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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #10441 on: February 27, 2022, 05:22:29 PM »
EU playing a dangerous game with this fighter plane thing. ATGMs are one thing, but Putin is at the age where cognitive degeneration of some sort is a given.  Complete humiliation of a nuclear power is not a good thing, they need to work behind the scenes to give them an out of this mess they've got themselves in.  Putin steps down, immediate end of sanctions, territorial guarantees for both sides, Ukraine allowed to go its own way.

Russia going back to the bad old days of the 90s would be a catastrophe. No matter how much of a bloody nose they deserve.

Crazy shit happening.

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« Reply #10442 on: February 27, 2022, 05:28:09 PM »
This is how Putin meets his top military people now.  :doge
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Zelensky took a selfie with his defense minister: 85 hours of defense
https://twitter.com/UKRINFORM/status/1497972495860838401

Does he still wear his platform boots for these meetings :thinking

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« Reply #10446 on: February 27, 2022, 06:46:32 PM »
https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1498064490637795334

The putin fund is about to go tits up

This is economic suicide  :doge
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« Reply #10448 on: February 27, 2022, 07:04:02 PM »
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1498084587611865090

I'm sure that RT will find 5 people willing to celebrate this
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« Reply #10449 on: February 27, 2022, 07:49:57 PM »
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1498084587611865090

I'm sure that RT will find 5 people willing to celebrate this

Well, this will get Russian nuclear weapons...let's see...a maximum of 650 km closer to western and central Europe.

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I am sure the threat level of Europe going up by a fraction of a per cent is not going to change things much.
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« Reply #10450 on: February 27, 2022, 07:53:25 PM »
I think it is now safe to say that Putin's Grand Ukrainian Misadventuretm has put to rest this myth that he is some 4-dimensional geopolitical chess mastermind and is actually just a boastful little bully with a big stick.


 
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« Reply #10451 on: February 27, 2022, 08:10:51 PM »
It's not over yet. Looks like Belarus is about to join Putler's war against Ukraine.
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« Reply #10452 on: February 27, 2022, 08:19:14 PM »
Putin often made the right calculations when starting his 'short wars' but no one in Europe wants to go back to an age of imperialism.
Not to mention that after the COVID crisis his timing couldn't have been worse.

Putin probably didn't realize that his speech for 'domestic consumption' would go viral and would be interpreted as a declaration of war on all of Europe.
Millions of Europeans are pissed off in general because of COVID and then Vladimir started this shit.
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« Reply #10453 on: February 27, 2022, 08:20:49 PM »
will european on european violence ever end  :stahp
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« Reply #10454 on: February 27, 2022, 08:23:24 PM »
It's not over yet. Looks like Belarus is about to join Putler's war against Ukraine.
There is speculation that if they do this without declaring war the Belarus planes would effectively be "pirates" and Poland would be in their right to shoot them out of the sky as it would be unclear who they would attack.
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« Reply #10455 on: February 27, 2022, 08:51:10 PM »

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« Reply #10456 on: February 27, 2022, 09:00:44 PM »
actually curious what china thinks of all this

like if banning from swift and all the sanctions can literally destroy a country as everyone keeps implying, what countermeasures can they prepare to avoid a similar situation

or they're just nowhere near as bad off as russia to begin with
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« Reply #10457 on: February 27, 2022, 09:13:09 PM »
Not an international finance expert (or even an amateur), but I imagine that if a country that has built its wealth by being the production line for the rest of the world is cut off from international finance systems, that would be pretty bad.

Edit: Just like Russia, which has built the wealth of a few oligarchs by being the energy supplier to almost all of Europe.
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« Reply #10458 on: February 27, 2022, 09:21:20 PM »
Is it time for the west to go on the offensive?

Poland should get its old land back

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« Reply #10460 on: February 27, 2022, 09:35:48 PM »
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« Reply #10461 on: February 27, 2022, 10:54:00 PM »
I am not politically savvy. Here are my stupid thoughts.

- Everyone seems ready to declare early victory or are otherwise saying Putin's fucked himself... has it even been a week yet? This could go on for months or years.
- I don't think Putin is as dumb as everyone seems to assume. The individual units of the Russian military may not be world-class but there's probably some larger, long-term strategy in play.
- Putin clearly wants to goble up what he can before they join NATO. I don't think he'd ever attack NATO, so the nations outside it are his only chance for expansion.
- I have a gut feeling Russia will use a total of 1 nuclear weapons against Ukraine. US using two in WW2 and Russia never getting to might feel like a slight. This would let Russia flex its might and enter the history books, while using diplomacy to back off any retaliatory threats from NATO (nuking Ukraine technically wouldn't let NATO do anything though).

Maybe I'm totally wrong, who knows. 🤷

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« Reply #10462 on: February 27, 2022, 11:02:49 PM »
I am not politically savvy. Here are my stupid thoughts.

- Everyone seems ready to declare early victory or are otherwise saying Putin's fucked himself... has it even been a week yet? This could go on for months or years.

Russia can (should) win a war against Ukraine, but at what cost? Putin has united basically the entire world against him, and I think from that point of view he has fucked himself and Russia as a whole.

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« Reply #10464 on: February 27, 2022, 11:25:56 PM »
I am not politically savvy. Here are my stupid thoughts.

- Everyone seems ready to declare early victory or are otherwise saying Putin's fucked himself... has it even been a week yet? This could go on for months or years.
- I don't think Putin is as dumb as everyone seems to assume. The individual units of the Russian military may not be world-class but there's probably some larger, long-term strategy in play.
- Putin clearly wants to goble up what he can before they join NATO. I don't think he'd ever attack NATO, so the nations outside it are his only chance for expansion.
- I have a gut feeling Russia will use a total of 1 nuclear weapons against Ukraine. US using two in WW2 and Russia never getting to might feel like a slight. This would let Russia flex its might and enter the history books, while using diplomacy to back off any retaliatory threats from NATO (nuking Ukraine technically wouldn't let NATO do anything though).

Maybe I'm totally wrong, who knows. 🤷

it depends on how closely you've been following the situation, how much you've been reading...but also how accurate any of that information might even be, so everyone's takes could be wrong

re: quick victory - there's been plenty of talk that Russia expected to have taken multiple major cities day 1 and doesn't have resources for more than 10 days, and every day costs them millions, which they already cannot afford

if they "win" tomorrow, Ukraine says ok we now surrender and will be your puppets, but sanctions remain in place and they stay ejected from SWIFT, then both Russia AND Ukraine are now economically isolated and fucked

Germany just woke up and have committed to re-arming which is absolutely historic, and it also sounds like they're going to try to ease off on reliance on Russian energy, so regardless of the outcome of the war this is a new wrinkle (Putin isn't stupid and expected this and is totally cool with it?)

re: nuking Ukraine...I mean...the whole point of this is wanting to own the place and re-incorporate it, they don't want a destroyed, irradiated husk, if anything they will nuke places they know they cannot have (and trigger MAD in the process, WW3)

you say Putin's not stupid but then say he will use nukes  :-\  ANY use of nukes is just...the end for Russia, if by some miracle they saw no retaliation, they would be a global pariah and economically shrivel into nothingness

I mean China is its own thing too and they don't want a neighbor who lobs nukes around, even if not at them (yet)
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« Reply #10465 on: February 27, 2022, 11:30:48 PM »
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« Reply #10466 on: February 27, 2022, 11:54:22 PM »
which part has the most slutlanas?  :shaq
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« Reply #10467 on: February 28, 2022, 12:04:02 AM »
All the posts about how amazing the Ukrainian president are, are going to age poorly with stuff like this

https://twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/1498055479938981888

Folks, while the enemy of your enemy is our friend, that doesnt mean hes a good guy.

Hes a fucking TV actor. He has probably used racist language, raped a fellow actress, and is guaranteed to be a transphobe.


After people felated Cuomo for months due to this Covid press conferences, why do they keep idolizing TV daddies?
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« Reply #10468 on: February 28, 2022, 12:07:58 AM »
that seems like it could negatively impact the ballistic flight
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« Reply #10469 on: February 28, 2022, 02:45:55 AM »
All the posts about how amazing the Ukrainian president are, are going to age poorly with stuff like this

https://twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/1498055479938981888

Folks, while the enemy of your enemy is our friend, that doesnt mean hes a good guy.

Hes a fucking TV actor. He has probably used racist language, raped a fellow actress, and is guaranteed to be a transphobe.


After people felated Cuomo for months due to this Covid press conferences, why do they keep idolizing TV daddies?

1980's: the US arms the brave mujahedeen fighters of Afghanistan in their fight against the USSR

2001: :dizzy

2001-2021:   :gun :usacry :nintex

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Or maybe this is more like a modern day russo japanese war

which makes me wonder who is Putin's equivalent of Rasputin  :lol
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« Reply #10470 on: February 28, 2022, 03:56:30 AM »
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« Reply #10471 on: February 28, 2022, 04:26:44 AM »
Hiking the interest rate to 20% hasn't worked

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1498223196210098180

Ukraine should start the talks with a 5 hour lecture on history :rash

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« Reply #10472 on: February 28, 2022, 04:27:31 AM »
https://twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/1498055479938981888


"This Tweet violated the Twitter rules about hateful content"

....shouldn't this message be on every single tweet about the war? What on earth is it if not 'hateful'?

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« Reply #10473 on: February 28, 2022, 04:30:24 AM »
"Dip the bullets in pork and pigs blood"

"Germany should pay for their own defense"

It's so weird when you see things Trump yelled happen  :doge
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« Reply #10475 on: February 28, 2022, 06:48:36 AM »
lmao these vehicles
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1498221216649338881

The Russian theatre has completely collapsed.
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« Reply #10477 on: February 28, 2022, 07:18:52 AM »
Russia bombs Kharkiv and commits some additional war crimes during 'negotiations'.
Dozens reported dead and hundreds wounded. They've also bombed market places and super markets in several cities.

https://twitter.com/WarsontheBrink/status/1498268004819345412

This is the city they thought they could take without a shot on the first day.
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« Reply #10478 on: February 28, 2022, 07:58:33 AM »
https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1498198332853915651

The best thing about that tweet was this reply:



Nvidia clearly having an existential crisis. Probably triggered by low Ampere GA103 yields or something.
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« Reply #10479 on: February 28, 2022, 08:10:32 AM »
https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1498268108427046913

"Don't worry mein Fuhrer, the luftwaffe will take care of business!"

https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1498284323497480193
I'm sure PayPutin is going to be a roaring success.


Finland has also decided to supply Ukraine with arms.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2022, 08:17:13 AM by Nintex »
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Re: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster
« Reply #10480 on: February 28, 2022, 09:25:25 AM »
The Swiss are violating their neutrality:
GENEVA, Feb 27 (Reuters) - Swiss President Ignazio Cassis said on Sunday that it was "very probable" that neutral Switzerland would follow the European Union (EU) on Monday in sanctioning Russia and freezing Russian assets in the Alpine country.

Cassis, interviewed on French-language Swiss public television RTS, said that the seven-member Federal Council would meet on Monday and review recommendations by the departments of finance and economy.

Asked whether Switzerland -- a major financial centre and commodities trading hub -- would follow the EU in freezing Russian assets, he said: "It is very probable that the government will decide to do so tomorrow, but I cannot anticipate decisions not yet taken."

Russia seems to be dumping old inventory:
https://twitter.com/CITeam_en/status/1498284746262126597
Folks, while the enemy of your enemy is our friend, that doesnt mean hes a good guy.

Hes a fucking TV actor. He has probably used racist language, raped a fellow actress, and is guaranteed to be a transphobe.


After people felated Cuomo for months due to this Covid press conferences, why do they keep idolizing TV daddies?
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1498102477043888128

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« Reply #10481 on: February 28, 2022, 09:32:46 AM »
Fuck the Ukraine time for Russia to win

https://mobile.twitter.com/Damilare_arah/status/1497654141350522880

If you had scrolled down a little, you would have seen this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NotLLRealz/status/1497764771260600320

The Nigerians were not supposed board the train to Poland according to their own embassy.
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« Reply #10483 on: February 28, 2022, 09:51:38 AM »
https://twitter.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1498297357246603266
Switzerland joins the sanctions. Putin can't even stash his gold the way the Nazi's could.

https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1498307568632233987
"Hello Command? These people are shouting at us, are you sure we are welcome?"

"Yes Dimity, Vladimir will soon announce the great Russian Empire. These people are here to celebrate with you"

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« Reply #10486 on: February 28, 2022, 11:05:56 AM »
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« Reply #10487 on: February 28, 2022, 11:17:30 AM »
https://twitter.com/perfiliev/status/1498327936130240521

If the EU accepts Ukraine could soon become a member.
I doubt they're willing to go this far though but the general thinking in the EU is that once Putin takes Ukraine he will move on Georgia, Moldova and the Baltics next.

https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1498327139497746439
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« Reply #10488 on: February 28, 2022, 11:27:28 AM »
Russian state media accidentally released a piece meant to be published after their victory on February 26th.





It is clear they did not expect the west to stand up for Ukraine and prevent the formation of a new Russian Empire.
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« Reply #10489 on: February 28, 2022, 11:33:55 AM »
I love how anachronistic the vibe and rhythms are.   The Anglo-Saxons.  Like something out of a WW2 speech.  Or maybe i've lived in the bubble of America for too long and just assume everyone else is on the black/white thing paradigm too now.

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« Reply #10493 on: February 28, 2022, 02:25:21 PM »
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1498377373422657542

That's it for the black sea fleet.  :rejoice
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« Reply #10495 on: February 28, 2022, 02:49:46 PM »
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« Reply #10497 on: February 28, 2022, 02:56:28 PM »


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« Reply #10499 on: February 28, 2022, 03:07:54 PM »
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1498377982771359745

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