RELATIONSHIPS: helping wizards deplete their mana since 2011

[BIONIC]

Get matching neck tats

[james]

You must not remember i live in the netherlands where its currently cold as shit

Walk 20 feet into a neighboring country where bars are open

[Nintex]

I got a chance of getting a date, but shes asking if I have a good idea instead of going for drinks (because government just shut down bars etc )

Who has a good idea

And dont say choking match

I think movie theaters are still open.

You'll certainly score a second date at the COVID test site 

[ToxicAdam]

Find an aboretum that has a greenhouse.  Walk around and make conversation.

[MMaRsu]

[Ghoul]

MM just invite her to yours for some drinks and a scary movie.

[MMaRsu]

MM just invite her to yours for some drinks and a scary movie.

Haha thats what I wanted to do but dont wanna seem creepy

[Ghoul]

it's a fucking pandemic and halloween, shoot your shot. Just be chill and be like, well it's cold as fuck, bars are shut, how about we do this?

[Mr. Gundam]

Go for a walk while wearing masks and yell at/mock all the people not wearing them.

[Clockwork5]

Just popping in to say my LDR girlfriend will be here in an hour! I’m so excited.

3 months in on our second (and final) long distance stint. 6 months to go.

But who cares about all that. I’m gettin laid tonight!

[kingv]

So, after getting bored with Tinder and Match because of no matches and nobody wanting to meet because of covid I have been venturing into the dark side of online dating for the last month or so... aka seeking arrangements.

It’s ostensibly a sugar dating site, but depending on who you talk to it really toes the line between sugar dating and just straight escorting.

A number of the girls are basically just escorts that don’t want to admit it.

That said, if you don’t mind paying to date, you will meet a lot of women, and get interesting stories if nothing else.

In being on the site for less than a month, I’ve been on at least 6 dates, made out with probably 4 chicks and slept with 2. Spent maybe $600 on dates + “allowance”.

Here’s a rundown of all of the experiences:
- Asian chick i had been talking to for a while, good vibe on text and she really wanted to come over. Rookie mistake here by meeting her at my place the first time. She showed up and I quickly realized this wasn’t my move but kind of pity fucked her because I wasn’t sure how to get out of it... and paid for the privilege.
- older milf: lonely milf (44) divorced but lives with ex because of kids. She comes over once a week and we bang, currently
- sexy black chick: this chick is not my usual type, she’s very thick... but we’ll put together, has a good job, and is fun to talk to. We made food at my place and did some heavy petting, but I didn’t really try to go past that. Maybe I could or should? But I’m uncertain about it mostly because I already have the thing going with milf.
- 35 year old musician: went for drinks with this chick and she seemed pretty cool. She got blasted and asked me to go back to her house to listen to music. She did a bunch of coke and played guitar for 2 hours. Fairly talented musician actually. No ass though. It’s practically inverted
- 23 year old single mom. She’s a 23 year old single mom. Kind of has bad style actually, but she’s nice. Made out for a bit and she has invited herself back over to bake cookies on Sunday.

I’ve kind of avoided doing much more than flirting with anyone other than milf. It’s just too messy and expensive to try to juggle multiple women in this way.

I also deleted my account for a while since I already have so much on my plate and spent an hour talking to Rei college roommates and was negotiating with them about banging both of them. That just seemed a little too much even for me.

Also $2k for one night? These two chicks are crazy. They’re both pretty hot but Tuh! They got the wrong guy. Better have a magic pussy to make it worth that.

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[james]

So, after getting bored with Tinder and Match because of no matches and nobody wanting to meet because of covid I have been venturing into the dark side of online dating for the last month or so... aka seeking arrangements.

It’s ostensibly a sugar dating site, but depending on who you talk to it really toes the line between sugar dating and just straight escorting.

A number of the girls are basically just escorts that don’t want to admit it.

That said, if you don’t mind paying to date, you will meet a lot of women, and get interesting stories if nothing else.

In being on the site for less than a month, I’ve been on at least 6 dates, made out with probably 4 chicks and slept with 2. Spent maybe $600 on dates + “allowance”.

Here’s a rundown of all of the experiences:
- Asian chick i had been talking to for a while, good vibe on text and she really wanted to come over. Rookie mistake here by meeting her at my place the first time. She showed up and I quickly realized this wasn’t my move but kind of pity fucked her because I wasn’t sure how to get out of it... and paid for the privilege.
- older milf: lonely milf (44) divorced but lives with ex because of kids. She comes over once a week and we bang, currently
- sexy black chick: this chick is not my usual type, she’s very thick... but we’ll put together, has a good job, and is fun to talk to. We made food at my place and did some heavy petting, but I didn’t really try to go past that. Maybe I could or should? But I’m uncertain about it mostly because I already have the thing going with milf.
- 35 year old musician: went for drinks with this chick and she seemed pretty cool. She got blasted and asked me to go back to her house to listen to music. She did a bunch of coke and played guitar for 2 hours. Fairly talented musician actually. No ass though. It’s practically inverted
- 23 year old single mom. She’s a 23 year old single mom. Kind of has bad style actually, but she’s nice. Made out for a bit and she has invited herself back over to bake cookies on Sunday.

I’ve kind of avoided doing much more than flirting with anyone other than milf. It’s just too messy and expensive to try to juggle multiple women in this way.

I also deleted my account for a while since I already have so much on my plate and spent an hour talking to Rei college roommates and was negotiating with them about banging both of them. That just seemed a little too much even for me.

Also $2k for one night? These two chicks are crazy. They’re both pretty hot but Tuh! They got the wrong guy. Better have a magic pussy to make it worth that.

Can you please provide a detailed guide? I am interested.

[Nintex]

username checks out

[kingv]

So, after getting bored with Tinder and Match because of no matches and nobody wanting to meet because of covid I have been venturing into the dark side of online dating for the last month or so... aka seeking arrangements.

It’s ostensibly a sugar dating site, but depending on who you talk to it really toes the line between sugar dating and just straight escorting.

A number of the girls are basically just escorts that don’t want to admit it.

That said, if you don’t mind paying to date, you will meet a lot of women, and get interesting stories if nothing else.

In being on the site for less than a month, I’ve been on at least 6 dates, made out with probably 4 chicks and slept with 2. Spent maybe $600 on dates + “allowance”.

Here’s a rundown of all of the experiences:
- Asian chick i had been talking to for a while, good vibe on text and she really wanted to come over. Rookie mistake here by meeting her at my place the first time. She showed up and I quickly realized this wasn’t my move but kind of pity fucked her because I wasn’t sure how to get out of it... and paid for the privilege.
- older milf: lonely milf (44) divorced but lives with ex because of kids. She comes over once a week and we bang, currently
- sexy black chick: this chick is not my usual type, she’s very thick... but we’ll put together, has a good job, and is fun to talk to. We made food at my place and did some heavy petting, but I didn’t really try to go past that. Maybe I could or should? But I’m uncertain about it mostly because I already have the thing going with milf.
- 35 year old musician: went for drinks with this chick and she seemed pretty cool. She got blasted and asked me to go back to her house to listen to music. She did a bunch of coke and played guitar for 2 hours. Fairly talented musician actually. No ass though. It’s practically inverted
- 23 year old single mom. She’s a 23 year old single mom. Kind of has bad style actually, but she’s nice. Made out for a bit and she has invited herself back over to bake cookies on Sunday.

I’ve kind of avoided doing much more than flirting with anyone other than milf. It’s just too messy and expensive to try to juggle multiple women in this way.

I also deleted my account for a while since I already have so much on my plate and spent an hour talking to Rei college roommates and was negotiating with them about banging both of them. That just seemed a little too much even for me.

Also $2k for one night? These two chicks are crazy. They’re both pretty hot but Tuh! They got the wrong guy. Better have a magic pussy to make it worth that.

Can you please provide a detailed guide? I am interested.

Yeah man, I can shoot you a pm when I have a chance later tonight. It’s not too hard if you’re not fat, ugly, cheap, or weird.

[tiesto]

First page of the thread I posted this:

2017 goal - meet the woman who I can spend the rest of my life with.

Not too lofty or anything now

Back in August 2017:

I contacted a girl on Match a few days ago, and she's been moving pretty quick - she gave me her # after like 2 messages and told me "I am one of her favorite people she talked to on the site", and then just today she asked me if she wanted to hang out tonight! Unfortunately my phone was dead and I didn't see it till too late... but we are going out tomorrow night when she comes home from work! She's a data analyst and was talking to me a lot about programming since she wants to learn more about it. Also she's pretty cute, too! She's 27 years old, a petite brunette.

And a bit later in October:

Well, we made it official, looks like I have a girlfriend now   

And today:

While on a short weekend vacation up in Lake Placid, I proposed to my girlfriend of 3 years! And she said yes!!! 

[VomKriege]

Sometimes things sort out well. 

[chronovore]

Holy mackerel! Congratulations!

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time to breed 

[Rahxephon91]

Congrats man. You guys always look nice in your FB posts.

[james]

First page of the thread I posted this:

2017 goal - meet the woman who I can spend the rest of my life with.

Not too lofty or anything now

Back in August 2017:

I contacted a girl on Match a few days ago, and she's been moving pretty quick - she gave me her # after like 2 messages and told me "I am one of her favorite people she talked to on the site", and then just today she asked me if she wanted to hang out tonight! Unfortunately my phone was dead and I didn't see it till too late... but we are going out tomorrow night when she comes home from work! She's a data analyst and was talking to me a lot about programming since she wants to learn more about it. Also she's pretty cute, too! She's 27 years old, a petite brunette.

And a bit later in October:

Well, we made it official, looks like I have a girlfriend now   

And today:

While on a short weekend vacation up in Lake Placid, I proposed to my girlfriend of 3 years! And she said yes!!! 

Youre welcome!

[Beezy]

Joined SA because of kingv's post and you have to pay for a membership just to see the messages that people send you. It's $90 for one month.

[Rahxephon91]

Gotta keep the poors out.

I’ll stick to backpage for my arrangements thanks.

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[Olivia Wilde Homo]

SA is pretty awesome. Many of them don’t want to get paid either, they just want out of the dregs of Tinder, Bumble, OK Cupid, etc. Maybe you cover a bill for them here and there. Online dating is still trash but SA is marginally better than trash.

[Beezy]

Isn't backpage dead?

I might still give SA a shot.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Yes, however there are Backpage clones.

The $90/month sucks but it’s a lot of great looking girls and they’re all pretty responsive. It’s a high bar to entry but seems preferable than the spray n’ pray approach to the other dating sites. I should use SA more often.

[team filler]

doesn't sound trashy enough, I miss them southern sluts 

if I flew out to atl tonight, I'd get picked up and have my dick throated while I drive the girl's car back down to columbus    not sure why I've kept making excuses to not go back, some girls out there that love my hog 

[kingv]

Yes, however there are Backpage clones.

The $90/month sucks but it’s a lot of great looking girls and they’re all pretty responsive. It’s a high bar to entry but seems preferable than the spray n’ pray approach to the other dating sites. I should use SA more often.

This has been my experience too.

Most of the chicks are looking for something in my experience, but most are not completely ridiculous about it.

It’s $90, but I went on dates with 5 different chicks in 6 days within being on the site for 3 weeks.

It’s still a better value than tinder.

[Rahxephon91]

I’d probably try it if I had yknow....money.

[toku]

pussy or vidya, a real sophie's choice

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Fortunately I am able to have both and pussy wins maybe 9 out of 10 times. Wouldn’t surprise me if I’m a sex addict as I’ve been relentlessly pursuing new girls for over 15 years.

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[Beezy]

So I paid up for SA. There are more escort type of situations on here than I expected. I wish I didn't message so many people so soon.

I went in with the Tinder mentality where the majority of the people/fake accounts that you match with don't message back.

[Beezy]

All I knew about SA before joining is what kingv posted.

[toku]

If PhoenixDark was still here he would have laced you with some advice/tips.

[kingv]

All I knew about SA before joining is what kingv posted.

Read the profiles carefully. You can kind of get a feel for what they are looking for.

If their profile heavily focuses on money I typically avoid it, because they are looking for an atm.

My sweet spot is usually to look for somebody that is like late 20’s-30’s, has a job even a career, and is basically just looking to date someone who’s going to spoil them or help with bills. Sometimes that’s a casual but reliable dating thing instead of a “LTR leading to marriage” but in my experience you can feel out who is looking for emotional connection with money vs “if the price is right I’ll fuck any one”.

The former is good, the latter (imo) is bad.

I do talk to chicks younger than 28 or so too, but I don’t ever seek them out.

[Phoenix Dark]

Disclaimer: this is information from a past life. I haven't used the site in quite some time, I'm not about that life anymore, etc.

I don't know anything about escorts nor do I have interest in that. However, sugar baby relationships once interested me. If you're gonna pursue that, some pieces of advice...

1. Most of the dudes on SA are trash. From the low ballers to the guys who have extreme fetishes, there's a heavy pool of scum. Being normal, respectful, and doing what you say you're going to do will automatically put you above the field. Even if you're offering less money.

2. Comfort is currency. This ties into the first point. You want to provide a relaxing, SAFE, comfortable experience for whoever you meet. If it's a hotel meet, get a nice one. Doesn't have to be some super expensive one, but like...a three star Marriott. If you're going for the Courtyard hotels, pick the one with the additional living room so you can chill there before heading to the bedroom. Or if you want to cook something for her, go for the Residence Inn ones which have a studio-style kitchen.

Netflix, food, snacks, gifts (if you're into that). You can do a lot, without spending a lot of money, to stand out. You want to give her a reason to stay longer. Even overnight. The relationships I had were all overnight type deals where we'd meet around 4PM, eat and watch a movie, fuck, watch something, fuck again, eat dessert, etc.

Warning: if you stay overnight with a chick, make sure you ask the hotel to send your receipt via email. Many hotels will slip your receipt underneath your hotel door around 5AM. You probably don't want your sugar baby stumbling across that in the middle of the night, as it will include personal info.

3. These chicks are broke. If you're fucking with college aged chicks, or even like grad school chicks/young professionals, they're struggling out here. You don't have to spent a grand to get their attention. $300-500 can get you whatever you want. The pandemic has probably made them even more desperate.

4. Create valuable relationships. It shouldn't just be about fucking thots. Find someone you actually like talking to. It makes things more natural, you'll have more fun, and it'll be more fulfilling.

5. Warning: don't fall for scams. There are chicks on there looking for easy marks. Guys who they can guilt into buying them shit. The first chick I ever saw got me to help finance a medical procedure for her. Then she ghosted me shortly afterwards. You're not an ATM. She doesn't love you. Don't fall for it.

[kingv]

 

Sounds like I’m on the right track.

[nudemacusers]

Advice #4 doesn't really gel with 1, 2, 3, and 5

[remy]

Sugar  baby stuff kinda seems like escorts but more complicated 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I signed up for SA and omg bryhs, it’s amazing.

[kingv]

It rules. If you are in a period of degeneracy it’s the way to go.

It inexplicably has also improved my vanilla dating life because I am just yolo about all of those interactions too.

Also, fellas, you gotta find yourself a girl that wants dick so bad she offers to get a rapid covid test before she sees you.

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[Bebpo]

Catching up on the last month of this thread, so this SA thing, is it just for hookups or can you actually meet people that want to get in relationships/married?

Also that story about the musician who invited you over and then did a bunch of coke made me  , I enjoy soft stuff but I think if anyone went straight to the coke on a first date I'd get out of there asap. Though I guess coke is kind of more normalized than I think, I've had a few social friends admit to times they did coke and I was also just kind of like "wtf"

[Tasty]

Though I guess coke is kind of more normalized than I think, I've had a few social friends admit to times they did coke and I was also just kind of like "wtf"

The gays skew things a little but it was a little crazy to me coke and molly seemed about equal in terms of acceptance and use in certain groups I knew.

(To clarify, I have yet to use coke or molly, and likely won't.)

[CatsCatsCats]

Lots of memes out there about part of becoming an adult is realizing how many people use cocaine lol

They just do!

[Tasty]

Lots of memes out there about part of becoming an adult is realizing how many people use cocaine lol

They just do!

I'd hesitate associating cocaine use/acceptance with adulthood, because at the end of the day the most immature people I knew were the coke users (even the ones "just dabbling"), not counting myself of course. The alcoholics by contrast generally had a lid on their shit... most of the time.

But I'm trying not to be too judgmental here. I just have an impression of it as a drug for the "non-adults."

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[Bebpo]

Also when reading the last page I thought SA = Something Awful and was surprised their forums have a $90 fee now. Like I remember they were always paid membership after the early years, so it wasn't too surprising but $90 seemed like a lot.

I also thought it was weird that the new dating/hookup hotness location was on Something Awful. But Something Awful was basically Reddit before Reddit and had a lot of different sub-forums so again, was not too surprising.

Eventually I figured out that SA was not short for Something Awful in this current discussion.

[toku]

maybe a little fun is exactly what you need to get into relationship mode somewhere else bebpo bless

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SA is for south africa

[Tasty]

Would like to do mushrooms though. Join me bb?

[Bebpo]

maybe a little fun is exactly what you need to get into relationship mode somewhere else bebpo bless

Yeah, that definitely works sometimes.

I think in a couple months when I've got my covid vaccine shot in me I'll give this a try and see how it goes.


I had a thing going on with a gal for a bunch of months lately which was good, but then she got a bf and I've been lazy about putting any effort into meeting someone again.

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[kingv]

Catching up on the last month of this thread, so this SA thing, is it just for hookups or can you actually meet people that want to get in relationships/married?

Also that story about the musician who invited you over and then did a bunch of coke made me  , I enjoy soft stuff but I think if anyone went straight to the coke on a first date I'd get out of there asap. Though I guess coke is kind of more normalized than I think, I've had a few social friends admit to times they did coke and I was also just kind of like "wtf"

I think the answer is probably yes, but you have to be super cautious with it. In my SA time, I've kind of realized there are different categories of women on there.

If you are mainly sticking to women 30+, they are more evenly split between kinky and/or bored of the regular dating sites than they are just trying to hustle men for money. There are a few main groups of women:
- I'm hot and I'm trying to hustle you. This is the MO for like 70% of women under 25. You might get laid, but it will be a PITA and cost you a dime
- Bad marriage: These women want many of the trappings of a relationship, but won't marry you for obvious reasons, and want it on the down low. I think they just figure SA is a safe place to cheat
- Bad Breakup, and possibly bad financial situation because of it: Often there is a sad story here, and some of these women have just been treated poorly by men for their whole lives. "I've only ever dated losers, and I want to date someone who is not a loser" or "Men ain't shit, might as well get paid for it".
- kinksters: Cuckold type situations mostly
- I'm bored of regular dating sites: Want something spicier than what I can find on match.com and maybe I can find it on SA. Or, "I just don't get matched on tinder/match, and think SA will be better for me". IMO, physical attractiveness is even MORE important on SA for women, so I don't know how well this really works. Lots of women tell me I'm good looking on SA though, and nobody ever does on match. Yes I'm aware they are flattering me.

Yes, I think you can find someone to seriously date on SA. Doubly so if you want to play Captain Save a Hoe.

The woman I'm meeting tomorrow is of the "I've only dated losers" variety, and can hardly believe that it's real. The general outline of the allowance I offered probably increases her income by 30% based on what she does for a living. And from what she tells me about her past boyfriends, I probably seem like a pretty amazing catch, if for no other reason than I'm nice to her, care somewhat about her feelings, and am willing to do nice things for her.

I have seen some pretty attractive women with professional careers that don't really seem interested in a "arrangement" as much as "I want someone who will spend money with me to do cool shit together". They are not as likely to meet you in a week though.

That said, I think joining it with the idea of finding a wife just seems really inefficient. But match is really inefficient too in my experience.

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[kingv]

Yes, I think you can find someone to seriously date on SA. Doubly so if you want to play Captain Save a Hoe.

hopefully nobody here does this

Oh yeah, it’s a terrible idea.

But there are women on there that are legitimately looking for a husband, and there are women who have turned to it out of desperation and would probably grab at a lifeline. (Honestly like 95% of the chicks have some sort of financial problem all the time).

Like it’s a bad idea though.

And why are there women looking for a husband on there? I have no idea. Like 90+% of the men are cheating on their wives with prostitutes....

On a side note: met and banged the suicide girl chick. She was cool but sex was sort of trash. Good stories about these dudes that send her money for all sorts of weird shit on snap. One guy asks her to snap him her first piss of the morning everyday and gives her like $60 a week or something. 😂

Side note 2: I’ve got a date for NYE that I think will
Be pretty fun. We were talking and I sent here a selfie and had discord in the background and she was like “hey... you’re not a PC gamer are you?”

Turns out she’s into going to cons and use to have a twitch channel or something.

[BIONIC]

TLDR

   

[Nintex]

TLDR

   

Better to invest that $60 into the James Fund my friend