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Oh no, a 22 year old!! lmfao

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/r/rantgrumps is a scuffed version of /r/TheCinemassacreTruth or /r/SamandTolki

[Snoopycat_]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Their idea of power dynamics is so weird. It's not mind control

They're not incels, they're just ethically choosing not to use their male privilege to speak to date women.

Milady.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

When someone says "my partner" do you assume it's a same-sex partner?

My partner" could also just as easily be a non-binary partner too. Assuming they're gay just because they said that is uh... well not great, implication wise.

 

There isn't a gender neutral term, this is something that every latin derived language still has to figure out.
All italians words are gendered, i'm having an hard time finding one that isn't.
This is why a now fairly common meme was born, with words changed to neutral, like "compagnx" where x is whatever you want it to be.

It's spreading!

[joeboy101]

When someone says "my partner" do you assume it's a same-sex partner?

My partner" could also just as easily be a non-binary partner too. Assuming they're gay just because they said that is uh... well not great, implication wise.

 

There isn't a gender neutral term, this is something that every latin derived language still has to figure out.
All italians words are gendered, i'm having an hard time finding one that isn't.
This is why a now fairly common meme was born, with words changed to neutral, like "compagnx" where x is whatever you want it to be.

It's spreading!

 

[HaughtyFrank]

You'd think this is first time a game stars a black character

https://www.resetera.com/threads/forspoken-deathloop-could-mark-a-huge-positive-shift-for-black-characters-developers-in-the-gaming-industry.398470/

[Klelk]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mass-shooting-at-boulder-colorado-grocery-store-10-confirmed-dead-shooter-in-custody.398200/page-8#post-61392547

Our shit government is too afraid to force white people to wear a fucking mask, y'all think they'll really take white people's guns away.

I'm sorry but not sorry if this bothers you, but fuck white people to hell and back. I'm so fucking sick of their shit.

Wonder how the mod captains, lieutenants etc  will handle this

[Transhuman]

It doesn't get any whiter than "Ahmad Alissa".

[Cauliflower Of Love]

voyeour era has been activated

Another useless presser here, unfortunately. Still no real answers, still no motive.

[Klelk]

It doesn't get any whiter than "Ahmad Alissa".

This will be memory holed immediately

[SmokyDave]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/six-days-in-fallujah-gameplay-reveal-trailer.398530/

Reckon this'll end up as a banned game. They get to look all moral and righteous and nobody loses anything because nobody was going to buy the game anyway. Take that, US Military! Now, back to salivating over Marvel films.....

It doesn't get any whiter than "Ahmad Alissa".

All bad people are white, white-adjacent, or white-passing.

Wonder how the mod captains, lieutenants etc  will handle this

They'll ban anyone that takes issue with it. He knows too, that's why when someone replied with 'yikes', he just said 'yikes what?'. There are rules, and they are known.

[HaughtyFrank]

Well, good to know The Daily Beast takes an inclusive approach to this sort of reporting:

"How could this nice boy who lived in this idyllic suburban community with bird feeders and solar panels ever do this because he was so nice and quiet?" is for all colors and creeds of mass shooters now!

Infuriating.

Shouldn't this be a hint that there's actually no sinister intention behind those "he was a quiet boy" statements? Kelly Rowland's made a song about a quiet kid that shoots up a school 20 years ago, goddammit.

It's like he's mad that the Daily Beast isn't racist

[Don Rumata]

When someone says "my partner" do you assume it's a same-sex partner?

My partner" could also just as easily be a non-binary partner too. Assuming they're gay just because they said that is uh... well not great, implication wise.

 

There isn't a gender neutral term, this is something that every latin derived language still has to figure out.
All italians words are gendered, i'm having an hard time finding one that isn't.
This is why a now fairly common meme was born, with words changed to neutral, like "compagnx" where x is whatever you want it to be.

It's spreading!

I mentioned this months ago.

So far it's mostly seen as silly outside of the most clownish "woke" circles, but the gendered nature of the language being a problem, it's starting to become a debate outside of those.

My take is: When real problems are too hard to tackle, you come up with pretend ones to tell yourself you're doing something. 

[Transhuman]

Apparently his brother thinks the shooter may have paranoid schizophrenia. I hope he gets the treatment he needs. It's disgusting how both sides of politics have turned this into a racial thing.

[Don Rumata]

Apparently his brother thinks the shooter may have paranoid schizophrenia. I hope he gets the treatment he needs. It's disgusting how both sides of politics have turned this into a racial thing.

It's basically become a full blown fetish.

[Uncle]

I get that you are frustrated, but saying "fuck (insert any color/race) people" is insultingly generalizing, doesn't help, and honestly shouldn't be allowed on this forum.
But you are not sorry that it bothers anyone, so I guess my post is wasted on you. I just hope one day your heart is healed and you don't have a "fuck this particular group of people" attitude anymore. It's not healthy, friend.

I've been looking all over for a term to describe when someone condemns an entire race of people and I finally found it 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

What's the bet they're not releasing the name of the shooter so they can have every piece of his social media of him scrubbed before they do so?

Whites gotta protect their own.

I'm sorry but not sorry if this bothers you, but fuck white people to hell and back. I'm so fucking sick of their shit.

Man white people truly can't handle being called out..

cool forum

[joeboy101]

What's the bet they're not releasing the name of the shooter so they can have every piece of his social media of him scrubbed before they do so?

Whites gotta protect their own.

I'm sorry but not sorry if this bothers you, but fuck white people to hell and back. I'm so fucking sick of their shit.

Man white people truly can't handle being called out..

cool forum

https://www.resetera.com/threads/socialism-ot-the-dawn-of-a-red-era.585/post-61400479

Looks like I'm probably getting banned again. I called white people shitty. Oh well, see y'all in a couple of weeks.

Yeah, chief. That’s why you MIGHT catch a ban.

 

[Nintex]

I have no doubt that the conservative news outlets are going to shift their narrative now.

Yep this is the real issue

[HaughtyFrank]

Man white people truly can't handle being called out..

This is such a dumb statement. Like which race can handle being called out? Does it even make sense to call out a race?

[SmokyDave]

I feel like it shouldn’t be hard to ban outright racial prejudice whilst still allowing people to throw text-rocks at white people and systems of power with impunity. They don’t even seem to recognise ignorant prejudice though, it’s all just lumped in as the justifiable grievance of the marginalised.

Why are white people even being dragged in that thread? Is the shooter even white? Is there any white supremacism in his motives?

It’s unhealthy and ought to be mildly dampened.

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There's a difference between directing your hate at minorities as opposed to white people.

Yes there is, but they’re both counter-productive, hateful, and ignorant. You dopey fuck.

[daycru]

When you think the shooter is white: “Fuck all white people. Ya’ll a bunch of demons from hell!”
When you know the shooter isn’t white: “I pray for the (insert minority) community that they will be protected from white violence


Sick!

[HaughtyFrank]

Everyone political really adjusting their playbook as soon as the name got out

[Nintex]

I feel like it shouldn’t be hard to ban outright racial prejudice whilst still allowing people to throw text-rocks at white people and systems of power with impunity. They don’t even seem to recognise ignorant prejudice though, it’s all just lumped in as the justifiable grievance of the marginalised.

Why are white people even being dragged in that thread? Is the shooter even white? Is there any white supremacism in his motives?

It’s unhealthy and ought to be mildly dampened.

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There's a difference between directing your hate at minorities as opposed to white people.

Yes there is, but they’re both counter-productive, hateful, and ignorant. You dopey fuck.

Sick of your shit whitey     

Sit down and listen for once this is not about you

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mass-shooting-at-boulder-colorado-grocery-store-10-confirmed-dead-shooter-in-custody.398200/page-10#post-61403656

[Jansen]

Remember on ree racism against white people doesn't exist

[Nintex]

Remember on ree racism against white people doesn't exist

Fixed that for you

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mass-shooting-at-boulder-colorado-grocery-store-10-confirmed-dead-shooter-in-custody.398200/page-10#post-61405057

Aight, this is pretty trash.



Quit telling people of color how to react to white supremacy.



If it don’t apply, let it fly. We all understand exactly who that poster is sick off.

[Uncle]

Man white people truly can't handle being called out..

This is such a dumb statement. Like which race can handle being called out? Does it even make sense to call out a race?

if every issue surrounding china for example has to be sugarcoated, couched in delicate phrasing, or else met with unanimous support, wouldn't that point to some level of asian fragility?

"I know most people just take this stuff in stride, take it on the chin, but I just can't deal with that level of criticism"
 

[Uncle]

whenever anything like this happen era immediately goes "this sick fuck is only alive because he's white, they would never take a minority into custody they would just gun them down"

and then on the rare occasion it turns out to be a minority assailant, the rhetoric is just quietly abandoned

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/six-days-in-fallujah-a-tale-of-victimizing-war-criminals.398656/

We've seen all the talk about six days in Fallujah being the most accurate depiction of war and what the innocent marines have to go through. Looks good right? Then why the hell are some 'WOKE' people trying to cancel the game. Why are they attacking our right to free speech? Well, enter this house gingerbread, cake, and pastries and you'll know the person feeding you cookies is the real witch.



A Brief History

To understand the problem with the game it is paramount to understand the real life events. In 2002, the Bush administration along with UK and other allies decided to launch an operation on Iraq. The premise of the attack was simple, Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction (coming from two nuclear powers) and that the government was supporting Al-Qaeda. In March of 2003 an operation was launched and by 1st of May "major combat operations" ended. One of the mightiest military in the history of mankind was assembled to complete the task. Over 177,000 American led coalition troops were sent to neutralize the government and give back power to Iraqis. The coalition would later form a transitional government to restore order in the country.



The Problem

The problem starts with the premise. The coalition spread lies about Iraq's access to WMDs. The claims were later debunked as the coalition failed to find any evidence of WMDs. Coalition's claim of Iraq sponsoring Al-Qaeda were also debunked by various reports.  The 9/11 Commission concluded that "to date we have seen no evidence that these or the earlier contacts ever developed into a collaborative operational relationship. To make matters worse, the transitional government failed to restore order which would later result in the creation of ISIS. The war also gave birth to sectarian violence in the region.

While it is very hard to get an accurate estimate of civilian casualties, some efforts have been made. As per Iraq Body Count around 185,593 – 208,667 have lost their lives due to this invasion. Other reports suggest that over 600,000 people died due to the war.

The war has been categorically declared illegal.



What happened in Fallujah?

A lot of things happened but I'll try to share some. On 28th of April, 2003, Americans opened fire on some 200 civilians who had violated a curfew they had imposed. This resulted in the death of some 17 civilians and wounded more than 70 others. Human rights watch has confirmed the event. US would later reestablish their control over the city and for that they would use white phosphorus. Now the use of white phosphorus based incendiaries on people is considered illegal. Surprisingly, they had called out the Iraqi government in 1991 over the use of white phosphorus. The US forces would also kill 100s of innocent civilians and children which they defended by saying that civilians were given enough time to evacuate the city (men of fighting age were stopped). In the two battles of Fallujah around 1200 civilians were killed. Overall since the start of war on terror, over 7000 civilians have lost their lives.



So what's the Problem with six days in Fallujah?

The problem in game stems from its chosen narrative perspective. The game promises to deliver an authentic account of the events in Fallujah, however, it portrays the marines (the murderers, war criminals) as the innocents who had to endure such a hard time. The game trailers use these real life america's got talent style interviews to give you a very personal perspective. The interviewees have these watery eyes to make us sympathize with them. Mate, these are the killers. Why do you want us to feel sorry for them?? The game trailers actively portray the americans as the liberators when we know that's not the case. The entire damn war was illegal to begin with. As stated by Peter Tamte, founder and CEO, defended the studio saying "this generation showed great sacrifice and courage in Iraq as remarkable as any in history" Aaaa no? The US forces killed civilians in Fallujah, there is nothing remarkable in that.



The game actively claims that it's trying to tell you what it feels to be in Fallujah, but it puts a veil on the monstrosities that were committed by the military. As Tamte said,  "Six Days in Fallujah is not about whether the US and its allies should have invaded Iraq." How can you not discuss something so critical? But it gets worse,

“Just as that [Marine] cannot second-guess the choices by the policymakers, we’re not trying to make a political commentary about whether or not the war itself was a good or a bad idea.” The entire war was wrong, its premise, its execution, post war everything. How can you not think about the REAL victims of the war before you ask us to sympathize with war criminals? But wait they want us to think about people, but in a way that keeps the image of the marines upright, “There are things that divide us, and including those really divisive things, I think, distracts people from the human stories that we can all identify with,” Tamte said. It gets worse. White phosphorus, that illegal thing, ya, its not in the game and his reason for not including in the game is because the marines didn't confess using them. LIKE WTF? Use google goddamnit.



Why the hate?

This game isn't about an accurate depiction. This game isn't about telling you the real events of Fallujah. The sole purpose of the game is to alter the mainstream perception of the events. Many people who play this game might not know what happened in Fallujah, they might not have researched it or they might have not been born when everything was going down. This will be their history book. For the longest time games like COD have used references to mask history. It is perfectly possible that when you mention highway of death people think about that COD mission where "evil Russians" wreak havoc and not the highway that was bombed to shit by the coalition forces. However, 6 days in fallujah takes things a step further. By choosing what to tell and what not to tell, and how to tell, they mask the war crimes committed by the marines. It is an attempt to change history. The plan is simple, repeat the lie so many times that everyone believes it's the truth. This isn't free speech, this is injustice to the victims of the war. The developers have a responsibility to accurately depict the events and if they can't for any reason then they should just quite the development.



The worst thing is that there are more sympathizers of marines then there are people who would make the effort to understand everything. The idea of this game doing good in sales (perfectly plausible) makes me sick. Who knows this game becomes such a massive hit that it starts getting yearly installments with each trying to mask another massacre.



Take a moment and try to put yourself in the shoes of the poor souls of Fallujah. Think about it. First you are invaded, kicked out and killed, and then movies and games are made showing how difficult it was for the invaders. Take a moment, think about their pain. First they suffered physically, and now they'll suffer mentally. I end this piece with a quote from a Tamte's GIbiz interview,



“Very few people are curious what it's like to be an Iraqi civilian. Nobody's going to play that game. But people are curious what it's like to be in combat.”

[killamajig]

whenever anything like this happen era immediately goes "this sick fuck is only alive because he's white, they would never take a minority into custody they would just gun them down"

and then on the rare occasion it turns out to be a minority assailant, the rhetoric is just quietly abandoned

That's why prisons are full of just white people.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Everyone political really adjusting their playbook as soon as the name got out

which, REALLY, should make people take a fucking second to realise their bias, if they're jumping straight into the topic with hot take about cop coverups for yt then instantly shifting gears into how shitty other people are doing a u-turn when the facts come out.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

if every issue surrounding china for example has to be sugarcoated, couched in delicate phrasing, or else met with unanimous support, wouldn't that point to some level of asian fragility?

"I know most people just take this stuff in stride, take it on the chin, but I just can't deal with that level of criticism"
 

Or getting super about an in-universe description in Cyberpunk about one type of car being involved in a disproportionately high number of accidents, because they thought it just had to be a dog whistle about one particular skin colours (USA, obvs.) crime statistics.

[BikeJesus]

whenever anything like this happen era immediately goes "this sick fuck is only alive because he's white, they would never take a minority into custody they would just gun them down"

and then on the rare occasion it turns out to be a minority assailant, the rhetoric is just quietly abandoned

FACT CHECK:

Killers skin was white enough that he didn't get shot immediately.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mass-shooting-at-boulder-colorado-grocery-store-10-confirmed-dead-shooter-in-custody.398200/post-61405831

[Joe Molotov]

You'd think this is first time a game stars a black character

https://www.resetera.com/threads/forspoken-deathloop-could-mark-a-huge-positive-shift-for-black-characters-developers-in-the-gaming-industry.398470/

Black people in a Japanese games!!!!!!!(written by Gary Whitta)

[NekoFever]

Mass shooting

“Fucking white people and their guns.”

Shooter isn’t white

“Fucking white people.”

 

[Transhuman]

[benjipwns]

yts real upset in this thread I see over facts being said

meanwhile, THIS:

What's the bet they're not releasing the name of the shooter so they can have every piece of his social media of him scrubbed before they do so?

[benjipwns]

Fucking posturing. Joe, you’re the fucking President. You’re the one who gets that fucking process moving. Get off Twitter and fucking work.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Fucking posturing.

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Joe

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you’re the fucking President. You’re the one who gets that fucking process moving. Get off Twitter and fucking work.

While we’re at it, someone go kick Ted Cruz in the fucking ass too. That’s a job that really needs doing.

[Transhuman]

yts real upset in this thread I see over facts being said

meanwhile, THIS:

What's the bet they're not releasing the name of the shooter so they can have every piece of his social media of him scrubbed before they do so?

You should ask him if he'll still take that bet

[Joe Molotov]

Fucking posturing. Joe, you’re the fucking President. You’re the one who gets that fucking process moving. Get off Twitter and fucking work.

Look at all the whites rushing in to defend Biden in that thread. Whites gonna protect their own.

[benjipwns]

Ah, the middle age white male shooter.

         User Banned (1 Week): Spreading Misinformation in a Pandemic?
 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

like you said, “I shouldn’t really have to point out” the nuance present within a phrase like “fuck white people”

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

White fragility out in full force ITT, hate to see it.

Useless, vitriolic crap like that becomes especially egregious when you consider every single victim in this shooting is white.

[Propagandhim]

American gun culture is disgusting and pathetic. it's a collection of toddlers afraid that mommy and daddy are going to come take their favorite toys away. Only I have more respect for petulant toddlers because at least their toys weren't designed specifically to rip holes through fellow human beings.

Deep af

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

American gun culture is disgusting and pathetic. it's a collection of toddlers afraid that mommy and daddy are going to come take their favorite toys away. Only I have more respect for petulant toddlers because at least their toys weren't designed specifically to rip holes through fellow human beings.

Deep af

whoever wrote that has never trod on a lego barefoot

[Propagandhim]

American gun culture ?  it like poopoo and peepee.  When the peepee has to come out of the weiner you like oh noo i gotta pee pee so bad but then i want to poopoo too! and maybe i will poopoo (not sure) but my weiener really want to peepee right now.  when will the politicians do something about guns in this disgusting zeitgeist culture

[Jansen]

Remember on ree racism against white people doesn't exist

Fixed that for you

 

[Uncle]

[Straight Edge]

White supremacy is more than willing to let white people die in service of its goals. See for example the experiences of poor white folks who get too close to Blackness to be protected by their own

 

So white supremacy protects whites except when it doesn't because they're basically black?

Schrodinger's Distinguished Gentleman?

[Uncle]

 

[HaughtyFrank]

like you said, “I shouldn’t really have to point out” the nuance present within a phrase like “fuck white people” because if it doesn’t apply, it doesn’t apply.

The dumbest logic. Just go ahead and try that with a generalization about any minority.

Edit: And all of this in a thread where the shooter wasn't white but every victim was. Like what are they even going on about?

[Nintex]

Edit: And all of this in a thread where the shooter wasn't white but every victim was. Like what are they even going on about?

Thank god no innocent people were hurt

[HaughtyFrank]

We gonna start calling these people terrorists or no?

Tell me more about what groups of people should be called terrorists.

Far right white dudes; which is what was assumed yesterday with what 50 mile away pictures we had.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mass-shooting-at-boulder-colorado-grocery-store-10-confirmed-dead-shooter-in-custody.398200/post-61413583

"Lay off, I only called him a terrorist because we didn't know anything about him or his motive"

[Ghoul]

https://twitter.com/tha_rami/status/1374449023445213188

The Rami just isn’t giving this up is he?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

The Rami just isn’t giving this up is he?

I mean... his argument is a lot more persuasive than the cast of Smash Bros or an Animal Crossing Space Puffs haircut is, which all got dollars per word coverage

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Far right white dudes; which is what was assumed yesterday with what 50 mile away pictures we had.

And the mere mention of his name being "foreign" was enough for racist ghouls to celebrate he wasn't "American".

no, no, the other racist ghouls jumping to conclusions to push a narrative are the bad guys

[benjipwns]

I think if you banned bullshit news, like FOX, we'd have a lot less people terrified of their own shadows. It sows division and leans into fear/conflict.

Weird how every problem always has the same solution on ResetERA.com.