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« Reply #19260 on: August 10, 2022, 03:06:44 PM »
Good breakdown.

Yeah if it gets a S2, I expect some massive narrative structure rehauls to make it work for this new TV audience that will expect Morpheus in every ep. Hell, I feel like he was already in The Doll House arc way more than the comic and people still complained he wasn't in it enough.

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« Reply #19261 on: August 10, 2022, 04:17:06 PM »
Yeah, I can't believe it all ends next week.

It's been great watching the aftermath of BB now its transitioned away from flashbacks and where Kim has ended up is pretty heartbreaking.
Saul is not the good guy hero of the show, even though the show is about him, and its pretty much brutally hammering that home. There's no redemption arc here.

A lot of people were shit talking Chuck when he was the 'antagonist', but its pretty clear
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Yep. Season 1 Jimmy made it hard to remember how much of a piece of shit Saul became. Unbelievable show.
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« Reply #19263 on: August 11, 2022, 12:04:59 AM »
Everyone says Westworld Season 4 is great...

So I started watching Season 3 that everyone hates, and the first 2 episodes were pretty damn good.

And holy shit at the budget, Singapore, Los Angeles, Valencia... thse fuckers filmed everywhere they could find a cool looking building.

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« Reply #19264 on: August 11, 2022, 07:32:02 AM »
I really liked Breaking Bad, but I watched the first season of Saul Goodman and I honestly dont care for it at all. Just boring.
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« Reply #19265 on: August 11, 2022, 01:12:53 PM »
I really liked Breaking Bad, but I watched the first season of Saul Goodman and I honestly dont care for it at all. Just boring.

This is where I'm at.

I tried to keep up when it first came out, and I was like, no sir, no thank you.

Ironically, it was mainly because I know the main BB threads weren't gonna bleed into better caul saul (according to the writers).

Apparently they started going just that, and because of that I want to watch it even less.


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« Reply #19266 on: August 11, 2022, 02:58:51 PM »
I really liked Breaking Bad, but I watched the first season of Saul Goodman and I honestly dont care for it at all. Just boring.

BCS gets so damn good though
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« Reply #19267 on: August 11, 2022, 03:03:30 PM »
BCS is the better show.
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« Reply #19268 on: August 15, 2022, 09:58:07 PM »
As someone who has never been exposed to The Sandman outside of seeing a couple of graphic novel covers online, the show is excellent.
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« Reply #19269 on: August 15, 2022, 10:03:31 PM »
WestWorld totally lost the plot and squandered what had been an incredibly tight, interesting season.

Every previous season finale left me at least a little excited and intrigued for what's next. Not this time.

I have a fear shmaltzy faux-Delores x Teddy stuff is gonna be what closes out the season

Welp.

And it wasn't even Teddy, it was faux-Teddy too. Wtf are these writers doing anymore

Bernard being The Oracle is cute enough for now but if it goes on much longer without being "broken" ("I didn't see that coming!", etc.) I think it'll get annoying. The writers are basically writing in a huge deus ex machina and the storyteller in me doesn't care for it much. Plus it kinda feels like they're showing off how smart they are a little when it's not smart at all (just write backwards... Death Note takes the concept and actually makes it well-written, as a counter-example).

I don't know if it's laziness or lack of creativity, but Bernard's Oracle abilities boiling down to a vlog on an iPad and a single hidden handgun in the Hoover Dam is... goddamn, what's the word for exasperating but totally expected?

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« Reply #19270 on: August 15, 2022, 10:08:54 PM »
WestWorld totally lost the plot and squandered what had been an incredibly tight, interesting season.

Every previous season finale left me at least a little excited and intrigued for what's next. Not this time.

I have a fear shmaltzy faux-Delores x Teddy stuff is gonna be what closes out the season

Welp.

And it wasn't even Teddy, it was faux-Teddy too. Wtf are these writers doing anymore

Bernard being The Oracle is cute enough for now but if it goes on much longer without being "broken" ("I didn't see that coming!", etc.) I think it'll get annoying. The writers are basically writing in a huge deus ex machina and the storyteller in me doesn't care for it much. Plus it kinda feels like they're showing off how smart they are a little when it's not smart at all (just write backwards... Death Note takes the concept and actually makes it well-written, as a counter-example).

I don't know if it's laziness or lack of creativity, but Bernard's Oracle abilities boiling down to a vlog on an iPad and a single hidden handgun in the Hoover Dam is... goddamn, what's the word for exasperating but totally expected?
Bemusing?
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« Reply #19271 on: August 15, 2022, 10:15:53 PM »
Close but a slightly more annoyed aftertaste.

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« Reply #19272 on: August 16, 2022, 05:47:35 AM »
Better Call Saul went out nicely. Satisfied with the ending and it was an appropriate end for the character.
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« Reply #19273 on: August 16, 2022, 02:53:47 PM »
Really satisfying conclusion to BCS.

Really clever how it shows flashbacks to the three people most responsible for him ultimately becoming Saul, and with two of them he has a conversation about Time Machines as an allegory for regret, with his own answers changing each time, based on his relatioonship with them.

The third person, probably the one who affected him most deeply and cemented his path, suggests they talk, but Saul blows him off suggesting they have nothing to talk about, then leaves.

And that person then picks up a copy of H.G. Wells The Time Machine.

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« Reply #19274 on: August 16, 2022, 03:08:04 PM »
Almost done with Bloodline, it's really suspenseful and I can't stop watching.
It could've been better, but it's definitely not bad.

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« Reply #19275 on: August 16, 2022, 05:03:18 PM »
WestWorld totally lost the plot and squandered what had been an incredibly tight, interesting season.

Every previous season finale left me at least a little excited and intrigued for what's next. Not this time.

I have a fear shmaltzy faux-Delores x Teddy stuff is gonna be what closes out the season

Welp.

And it wasn't even Teddy, it was faux-Teddy too. Wtf are these writers doing anymore

Bernard being The Oracle is cute enough for now but if it goes on much longer without being "broken" ("I didn't see that coming!", etc.) I think it'll get annoying. The writers are basically writing in a huge deus ex machina and the storyteller in me doesn't care for it much. Plus it kinda feels like they're showing off how smart they are a little when it's not smart at all (just write backwards... Death Note takes the concept and actually makes it well-written, as a counter-example).

I don't know if it's laziness or lack of creativity, but Bernard's Oracle abilities boiling down to a vlog on an iPad and a single hidden handgun in the Hoover Dam is... goddamn, what's the word for exasperating but totally expected?

Little bit dipping into conspiracy theories. Between how rushed it was and the uncharacteristically bad vfx, left wondering if the diminishing ratings had HBO say to wrap it up. Some ADR lines and stuff to work it into a series finale. No stinger or much left open.

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« Reply #19276 on: August 16, 2022, 06:32:58 PM »
Really satisfying conclusion to BCS.

Really clever how it shows flashbacks to the three people most responsible for him ultimately becoming Saul, and with two of them he has a conversation about Time Machines as an allegory for regret, with his own answers changing each time, based on his relatioonship with them.

The third person, probably the one who affected him most deeply and cemented his path, suggests they talk, but Saul blows him off suggesting they have nothing to talk about, then leaves.

And that person then picks up a copy of H.G. Wells The Time Machine.

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The final set of episodes was really interesting.
Instead of going for a shock ending, they just slowly played it out over 3 episodes.

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In the end and perhaps even from the very start there was always Jimmy McGill and Saul Goodman.

In the court room he acts in reverse for the first time.
Instead of Saul Goodman taking over the opportunities that Jimmy McGill created to get ahead, he finally decides to use Jimmy McGill to stop Saul Goodman from cheating.
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« Reply #19277 on: August 16, 2022, 07:51:11 PM »
WestWorld totally lost the plot and squandered what had been an incredibly tight, interesting season.

Every previous season finale left me at least a little excited and intrigued for what's next. Not this time.

I have a fear shmaltzy faux-Delores x Teddy stuff is gonna be what closes out the season

Welp.

And it wasn't even Teddy, it was faux-Teddy too. Wtf are these writers doing anymore

Bernard being The Oracle is cute enough for now but if it goes on much longer without being "broken" ("I didn't see that coming!", etc.) I think it'll get annoying. The writers are basically writing in a huge deus ex machina and the storyteller in me doesn't care for it much. Plus it kinda feels like they're showing off how smart they are a little when it's not smart at all (just write backwards... Death Note takes the concept and actually makes it well-written, as a counter-example).

I don't know if it's laziness or lack of creativity, but Bernard's Oracle abilities boiling down to a vlog on an iPad and a single hidden handgun in the Hoover Dam is... goddamn, what's the word for exasperating but totally expected?

Little bit dipping into conspiracy theories. Between how rushed it was and the uncharacteristically bad vfx, left wondering if the diminishing ratings had HBO say to wrap it up. Some ADR lines and stuff to work it into a series finale. No stinger or much left open.

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Season 2’s stinger was retconned. Or it’s some different version of an endless loop. Whatever.
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Any setpiece at the Hoover Dam looked cheap as fuck. I have a likewise conspiracy theory that the Dam only let them film for like an hour and there could only be like 5 people on set at any time, and there could be no explosions/big fights/etc.

Seriously they don't have a single Drone Host protecting the sublime? A couple humans? Anybody?

There was that mech a few eps back but that seemed like the only one, or if there are more they're spaced so far apart as to be useless as a security measure. Didn't Maeve take it out with just a few bullets too?

None of Halores' moves this season after episode ~4 made any sense at all. Queen of the World but zero contingencies. What a smart character.

Sure, make your archenemy into your pet but don't put any safeguards in his code so that he can't shoot you. Goddamn, even Demolition Man had better henchman logic than this show. "I can't shoot you, but he can." That one line turns Hale from a fucking goddamn moron into someone with some actual sense.

But we gotta cut lines like those to make room for Delores saying how much she loves the figment of Teddy she invented inside her head, and rehash Season 3's ending message just to try to tie shit together (I don't know wtf they were going for with that park bench scene).

New York City looked like it only ever had about 20 people living in it. I know they have a big budget but I don't know where it's going, maybe that hour at the Hoover Dam took 90% of the budget?

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« Reply #19278 on: August 16, 2022, 07:59:00 PM »
Something else that annoyed me as an aspiring storyteller was the absurd cheapening of death.

And the writers knew it because after as season of "This is Maeve, oh wait no she's a copy," "This is William, oh wait he's a copy," "Oh this is Jesse Pinkman, oh wait he's a copy" and killing and bringing them back over and over... (never really making it clear which version of each person remembers which things, or even what they're about at the core) they just take the easy route and just kill everybody to clear the board.

Also a bullet to the head used to be the end of a Host in every circumstance. Hale's one last "fuck you" was to that in-universe rule, I suppose. Gotta have a pointless, yawn-worthy fight with fake-William before a poignant suicide scene. Just bad plotting. Why did Hale even need to "die" last ep? To give her a new body? There's so many other ways to get to that story beat, ugh...

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« Reply #19279 on: August 16, 2022, 08:04:30 PM »
Also, why does this keep happening?

"Oh shit, William's inside the Hoover Dam and he's gonna destroy The Sublime! I better hurry!"

*Hale starts "fast"-walking at 5 MPH*

This show has no idea how to do action scenes or urgency. Slow, methodical mystery boxes? Sure. The other trappings that supposedly elevate this show to "HBO Level"? Nah, no way. Take the names Nolan and Joy off this show and it would have been cancelled halfway through season 2.

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« Reply #19280 on: August 16, 2022, 08:27:43 PM »


Offbook podcast is pretty amazing, so I hope this is good.   Zach Reino and Jessica McKenna are incredibly talented. 

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« Reply #19281 on: August 16, 2022, 08:45:18 PM »
The Bear

Few episodes in and yea, the hype is real. Very good show. Camera work really stands out.
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« Reply #19282 on: August 16, 2022, 09:23:35 PM »
Also, why does this keep happening?

"Oh shit, William's inside the Hoover Dam and he's gonna destroy The Sublime! I better hurry!"

*Hale starts "fast"-walking at 5 MPH*

This show has no idea how to do action scenes or urgency. Slow, methodical mystery boxes? Sure. The other trappings that supposedly elevate this show to "HBO Level"? Nah, no way. Take the names Nolan and Joy off this show and it would have been cancelled halfway through season 2.

Fundamentally they never figure out how to make host vs host unique, interesting, or consistent. First season or two had fun action beats, because there’s a humor to seeing half the characters know they’re LARPing. That discrepancy between human and host, illusion and real, got lost with the direction it went. It’s why Kiksuya was such a great episode.

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« Reply #19283 on: August 17, 2022, 12:37:46 PM »
I just watched Untold: The Girlfriend Who Didn't Exist on Netflix, which is one of the most  :rage things I've ever seen.

I never heard the original story because its a) American and b) Sports, but basically this dude got catfished, the day his grandmother died his catfisher said his fake girlfriend had died from leukemia, then a couple of months later starts trying to catfish him again with a "Surprise, Im alive!" phonecall.
The story got out, it fucked up his career, it fucked up his reputation (seems a lot of people were sure he was either in on it and a liar, secretly gay and using it as cover, or just a fucking idiot to get catfished in the first place) and dude became a national laughing stock through literally zero fault of his own.

So as part of telling this story, they interview the catfisher, who is completely fucking unrepentant about exactly how shitty what they did was, and keeps trying to make it about how bad they felt about stuff while it was going on, and how they're a victim too, and wow, fuck them.

I dunno if it was the documentary makers intention to make me rage at a narcissistic piece of shit for doing something which - in fairness - they would have had no way of knowing would go as far as it did, but holy fuck rage I did.

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« Reply #19284 on: August 17, 2022, 04:01:02 PM »
They actually said they're a victim too?

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« Reply #19285 on: August 17, 2022, 04:13:54 PM »
Well, not in those words, but they keep couching every opportunity for a "Yeah, I feel bad about what a shitty thing I did" with things like "And I could see how upset he was that I'd made him thought I was dead, but I was mourning the loss of that persona too and in a way we shared that pain" type rationalisations.

YMMV on how genuinely sorry they come across as (my POV: not-at-fucking-all) but its pretty rare I watch a documentary and just can't find any empathy at all for one of the sides at all

 

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« Reply #19286 on: August 17, 2022, 09:18:56 PM »
All this sandman talk got me interested. Though I'll read some of the comic volumes first. Always wanted to read those anyway and it sounds like that's still the essential version

Actually probably the opposite where you want to watch the show before the source material. That way you can enjoy the show and then enjoy the comic more. The show is still a good adaptation but coming straight from comic there will be some changes that are a bit disappointing and certain scenes don't hit the same way in the show.

Plus, gotta feed that Netflix algorithm if there's any chance for a S2 and Netflix only gives a shit about views in the first week or two before deciding whether to cancel or renew.

Just finished it and had a pretty good time with it.

I didn't quite listen to your advice since I was already about halfway through volume 1 when I saw the post so I thought I might as well finish it. I didn't read anything past that though which made watching the show fairly interesting as it became clear to me that it is pretty much split into two halves, with the second half covering volume 2 I guess (or maybe even a little beyond?).
In general, I think I liked that first half a little more, as it felt a bit more focused with Dream collecting all his stuff and introducing the various worlds, while also keeping the episodes relatively self contained. My favorite sequence was probably Dream visiting the immortal guy every 100 years. I wouldn't even mind if that had been the whole show, just self contained bits about Dream's strange adventures. In comparison the second half suddenly introduced such a large collection of new characters + a more overarching plot that it almost felt a bit rushed.

Casting was generally pretty good, though I can see why there were some complaints about the guy who plays Dream. I don't even mind his acting but it's his face that just feels a little off. It's as if he knows that his cheekbones aren't quite sharp enough so he tries to make them more prominent with his expression. Also they could have totally used that glowy eye effect on him more. That seems pretty iconic to the comic character and the time they did it in the show it looked pretty good. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZucPrzXoAAaSl7?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

As for the visuals, I was at first a little disappointed that it didn't quite have the same grime and dirty artstyle of the comic but thinking about it I can't quite imagine how you could truly recreate that kind of art in real life and, after all, it still managed to bring in enough surreal elements. The dream surfing sequence was quite nice, for example, though unfortunately a tad short.
As for the narrative changes, I have a suspicion that there were more changes in the second half than the first half. Of the ones that I'm aware of none bothered me too greatly though here and there I wondered why you'd change that (like for example in the comic Dream punishes the son of his captor with the pretty horrific eternal waking whereas here it was just... eternal sleep? That sounds quite comfy actually)

Overall I'd say this one of the better Netflix shows and I'm curious to get deeper into Sandman. I'm guessing a second season is also pretty certain by now.

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« Reply #19287 on: August 17, 2022, 09:31:07 PM »
I just watched Untold: The Girlfriend Who Didn't Exist on Netflix, which is one of the most  :rage things I've ever seen.

I never heard the original story because its a) American and b) Sports, but basically this dude got catfished, the day his grandmother died his catfisher said his fake girlfriend had died from leukemia, then a couple of months later starts trying to catfish him again with a "Surprise, Im alive!" phonecall.
The story got out, it fucked up his career, it fucked up his reputation (seems a lot of people were sure he was either in on it and a liar, secretly gay and using it as cover, or just a fucking idiot to get catfished in the first place) and dude became a national laughing stock through literally zero fault of his own.

So as part of telling this story, they interview the catfisher, who is completely fucking unrepentant about exactly how shitty what they did was, and keeps trying to make it about how bad they felt about stuff while it was going on, and how they're a victim too, and wow, fuck them.

I dunno if it was the documentary makers intention to make me rage at a narcissistic piece of shit for doing something which - in fairness - they would have had no way of knowing would go as far as it did, but holy fuck rage I did.
I mean, if your online girlfriend is someone you've never met or seen in real life then the hat fits...
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« Reply #19288 on: August 18, 2022, 07:10:44 AM »
I can see why there were some complaints about the guy who plays Dream. I don't even mind his acting but it's his face that just feels a little off. It's as if he knows that his cheekbones aren't quite sharp enough so he tries to make them more prominent with his expression.

 :bluesteel

I mean, if your online girlfriend is someone you've never met or seen in real life then the hat fits...

It's genuinely a "Stranger than fiction" story, and worth a watch.

The guy who got catfished was naive as fuck, to the point when he spoke to a family member about what was happening got told he was being catfished, didn't understand it, and even after it was explained to him still didn't understand it, and the catfisher was manipulative enough to fake being in a car accident and phone him for weeks on end just breathing at him as though they were on a ventilator  :doge

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« Reply #19289 on: August 18, 2022, 07:16:55 AM »
Is there ever going to be a show with an ending as good as this?  :cry

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« Reply #19290 on: August 18, 2022, 07:43:05 AM »
Is there ever going to be a show with an ending as good as this?  :cry

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Great ending, but Six Feet Under and The Shield both had better endings.
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« Reply #19291 on: August 18, 2022, 07:46:36 AM »
Is there ever going to be a show with an ending as good as this?  :cry

BCS ending
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Great ending, but Six Feet Under and The Shield both had better endings.
Yeah but this was the final final ending of 2 of the greatest of all time shows while those endings were just the endings of 1 show :doge
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« Reply #19292 on: August 18, 2022, 07:59:20 AM »
We'll never know until The Shield gets a Dutch prequel spin off

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« Reply #19293 on: August 18, 2022, 01:45:01 PM »
She-Hulk is kind of fun. Lead actress is likeable, and the first episode features Mark Ruffalo as Hulk.

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They go overboard with Jenn Walters speculating Captain America is a virgin. But, otherwise, the first episode was breezy and enjoyable.
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« Reply #19294 on: August 18, 2022, 02:10:13 PM »
Is there ever going to be a show with an ending as good as this?  :cry

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Only someone who hasn't watched the Extraordinary Attorney Woo finale would say that

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« Reply #19295 on: August 18, 2022, 04:21:10 PM »
She-Hulk is kind of fun. Lead actress is likeable, and the first episode features Mark Ruffalo as Hulk.

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They go overboard with Jenn Walters speculating Captain America is a virgin. But, otherwise, the first episode was breezy and enjoyable.
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Tatiana Maslany is great. I really liked her in Orphan Black and she managed to keep multiple characters both unique and interesting
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« Reply #19296 on: August 18, 2022, 04:54:53 PM »
Fairly meh on She-hulk so far. Except for the final credits gag I'm not sure I even laughed once which isn't great for a show that wants to be a comedy. I'll guess I'll see how it goes now that the whole origin is out of the way

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« Reply #19297 on: August 18, 2022, 05:48:03 PM »
She-hulk was good, though much safer than it could be as a comedy. 

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« Reply #19298 on: August 19, 2022, 06:04:43 AM »
She-Hulk e1 was pretty bad. Hopefully now they have the origin story out of the way things will get street level and we can get this story going. She-Hulk herself is pretty fun, Tatiana Maslany is a great actress for this type of role.
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« Reply #19299 on: August 19, 2022, 08:18:30 AM »
What the, Sandman S1 did make an 11th ep featuring two one shot stories and the way they make that work in the pacing is dropping it after as a bonus ep.

Out now.

Also I said only way they do Dream of a Thousand Cats is an animated ep, and one of the two stories is that and it's an animated ep haha. Other is Caliope.

Also this suggests if it gets renewed they'll probably do the one shots this way for future seasons (as bonus eps)

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« Reply #19300 on: August 19, 2022, 10:37:50 AM »
Dream of a Thousand Cats was great.

If Sandman gets renewed, can see this rotoscope animation format used for certain one-shot stories where otherwise the budget would make them impossible in live action. It also makes it stylish. Like the Baghdad Jewel of the Desert issue would absolutely work in this style and be better for it over live-action if they do it.

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« Reply #19301 on: August 19, 2022, 04:07:05 PM »
She-hulk was good

She-Hulk e1 was pretty bad.

I think i'm going to go with my gut on this one

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« Reply #19302 on: August 19, 2022, 05:45:31 PM »
Pretty sure it will get better, I just didn't appreciate the massive info dump in the first episode which doubled up as a "girl power" pep talk.
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« Reply #19303 on: August 20, 2022, 04:52:48 AM »
Sorry bub but you don't change your mind when you've decided to go with your gut, that's not going with your gut

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« Reply #19304 on: August 20, 2022, 06:18:46 AM »
What the, Sandman S1 did make an 11th ep featuring two one shot stories and the way they make that work in the pacing is dropping it after as a bonus ep.

Out now.

Also I said only way they do Dream of a Thousand Cats is an animated ep, and one of the two stories is that and it's an animated ep haha. Other is Caliope.

Also this suggests if it gets renewed they'll probably do the one shots this way for future seasons (as bonus eps)

I hope them just shadow dropping this apropos of nothing isn't indicative of it not getting a renewal, because this feels a lot more like cutting ties - dropping this as an 'interest renewer' (eg along with an announcement of locking in for 2 more seasons or whatever) would seem to make more sense, but I honestly don't even know with Netflix.

Calliope in particular is really important to the 'mythos'; it also seems like they sort of missed a trick in showing the erinyes really fucking hate morpheus in their interactions with someone who at that time is also not a fan, because that gets kind of important later.

Also a bit weird how they shy away from Calliope being raped. "I consider myself a male feminist writer" -> rapist holds even more relevance today than it does when it was originally written (or maybe the same relevance, but is better known to a wider audience).

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« Reply #19305 on: August 20, 2022, 07:16:30 AM »
The rape stuff was pretty gross in the comic though, I'm ok with how they adapted it. I think the Caliope adaptation was pretty good.

My only issue with it is the same as some of the other parts of the show where Morpheus is way too emotional. I'm starting to sorta dislike the Morpheus casting. Feels like the weakest link. It's just such a different take on the character with how emo emotional he is.

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« Reply #19306 on: August 21, 2022, 03:59:07 AM »
https://twitter.com/neilhimself/status/1561206617319809024


So yeah, confirmation there that this is a super fucking expensive show and with Netflix penny pinching currently after the stock drop, it's gonna be an uphill battle to keep this show going. Hope they get S2 in so we can get Seasons of Mist, but getting continually renewed to do the entire comic run seems like a pipe dream.

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« Reply #19307 on: August 21, 2022, 10:23:55 AM »
This show made me have a dream i was having a threesome with she hulk and the lawyer persona at the same time

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« Reply #19308 on: August 21, 2022, 12:57:18 PM »
Saw a post from Gaiman about originally going for HBO. He posts a lot and Twitter sucks and I can’t find it. But were it HBO (not Max) a second season wouldn’t be so up in the air. Who knows if it would’ve been as well received week to week. Netflix is a strange platform.

Can’t watch it at the moment. Surprised how highly it’s been spoken about. On the lead up people were saying Netflix would ruin Sandman, citing Cowboy Bebop and the like. Worst I’ve seen after the premiere is indifference.

There’s also preemptive dumping in the lord of the rings show. The game of thrones prequel, honestly, I just learned it’s premiering tonight. Been out of the loop there. But “nerd” shows tend to fall into a cycle.

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« Reply #19309 on: August 21, 2022, 01:18:56 PM »
Netflix always cancels their good shows. We know this for a fact. The die was cast for Sandman before the first episode even aired.

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« Reply #19310 on: August 21, 2022, 01:24:56 PM »
Netflix always cancels their good shows. We know this for a fact. The die was cast for Sandman before the first episode even aired.

Well, more that Netflix cancels expensive shows. At the end of the day the problem just comes down to money. Sandman S1 was greenlight and paid for before Netflix had all their losses this year. Modern Netflix would have never financed something like that in the first place. So it's tricky. It has to be a huge success for Netflix to the point where they think it can be like The Witcher or Stranger Things and bring people to the channel in mass, or else it's not gonna be worth the cost of S2.

So far it's a pretty big worldwide success. But maybe not at Stranger Things/Squid Game level of views, so it's iffy atm.

Also re: HBO, if it was HBO Max show it might not have a better chance either rn given all the fuckery there  :lol

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« Reply #19311 on: August 21, 2022, 04:45:49 PM »
Netflix always cancels their good shows.

Well, more that Netflix cancels expensive shows.


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« Reply #19312 on: August 21, 2022, 06:46:35 PM »
Ya, that's called a BIG hit. Sandman ain't that big of hit despite being the top-streamed show worldwide on every streaming channel for the last two weeks straight, which is the problem

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« Reply #19313 on: August 21, 2022, 08:23:02 PM »
Sandman is the kind of show that people watch "because it's there" the same way people watched Birdbox despite the fact it had bad reviews and bad word of mouth.

Can’t watch it at the moment. Surprised how highly it’s been spoken about. On the lead up people were saying Netflix would ruin Sandman, citing Cowboy Bebop and the like. Worst I’ve seen after the premiere is indifference.

I watched 4-5 episodes and stopped. It's bad. Maybe the people who didn't like it are just too polite to say because they don't want to be thought of as "person who hates popular thing".

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« Reply #19314 on: August 21, 2022, 08:54:12 PM »

Great ending, but Six Feet Under and The Shield both had better endings.

The Shield should have ended with season 5. Instead it dragged on and became absolutely unbelievable dog shit. It was literally a bunch of Scooby Doo episodes

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« Reply #19315 on: August 21, 2022, 09:43:16 PM »

Great ending, but Six Feet Under and The Shield both had better endings.

The Shield should have ended with season 5. Instead it dragged on and became absolutely unbelievable dog shit. It was literally a bunch of Scooby Doo episodes
You take that back. You can say that about dogshit like Sons of Anarchy, but The Shield remained great throughout.

The ending killed regardless.
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« Reply #19316 on: August 22, 2022, 05:28:03 AM »
Who didn't love emo Vic in series 6? :jeanluc
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« Reply #19317 on: August 22, 2022, 05:36:29 AM »
stranger things was never a good show.

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« Reply #19318 on: August 22, 2022, 06:22:10 AM »
I think Sandmans problem with regard to budgetting is that it was never intended to be a TV series, and the way they're being almost slavishly faithful to the source material means there's not a lot of budget trimming they can do, other than hire unknowns for the cast or have CW level SFX.

Assuming similar treatment to S1, S2 introduces the rest of the endless, revisits Hell, introduces (at the least) the Norse, Egyptian and Shinto pantheons, would likely introduce and foreshadow the Faerie, and cover the consequences of the dead roaming the earth, ending with the appearance of Abrahamic angels.

And thats the first half of the season. the Second half is entirely Never Ending Story, with (again) mostly all new characters, all new sets and locations, and heavily CG driven.

There's really not a lot of opportunity to do a couple of bottle episodes to stretch the budget.

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« Reply #19319 on: August 22, 2022, 11:26:35 AM »
Maybe Sandman should have been animation?

Though that wouldn't have exactly saved it from cancellation at Netflix either, with everything happening in that field.