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https://twitter.com/dnvolz/status/1050087740685963264

Batman is too busy working for the Russian state rn
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The most cynical thing about those Russians dissidents who get killed by Moscow are the 'cover stories' that are cooked up that make it look so obvious that the Kremlin was behind it.
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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1050147756675870721

It's astonishing to me that I can literally ask someone "so, you want to vote for the same party responsible for the biggest corruption and recession in this countries history..."

and then they look at me with a stupid stink face and say something dumb like "uh yeah well it's better than fascism" or "I'm for women rights/gay rights" or some other media manipulated bullshit.

It's so fucking dumb. People are FUCKING DUMB.

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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1050147756675870721

It's astonishing to me that I can literally ask someone "so, you want to vote for the same party responsible for the biggest corruption and recession in this countries history..."

and then they look at me with a stupid stink face and say something dumb like "uh yeah well it's better than fascism" or "I'm for women rights/gay rights" or some other media manipulated bullshit.

It's so fucking dumb. People are FUCKING DUMB.
All I'm reading is this guy is helped by Steve Bannon!

If you believe the press, Steve Bannon and Vladimir Putin pretty much run the entire planet with their stooges by now.
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To be fair there are a lot of similarities in their campaign for president. . They couldn't be more different personality wise though.

I understand people and their concern in voting him in, I totally get the risk, but what is the alternative at this point? It's either him or the party responsible for the catastrophe that is this country.

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https://twitter.com/andreum/status/1050224596186800130

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Ah yes the media doing its liberal media thang.

First, cops never said that. Second, both sides have been violent or are we going to forget the presidential candidate was actually fucking stabbed by a nut bag that opposed him and his party? Third, Bolsonaro already condemned the men and asked for justice.

But ya let's attribute all the extreme crazies out there with whatever party they associate with.

Keep it

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To be fair to the brazilian police, those cunts did fuck it up and carved a sauvastika, not a swastika. It's linked with Kali, so there's that.

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The guy is going to get elected. Throwing a tantrum isn't going to change things.  :idont
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It's astonishing to me that I can literally ask someone "so, you want to vote for the same party responsible for the biggest corruption and recession in this countries history..."

and then they look at me with a stupid stink face and say something dumb like "uh yeah well it's better than fascism" or "I'm for women rights/gay rights" or some other media manipulated bullshit.

It's so fucking dumb. People are FUCKING DUMB.

Youre either a fucking idiot or 16 or both.

Remind me, was the hyper inflation and stagnating economy in Brazils past caused by the big scary communists....

Or the far right military dictatorship?
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It's astonishing to me that I can literally ask someone "so, you want to vote for the same party responsible for the biggest corruption and recession in this countries history..."

and then they look at me with a stupid stink face and say something dumb like "uh yeah well it's better than fascism" or "I'm for women rights/gay rights" or some other media manipulated bullshit.

It's so fucking dumb. People are FUCKING DUMB.

Youre either a fucking idiot or 16 or both.

Remind me, was the hyper inflation and stagnating economy in Brazils past caused by the big scary communists....

Or the far right military dictatorship?
What does that have to do with anything you fucking shit brain? Stagnation and inflation has also happened under democracy in the United States and across Europe and no one is electing the Brazilian dictatorship from the past into office right now lolll wtff lol

I love how libtarsds throw out these irrelevant statements "but but what about hitler!" uhhh?? what? what does hitler have to do with a guy in Latin America 50+ years later? lol

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It's astonishing to me that I can literally ask someone "so, you want to vote for the same party responsible for the biggest corruption and recession in this countries history..."

and then they look at me with a stupid stink face and say something dumb like "uh yeah well it's better than fascism" or "I'm for women rights/gay rights" or some other media manipulated bullshit.

It's so fucking dumb. People are FUCKING DUMB.

Youre either a fucking idiot or 16 or both.

Remind me, was the hyper inflation and stagnating economy in Brazils past caused by the big scary communists....

Or the far right military dictatorship?
What does that have to do with anything you fucking shit brain? Stagnation and inflation has also happened under democracy in the United States and across Europe and no one is electing the Brazilian dictatorship from the past into office right now lolll wtff lol

I love how libtarsds throw out these irrelevant statements "but but what about hitler!" uhhh?? what? what does hitler have to do with a guy in Latin America 50+ years later? lol

Read over what you wrote, sit down, write it out on paper, and then think a bit.

Maybe youll see it
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Yeah, libs are dumb all over the world. They think any opponent they do not like is automatically Hitler or a fascist. It's a cliche at this point.

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Assimilate is a fascist who hates gays and black people.

I am shocked

woahhhhh what? nice slanderous hot take.


I hate how nobody pointed out that slander is a spoken thing. It's libel when it's written.


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Who the hell runs this account for him? :wtf

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Who the hell runs this account for him? :wtf

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American mercs carrying out assassinations for the UAE in Yemen

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When it was time to go, they convinced the hotel staff to give them the US flag flying outside, Gilmore said. In a makeshift ceremony, they folded it up into a small triangle and took it with them.
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It’s unclear exactly what went wrong.

Right before the mercenary reached the front door, carrying the explosive charge meant to kill Mayo, one of his fellow fighters at the back of the SUV opened fire, shooting along the backstreet.

There was a drone high overhead, and the video, obtained by BuzzFeed News, shows gunfire but not what the American is shooting at. The drone video doesn’t show anyone shooting back at the mercenaries.
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Mayo seems to have reemerged in Yemeni politics. In May he was nominated to a post by the president of Yemen, Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi, according to Charles Schmitz, a specialist on the Middle East and Yemen at Towson University in Maryland. Schmitz said he found a recent photo of Mayo standing in a group with the UN envoy to Yemen.

Golan maintains that, at the very least, Mayo was neutralized for a time. “For me it’s a success,” he said, “as long as the guy disappeared.”


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American mercs carrying out assassinations for the UAE in Yemen

Come for the terrifying vision of the future of warfare, stay for the affirmation that elite military operatives are doofuses:

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When it was time to go, they convinced the hotel staff to give them the US flag flying outside, Gilmore said. In a makeshift ceremony, they folded it up into a small triangle and took it with them.
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It’s unclear exactly what went wrong.

Right before the mercenary reached the front door, carrying the explosive charge meant to kill Mayo, one of his fellow fighters at the back of the SUV opened fire, shooting along the backstreet.

There was a drone high overhead, and the video, obtained by BuzzFeed News, shows gunfire but not what the American is shooting at. The drone video doesn’t show anyone shooting back at the mercenaries.
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Mayo seems to have reemerged in Yemeni politics. In May he was nominated to a post by the president of Yemen, Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi, according to Charles Schmitz, a specialist on the Middle East and Yemen at Towson University in Maryland. Schmitz said he found a recent photo of Mayo standing in a group with the UN envoy to Yemen.

Golan maintains that, at the very least, Mayo was neutralized for a time. “For me it’s a success,” he said, “as long as the guy disappeared.”
The best part is the shitty business cards that make it look like a COD clan and the target card that is lifted straight from a 90's action movie.
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Omfg, how did I miss the WSJ endorsing Bolsonaro

I didn't post it here when I saw it, sorry.

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He's pretty much going to win. The dollar keeps dropping, I'm not even sure I'm happy about this

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Omfg, how did I miss the WSJ endorsing Bolsonaro

American industry has wanted to loot the rain forests for decades. This clown will probably let them do it. Much to the detriment of the earth.
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Omfg, how did I miss the WSJ endorsing Bolsonaro

American industry has wanted to loot the rain forests for decades. This clown will probably let them do it. Much to the detriment of the earth.
Loot the rain forests? Brazil can't produce much fucking food if it doesn't manage to plow pieces of land for crops. This isn't about big bad American industry bro.

Or do you believe the rest of the world is goin to feed one of the biggest populations for free??

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Maybe, maybe not. It's not just Americans that want a piece either.
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Cant we just annex saudi arabia?


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Brazil is the biggest coffee exporter in the world. If hunger is a growing concern maybe they should consider cutting back on the cash cropping first.

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Cant we just annex saudi arabia?

Could just stop buying their oil.

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Cut off the nose to spite the face? Brazil is facing a lack of investment and industry, no need to get rid of an important revenue source, especially when coffee is one of the few luxury goods where local farmers have a lot more control over profit margins than we've seen historically in these exploited areas.

Narrator: Kara is a communist.

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I think Kara's point is that the rainforests aren't being chopped down to increase the food supply but for commodity production.

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Assimilate presented a false dilemma to impeach a (specious) argument that the Wall Street Journal endorsed a candidate in Brazil's election because he will open up the country to being peripheralized. That false dilemma was either Brazil engages in (more) deforestation or it faces food insecurity. Brazil has plenty of existing arable land; it's generally classified as a breadbasket. That was the point in bringing up coffee.

The country exports food (it might be the largest after the U.S. and E.U., even) while having hunger issues, btw.

A top ten national economy facing a lack of investment and industry is sort of a prima facie absurd claim too, but that's going on a tangent from a tangent.

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I'm sure people realize this but it should be said that cutting down the rain forest is a suicidal act that will make it much more difficult to keep the planet habitable

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because while things will certainly be bad the degree of badness is uncertain and depends on the actions we take now

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Assimilate presented a false dilemma to impeach a (specious) argument that the Wall Street Journal endorsed a candidate in Brazil's election because he will open up the country to being peripheralized.
There's many reasons to endorse him over the party responsible for a massive corruption scandal that left the country in it's current situation. How anyone can even begin to defend Lula, and the PT party in general is absolutely fucking crazy.

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That false dilemma was either Brazil engages in (more) deforestation or it faces food insecurity. Brazil has plenty of existing arable land; it's generally classified as a breadbasket. That was the point in bringing up coffee.

The country exports food (it might be the largest after the U.S. and E.U., even) while having hunger issues, btw.

This is recent thing. Maybe in the last 10-15 years once they figured out how to make the soil more fertile . But it's actually not that big a piece of land that is used for farming. Not enough to sustain a country of this size. You've never been to a supermarket here have you?

The biggest exports are currently soy and chicken.

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A top ten national economy facing a lack of investment and industry is sort of a prima facie absurd claim too, but that's going on a tangent from a tangent.
Facing a lack of investment? Yes, people are scared to do business here. Do you know anything at all about this situation or are you just spitting socialist bullshit out of your mouth?

Brazil is one of the toughest places to do business, add in the lack of faith now because of corruptions in all levels of government and you have less investment coming into the country than ever before. It's a big economy because there are a lot of people here. That's not going to mean anything to people when there's unemployment levels of 13-20 million.


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Since this is a good segue, frankly I don't understand how any of you still have any kind of optimism left regarding climate and have not adopted a pessimistic fatalism

Because Jesus will come save us before shit gets too bad.  :doge
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because while things will certainly be bad the degree of badness is uncertain and depends on the actions we take now
India and China are opening more and more coal plants.

The only action we can take now is kill half the planet or hope that someone figures something out before doomsday as always.
We're way past the point of no return in terms of industrialization and environmental pollution.
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India and China are opening more and more coal plants.

The US emits roughly ten times as much CO2 per capita as India does. The EU about five times as much. The Netherlands six times as much.

Fucking up basic, obvious truths so you can blame swarthy foreigners? At least the post is on brand.

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India and China are opening more and more coal plants.

The US emits roughly ten times as much CO2 per capita as India does. The EU about five times as much. The Netherlands six times as much.

Fucking up basic, obvious truths so you can blame swarthy foreigners? At least the post is on brand.

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Asia comprises 75% of all CO2 emissions and Europe and the US combined comprises 15%.  Who cares about the per capita emissions of Luxembourg if it's not going to ameliorate the large-scale problem.

to start with this is literally not true

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Asia comprises 75% of all CO2 emissions and Europe and the US combined comprises 15%.  Who cares about the per capita emissions of Luxembourg if it's not going to ameliorate the large-scale problem.

to start with this is literally not true

  :badass  oops.
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Thanks for posting a graph to prove my point?

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Thanks for posting a graph to prove my point?

So, it is.

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India and China are opening more and more coal plants.

The US emits roughly ten times as much CO2 per capita as India does. The EU about five times as much. The Netherlands six times as much.

Fucking up basic, obvious truths so you can blame swarthy foreigners? At least the post is on brand.
The point is that if we put up a windmill someone else puts down a coal plant.

In fact, the 'Energiewende' that the Germans enacted completely failed. They shuttered their nuclear and coal plants too soon and are now more dependent on Russian energy and gas.
Which is produced pretty much without any regard for environmental regulations.

The Netherlands is unique when it comes to geography because our country is so damn small. The population density is about 500/600 people per km2
For India that number is ~200 per km2 for China ~150. The United States 36 km2.

That's also why our CO2 emissions are so damn high. Even though the most commonly used method of transportation is a bicycle.

Also a huge chunk of our nation is just water or lands that are designated to be flooded by water in case of rising tides.

Not to mention that historically developing nations have higher levels of pollution. Until a certain point when the citizens are more concerned with their well being than economic growth. 
China and India or large parts of it still care more about economic growth than the environment. And the environmentalists overall are losing the battle.
Other nations such as Russia and now even the United States have prioritized economic growth above all else.

As a planet we depend too much on our energy, gas and way of living to really make a turn in terms of global warming and the environment.
It's kinda like the prisoners dilemma. After all, the first one who goes 'green' likely loses the economic battle. Germany's energy market is a prime example.
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the problem is that you're a dumb person generally and also clearly know nothing about this subject

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I can give you another example.
We've shut down nearly all our nuclear power. There's one generator left which is mainly used for medical research purposes.

The Belgians have an old reactor that has overheated and leaked a couple of times right on our border and they're not shutting it down.

There's no benefit to kneecapping your own economy by enacting strict environmental regulations and producing clean energy.
Countries that produce clean energy focus on it because there's an economic incentive or because they don't want to rely on natural resources or energy resources from abroad.
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I hope I live to see time travel so I can go back in time and use your posts to convince your mom to abort you.
This was funny, I was going to give you a like for this, but then I realized you're aids.

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I can give you another example.
We've shut down nearly all our nuclear power. There's one generator left which is mainly used for medical research purposes.

The Belgians have an old reactor that has overheated and leaked a couple of times right on our border and they're not shutting it down.

There's no benefit to kneecapping your own economy by enacting strict environmental regulations and producing clean energy.
Countries that produce clean energy focus on it because there's an economic incentive or because they don't want to rely on natural resources or energy resources from abroad.
Literally whenever I read these well even if I do something good someone else is doing something BAD so i better not do anything GOOD type posts my brain leaks out of my ears

not the mention nuclear fearmongering, is it the 50s? I'd take more nuclear, the 8000x more efficient method with no greenhouse gas over more fucking coal any day of the week.

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Is Nintex dutch?

Because thats the fucking Dutch mentality.

I wont do the right thing as long as someone else is doing something bad. Every time I talk to Dutch people it boils down to this.

Or Dutch people opposing wind energy because it will ruin the view LOL.

Fucking cop outs.
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On the plus side whenever sea levels rise they'll be the first to go :yeshrug

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I litteraly have friends who live on the coast, in one of the most endangered streches, well below sea level, who opposed building a wind farm of the coast because it will ruin the view from the beach.


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 :usacry remembering a better time with our middle east allies :usacry

https://www.si.com/vault/1967/05/08/609343/his-majesty-the-leadfoot

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HIS MAJESTY, THE LEADFOOT

A THOROUGHLY MODERN SPORTSMAN-MONARCH, KING HUSSEIN OF JORDAN HOPES TO LEAD BACKWARD ELEMENTS OF HIS COUNTRY INTO THE PRESENT BY THE FORCE OF HIS EXAMPLE. THE KING'S ATHLETIC RANGE IS UNUSUALLY WIDE, AND HIS SKILLS ARE IMPRESSIVE

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I litteraly have friends who live on the coast, in one of the most endangered streches, well below sea level, who opposed building a wind farm of the coast because it will ruin the view from the beach.
you wouldn't happen to be talking about CapeWind by any chance

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Or Dutch people opposing wind energy because it will ruin the view LOL.
Same in Germany. We've got problems efficiently distributing electricity from renewables, but some people are against new grid infrastructure (and before that, windmills) for exactly this reason.

Yay, renewables, but not in MY backyard. :picard

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And people say the left has become snobby, its because the general public is dumb af

I litteraly have friends who live on the coast, in one of the most endangered streches, well below sea level, who opposed building a wind farm of the coast because it will ruin the view from the beach.
you wouldn't happen to be talking about CapeWind by any chance

Nope, but reading up on it its a bit the same scenario but in our case it wasnt millionaires battling against it just regular folks

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this reminds of a lucifer episode where a lady murders some people for going on a public beach because it spoiled the view from her kitchen or something

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The IDF is moving their forces towards Gaza. One Reuters reporter spotted 60 vehicles at a staging site.
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