Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/help-me-solve-a-debate-is-paying-to-keep-commissioned-hentai-weird.339604/

 

Paying for porn.

[Transhuman]

against all logic and reason I subjected myself to scrolling through a few hundred posts of the neogaf cyberpunk ot and they're literally just hyping for the game, it's not some opposite world where they're excited about all the transphobia

Yeah but surely the quality of the people you surround yourself with when you post on Gaf would give someone pause if they believe in equality like Black Chamber said he did. Unless he really was every bit of a "troll" as they said he was on ResetEra, in which case I suppose he didn't just trick ResetEra but anyone who thought he was sincere, myself included.

[joeboy101]

against all logic and reason I subjected myself to scrolling through a few hundred posts of the neogaf cyberpunk ot and they're literally just hyping for the game, it's not some opposite world where they're excited about all the transphobia

Yeah but surely the quality of the people you surround yourself with when you post on Gaf would give someone pause if they believe in equality like Black Chamber said he did. Unless he really was every bit of a "troll" as they said he was on ResetEra, in which case I suppose he didn't just trick ResetEra but anyone who thought he was sincere, myself included.

Gotta agree with you. If I get banned from REEE, even for bullshit, it wouldn’t be worth the temporary anger outlet to run to there. The people you would be rubbing elbows with....

[paprikastaude]

tbf if you want another classic style forum, you don't have much choice these days. I only came here like a peasant when GAF died, because when I searched alternatives prior google only gave you random nazi troll sites called neofag etc. On the other hand, it's not like I signed up anywhere like that  Guess now you could also go to that metacouncil, even though it looks more dead than here.

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/help-me-solve-a-debate-is-paying-to-keep-commissioned-hentai-weird.339604/

 

Paying for porn.

It's called hentai, and it's art.

[SmokyDave]

I just noticed that Era is plastered with Cyberpunk ads for me (GeForce RTX ad). Bad optics man.

against all logic and reason I subjected myself to scrolling through a few hundred posts of the neogaf cyberpunk ot and they're literally just hyping for the game, it's not some opposite world where they're excited about all the transphobia

Yeah but surely the quality of the people you surround yourself with when you post on Gaf would give someone pause if they believe in equality like Black Chamber said he did. Unless he really was every bit of a "troll" as they said he was on ResetEra, in which case I suppose he didn't just trick ResetEra but anyone who thought he was sincere, myself included.

This is where I think we see different things. He's not 'surrounded' by anyone unless he goes out of his way to scour every contentious political thread on the site. He'll be 'surrounded' by people playing and discussing a videogame.

On that note, I know we see some real 'holy shit' stuff from GAF on here (JordanN stands out), but from casually browsing the place this morning it really doesn't leap out as the defining trait of the forum. Even the 'fuck reset' thread has people sincerely posting 'trans rights are human rights' and calling others out for using 'cheeseburger'. To be honest, it looks mentally healthier than reset from a quick browse.

Maybe I'm just acclimatised to the hostile lunacy of Era so anything approaching a two-way conversation impresses me. I dunno.

[Uncle]

tbf if you want another classic style forum, you don't have much choice these days. I only came here like a peasant when GAF died, because when I searched alternatives prior google only gave you random nazi troll sites called neofag etc. On the other hand, it's not like I signed up anywhere like that  Guess now you could also go to that metacouncil, even though it looks more dead than here.

oh hey durante is over there in the cyberpunk thread 





anyway there are lots of bores out there with tight knit communities, many aren't easily searchable unless you already know about them

a while back in this thread I remember we stumbled across https://www.rllmukforum.com/ which is the shelbyville to gaf's springfield

[Joe Molotov]

I just noticed that Era is plastered with Cyberpunk ads for me (GeForce RTX ad). Bad optics man.

 

[paprikastaude]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/polygon-it-sucks-that-cyberpunk-2077’s-edgelord-marketing-worked-so-well.339637/page-4

if you venture outside the ERA bubble american-driven right of center neoliberalism is super common and the socialist/progressive politics of places like ERA are essentially fringe. there is no point in fighting the current on this for your AAA videogame so CDPR is taking the path of least resistance by making cyberpunk into a surface level thing with winks to the reactionaries in the online marketing.

The ERA socialist politics of shilling for conglomerates 24/7, demonizing Bernie voters and banning everyone who critizes hardcore neoliberalism for hiding behind cheap identity politics.

They really are the other side of the trumpster idiot coin. But they might even be more stupid, because trumpers at least have enough self-awareness to understand why they are hated, which is why they lie at the polls.

[ringlow]

I'm still not banned on neogaf

[MMaRsu]

Lmao they made a thread about that garbage polygon article and are continueing the bitching in there

[Joe Molotov]

I'm not banned on NeoGAF or Resetera.

[SmokyDave]

Lmao they made a thread about that garbage polygon article and are continueing the bitching in there

https://www.resetera.com/threads/polygon-it-sucks-that-cyberpunk-2077%E2%80%99s-edgelord-marketing-worked-so-well.339637/page-4#post-53381278

Gonna threadmark you for support. Also, for everyone saying that "You can separate the art from the artist" okay but you still don't have to BUY the game then. Everyone knows how you can play video games without paying for them. Do that and stop putting money in the hands of transphobes and racists.

Get some fucking principles.

"Yeah, this was made by transphobes and racists, but I stole it so it doesn't matter'.

Transera will be rabidly consuming this game as their performative allies create new gamertags lest they be pilloried. Farce.

I don't think you spent much time on NeoGAF if you think a "trans rights are human rights" post represents them well.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ellen-page-inception-juno-etc-is-now-elliot-page.1579745/

If you think COVID denialism is mentally healthy, NeoGAF is your place.   You see endless whining about lockdowns and face masks... even on gaming side.  Outright biggoted posts normally go completely unchallenged there... but sure, every once in a while someone will tell the bigots to stop being bigots with something like that "trans rights are human rights" post.

No, I haven't. I popped in for 10 mins this morning to see how Black Chamber had made his entrance. I'm sure it's a horrible place full of terrible people, but I don't see how that's any different to resetera. The difference is, you don't have to deal with the dickheads in every single topic on GAF. Their gaming threads seem to be about gaming.

[mormapope]

Gaffers are Reset_Liberals (conservative tribalism and bitching fits their style) and Era bitches are Neo_Gapers (social liberalism applied to toys and bitching). Both are a cultimation of 4Chan esque posters that have no perspective on life.

[paprikastaude]

The Bire, hellhole of bothsidism

[headwalk]

If I ever do end up buying the game, such as during a big sale that'll inevitably happen sooner or later, then I'm going to do it in the least harmful way possible and donate an equal or greater amount of money to a better cause than this as a form of compensation for any indirect harm caused.

i love every post like this. please feed me more.

[Averon]

Guys, CP 2077 is being released AND a new Harry Potter trailer from the Game Awards could all be hitting at the same time this Thursday. Can't imagine how TransERA will survive the apocalypse to come.

[headwalk]

Gaffers are Reset_Liberals (conservative tribalism and bitching fits their style) and Era bitches are Neo_Gapers (social liberalism applied to toys and bitching). Both are a cultimation of 4Chan esque posters that have no perspective on life.

i'd disagree with that, 4chan is built on a kind of mutual loathing. it's like ball-busting culture accelerated to its most aspergic extreme and coloured by a counter culture desire to outrage. they actively expect whoever is replying to call them a soi figgurt or whatever, disagreement is almost mandated.

ree isn't that, it's pretending your stance is so morally impeccable that even the slightest hint of arguement is a biggoted act that needs to be immediately actioned for everyone's safety.

[Uncle]

 

[Yulwei]

If I ever do end up buying the game, such as during a big sale that'll inevitably happen sooner or later, then I'm going to do it in the least harmful way possible and donate an equal or greater amount of money to a better cause than this as a form of compensation for any indirect harm caused.

i love every post like this. please feed me more.

  braver than the troops

[SmokyDave]

And you guys greatly exaggerate this about resetera.  I post on resetera, not super often.. but I do.. and the vast majority of it is just people talking about gaming uninterrupted.

Yes there are topics like Cyberpunk where people do try to make it so that the gaming discussion becomes about something else.  The nasty people on NeoGAF aren't doing that.  Instead they are just dropping outright bigotry randomly that goes largely unchallenged.   And while they aren't trying to take over threads they are everywhere, in every topic.. and you never know when you'll come across their comments.

But it's far from every topic on resetera... name one other high profile or even low profile game coming out this holiday that has resetera's ire?  edit: Harry Potter is the only other currently talked about game I can think of.. there's like.. thousands of games a year released though.

NeoGAF consistently turns something like a dev team/company having a woman high up in their ranks into a topic... that's why 343i sucks for instance.. it's the women and the "mentally ill" types (wink wink)

Fair enough man, I'll take your word for it. I'm not trying to run PR for GAF, just saying that what I saw this morning was far less 'toxic' than what I've seen from Reset of late. That's probably down to the tiny amount of GAF browsing I've done, mixed with the louder-than-normal screeching coming from reeee. Maybe they're both shitholes of impressive magnitude, maybe one is 'worse' than the other.

Don't know, don't care, will remain a Bore exclusive poster until my seniorforums membership is approved.

[HaughtyFrank]

Guys, CP 2077 is being released AND a new Harry Potter trailer from the Game Awards could all be hitting at the same time this Thursday. Can't imagine how TransERA will survive the apocalypse to come.

My heart goes out to transera who truly have the most miserable life in the world

[paprikastaude]

The difference is, you don't have to deal with the dickheads in every single topic on GAF. Their gaming threads seem to be about gaming.

And you guys greatly exaggerate this about resetera.  I post on resetera, not super often.. but I do.. and the vast majority of it is just people talking about gaming uninterrupted.

Yes there are topics like Cyberpunk where people do try to make it so that the gaming discussion becomes about something else.  The nasty people on NeoGAF aren't doing that.  Instead they are just dropping outright bigotry randomly that goes largely unchallenged.   And while they aren't trying to take over threads they are everywhere, in every topic.. and you never know when you'll come across their comments.

But it's far from every topic on resetera... name one other high profile or even low profile game coming out this holiday that has resetera's ire?  edit: Harry Potter is the only other currently talked about game I can think of.. there's like.. thousands of games a year released though.

NeoGAF consistently turns something like a dev team/company having a woman high up in their ranks into a topic... that's why 343i sucks for instance.. it's the women and the "mentally ill" types (wink wink)

In the goblin's shower you are technically sorrounded by deficient rednecks when you talk about games. But on resetti you are technically sorrounded by sickos who'd genuinely, literally wish ill and horrible things upon you, if they found out you also post on other internet forums like here; or anywhere else where people discuss the biggest videogame of the year without equating it to concentration camps, because - and let's be real, that's the actual problem - it features titties prominently.

[ShutUp]

CDPR seeing their marketing for the game described as edgelord is exactly what they want. The Cyberpunk genre edgy? No way! Rather have the upfront and fun approach about it than the "we are marking ART!" shit we see from some other big releases.

[Ghoul]

Well that was quite the catchup in this thread. WW3 started and I missed it

[Tasty]

I can't fucking wait for CP to be declared ineligible for Reeee's GOTY.

I can't wait for it to win.

[Ghoul]

apparently reviews come up in like 30 mins!
 

[Tasty]

I'm not banned on NeoGAF or Resetera.

Same technically.

[thetylerrob]

I only actively lurk one community thread on nazigaf but in my experience they only break out into full blown  every 5 pages or so and they're easily shut up by other posters telling them to stfu about politics.
Their gaming threads can be better because they don't dogpile and ban the people that don't want to talk politics.

[Ghoul]

I read the other communities thread after seeing that chamber had gone over there.

Thread seemed alright anyone being a proper dick was told to shut up pretty quickly and someone using a slur was instantly told to shut up too,

I won't be going there all the time though as I can only deal with one shit thread and you're all unfortunate enough to be the one I use....

[Yulwei]

I'll be laughing my ass off if this game will get 90+ after all the concern trolling going on over the internet and this site

https://www.resetera.com/threads/only-a-limited-number-of-websites-have-received-a-review-code-for-cyberpunk-2077-dont-expect-a-lot-of-reviews-on-launch-day.338674/page-11#post-53388568


Flying dangerously close to the sun there. Someone might read that and take it as an attack on the marginalized folx of era

[Nintex]

Should that "review thread" even be open?

Nope going to turn into another hype shitfest

Why is there a review thread? I thought we weren't discussing the game in any new threads for the time being?

 

[Uncle]

[SmokyDave]

That thread and the forum is full of slurs that go unchallenged.   

Here's the end result of that callout:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resetera-discussion-stay-civil-dont-get-personal-keep-it-in-here.1506304/post-261435013

cheeseburger is a fine word. If you want to be word police go to Era.

C'mon man. Don't 'pull an Era'. That was not the end result, and the post you quoted was challenged by other posters after that. There's a bloody great trans flag on the very next page.

My point is this: it's not as black-and-white as you make it sound.

And they use "troon" all the time too.. like the last page of that thread.

Which is messed up, and should also be called out.

[Ghoul]

Thread seemed alright anyone being a proper dick was told to shut up pretty quickly and someone using a slur was instantly told to shut up too,

Maybe the one time this ever happened on modern GAF.

That thread and the forum is full of slurs that go unchallenged.   

Here's the end result of that callout:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resetera-discussion-stay-civil-dont-get-personal-keep-it-in-here.1506304/post-261435013

cheeseburger is a fine word. If you want to be word police go to Era.

And they use "troon" all the time too.. like the last page of that thread.

I totally missed that post, but yeah that shit isn't on when you have Tyler not even 5 posts below giving off a "be nice to trans people" whilst allowing anti trans language just above his.

I literally spent like 10-15 mins on it so I'm not the greatest source to validate if the site is a shit hole or not. I just noticed a couple of examples of other users calling them out for it.

I saw no attempts by mods to do anything, but they ban the account suicides straight away weirdly.

Meanwhile in other news, in the cyberpunk is transphobic thread, they're already talking about HP:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/page-82#post-53387647

Harry Potter Legacy |OT| JK Rowling’s long transphobic and racist legacy

[Don Rumata]

I can't fucking wait for CP to be declared ineligible for Reeee's GOTY.

I can't wait for it to win.

With 2 Sony games on ballot, one from Naughty Dog? 

[Nintex]

Cyberpunk got a 7/10

Lmao 2020 keeps bringing the hits

[Yulwei]

this thread needs a lock

Nope going to turn into another hype shitfest

Should that "review thread" even be open?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/page-82#post-53387947

https://www.resetera.com/threads/only-a-limited-number-of-websites-have-received-a-review-code-for-cyberpunk-2077-dont-expect-a-lot-of-reviews-on-launch-day.338674/page-13#post-53390872

"stop looking forward to things be mentally ill and miserable like me!"

[bork]

As shitty as purple gaf is, it doesn't have outright racists and bigots on it, so yeah, point to them. 

But it's still a shit hole, just in a very different way. 

[SmokyDave]

OK fine it isn't black and white.

You guys reading one thread where people are getting called out for a slur is also not representative of what GAF is like in general.   The multiple people continuing to use the slur after being called out are far more representative of what it's like.

To be honest, I'm not that comfortable arguing against you because I've barely browsed the site. I don't doubt that the pendulum has swung in the other direction because it always does. I'm just struggling to imagine Black Chamber finding GAF a worse experience than that he's already had on Reset. I'm not trying to go to bat for a community that I'm not especially familiar with.

As shitty as purple gaf is, it doesn't have outright racists and bigots on it, so yeah, point to them.

Eh, I disagree with that. Unless you're using 'only institutional racism counts as racism', which I know many do nowadays. As for bigots, it has fucking tons of them.

[Chim Richalds]

As shitty as purple gaf is, it doesn't have outright racists and bigots on it, so yeah, point to them. 

But it's still a shit hole, just in a very different way. 

uhh, hold on a minute...

[bork]

OK fine it isn't black and white.

You guys reading one thread where people are getting called out for a slur is also not representative of what GAF is like in general.   The multiple people continuing to use the slur after being called out are far more representative of what it's like.

To be honest, I'm not that comfortable arguing against you because I've barely browsed the site. I don't doubt that the pendulum has swung in the other direction because it always does. I'm just struggling to imagine Black Chamber finding GAF a worse experience than that he's already had on Reset. I'm not trying to go to bat for a community that I'm not especially familiar with.

Have you checked the politics subforum on there?  That's where a lot of the real nasty shit is.

[bork]

As shitty as purple gaf is, it doesn't have outright racists and bigots on it, so yeah, point to them. 

But it's still a shit hole, just in a very different way. 

uhh, hold on a minute...

Never mind!

[SmokyDave]

OK fine it isn't black and white.

You guys reading one thread where people are getting called out for a slur is also not representative of what GAF is like in general.   The multiple people continuing to use the slur after being called out are far more representative of what it's like.

To be honest, I'm not that comfortable arguing against you because I've barely browsed the site. I don't doubt that the pendulum has swung in the other direction because it always does. I'm just struggling to imagine Black Chamber finding GAF a worse experience than that he's already had on Reset. I'm not trying to go to bat for a community that I'm not especially familiar with.

Have you checked the politics subforum on there?  That's where a lot of the real nasty shit is.

Nah. I try not to go looking for stupid shit when I'm on familiar ground. I've dealt with a lot of people in my life who are classic racists / bigots and they hold no surprises for me. I can't rehabilitate these cats over the net, only in a pub, so I'd rather not read a bunch of slurs and stupid simplistic thinking.

I think that's why I still look at sites like reset. I expect and hope for more from educated lefties so there's always an eyebrow to raise when their thinking leads to 'trendy' racism or bigotry. There's more for me to learn there.

[BikeJesus]

Thread seemed alright anyone being a proper dick was told to shut up pretty quickly and someone using a slur was instantly told to shut up too,

Maybe the one time this ever happened on modern GAF.

That thread and the forum is full of slurs that go unchallenged.   

Here's the end result of that callout:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/resetera-discussion-stay-civil-dont-get-personal-keep-it-in-here.1506304/post-261435013

cheeseburger is a fine word. If you want to be word police go to Era.

And they use "troon" all the time too.. like the last page of that thread.

Well when you want to hurt someone, you use language that you think will have that effect. It's like how era is body and lgbt positive, until someone they don't like is overweight, and then it is ok to call them a fat cocksucker.

I have no problem with trans people, but if one of them was hurling verbal abuse at me, I might just hurl some right back.

[joeboy101]

Cyberpunk got a 7/10

Lmao 2020 keeps bringing the hits

https://opencritic.com/game/8525/cyberpunk-2077/reviews

OpenCritic has it at 90. But already ready a couple of 7/10 reviews that definitely were knives out looking for shit. I don’t care, I’m not a fan of dumping on reviewers, not matter how muddle headed they can be.

[bork]

I think that's why I still look at sites like reset. I expect and hope for more from educated lefties so there's always an eyebrow to raise when their thinking leads to 'trendy' racism or bigotry. There's more for me to learn there.

I've learned a lot about financing Nissan Versas for seven years.

[Uncle]

 

[Ghoul]

they're mad as fuck about cyberpunk daring to have a review thread

So we’re just going to ignore all the transphobic bullshit regarding this game?

We don't need two fucking review threads.

Seems like it... this thread shouldn't even exist.

[Nintex]

Cyberpunk got a 7/10

Lmao 2020 keeps bringing the hits

https://opencritic.com/game/8525/cyberpunk-2077/reviews

OpenCritic has it at 90. But already ready a couple of 7/10 reviews that definitely were knives out looking for shit. I don’t care, I’m not a fan of dumping on reviewers, not matter how muddle headed they can be.

It's more the bugs and story that are weighing it down.
Some reviewers take that into account others sort of look past it.
Those that punish it for the bugs mainly do so because the bugs are everywhere.

Sounds like a great and unique game overall but not 10/10 like Witcher 3 in its current state.

[joeboy101]

they're mad as fuck about cyberpunk daring to have a review thread

So we’re just going to ignore all the transphobic bullshit regarding this game?

We don't need two fucking review threads.

Seems like it... this thread shouldn't even exist.

They just locked the only open one.

[Ghoul]

review thread got locked lmao. They have fun though right?

Staff is currently discussing how Cyberpunk 2077 threads will be handled. Until a decision is made, this thread will be locked.

LMAO. Cyberpunk is breaking these guys, unreal, remember kids Videogame forum.

[joeboy101]

So you can’t even have a CP77 thread there dedicated for live reviews so you can gauge the kind of product being sold.

Amazing.

[paprikastaude]

OK fine it isn't black and white.

You guys reading one thread where people are getting called out for a slur is also not representative of what GAF is like in general.   The multiple people continuing to use the slur after being called out are far more representative of what it's like.

Just search the forum for "cheeseburger" or "Troon" and you will literally see that the callout in that Resetera thread is the only time anyone is arguing it's a word you shouldn't use lol  I searched back 6 pages of "cheeseburger" search results and it's literally the only example.

They are hoping for a resetera exodus and Tyler is doing that "lets appear like we aren't so extreme" thing in that thread, meanwhile the shit he lets fly literally everywhere else on the forum is worse shit.

tbf who cares, no one here is even denying the horrendous people on NuGAF. But your subsequent relativization of resetti is idiotic - even if you want to handwave the Cyberpunk fallout as simple internet drama (although it includes near doxxing). On top of last page is a reminder that resetti had no problem bullying a suicide victim like Etika, because he said a bad word once. Then continue with victim blaming after his death, like with the other youtube guy who died of brain cancer but dared to say sjdoublew several years back.

i.e. resetti equally includes many undeniably sick, heinous morons. Practically a real life version of fucking South Park.



Also I'm no resetti, so I'm not categorizing you for finding that forum okay to post in, but at your bullshit 'exaggeration' argument, while this is not only a shitpost thread, but their insanity couldn't be clearer than right now.

[maninthemirror]

The forum is dead. The biggest game launch of the winter and era toxicity is rampant

[joeboy101]

Staff is re-evaluating how Cyberpunk 2077 threads will be handled. Until a decision is made, this thread will be locked.

I can’t fucking wait.

[maninthemirror]

The transera cult have literally held a gaming forum hostage. 95% of gamers don’t care they want to play the game. Era is killing itself with giving summits and powers and politicizing every game

[Averon]

They are raging that users are even able to talk about the reviews. And they are attacking the mods...again, despite the mods giving into their every demand. 

[Don Rumata]

Cyberpunk got a 7/10

Lmao 2020 keeps bringing the hits

https://opencritic.com/game/8525/cyberpunk-2077/reviews

OpenCritic has it at 90. But already ready a couple of 7/10 reviews that definitely were knives out looking for shit. I don’t care, I’m not a fan of dumping on reviewers, not matter how muddle headed they can be.

It's more the bugs and story that are weighing it down.
Some reviewers take that into account others sort of look past it.
Those that punish it for the bugs mainly do so because the bugs are everywhere.

Sounds like a great and unique game overall but not 10/10 like Witcher 3 in its current state.

W3 was an antfarm on launch. 

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

There goes both review threads