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« Reply #6240 on: June 16, 2019, 03:09:31 PM »
every older person should die  8)
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« Reply #6242 on: June 17, 2019, 02:36:53 PM »
I guess that's one problem for the Egyptian rulers that took care of itself. :doge
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« Reply #6243 on: June 17, 2019, 02:50:17 PM »
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1140657860235464704
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"Dowd, remember who I'm talking to," Trump says in the book, reportedly referring to el-Sisi. "The guy's a f---ing killer. This guy's a f---ng killer! I'm getting it done."

Trump added el-Sisi will "make you sweat on the phone," before launching into an impression of el-Sissi: "Donald, I'm worried about this investigation. Are you going to be around? Suppose I need a favor, Donald?"

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« Reply #6244 on: June 17, 2019, 04:00:05 PM »
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« Reply #6245 on: June 17, 2019, 05:02:58 PM »
Is Jerusalem Post a real source am I being fake newsd
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Diplomatic sources at the UN headquarters in New York revealed to Maariv that they are assessing the United States' plans to carry out a tactical assault on Iran in response to the tanker attack in the Persian Gulf on Thursday.
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The sources added that President Trump himself was not enthusiastic about a military move against Iran, but lost his patience on the matter and would grant Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who is pushing for action, what he wants.

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The Palestinian enclave of Gaza is a major global hotspot with potential for extreme violence. Nearly isolated from the world since Hamas took control of it in 2007, it has been a poverty -ridden corner of the world. It is a regular launching pad for rocket attacks against southern Israel and a training ground for Islamist terrorists. Israel has carried out three major operations in the territory since relinquishing it unilaterally in 2005.

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Antisemitism is hostility towards or prejudice against the Jewish people. Since biblical times, Jews experienced periods in which they were persecuted for refusing to adopt the religion and culture of the ruling societies in which they lived. The rise of Christianity and perception of Jews as rejectors of Jesus led to a rise in antisemitism.

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The region known as the Middle East has been conquered and reconquered by every super power in the West. This has created a region rich in a culture of resistance and thousands of ethnic groups looking for their piece of land. This has created a complicated region and Jpost's Middle East News simplifies it.

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Health and Science are two of the most developed sectors in Israel and the country is a powerhouse of medical innovation with many game-changing medical advances being made on a regular basis. 'Health and Science' provides you with the latest updates on Israel's health trends, health tips, news and fitness.as well as the cutting edge scientific discoveries and advancements.

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE



https://www.jpost.com/genesis/genesis.aspx


They are really in love with the idea of Israel.  :doge

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« Reply #6246 on: June 17, 2019, 05:04:10 PM »
I too am in love at the idea of my own existence.
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« Reply #6247 on: June 17, 2019, 05:16:31 PM »
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« Reply #6248 on: June 17, 2019, 05:19:50 PM »
It's no al-Ittihad, but what is.

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« Reply #6249 on: June 17, 2019, 05:23:54 PM »
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I see they are fans of Chapelle. "Just sprinkle some crack on him."
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« Reply #6250 on: June 17, 2019, 05:31:54 PM »
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« Reply #6251 on: June 17, 2019, 05:39:25 PM »
Trump starting WW3 because he lost his patience with John Bolton and Mike Pompeo would be the most on brand thing that has ever happened on this planet.
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« Reply #6252 on: June 17, 2019, 05:43:22 PM »
It's no al-Ittihad, but what is.

I didn‘t know you were a Saudi football aficionado. :obama
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« Reply #6253 on: June 17, 2019, 08:22:56 PM »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/raptors-rally-shooting-1.5178886

almost went to this with a friend - he came back to work rather freaked out

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« Reply #6254 on: June 18, 2019, 01:31:10 PM »
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Dominic Raab has been knocked out of the Tory leadership race in the latest ballot of MPs, leaving five candidates in the battle to be the next PM.

Boris Johnson once again came top of the second ballot, with 126 votes - 12 more than in the first round.

Jeremy Hunt, Michael Gove, Sajid Javid and Rory Stewart also got enough votes to make it into the next round.

Mr Raab did not get through, after getting 30 votes, three less than the minimum needed.


I love how something as monumental as leaving the EU was a done deal after one dumb referendum no one really gave a shit about, but finding May's replacement is going to take nearly two months and like, 4 votes :lol

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« Reply #6255 on: June 18, 2019, 03:16:20 PM »
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1141029016956231680

Boris is doing better than expected :mynicca


All these candidates are fucking terrible



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Gove: "Jeremy Corbyn stands up for the Iranian regime not the average worker"

Jesus christ dude.  :lol
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« Reply #6257 on: June 19, 2019, 03:39:21 AM »
Chinese slacktivists really exposing themselves with the lack of protests, how bad can it be really if there's none ? (I didn't want to make a huge care post in the thread dedicated to shit impulses, but I thought the reasoning was a bit tautological to be honest.)



Soviet sluggish schizophrenia has been replaced with pre-crime, apparently.
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« Reply #6258 on: June 19, 2019, 12:01:02 PM »
Not hydrated enough, apparently. :idont

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« Reply #6259 on: June 19, 2019, 12:01:32 PM »
So...why was she shaking? Parkinsons? Low blood sugar? Putin's dog was out of frame? Nervous? Cold?

Reports came out that Greece was getting a 0.01% debt haircut.

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« Reply #6260 on: June 19, 2019, 12:03:03 PM »
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« Reply #6261 on: June 19, 2019, 12:05:08 PM »
Have you seen the numbers of the Deutsche Bank lately to only name one? Not great, we need every cent especially in these trying times of low rates.

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« Reply #6262 on: June 19, 2019, 12:09:10 PM »
Plus, the Nazis in the BRD look a lot better with Golden Dawn on the scene. :win

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« Reply #6263 on: June 19, 2019, 12:18:36 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

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« Reply #6264 on: June 19, 2019, 12:23:44 PM »
Clearly they weren't Turkish because the police figured that out in less than 10 years and multiple murders!

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« Reply #6265 on: June 19, 2019, 12:26:02 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

Have you heard the comments from Peter Tauber though?
Limit freedom of speech and freedom of assembly for people and parties who are against the constitution.

Like, breh, they have been able to do that since 1949. You only need the supreme court to state that a party is unconstitutional. How did that go during the NPD trial? :doge

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« Reply #6266 on: June 19, 2019, 12:29:55 PM »
Clearly they weren't Turkish because the police figured that out in less than 10 years and multiple murders!

Don‘t fotget that even though that it was one of, if not the biggest criminal trial in the last 25 years, that the evidence against Zschäpe was extremely thin and the revision, if the case wasn‘t so politically charged, would have had extremely good chances to overturn the verdict.

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« Reply #6267 on: June 19, 2019, 12:44:01 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

Have you heard the comments from Peter Tauber though?
Limit freedom of speech and freedom of assembly for people and parties who are against the constitution.
It's paywalled, but his opener "it is now obvious that right-wing extremists not only rampage in social networks" makes me not want to read the rest anyway, so...  :doge

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« Reply #6268 on: June 19, 2019, 01:06:41 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

Have you heard the comments from Peter Tauber though?
Limit freedom of speech and freedom of assembly for people and parties who are against the constitution.

Like, breh, they have been able to do that since 1949. You only need the supreme court to state that a party is unconstitutional. How did that go during the NPD trial? :doge


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« Reply #6269 on: June 19, 2019, 01:16:56 PM »
Learn from the master Maduro.

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« Reply #6270 on: June 19, 2019, 01:53:08 PM »
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« Reply #6271 on: June 19, 2019, 04:20:52 PM »
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« Reply #6272 on: June 19, 2019, 04:26:20 PM »
Not hydrated enough, apparently. :idont

That's the go-to excuse for politicians who clearly should just retire :lol (see: Clinton's similar incident).

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« Reply #6273 on: June 19, 2019, 04:32:01 PM »
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« Reply #6274 on: June 19, 2019, 08:16:24 PM »
Canada resettled more refugees than any other country in 2018

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48696974

The country accepted just over 28,000 refugees last year, with the United States coming in second with 22,900.

Some 92,400 refugees were resettled globally in 2018, fewer than 7% of those awaiting resettlement worldwide.

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« Reply #6275 on: June 20, 2019, 04:02:26 AM »
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/iran-revolutionary-guard-shoots-spy-drone-report-190620035802427.html

What do you guys make of this? specifically about the claim that it was/wasnt over Iran airspace by the opposing sides.

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« Reply #6276 on: June 20, 2019, 04:12:00 AM »
I find it real convenient that Iran would poke the bear right after the US went back to squeezing them. Iran stands to lose a lot more, but then I don't know how fucked/desperate they are right now, economically.

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« Reply #6277 on: June 20, 2019, 04:21:50 AM »
I read a whole lot of other sources and the US claims the drone was 17 miles from the Iranian border, the drone in question has a speed of about 320mph. I can see a scenario where the drone crossed over into Iranian space, Iran fired a missile, the drone punched it and got ended outside of Iranian airspace, making both claims technically true (Iran shot while they were in their airspace and the US got hit outside of it).

This is just such a weird piece of escalation to me, why fuck around and risk shit happening that would lead to US soldiers again in the ME against a country backed by Russia. What's the gain here? Was this a failed intimidation tactic or the start of a series of events to lure Iran into a war?

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« Reply #6278 on: June 20, 2019, 04:28:35 AM »
A large segment of the US political class has wanted war with Iran for decades and has been pretty up front about it.

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« Reply #6279 on: June 20, 2019, 04:29:00 AM »
specifically about the claim that it was/wasnt over Iran airspace by the opposing sides.
That's pretty much what everyone says about everything that's ever been shot down. Probably dates back to the French-Prussian War at latest when the French sent up all kinds of useless balloons that tended to follow the wind instead of going where they wanted them to. IIRC, at one point during the Siege of Paris the French balloons were of more use to the Prussians because they'd drift over their lines and then the Prussians would interrogate the pilots, about the condition of the city, who obviously wouldn't get back to Paris until later. The Union and Confederate armies quickly stopped messing around with balloons in the American Civil War for much of the same reasons. Austria and France kept dabbling with them because Franz Joseph and Napoleon III were fanboys of them.

The Austrians were arguably the very first to try bombing from balloons, but they ran into a similar problem, at one point they loaded up like a hundred balloons with bombs to drop, and only one managed to do it, the wind blew all the rest back over the Austrians.

I read a whole lot of other sources and the US claims the drone was 17 miles from the Iranian border, the drone in question has a speed of about 320mph. I can see a scenario where the drone crossed over into Iranian space, Iran fired a missile, the drone punched it and got ended outside of Iranian airspace, making both claims technically true (Iran shot while they were in their airspace and the US got hit outside of it).

This is just such a weird piece of escalation to me, why fuck around and risk shit happening that would lead to US soldiers again in the ME against a country backed by Russia. What's the gain here? Was this a failed intimidation tactic or the start of a series of events to lure Iran into a war?
It's not real escalation. Border blasting of shit flying around has been a thing during all modern war. Everyone agrees to best maximize the propaganda value of it and then quietly settle things after. Since it's a drone a lot of the normal stuff is cut down, no bodies to recover, many drones are designed to crash on purpose at some point anyway, somebody gets to test their ability to shoot them down, etc.

The U.S. has much better ways of declaring a provocation requiring combat.

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« Reply #6280 on: June 20, 2019, 05:02:29 AM »
A large segment of the US political class has wanted war with Iran for decades and has been pretty up front about it.
I'll be honest, the strategy gamer in me would like to close that gap in our imperial holdings so as to reduce the need to maneuver our units around it.

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« Reply #6281 on: June 20, 2019, 05:13:34 AM »
STOP DEMANDING MY MUSIC IRAN, I WILL NOT HELP YOU OVERTAKE ME IN CULTURE

WHERE IS BOLTON

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« Reply #6282 on: June 20, 2019, 05:30:52 AM »
I just want them to stop trying to do espionage in my capital, I can't level up the spy there anymore

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« Reply #6283 on: June 20, 2019, 07:40:20 AM »
specifically about the claim that it was/wasnt over Iran airspace by the opposing sides.
That's pretty much what everyone says about everything that's ever been shot down. Probably dates back to the French-Prussian War at latest when the French sent up all kinds of useless balloons that tended to follow the wind instead of going where they wanted them to. IIRC, at one point during the Siege of Paris the French balloons were of more use to the Prussians because they'd drift over their lines and then the Prussians would interrogate the pilots, about the condition of the city, who obviously wouldn't get back to Paris until later. The Union and Confederate armies quickly stopped messing around with balloons in the American Civil War for much of the same reasons. Austria and France kept dabbling with them because Franz Joseph and Napoleon III were fanboys of them.

The Austrians were arguably the very first to try bombing from balloons, but they ran into a similar problem, at one point they loaded up like a hundred balloons with bombs to drop, and only one managed to do it, the wind blew all the rest back over the Austrians.

I read a whole lot of other sources and the US claims the drone was 17 miles from the Iranian border, the drone in question has a speed of about 320mph. I can see a scenario where the drone crossed over into Iranian space, Iran fired a missile, the drone punched it and got ended outside of Iranian airspace, making both claims technically true (Iran shot while they were in their airspace and the US got hit outside of it).

This is just such a weird piece of escalation to me, why fuck around and risk shit happening that would lead to US soldiers again in the ME against a country backed by Russia. What's the gain here? Was this a failed intimidation tactic or the start of a series of events to lure Iran into a war?
It's not real escalation. Border blasting of shit flying around has been a thing during all modern war. Everyone agrees to best maximize the propaganda value of it and then quietly settle things after. Since it's a drone a lot of the normal stuff is cut down, no bodies to recover, many drones are designed to crash on purpose at some point anyway, somebody gets to test their ability to shoot them down, etc.

The U.S. has much better ways of declaring a provocation requiring combat.
The reason I'm more worried about this is because it's Iran, when it comes to the ME, the US doesn't fuck around, even with flimsy motivations. I know they play these petty games in eastern Europe and Africa as well, but the chances of them ever doing something there is nil.

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« Reply #6284 on: June 20, 2019, 01:52:10 PM »
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1141754168488726528

Boris winning this on the advent of WW3 would be so on brand for him.
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« Reply #6285 on: June 20, 2019, 02:00:27 PM »
See you in just over a month (yes, you read that right) to know if the buffoon or the cunt won.

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« Reply #6286 on: June 20, 2019, 02:05:19 PM »
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This isn't quite as good as the headline of the year but it's still pretty good.

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« Reply #6287 on: June 20, 2019, 05:36:29 PM »
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This isn't quite as good as the headline of the year but it's still pretty good.

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« Reply #6289 on: June 21, 2019, 03:25:07 AM »
Could have at least go for no maam

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« Reply #6290 on: June 21, 2019, 07:06:59 AM »
wait, the commander-in-chief of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is General Salami?



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« Reply #6292 on: June 23, 2019, 02:07:40 PM »
Erdogan seems to have taken notes from the Theresay May school of politics LMAO

https://twitter.com/laurapitel/status/1142840151309205510
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« Reply #6293 on: June 23, 2019, 04:57:38 PM »
I'm not sure what Erdogan was thinking with that one. Obviously Istanbul mayoralty is a huge pulpit and springboard for national ambition (Erdogan is a former mayor of the city, after all), I understand why they didn't want to lose it but it's weird to waste so much political capital on a gamble.
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« Reply #6294 on: June 23, 2019, 05:37:15 PM »
Speaking of mayoral elections, France has jumped straight to pre-election maneuvering long in advance of the actual vote (unlike the European election, but that's a much more popular and important election). All of the mayors face polls on the same day, which the Germans find odd apparently.

Macron's party is obviously courting a number of mayors (mostly from the right wing Les Républicains who are in disarray after their European flop). Already 70 LR mayors signed an op-ed to say they were open to it. It's not just on their right, they're also probably throw their support to Lyon's mayor G.Collomb who is a former Socialist but he had already changed allegiance back before Macron's election, he was his first Minister of Interior. There's no confusion which side LREM has more affinities with.

As someone noted it's a bit of an implicit admission that LREM can't just suddenly grow grassroots by itself. As you may remember, the French National Assembly saw almost unprecedented level of personnel replacement and political débutants getting their first mandate but it hasn't really rejuvenated politics in France, the system already is biased to the President and Macron leant really hard on keeping as vertical as ever. LREM targets 10k local officials (from their current 2k) after the election.

Far right Rassemblement National is expected to consolidate his holdings and gain more cities (in a strategy called "radiation" by the party or "flooding" by others). I mentioned this before but the RN only has a dozen mayors or so (counting Béziers where the mayor Robert Ménard -yes, the co-founder of Reporters Without Borders- is non affiliated officially but has the backing of RN on the council) out of 36000 in France when the current agonizing Communist Party still has 750 or so. It never made inroads locally, almost never managed to win two mandates back to back in the half of dozen cities it had in the past. But it looks like the containment will break down alongside the decaying of the two former major parties.

A number of LR mayors, especially in the south-east, will probably go on the road of allying to RN to achieve majorities.

The Green party is still high off its results in the Euro election and has annoyed a lot of people by openly declaring they intend to win more cities by themselves and that basically being suppletives for the Socialist doesn't interest them as much. I mean it's not wholly unjustified but it's a bit of a crapshoot that the Euro election results will map to local elections.

Speaking of Socialist, the polls from Paris, that they are holding since 2001, are souring a bit as it seems the incumbent -Anne Hidalgo- could lose to any LREM candidate. It's vitally important for the PS they keep Paris (and not just for the optics of losing the most important city in the country) so they'll probably throw everything they could to the Greens to keep that alliance going.
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« Reply #6295 on: June 24, 2019, 02:01:36 AM »
Earth Dragon is one of the most ridiculous politicians currently in office, with the clowns walking around these days that's a low opinion

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« Reply #6296 on: June 24, 2019, 03:15:12 AM »
I'm not sure what Erdogan was thinking with that one. Obviously Istanbul mayoralty is a huge pulpit and springboard for national ambition (Erdogan is a former mayor of the city, after all), I understand why they didn't want to lose it but it's weird to waste so much political capital on a gamble.

Erdogan isn't a very intelligent man. He is emotional, short tempered, narrow-minded. His inability to see the big picture causes him to make lots of idiotic decisions. During the past decade he has replaced all of his capable advisors with yes-men and family members. It's only natural that he completely misjudged the situation in Istanbul. Even tough he has successfully consolidated his power, his idiocy has started to take a very real and palpable toll on the economic situation of Turkey. Erdogan's Turkey is ruled by corruption while the nation is doing a giant leap backwards in virtually all areas of life and suffering from a fantastic brain drain: Young and educated Turks are getting out in ever greater numbers. While this may actually be helping Erdogan temporarily (because much like himself, Erdogan's voters are not educated people), the damage to Turkey's future is immeasurable. This is not a smart ruler with a feasible long term strategy.
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« Reply #6297 on: June 24, 2019, 01:43:23 PM »
Would someone please think of muh democracy.


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« Reply #6298 on: June 24, 2019, 01:45:04 PM »
Would someone please think of muh democracy.


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