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MMaRsu

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« Reply #300 on: June 12, 2022, 07:03:22 PM »
I feel like SR6 gonna benefit from that it's been a billion years since GTAV and there hasn't been any GTA-likes on the market in forever outside Watchdogs Legion which was weak. Unlike certain crowded genres, it's been enough years that a good GTA-like would feel fresh again.

Too bad its EGS exclusive so say goodbye to a big PC crowd

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« Reply #301 on: June 12, 2022, 07:17:34 PM »
I feel like SR6 gonna benefit from that it's been a billion years since GTAV and there hasn't been any GTA-likes on the market in forever outside Watchdogs Legion which was weak. Unlike certain crowded genres, it's been enough years that a good GTA-like would feel fresh again.

Too bad its EGS exclusive so say goodbye to a big PC crowd

Shit, that sucks.

MMaRsu

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« Reply #302 on: June 12, 2022, 07:37:00 PM »
It does but hopefully it comes DRM free so I can at least pirate it  :yeshrug

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« Reply #303 on: June 12, 2022, 07:45:17 PM »
Like bebsy said, this is coming in on the end of a long OWG draught for many of us. I've literally played GTA V start to finish on 3 generations of console: 360, PS4, PS5. I was slow to finish Red Dead, but even that as a western is different than urban crime run-and-gun. I am excited for this.

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« Reply #304 on: June 13, 2022, 07:31:58 AM »
Some things appear to have been toned-down from that character editor app, but not by that much.  Seems like that's kind of how the whole game will be compared to the previous entries. 

Will likely get it unless initial impressions are bad before or right at launch.

I feel like SR6 gonna benefit from that it's been a billion years since GTAV and there hasn't been any GTA-likes on the market in forever outside Watchdogs Legion which was weak. Unlike certain crowded genres, it's been enough years that a good GTA-like would feel fresh again.

Too bad its EGS exclusive so say goodbye to a big PC crowd

Shit, that sucks.

1. It's a timed-exclusive.

2. It really doesn't matter- unless you want to play it on a Steam Deck at launch, I guess?  Or if you just have an endless hate-boner like MMaRsu.   :P
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MMaRsu

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« Reply #305 on: June 13, 2022, 07:50:33 AM »
I dont shop at a store run by uber hypocrite and cunt tim sweeney but ok

Exclusive trash. Ill wait till its a tenner on steam, devs dont deserve more for their exclusivity deal.

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« Reply #306 on: June 13, 2022, 08:06:44 AM »
I dont shop at a store run by uber hypocrite and cunt tim sweeney but ok

:snore

Exclusive trash. Ill wait till its a tenner on steam, devs dont deserve more for their exclusivity deal.

Or will you get it on a Epic account like you did with Tony Hawk?  :doge
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MMaRsu

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« Reply #307 on: June 13, 2022, 08:40:08 AM »
I dont shop at a store run by uber hypocrite and cunt tim sweeney but ok

:snore

Exclusive trash. Ill wait till its a tenner on steam, devs dont deserve more for their exclusivity deal.

Or will you get it on a Epic account like you did with Tony Hawk?  :doge

Well yeah and no, I bought that from some russian hackers, and in turn I changed the pw so they couldnt use it anymore lmao.

Not the best route to go, but since fucking Tony Hawk Remake still isnt on any other platform.... I mean what could I do? Its still not available elsewhere, not even cracked.

I have never spent a cent on EGS and never will.

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« Reply #308 on: June 13, 2022, 10:00:43 AM »
Spent another minute on Boss Factory... and I'm starting to realize some things that it's missing that's starting to annoy me... Is there not going to be a anything regarding editing your posture, idle animation or walk animation??  I want my vixen to flaunt it with a catwalk style walk with some jiggle.  This could be a deal breaker.   
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« Reply #309 on: June 13, 2022, 10:23:52 AM »
\Not the best route to go, but since fucking Tony Hawk Remake still isnt on any other platform.... I mean what could I do? Its still not available elsewhere, not even cracked.

Buy it with a legit account or on a console.

I have never spent a cent on EGS and never will.

OK.  Keep missing out on all the free games they give out, bullshit-free, all the time.  We've had this discussion before on here.  I prefer to get games on Steam, but there's multiple storefronts out there and Epic isn't any different than the likes of Origin, UPlay, Battle.Net, etc.  I'll likely get this game on EGS over a console.  It's not a big deal.
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MMaRsu

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« Reply #310 on: June 13, 2022, 11:44:35 AM »
\Not the best route to go, but since fucking Tony Hawk Remake still isnt on any other platform.... I mean what could I do? Its still not available elsewhere, not even cracked.

Buy it with a legit account or on a console.

I have never spent a cent on EGS and never will.

OK.  Keep missing out on all the free games they give out, bullshit-free, all the time.  We've had this discussion before on here.  I prefer to get games on Steam, but there's multiple storefronts out there and Epic isn't any different than the likes of Origin, UPlay, Battle.Net, etc.  I'll likely get this game on EGS over a console.  It's not a big deal.

I dont care about the free games man, I have so many games Ill never have the time to play them all. Also 90% of their free games, I already have. Epic is different, they tie up games to be exclusive to their storefront. Origin doesnt do that, Uplay doesnt do that, Battle.net doesnt do that (Im talking about third party games not developed by those companies). I dont want to support that.

I dont have a current gen console at the moment so that option is out. I will buy any EGS exclusive if it comes to Steam later, and it's good and I have interest in it. I just dont want to spend anything on a guy calling out "walled gardens" but in the meantime making his own walled garden of his own.

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« Reply #311 on: June 13, 2022, 11:50:07 AM »
\Not the best route to go, but since fucking Tony Hawk Remake still isnt on any other platform.... I mean what could I do? Its still not available elsewhere, not even cracked.

Buy it with a legit account or on a console.

I have never spent a cent on EGS and never will.

OK.  Keep missing out on all the free games they give out, bullshit-free, all the time.  We've had this discussion before on here.  I prefer to get games on Steam, but there's multiple storefronts out there and Epic isn't any different than the likes of Origin, UPlay, Battle.Net, etc.  I'll likely get this game on EGS over a console.  It's not a big deal.

I dont care about the free games man, I have so many games Ill never have the time to play them all. Also 90% of their free games, I already have. Epic is different, they tie up games to be exclusive to their storefront. Origin doesnt do that, Uplay doesnt do that, Battle.net doesnt do that (Im talking about third party games not developed by those companies). I dont want to support that.

I dont have a current gen console at the moment so that option is out. I will buy any EGS exclusive if it comes to Steam later, and it's good and I have interest in it. I just dont want to spend anything on a guy calling out "walled gardens" but in the meantime making his own walled garden of his own.

"I don't want to support THE EVIL EPIC, but I will pirate games instead!"  OK.  Really supporting those developers!

Who cares whether or not it's third-part or not?  If you want to play all the games available on PC, you have to use multiple storefronts.  If you don't like that, get a console- oh wait, they have exclusive third-party releases too.
:idont

Also, while it's nice to see EA put their games on Steam again, don't you need to still have Origin to play them?  Ditto for the Ubi games.  So boot up Steam to then boot up another storefront to then play the game.
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Svejk

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« Reply #312 on: June 13, 2022, 11:59:25 AM »
Reading that they weren't currently planning to add to the character creator (for free).  The more things are brought to my attention about it, the more disappointed I'm becoming with it.  Where's the variety of tattoos and tattoo placement?? Elden Ring let you slide and scale tatoos around, but they just get plopped on here.  Forget all the goofy emotes... Where's actual gameplay moving animations?? Why not have an option on how you hold your weapons? No stylized way of a reload animation? No sitting posture? No jiggle option? No tongue option?  There's a small bit of nipple options, but they're horrible.  No body piercing options? Cyberpunk and Elden Ring do it better still... Why bother touting so much "variety" when it's all just clothes... That you'll be swapping out constantly in game anyways? (At least I know I will).

 I dunno bros.... My initial reaction was having fun, but spending more time with it, it feels as dated as a PS2 game in it's options..  Even SR2 had different options for walk animations... I want my female supermodel walk... If it's not there, you can forget it. :nope

MMaRsu

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« Reply #313 on: June 13, 2022, 12:00:19 PM »
\Not the best route to go, but since fucking Tony Hawk Remake still isnt on any other platform.... I mean what could I do? Its still not available elsewhere, not even cracked.

Buy it with a legit account or on a console.

I have never spent a cent on EGS and never will.

OK.  Keep missing out on all the free games they give out, bullshit-free, all the time.  We've had this discussion before on here.  I prefer to get games on Steam, but there's multiple storefronts out there and Epic isn't any different than the likes of Origin, UPlay, Battle.Net, etc.  I'll likely get this game on EGS over a console.  It's not a big deal.

I dont care about the free games man, I have so many games Ill never have the time to play them all. Also 90% of their free games, I already have. Epic is different, they tie up games to be exclusive to their storefront. Origin doesnt do that, Uplay doesnt do that, Battle.net doesnt do that (Im talking about third party games not developed by those companies). I dont want to support that.

I dont have a current gen console at the moment so that option is out. I will buy any EGS exclusive if it comes to Steam later, and it's good and I have interest in it. I just dont want to spend anything on a guy calling out "walled gardens" but in the meantime making his own walled garden of his own.

"I don't want to support THE EVIL EPIC, but I will pirate games instead!"  OK.  Really supporting those developers!

Who cares whether or not it's third-part or not?  If you want to play all the games available on PC, you have to use multiple storefronts.  If you don't like that, get a console- oh wait, they have exclusive third-party releases too.
:idont

Also, while it's nice to see EA put their games on Steam again, don't you need to still have Origin to play them?  Ditto for the Ubi games.  So boot up Steam to then boot up another storefront to then play the game.

Wrong. You shouldnt have to. That's what Epic is trying to enforce. Most if not all publishers have already returned to Steam. I am trying to not support that "multiple launcher is a neccesity" bs.

And yes, I would rather pirate games than buy them on Epic Games Store. The developers chose themselves to align on that store, they know the consequences of barely any sales on EGS. EGS games barely sell. Their ROI is horrible.

But Tim Sweeney gives them a big sack of money to pay for their exclusivity. Im fine with that, and I hope they are fine with me pirating their game untill I can purchase it on a launcher that I trust, have put my money towards and have built a library on.

Yes I have some games on Uplay. Yes I have some games on Origin. But those are publisher only games that were exclusive to that launcher because they themselves developed the game. I'm fine with that (although I see more positives to put the game on all launchers).

If developers want to succeed, and spread their chances, increase their userbase, then it might be smarter to not launch exclusively on EGS. But instead launch on all platforms!

Wasnt Tim Sweeney's big thing about choice being important? Wouldnt his 'exclusives' give more back to the consumer? Cheaper games? I have seen none of that. In fact I have seen games stay at their high price (Kingdom Hearts) because they are only available on EGS. Fuck all that bro.

PC space shouldnt splinter like the console space. It never was that way, and it shouldnt be that way.

Going pretty offtopic in all this but hey. I have all Saints Row games on Steam. Why would I want to get the fifth one somewhere else?

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« Reply #314 on: June 13, 2022, 12:06:08 PM »
Jim Robs is the same joke, maybe even funnier?

:huh

a rim job is a colloquialism for analingus, but naming a car customisation shops that might imply that they will do a job on your rims, as in that is their specialisation.
It is a pun.

Jim Robs suggests nothing about the type of business it might be, and the only implication is that the owner Jim might be a thief.


If you had a fictional garden tools shop and you called it "Cheap Hoes", you would be making a business that plausibly does what the name implies, but also punning on a more common usage of the phrase.

If you then renamed it "Heap Choes" its not the same joke. Its not funnier.

Okay, I guess we know who the rising fourth-year PHD student in comedy school is. :badass
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« Reply #315 on: June 13, 2022, 01:15:18 PM »
Wrong. You shouldnt have to. That's what Epic is trying to enforce. Most if not all publishers have already returned to Steam. I am trying to not support that "multiple launcher is a neccesity" bs.

Again, do you not still need to launch Origin and UPlay to play those publishers' games on Steam?

And yes, I would rather pirate games than buy them on Epic Games Store. The developers chose themselves to align on that store, they know the consequences of barely any sales on EGS. EGS games barely sell. Their ROI is horrible.

How do you know these games aren't selling well enough?  Moreover, Epic is giving them a shitload of money to do this.

If developers want to succeed, and spread their chances, increase their userbase, then it might be smarter to not launch exclusively on EGS. But instead launch on all platforms!

They do launch on all platforms.  This game is coming to Steam later.

Wasnt Tim Sweeney's big thing about choice being important? Wouldnt his 'exclusives' give more back to the consumer? Cheaper games? I have seen none of that. In fact I have seen games stay at their high price (Kingdom Hearts) because they are only available on EGS. Fuck all that bro.

Who cares what PR bullshit Tim Sweeney spewed out?  If there's something that comes on EGS that I want, that isn't on Steam, I'll get it on there.  You do have the choice to wait for Saints Row to come out on Steam in however long and purchase it on there.

Is Kingdom Hearts' high price because of Epic...or Square?

PC space shouldnt splinter like the console space. It never was that way, and it shouldnt be that way.


It has always been this way since these digital storefronts became a thing.  It's great to see more publishers putting their games on everything, but exclusives are a thing and they will happen.

Going pretty offtopic in all this but hey. I have all Saints Row games on Steam. Why would I want to get the fifth one somewhere else?

What difference does it make?   Add a non-Steam game shortcut inside Steam if it bothers you that much. 

I get it, you hate Epic.  You've been beating that dead horse in multiple threads over the last few years, man. 
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MMaRsu

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« Reply #316 on: June 13, 2022, 01:29:50 PM »
Then I dont know why you are grilling me on it lol. Like I said I buy the games when they come to Steam eventually. I just find it annoying as fuck to gatekeep/hold hostage PC games for an entire year on a dumb storefront.

How do I know they arent selling well?

Look at the numbers Epic had put out their year over year profits have barely gone up despite securing multiple big exclusives. It's just an annoying cumbersome bullshit that we shouldnt have to deal with, and im not gonna support that type of business. If you do, thats you. I wouldnt want to purchase anything from such a corrupt venture.

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« Reply #317 on: June 13, 2022, 02:44:59 PM »
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How do I know they arent selling well?

Look at the numbers Epic had put out their year over year profits have barely gone up despite securing multiple big exclusives. It's just an annoying cumbersome bullshit that we shouldnt have to deal with, and im not gonna support that type of business. If you do, thats you. I wouldnt want to purchase anything from such a corrupt venture.

When I google it, I see that Epic themselves doesn't expect their store to become profitable until at least 2025 and that they can afford to keep losing money with all the cash they're throwing at exclusives:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/04/how-long-can-epic-afford-to-throw-money-at-the-epic-games-store/
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But it's also a gamble Epic Games is perfectly equipped to shoulder, for the time being. That's largely because of Fortnite, a game that was still reportedly making $400 million in revenue per month as of last April, nearly three years after its launch. Epic's willingness to take risks is also due to the Unreal Engine, which brings in a 5 percent royalty on sales from dozens of blockbuster games ranging from Yoshi's Crafted World to Mortal Kombat 11.

Put those together, and you have a company making $3.85 billion dollars in gross profit on $9.625 billion in revenue, according to court documents. For a company like that, spending a few years and nearly a billion dollars in losses on a new PC gaming storefront probably feels like dropping pocket change in the tip jar.

I don't see anything they are doing that is any "worse" than any other big-ass vidya corporation.  How DARE they try to get people to go buy things from their storefront!  Look at those scumbags giving away full games!
 :brain
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MMaRsu

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« Reply #318 on: June 13, 2022, 03:04:08 PM »
Them giving away free games is just an enticement to get you in their platform. Like I said, I have plenty of games and most of their free offerings I already have.

I wont scorn anyone for using their store, but I dont see how you can be so flippant about it. Its clear cut greed, doesnt give consumers more options, and is in fact in every way a downside for the consumer.

No clue why youd go batting for that kind of corporate greed.

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« Reply #319 on: June 13, 2022, 03:11:01 PM »
I think its more so that the crusade against Epic is akin to platform warring for consoles. Valve is privately owned and has more competent staff for designing features for their storefront/launcher and maintaining their store.

Thats.....the main difference between Valve and Epic.  :lol
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MMaRsu

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« Reply #320 on: June 13, 2022, 03:30:07 PM »
Well that and they arent picky who gets to be on their storefront, and dont hold them exclusively on their platform because they bought out the rights. I just dont like that. I love if games are available everywhere. Make then cheaper on EGS to battle steam. Sadly they dont do that

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« Reply #321 on: June 13, 2022, 09:48:28 PM »
Them giving away free games is just an enticement to get you in their platform. Like I said, I have plenty of games and most of their free offerings I already have.

I wont scorn anyone for using their store, but I dont see how you can be so flippant about it. Its clear cut greed, doesnt give consumers more options, and is in fact in every way a downside for the consumer.

No clue why youd go batting for that kind of corporate greed.

If nothing else, I'm benefiting from EGS by getting free games.  I'm not stanning for them -I much prefer Steam- but I don't see anything about them that entails constant shitting on them, either.  That's all.

I think its more so that the crusade against Epic is akin to platform warring for consoles.

 :hesright
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« Reply #322 on: June 13, 2022, 09:58:05 PM »
Saints Row IV was like the last game I ever preordered. Not buying anything on EGS full price, not even Saints Row, sorry, not sorry. :elon :trumps

Will take all the free stuff Tim wants to give though. :yeshrug

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« Reply #323 on: June 13, 2022, 11:55:04 PM »
I've got $70 in steam credit to use, that's the only reason I'm waiting. Could see this easily being 50% off in a month
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« Reply #324 on: June 14, 2022, 12:32:37 PM »
Okay, I guess we know who the rising fourth-year PHD student in comedy school is. :badass

I dunno why they changed the name, Rim Jobs is puerile but inoffensive :idont

Quote from: MMaRsu
How do I know they arent selling well?

Look at the numbers Epic had put out their year over year profits have barely gone up despite securing multiple big exclusives. It's just an annoying cumbersome bullshit that we shouldnt have to deal with, and im not gonna support that type of business. If you do, thats you. I wouldnt want to purchase anything from such a corrupt venture.

When I google it, I see that Epic themselves doesn't expect their store to become profitable until at least 2025 and that they can afford to keep losing money with all the cash they're throwing at exclusives:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/04/how-long-can-epic-afford-to-throw-money-at-the-epic-games-store/
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But it's also a gamble Epic Games is perfectly equipped to shoulder, for the time being. That's largely because of Fortnite, a game that was still reportedly making $400 million in revenue per month as of last April, nearly three years after its launch. Epic's willingness to take risks is also due to the Unreal Engine, which brings in a 5 percent royalty on sales from dozens of blockbuster games ranging from Yoshi's Crafted World to Mortal Kombat 11.

Put those together, and you have a company making $3.85 billion dollars in gross profit on $9.625 billion in revenue, according to court documents. For a company like that, spending a few years and nearly a billion dollars in losses on a new PC gaming storefront probably feels like dropping pocket change in the tip jar.

I don't see anything they are doing that is any "worse" than any other big-ass vidya corporation.  How DARE they try to get people to go buy things from their storefront!  Look at those scumbags giving away full games!
 :brain

I think its at least partly that they came out moaning about how much cash valve were making as a storefront for doing fuck all in return, like they were diddling hard work indies out of nickels and cents, but when push comes to shove their own storefront offering a fraction of the services steam does can't stay afloat on its own terms and also passes zero savings onto customers

MMaRsu

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« Reply #325 on: June 15, 2022, 08:11:24 AM »
Since there's no cockney/british boss I dont see how this game can be any better than previous Saints games anyway 😵‍💫

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« Reply #326 on: June 15, 2022, 09:34:19 AM »
Should have the joke voice be Chris Pratt.
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« Reply #327 on: June 17, 2022, 01:35:17 AM »
Since there's no cockney/british boss I dont see how this game can be any better than previous Saints games anyway 😵‍💫
What the fuck are they thinking with this game? smh
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