Game

[Ichirou]

I wouldn't mind a Lost Odyssey sequel so long as they got rid of Uchi-guchi as writer.  Seriously, LO's plot was so unbelievably predictable and generic.  Ask the guy who wrote the short stories to compose the main plot.

[TripleA]

Hopefully Versus will have multiplayer, it would be awesome to battle other players in a Pokemon-esque online arena.

Get that shit out of here.

I know I'd spend a lot of hours playing VS13 if it had some kickass multiplayer. I mean, I get that Final Fantasy players don't want multiplayer, but think about it; Chocobo VS Chocobo in a bigass arena each with different stats and abilities.

That shit would be awesome.

[Beezy]

I wouldn't mind a Lost Odyssey sequel so long as they got rid of Uchi-guchi as writer.  Seriously, LO's plot was so unbelievably predictable and generic.  Ask the guy who wrote the short stories to compose the main plot.

No argument there. Also, make sure the kids are grown if they have to be in it.

[Ichirou]

I wouldn't mind a Lost Odyssey sequel so long as they got rid of Uchi-guchi as writer.  Seriously, LO's plot was so unbelievably predictable and generic.  Ask the guy who wrote the short stories to compose the main plot.

No argument there. Also, make sure the kids are grown if they have to be in it.

Agreed.  The only other things I would request is that they streamline the whole ring crafting system (there were way too many rings and switching them out battle-to-battle was a pain), and get rid of level caps for each area (where after you reach a certain level, the XP you get from a fight dwindles to nothing).  Fix those three glaring flaws and a Lost Odyssey sequel could really be amazing.

[MCD]

level cap was good u grindfag.

[recursivelyenumerable]

I would like to see an RPG that actually started giving you negative XP after too many battles in an area, just to piss off the grindfags

[demi]

oh NOW Lost Odyssey is amazing

[Ichirou]

LO is not amazing, it's generic pap.  A sequel could be amazing if they actually, y'know, fixed its numerous problems.

Using the PD Scale-o-Meter, LO would rank like a 6.5322 out of 10.

[Ichirou]

level cap was good u grindfag.

Level cap was fucking shit because you usually hit it around when you were in the middle of exploring the area and it made every single battle afterwards completely fucking pointless.

[Bebpo]

oh NOW Lost Odyssey is amazing

It's not.  It's a good rpg, but not a great one.  Kinda like FFXIII.

now Blue Dragon on the other hand...
Shame all the BD sequels were on DS.  A BD2 on X360 could've been zomg

[Ichirou]

Maybe if BD had sold twice what it actually did on 360 that could've been a reality.

Instead, Mistwalker has now moved on to the fucking Wii.

[MCD]

you will still have lots of skills to learn so it is not pointless.

[Beezy]

oh NOW Lost Odyssey is amazing

I really liked it, but I'm not gonna call it amazing. First game I almost got 1000/1000 for, but I didn't know what skills my immortals were missing and treasure trove is a bitch. Had to settle for 900/1000.

[Himu]

Hopefully Versus will have multiplayer, it would be awesome to battle other players in a Pokemon-esque online arena.

Get that shit out of here.

I know I'd spend a lot of hours playing VS13 if it had some kickass multiplayer. I mean, I get that Final Fantasy players don't want multiplayer, but think about it; Chocobo VS Chocobo in a bigass arena each with different stats and abilities.

That shit would be awesome.

Buy another game. Get out.

[Bebpo]

I think the problem is that all the Mistwalker X360 games (well uh, the 2 of them) were two teams first projects.  So they had a lot of good in them but they weren't perfect and didn't make everyone happy.  In an ideal world, the sales would have been ok, MS would have financed sequels and the two teams would have come out with new rpgs based on their experience with the X360 and feedback from gamers/reviews.  They would have been more "grown-up" products.
But unfortunately even though LO sold pretty decent and BD was the best selling game in Japan, MS didn't finance sequels and the teams went on to DS/Wii and N3-2 

[Beezy]

I think the problem is that all the Mistwalker X360 games (well uh, the 2 of them) were two teams first projects.  So they had a lot of good in them but they weren't perfect and didn't make everyone happy.  In an ideal world, the sales would have been ok, MS would have financed sequels and the two teams would have come out with new rpgs based on their experience with the X360 and feedback from gamers/reviews.  They would have been more "grown-up" products.
But unfortunately even though LO sold pretty decent and BD was the best selling game in Japan, MS didn't finance sequels and the teams went on to DS/Wii and N3-2 

*sigh* Who ever thought that there would actually be a gen where a Tales game sits at the top of the traditional jrpg throne? :'(

[Beezy]

Before anyone responds to my last post...

FUCK HANDHELD RPGS

[recursivelyenumerable]

I'd prefer if battles in an RPG actually posed a threat so they don't need to give you XP to have a "point".  Wishful thinking in today's world, I know.

[demi]

Ok guys, good jokes. Lost Odyssey not a good game... right

[Mr. Gundam]

Hopefully Versus will have multiplayer, it would be awesome to battle other players in a Pokemon-esque online arena.

Get that shit out of here.

I know I'd spend a lot of hours playing VS13 if it had some kickass multiplayer. I mean, I get that Final Fantasy players don't want multiplayer, but think about it; Chocobo VS Chocobo in a bigass arena each with different stats and abilities.

That shit would be awesome.

WHAT PART OF MY POST DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? GET THAT SHIT OUT OF HERE.

[TEEEPO]

the game has pretty graphics and shit. day one.

[Phoenix Dark]

LO is not amazing, it's generic pap.  A sequel could be amazing if they actually, y'know, fixed its numerous problems.

Using the PD Scale-o-Meter, LO would rank like a 6.5322 out of 10.

Rating jRPGs on my scale results in automatic 2.69/10.

American beats Japan again

[Ichirou]

That's fair.

I don't think LO is a good game, but I will say the concept was great and the potential for greatness is still there for a good sequel.

It's certainly no Mass Effect.  Mass Effect shits all over Lost Odyssey.

[recursivelyenumerable]

I think reviewers should just use arbitrary fractions for their scores and change the denominator every time.  That way, at least stupid people would have a harder time comparing scores.  If that doesn't work you could move to using roots of polynomials.

[Ichirou]

You tell 'em, Steve Dave!

[demi]

It's certainly no Mass Effect.  Mass Effect shits all over Lost Odyssey.

now this is rofl.

[maxy]

LO

FF13

[demi]

In Demispace, Mass Effect 2 would be an acceptable answer. As far as we're concerned the first doesnt exist. What a trash game

[Ichirou]

It's better than Advent Rising.

[MCD]

I don't have time to justify myself to your viewers. I have a galaxy to save, excuse me.

[Third]

I'd be glad if FFXIII is just as good as LO. LO is awesome.
Blue Dragon, on the other hand, is absolute trash. I'm sure FFXIII is better than BD.

[magus]

I don't have time to justify myself to your viewers. I have a galaxy to catch, excuse me.

fixed

[Jansen]

is there really screen tearing in the ps3 version? i've looked for evidence and found NONE.

crossing my fingers that there isn't any tearing!

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I thought Blue Dragon was great.  It's old school gameplay in a modern package.  It had a lot of potential for a great series but considering Mistwalker frittered away its potential on the DS, I guess it won't.

I put FFXIII on my Gamefly queue so I'll probably get it in April or some shit.  It will probably be crusted with many layers of fanboy jism.

[maxy]

MS owns Blue Dragon IP.No?

[Lucretius]

Lost Odyssey is still the only real Final Fantasy game since X.

I loved XII though and I'm sure I'll find plenty to love about XIII.

[WrikaWrek]

I'm spending my time playing Vesperia, which is awesome.

  FFXIII

[FatalT]

I traded in some old crappy 360 games and pre-ordered this for the 360 and bought Heavy Rain for PS3. I'll be going to the midnight release tomorrow weeeee!

[Bebpo]

People are making too big of deal about this game because they took too damn long to bring it out (even though they made it in < 2 years.

The game took around 6 years to make with multiple iterations and across two generations of systems. They were also using the time to fine tune their Crystal Tools set for easy next-generation development (lol).

The actual production period was like 1.5 years and then .5 years of polishing according to the development history that was leaked.  There was a lot of pre-production and time spent going "what should we do", but the actual game only took about 2 years to make.  SE saw the PS3 tanking at release and didn't want to fund hundreds of staff working on it so they all worked on other projects with only the few core staff on the game until SE was finally serious about making it and then the real team came in and made it in a very reasonable time.

There's no reason why SE couldn't have a mainline HD FF out every 2 years if they wanted to.

[Himu]

That leaked ps3 pic wasn't from FF13 ps2. It was from the Rkku side game they were going to make: FFX-3, essentially.

[Himu]

I remember back when FFX-2 came out, it was rumored they were also making a Rikku side game.

So the Rikku side game essentially turned into FF13.

[Himu]

I really hope they can give us FF13 Versus in maybe a year. But...

[Beezy]

All I want from them after this is Grandia 4 and Valkyrie Profile 3. Is Crystal Tools only for FF development teams?

[Trent Dole]

Rikku

Paine

[recursivelyenumerable]

That leaked ps3 pic wasn't from FF13 ps2. It was from the Rkku side game they were going to make: FFX-3, essentially.

No, it was from FF13 PS2.  They were just using FFX-2 and FFXII models as placeholders.  There was never any Rikku side game.

[Bebpo]

Rikku

Paine

Rikku's for pedophiles.

And Paine's for guys who like men.

FFX Yuna <3 <3

[Himu]

That leaked ps3 pic wasn't from FF13 ps2. It was from the Rkku side game they were going to make: FFX-3, essentially.

No, it was from FF13 PS2.  They were just using FFX-2 and FFXII models as placeholders.  There was never any Rikku side game.

Then why was there ever a Rikku sidegame rumored?

[recursivelyenumerable]

It was a misquote or something, I forget exactly.

[demi]

Uh

Lulu > any of the chicks posted

Get REAL you neckbeard goons

[Ichirou]

All the FFX chicks suck except the blonde villain chick from X-2.

[demi]

Well frankly I think you're a homo, Ichirou. Prove me wrong

[Ichirou]

...I can't. 

[Third]

I would probably bang all the chicks in FF.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

and the dudes who look like chicks, too

[close]

AND MY COPY HAS ARRIVED!!!
But I won't be able to play it today. Fuck.

[magus]

I would probably bang all the chicks in FF.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

and the dudes who look like chicks, too

[close]

AND MY COPY HAS ARRIVED!!!
But I won't be able to play it today. Fuck.

but what about the loli?

[dark1x]

OK, so hearing about the "tube" level design, I'm curious how representative this map is of the typical areas in this game...



This type of map seems no more linear than what you see in games like Mass Effect 2 or a number of other standard JRPGs.  Is this map an exception then?

[demi]

^ I've already told the irony in that BioWare games are no different.

[AdmiralViscen]

Maybe I should try my hand at FF12 again one day.

[demi]

That looks like linear tubes to me too 

[dark1x]

the problem ain't with BioWare games having linear maps

the problem is that completely linear FF13 comes from this:

Borys, that FF12 map still doesn't appear all that wide open.

Every FF game is different from the last, however, and FF12 was far and away the most open ended game in the series.  What I'm saying is, the dungeons in FFXIII don't really seem all that different from many of the older installments in the series.

[dark1x]

This is just one map I googled. The point is the whole world in FF12 was open-ended. You could travel from one point on the west side to the other on the east side via different routes/ maps. AFAIK FF13 has none of that.

Nor has any other game in the series.  FFXII was a unique game and it was naive to expect another one.  That never ever happens with the series.

I don't think anyone expected it to be as linear as it is, but they also shouldn't have expected another XII.