the status quo in America. People conflating the two is natural.

not really, white surpremacist groups are heavily male dominated and TERFS are women that hate men so fucking much they aren't gonna let a single one get away by becoming a woman. they aren't trucking in the same ideology at all.

The same ideology of exclusion. One can necessarily lead to another if you are immersing yourself in the wrong places.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57174 on: February 04, 2019, 10:46:11 AM »
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Seems like the best way to do this is get rid of gender based sports and instead base it on their weight and other measurable attributes.
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Honestly before reading the articles I was of the belief they had an inherent advantage and was skeptical.
Based on the data I see no harm in allowing trans to compete in there chosen fields.
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Its clear that more research needs to be done but until its proven one way or another inclusion seems the only sensible option.
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The default answer should be to let everybody compete and figure things out from there.
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Or they could just allow women to compete with women. If it's as obvious as some of you make out it is then all the trans women will rise the top of their respective sports right? Then there will be a clear evidence base to work with.
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I rather let trans folk be let in, and then after some time when enough and concrete data is had, make a decision whether segregating trans folk is warranted.
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The question is, what to do or don’t do while all the sports associations figures out the new rules. A BAN is not a rule, is a lack of trying. Not doing anything is not that good either.
what's with all these men posting what they'd let women do? why are they not shutting up and listening to what the women decide, whatever it may be?

this is why packs of women are leaving in trams

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57175 on: February 04, 2019, 10:55:24 AM »
Quote from: Gender: Male
Seems like the best way to do this is get rid of gender based sports and instead base it on their weight and other measurable attributes.
Quote from: Gender: Male
Honestly before reading the articles I was of the belief they had an inherent advantage and was skeptical.
Based on the data I see no harm in allowing trans to compete in there chosen fields.
Quote from: Gender: Male
Its clear that more research needs to be done but until its proven one way or another inclusion seems the only sensible option.
Quote from: Gender: Male
The default answer should be to let everybody compete and figure things out from there.
Quote from: Gender: Male
Or they could just allow women to compete with women. If it's as obvious as some of you make out it is then all the trans women will rise the top of their respective sports right? Then there will be a clear evidence base to work with.
Quote from: Gender: Male
I rather let trans folk be let in, and then after some time when enough and concrete data is had, make a decision whether segregating trans folk is warranted.
Quote from: Gender: Male
The question is, what to do or don’t do while all the sports associations figures out the new rules. A BAN is not a rule, is a lack of trying. Not doing anything is not that good either.
what's with all these men posting what they'd let women do? why are they not shutting up and listening to what the women decide, whatever it may be?

this is why packs of women are leaving in trams

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GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57176 on: February 04, 2019, 10:57:48 AM »
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Resetera policy is that anyone concern posting about genetic advantages by transgender women in competitive sports or claiming transgender women have genetic advantages will be treated as transphobia and/or spreading misinformation on a sensitive issue and moderated appropriately.


Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57177 on: February 04, 2019, 10:59:19 AM »


Official staff communication about staff communication.

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57178 on: February 04, 2019, 10:59:29 AM »

marrec

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Re: Other Forums |OT| The Desperation For Outrage
« Reply #57179 on: February 04, 2019, 11:00:15 AM »
It's simply anti-science to quote a single poorly concepted and executed study as the definitive answer to this question, I can't post that though because it would be "concern trolling" and I'd be banned :-/

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