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« Reply #600 on: May 04, 2020, 12:07:12 AM »
I kinda feel the same way sometimes about the pandemic. And yeah, barely chipping away at that wall in a cave, hoping that someday one of your strikes breaks open a sunny exit, definitely can feel like a huge weight and make you avoid thinking about the future.

Have you tried melatonin for sleep issues? Thinking about it you've probably tried lot's of things... just came to mind since melatonin gummies were prescribed for my niece for a period of time, and seemed to do OK.

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« Reply #601 on: May 04, 2020, 12:25:09 AM »
I hate to post this on the heels of Wrath's post, but I wanted to say I feel like something's changed inside my mind this year.

A year ago, living with my parents, being unemployed, and having no car... it felt like I was at the bottom of the ocean. In fact I kept going back to the image of Angel trapped there at the end of season three.

Summary: the vampire Angel is tied up and thrown in a coffin, which is dumped at the bottom of the Atlantic. Immortal due to his vampirism, Angel won't die from lack of oxygen, so it was essentially eternal solitary confinement.

"Angel got what he deserved."

I also thought a lot about Wesley's response, "We all get what we deserve."

I bring up the TV show Angel because it's part of what's helped me. It's entry-level Philosophy 101 stuff, but the themes of existentialism really resonated with me when I started putting it in terms of my own life.

"If nothing we do matters, then the only thing that matters is what we do."

It feels like I've had a very long, shitty hangover from theism. Even though I felt like doing good things was worth it, that started taking a backseat in my personality the longer time went on. Being in Boston in particular, flush with cash, hitting bars every other night... I had a pretty serious drinking problem that I was doing everything possible to avoid confronting. It's such a terrible cliche I can barely bring myself to type it, but I had a missing piece I was trying to fill.

And the flip that switched when I went "Oh, God's not watching me every moment?" It started this insidious idea in my head that I could act publicly one way, and privately another, and it would all be cool since the only part I cared about people knowing was the public part.

But that's never really the case. The human brain is not a computer where you can just pop in a new hard drive and keep shit separate. The shitty thoughts you have in private will eventually corrupt your soul, whether God exists or not. I spent way too much mental energy hating people I thought wronged me, even though on reflection in most of those situations the problem was me.

Put another way:



Even if I think I'm a good person, if I deliberately choose to avoid doing the right thing because it's hard or I'm worried about myself, then I'm not a good person. It's easy to type here but so much goddamn harder to internalize in your day-to-day life. I'm still struggling with making what should be easy decisions -- apologizing to someone when I'm in the wrong, or offering to help even though I'm feeling extremely lazy. Real life doesn't have dramatic superhero moments (pardon the GIF) but every day will present new choices, and complaining that you're forced to make a choice is the wrong attitude to take. And that's basically how I thought throughout all of 2019.

Combined with my decision to abandon coding for a living forever, I feel like I have a purpose and drive that I haven't had in over 15 years. I feel like I'm making choices now, and that they're the right ones, instead of just being on autopilot.

And I'm still here, with the parents, with no car, with no job. But I've done a complete 180 in mindset from a year ago.








Uhhhh this turned out way longer than intended sorry lmao

Edit- Oh one more thing that changed me from being a pessimistic jerk who would lash out at people IRL to... someone who does that far less now, is realizing that my own decisions have led me here, and it needs to be my decisions to get me out.

More broadly, I realized the universe/society/God/Satan/whatever doesn't owe me shit. I don't deserve to be successful just because I think I should be.

This was really hammered home on Christmas, when the only thing I wanted was a new keyboard so I could resume learning to play. A 2-3 day depression and hurt feelings are what followed...

...I felt like a goddamn 8-year old. :lol That's when I knew I had to seriously grow the fuck up.
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« Reply #602 on: May 04, 2020, 12:44:21 AM »
What really helped me though was getting a dog. Highly recommended.

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« Reply #603 on: May 04, 2020, 09:45:06 AM »
Attitude and you're state is everything. If you felt good and secure about yourself, confident in your abilities you'd also feel this way about your decisions. Way easier said than done, and everyone seems to learn the hard way unless you're buddha or something. Keep your will strong, forgive yourself always, and enjoy shit. All the work is in mind, bless up.

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« Reply #604 on: May 04, 2020, 10:39:16 AM »
anyone have any experiences with anti-depressants

this year was gonna be great for me and i had all these plans but then you-know-what happened and now everything has to wait

but now would be a good time to try anti-depressants

i don't have much anxiety problems, just that i can hardly learn anything or focus on stuff

which in the grand scheme of things isn't so bad, but i'd like to be able to do stuff instead of just waste time

so i was wondering if anti-depressants can help with that

I was on SSRI'S (escitalopram) for only 5 days before I quit. It takes about a month to build up enough in the bloodstream to start working, but I was getting pretty much every side effect listed. My skin was freezing cold and clammy yet I was sweating, I was nauseous, my bones ached, and I could barely follow conversations because I was so out of it. I was on the lowest possible dosage of SSRI, and Ondasetron still didn't help with the nausea.

Now that I know what the side effects are like, i'm too scared to start taking them again. I guess i'm only qualified enough to give this one piece of advice: if you start taking them, don't stop until you get over the hump and they start working.

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« Reply #605 on: May 04, 2020, 03:57:20 PM »
ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuck

reading about those side effects makes me reconsider

i knew there were possible side effects but thats bad... altho i guess you seem to have had it pretty bad, other people seem to have only the side effect of not being able to orgasm anymore :doge

Yeah i'm super skinny so maybe it hit me even harder than it would a regular person. And I wasn't used to neurochemical changes back then either, I barely even drank.

Honestly one of the biggest regrets in my life is not keeping up with them because I wonder whether it would have been possible for me to be happy. Don't let me being a pussy stop you from taking them

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« Reply #606 on: May 12, 2020, 02:20:01 AM »
Man it really sucks when you're feeling down or even lonely and you have no one to turn to. I try my best to always be there for people when they feel the same way, but it's my own fault in that I hate talking to anyone about my problems cause it always feels like I'm burdening them. I'm always listening to people, so I know it really isn't as people just need an outlet sometimes. I just can't bring myself to do it. Maybe it's due to oversharing in the past and having that backfire in my face but I've been conditioned to think that as soon as I vent about my problems whoever I'm venting to would start distancing themselves from now on. The mundane truth is that people get busy, something else takes their focus, or they start having their own issues to deal with and there isn't anything wrong with that. It's never really that personal. But my mind will always go there regardless of what the truth may be.

It's starting to get really tiring. I miss my ex and even regret turning her down last she texted me though I absolutely did the right thing in rejecting her, if only cause in spite of our relationship falling apart and the glaring flaws that were always there, she was always happy to listen and knew how to get me to open up and make me feel heard. And it went both ways, probably the only relationship and/or friendship where that never felt one sided. Hell, I'm sitting here thinking of hitting her up, knowing it'll either blow up in my face due to me rejecting her last time or fall right back into a co-dependent and parasitic relationship doomed to fail. I'm glad I typed this up if only cause it re-convinced me that I moved on and nothing good would come out of that.

But still, I'm fucking tired. Too bad saudi is shit for mental health, cause a therapist sounds like exactly the right thing for this hole I found myself in.

Life just sucks sometimes, I guess. Back to watching twitch streams.
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« Reply #607 on: May 14, 2020, 07:05:09 PM »
So like, is there anyone out there whose actually happy right now? I feel like at best we're all getting by, but I'm definitely struggling with depression. I dislike my job more than ever right now and am trying to do everything I can to find stuff I enjoy to make up for all the negativity and shit from when I work each day.

Used to do that in general, but I'd go out and socialize and date and do fun things and it would make up for the mostly unhappy times during work hours. But now, idk. I try walks, drives, exercise, cooking, talking to people on dating sites, chatting with friends, now I'm trying writing, but none of it really is making me feel happy and fulfilled in life right now. Games/Movies/Books are fun but just time distracting things and then it's bed time again and then time to get up and slog through shitty work again and repeat until the weekend.

Would be nice to find something that is life motivating right now to feel good waking up in the morning and positive about each day.

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« Reply #608 on: May 14, 2020, 07:16:27 PM »
i didn't even clock in to work the last two days and i could not give less of a fuck. when the highlight of your day is choosing what game to play or show to watch things start to feel pretty grim.

it's good that you're getting out at least, and socializing. might be nice to take up a new hobby or project, just to have some goals.
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« Reply #609 on: May 14, 2020, 07:18:11 PM »
I'm not happy but I have gotten to the point where I'm at the same level of unhappiness pre-pandemic. 

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« Reply #610 on: May 14, 2020, 07:31:24 PM »
I was on-and-off unemployed and living with my parents for the year going into COVID-19 lockdown, which I'm pretty sure reset my mind/social expectations cause I'm kinda thriving rn tbh. I feel like I have clear goals and I'm no longer locked into some long-determined destiny.

Dunno if there's going to be a world left for me to pursue those goals in, but I'm working under the assumption humanity will figure the big issues out (otherwise the ennui sets in.)

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« Reply #611 on: May 14, 2020, 07:40:35 PM »
I had a couple of days over the weekend where I was in very sad depression but I’ve bounced back to my baseline of just feeling emotionally dead. I call it meh-xistence.
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« Reply #612 on: May 14, 2020, 09:05:59 PM »
what now

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« Reply #613 on: May 14, 2020, 09:35:08 PM »
Yeah, everyone is more down than usual right now. Just try not to live in a bottle or whatever all day. :-[
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« Reply #614 on: May 14, 2020, 11:25:10 PM »
might be nice to take up a new hobby or project, just to have some goals.

Yeah I just don't know what haha, or how to find the time to do it...

I mean I took up cooking and drink mixology and trying to get back into game journalism. With stay home orders and limited stuff available by delivery (like for crafting and stuff), just kinda limited.

Learn I language I guess? But can't travel or use it for now....

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« Reply #615 on: May 15, 2020, 12:07:24 AM »
So I started trying Yoga with Adrienne, I first did her beginner video a bunch of times (she recommends repeating it until you're comfortable) and I've started on the 30 day series. Also at the behest of my therapist I've started trying guided meditations, because I struggled to do regular ones. It's still early in all of this, but honestly whenever I feel that tightening in my chest or acceleration of my heart from anxiety, I start doing some deep breathing and try clearing my head and it helps a ton. I'm not perfect, and last week I had a bunch of days where I had bad moments and didn't do any of this, but I'm trying to commit to it because I do notice the difference.

The other stupidly basic thing I did do while I was feeling down last week, was I would get up and move. Especially on the weekend. If looking at the internet was getting me down, I would shut my laptop, and just go to the kitchen and clean or go to my room and dust or something super simple. I also try to go somewhere close just outside my neighborhood in my car on the weekends. Just to remind myself there is a world beyond the area I usually walk my dog.
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« Reply #616 on: May 15, 2020, 01:44:02 AM »
Life is really fucking me up right now. I’m lucky my partner is so supportive or else I would be edging towards despair. As it is, I just mildly freak out before bed for a while.

-moved (KC to NC) in November to live with girlfriend who had moved away for school a while back.
-mom gets brain cancer in December but they think they caught it quickly.
-because why not, I need two root canals in February
-get the first one done, waiting for crown.
-Corona
-dentist closed
-lost job
-moms brain cancer is going for the kill, year max with radiation and surgery.
-gotta move back to KC now because this might get ugly.
-still need that second fucking root canal, holy shit this sucks
-dentist closed
-fuck

That actually felt kinda good.



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« Reply #617 on: May 15, 2020, 02:13:46 AM »

But still, I'm fucking tired. Too bad saudi is shit for mental health, cause a therapist sounds like exactly the right thing for this hole I found myself in.

Life just sucks sometimes, I guess. Back to watching twitch streams.

There are legit proper online therapists (video calls) if you can cough up the dough ($150+ per session). So the option is there, and they can work around time zones as needed.
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« Reply #618 on: May 15, 2020, 09:30:06 AM »
So I started trying Yoga with Adrienne, I first did her beginner video a bunch of times (she recommends repeating it until you're comfortable) and I've started on the 30 day series. Also at the behest of my therapist I've started trying guided meditations, because I struggled to do regular ones. It's still early in all of this, but honestly whenever I feel that tightening in my chest or acceleration of my heart from anxiety, I start doing some deep breathing and try clearing my head and it helps a ton. I'm not perfect, and last week I had a bunch of days where I had bad moments and didn't do any of this, but I'm trying to commit to it because I do notice the difference.

The other stupidly basic thing I did do while I was feeling down last week, was I would get up and move. Especially on the weekend. If looking at the internet was getting me down, I would shut my laptop, and just go to the kitchen and clean or go to my room and dust or something super simple. I also try to go somewhere close just outside my neighborhood in my car on the weekends. Just to remind myself there is a world beyond the area I usually walk my dog.

I like yoga with Yoga with Adrienne

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« Reply #619 on: May 15, 2020, 11:00:49 AM »
possible you may have cte from injury?  :-\
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« Reply #620 on: May 15, 2020, 11:22:47 AM »
Yeah, I have often worried if my bouts of depression and such are related to the many head injuries I suffered as a child.. and adolescent.. and adult

Hang in there, riot, sendin love

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« Reply #621 on: May 15, 2020, 11:54:32 AM »
Yeah, my list starts at 2 when I fall off the side of a stairwell, splitting my head open and then older brother stuff, sports stuff, the time I knocked myself out running into a slick wet garage :lol I also used to be a total spaz and hit myself sometimes, so :/

But yeah, I mean, one way or another we’re all turning to mush someday but yeah fuck I so feel dumber....


Decided getting dumber is a win, I wanted to be the nice old dumb hippy
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« Reply #622 on: May 15, 2020, 12:11:58 PM »
I used to hit my head against brick walls when I was 14-15 because I was convinced if I could hurt my brain enough to "dumb myself down" I'd be normal enough to be happy, but now I wonder if I wasn't just subconsciously looking for any reason to hurt myself.

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« Reply #623 on: May 15, 2020, 02:08:06 PM »
sorry, roit  :-\
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« Reply #624 on: May 15, 2020, 02:19:57 PM »
I was looking for an email I sent earlier this week; and when I read it I noticed I used 2 completely wrong words.

Like I know what word I intended to type, and I'm not talking typos, just total word replacement with something that maybe phonetically is somewhat close.

In glancing at a few of my forum posts I'm doing it here too;  noticed "cleared" instead of "cured" for instance.

Something misfiring in my brain.

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« Reply #625 on: May 15, 2020, 02:42:41 PM »
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« Reply #626 on: May 19, 2020, 04:26:25 PM »
can you still like posts?  :heart
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« Reply #627 on: May 19, 2020, 04:26:33 PM »
when that happens do they stick you in a psych ward or do you get to go home
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« Reply #628 on: May 19, 2020, 04:27:56 PM »
overdosing and coronavirus hate him, breh is invincible  :doge
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« Reply #629 on: May 19, 2020, 05:12:27 PM »
Vibes, when I’ve had my lows the thinking that always got me near suicidal was “I can’t live another  40+ years like this.” Because in that moment, it seemed like the way you are feeling is going to be forever. Like a hell you can’t escape.

But trust that it is not. It’s goes in waves and you’ll come out of this funk. The things you can’t appreciate now you will come to appreciate. Just hold on and ride it out. Your brain chemistry will shift as you get older and this dread and despair that constantly fucks with you will fade. You’ll also learn how to manage it better in the future.


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« Reply #630 on: May 19, 2020, 05:36:13 PM »
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« Reply #631 on: May 19, 2020, 05:41:28 PM »
Must confess I don't read that thread often but a lot of people could do with any supplemental positive vibes.
Bless you all. It's just a trinket in the grand scheme of things but hopefully every little bit helps.
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« Reply #632 on: May 19, 2020, 07:20:55 PM »
Good to see you back, Joe.
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« Reply #633 on: May 20, 2020, 03:15:27 AM »
Had my first encounter with anxiety attacks, stemming from a vicious cycle. Sorry, only registered users can see this content. Please Login or Register.

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« Reply #634 on: May 20, 2020, 09:16:21 PM »
Had my first encounter with anxiety attacks, stemming from a vicious cycle. Sorry, only registered users can see this content. Please Login or Register.
I used to get anxiety attacks back in my twenties when I was constantly sure I was going to go broke. Mindfulness helped me so much. I really had to evaluate my relationship with anxiety and the thinking that goes along with it and then practice identifying, noting and letting go of the mental cycle.

I know that only vaguely makes a damn bit of sense but it has honestly changed my life. Now when I get anxious or acutely stressed I can settle myself down within moments just by counting my breath. Sounds dumb but again, this shit changed my life.

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« Reply #635 on: May 20, 2020, 09:17:36 PM »
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« Reply #636 on: May 20, 2020, 10:10:26 PM »
Lavender candles were a fucking life saver when I experienced harsh panic attacks earlier this year. But I'll echo the mindfulness stuff, although I had to try different kinds of meditation to find one that didn't trigger PTSD and panic. I suggest guided ones over the pure breathing ones. I did a really corny visualization one as well, but it worked better than anything else I had done at that point and got me to being able to do other types. Also journaling has been a life saver, it's kind of my daily outlet for whatever has been building up in my head.
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« Reply #637 on: May 20, 2020, 10:53:21 PM »
All that said... today has not been great. Grief sucks.
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« Reply #638 on: May 21, 2020, 11:47:26 AM »
bless up to everyone that posted in here and who hasn't but is still having a hard time in 2020.

I've been having a lot of trouble truly understanding that my body is separate from the world around it, and therefore should not shoulder the burdens and pains of said world, which makes for a crippling existence. decided to only give myself two goals to complete each day of this week and let any perceived notions of what I should be doing with my time pass by without judgement of myself, and I've been managing better as a result.

Gotta start small once again if that's what it takes, and there's really no better time to be doing this than lockdown.

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« Reply #639 on: May 21, 2020, 10:16:54 PM »
Sorry bluemax; it truly does suck.

These methods for dealing with anxiety inspired me to at least think about going that route.  I'm not necessarily having panic attics (I have had a few in my life);  more just intense long-lasting anxiety that comes and goes.   

Really fighting against my own brain I feel;  all it wants to do is obsess over:
- Something that actually is stressful
- Creating stresses where there aren't really any
- The fact that I'm having these issues in the first place

The third one being sort of the vicious circle type deal where the fact that I've been in this anxious state for weeks is causing me more anxiety as I obsess over the idea that my brain is gonna be stuck like this.

I'm cutting back on caffeine for now;  wasn't really drinking insane amounts or anything but as this has been effecting me I've been so exhausted, and work has been incredibly busy.. so I did up my morning caffeine to get through my day.   

Am thinking maybe I should completely cut it out before talking to a doctor;  just sort of get it off the table so they can't cite it as a cause/contributor.

But alas; the idea of quitting caffeine... causes me major anxiety.

Really do appreciate y'all describing what has helped you in the past;  definitely what I need.  If I can avoid doctors I'm going to;  although I probably shouldn't at this point.   My issues tend to be cyclical so it's easy to wait for a healthy state and forget about all this but whatever is up with me is definitely getting worse.   The low cycle lower and much longer.

This is kind of the exact thing I've been going through. I told my therapist that I was having a lot of repeating thoughts, to the point where it was burying my ability to do anything. That's when she suggested the journaling. The other thing I've been having is that when something stresses me out, like say work, I switch my stress back to grieving and avoid even dealing with the other stress. I guess the journaling kind of helps here too, because it gives me time to try and write out the sources of my emotions, so now I'm a bit better at taking pause and trying to identify what I am feeling and what it is I really want.

My newest thing is that when I feel slow onset of anxiety, I try to get active, whether it is working out or just cleaning or just physically changing locations for awhile. I still am not really able to do this when I get flooded, but its a start.

I slept like shit last night and I've been tired and all over the place emotionally today. I do feel I am recovering from what I felt yesterday, which is good. I measure my progress now in how long negative feelings persist and how long before I get back to baseline. It's a long road.
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« Reply #640 on: May 29, 2020, 02:25:29 AM »
These recent anxiety posts are helping me.

I posted in the corona thread that I had a close up encounter with a doctor (who sees tons of patients daily, some with masks, some without) in my face whose not wearing a mask talking for like 5 mins and I just had a cheap cloth no filter mask on. I had a panic attack/anxiety attack after worrying that I could have got C19 if the doctor (who is a dumbass and probably very trumpy) was contagious and being immune suppressed that can go very badly for me.

Tried talking to family, friends all day for support because I was having such bad anxiety I couldn't think of anything else and my face was on fire, heart rate up, can't sleep without nightmares, can't do anything else but think of the ticking time bomb of the next 5-7 days until potentially symptoms could start to appear and I could die. Just really afraid, haven't been this scared of anything in a long long time. Was feeling better for a little while after talking to one friend and they got me thinking the chances were really low that I could have gotten it, but then started looking into research statistics and started getting more nervous again.

I'm afraid in the next week I'll either start having psycho-somatic fake symptoms, panick attacks, or a mental breakdown, unable to sleep or cook and eat, etc..etc...until enough time has passed that fingers crossed I know I'm clear and can go back to my extremely bunker style safe day to day living to protect myself.

I need to relax and take my mind off this and move on. If I get sick, I get sick and I'll go get tested and deal with it, but otherwise I need to live my life. But it's hard getting through the fear & anxiety.

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« Reply #641 on: May 29, 2020, 02:31:40 AM »
Try some different types of meditation maybe Bebpo? Progressive muscle relaxation might help as it has you focus on different parts of you body and releasing tension, instead of the usual stuff about controlling or clearing your thoughts. Alternatively guided imagery meditation is another option. I've tried both of these as simply trying to clear my mind doesn't work super well, and when I first started trying again recently I was having PTSD to a recent traumatic event. These forms of meditation kind of help you learn to control your breathing and body as well as being a little less abstract mentally than most meditations.
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« Reply #642 on: May 29, 2020, 02:45:34 AM »
Bebpo I can recommend this book:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13721709-the-antidote

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A witty, fascinating, and counterintuitive read that turns decades of self-help advice on its head and forces us to rethink completely our attitudes toward failure, uncertainty, and death.

The Antidote is a series of journeys among people who share a single, surprising way of thinking about life. What they have in common is a hunch about human psychology: that it's our constant effort to eliminate the negative that causes us to feel so anxious, insecure, and unhappy. And that there is an alternative "negative path" to happiness and success that involves embracing the things we spend our lives trying to avoid. It is a subversive, galvanizing message, which turns out to have a long and distinguished philosophical lineage ranging from ancient Roman Stoic philosophers to Buddhists.

Oliver Burkeman talks to life coaches paid to make their clients' lives a living hell, and to maverick security experts such as Bruce Schneier, who contends that the changes we've made to airport and aircraft security since the 9/11 attacks have actually made us less safe. And then there are the "backwards" business gurus, who suggest not having any goals at all and not planning for a company's future.

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« Reply #643 on: June 10, 2020, 12:22:26 PM »
Man, the situation in the USA with Covid is so depressing. Especially living in a slightly red/conservative/fox area where people are protesting all the time to not wear masks and nobody is wearing masks anywhere, neighbors all not wearing masks.

It just feels hopeless.

If I make it through this year, I'm going to really try to start the process to move to Canada next year. I can't deal with living in the USA anymore.

If there was some city/town in the USA where the police weren't fucking terrible, where people were responsible and everyone was wearing masks & social distancing, and generally was a multi-cultural progressive place, I'd be happy to move there and stay in the USA, but I don't any place is like that here.

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« Reply #644 on: June 10, 2020, 12:26:32 PM »
I agree with you, Bebpo, but I don't think it's really going to be any better in Canada.  But a change of scenery does seem like it might be a good idea.
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« Reply #645 on: June 10, 2020, 12:32:21 PM »
I agree with you, Bebpo, but I don't think it's really going to be any better in Canada.  But a change of scenery does seem like it might be a good idea.

I feel like the big cities have their own issues like Vancouver's ridiculous cost of living elitist place, but I feel like maybe some of the smaller towns would be chill. Idk, I'd need to do more research.

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« Reply #646 on: June 10, 2020, 12:33:23 PM »
I agree with you, Bebpo, but I don't think it's really going to be any better in Canada.  But a change of scenery does seem like it might be a good idea.

I feel like the big cities have their own issues like Vancouver's ridiculous cost of living elitist place, but I feel like maybe some of the smaller towns would be chill. Idk, I'd need to do more research.

Don't see how that would be any different than a smaller town here (obviously not in places like the south, lol).  Recently I started thinking about how I'd like to try living in a New England town on the coast.  Used to live in a town on Long Island as a kid and those were good times. 
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« Reply #647 on: June 10, 2020, 12:58:08 PM »
Yeah, I’ve been feeling similarly, bebs. The town I live in is like halfway between Portland proper (Antifa bravo base) and eastern Oregon, which, is like don’t tread on me flag, oreGUNian stickers, take over wild life preserves with an armed militia territory. There’s bars up here where I know the owner and she’s a berniecrat, and there’s bars up here where no one on the staff was wearing face masks. I’m feeling like I need to hunker back down hard right now, and I’m going fuckin crazy from the months I’ve been hunkered already with a weird (ex)/wife situation and being unemployed, and like fearful I might have to make some principled stand at the local thrift way with the blm protestors because I also hear the hick bois talking shit about em. America is powdered up right now ready to blow — no way I can move up north though, this house is pretty much my footprint on the world so, just gotta get involved in my little town

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« Reply #648 on: June 10, 2020, 01:22:18 PM »
had three therapy sessions during quarantine and the therapist no-showed on two of them


doing super over here guys  :shaking
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« Reply #649 on: June 10, 2020, 06:58:47 PM »
had three therapy sessions during quarantine and the therapist no-showed on two of them


doing super over here guys  :shaking

 :(

Also my therapist no-shows like every couple of appointments. Then he's like "oh whoops I forgot to write down our next appointment on the calendar and booked someone else, are you free tomorrow?". I don't know if this is a therapist thing. Did your therapist at least try to reschedule like that? Or did they just ghost you forever.

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« Reply #650 on: June 10, 2020, 08:07:16 PM »
they did eventually join up, so that's something
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« Reply #651 on: June 10, 2020, 10:28:13 PM »
they did eventually join up, so that's something

Oh, so they just showed up late? Yeah, my therapist is alwaaaays late. When I'd go in person I'd sit in the waiting room for like 10 mins past my start time :|

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« Reply #652 on: June 10, 2020, 10:40:50 PM »
yeah, they were late. had my anxiety all over the place because of the last no show.

this stuff definitely helps but I'm always fighting the urge to want to like map stuff out and say "HEY DOESN'T THIS LOOK LIKE A PATTERN FIX IT PLEASE"
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« Reply #653 on: June 11, 2020, 12:08:43 AM »
That all sounds ridiculously unprofessional of them.

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« Reply #654 on: July 03, 2020, 05:36:56 PM »
I don't think I'm supposed to be happy in my life or in general, like ever.

I'm starting to come around to that realization. I mean, it's been part of my life for ages. But this seems to be the truth that I'm supposed to face.

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« Reply #655 on: July 03, 2020, 05:52:07 PM »
I'm just aiming to control my depressive episodes in life.  Want to get that down then the rest is bonus. 

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« Reply #656 on: July 03, 2020, 06:43:46 PM »
the low energy shit is the worst. like when those terrible days are over it's like well at least i survived, but the rest of the time it just feels like where is the energy to do anything at all?
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« Reply #657 on: July 03, 2020, 09:36:40 PM »
It's not the low energy or sadness for me. It's the realization that nobody that I give a shit about gives a shit about me.

Oh, my parents do: I "know" that but it's impossible to talk to them about shit for me. They never listen.

Same with my boss when I show concerns about methods/etc. It's impossible for me to actually have someone sit there and listen when I do the same.

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« Reply #658 on: July 04, 2020, 10:48:06 PM »
I haven't had a major panic attack since those days about which I posted.

I occasionally still deal with dizziness and nausea, which I'm certain is stress-related. I do breathing exercises and it comes under control pretty quickly. Some efforts take longer than others.

Some family stuff came up in addition to work stress, and it's compounded by COVID-19 preventing me from flying to the USA to deal with it directly. Absolutely miserable stuff. But I'm continuing to breathe my way through it.

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« Reply #659 on: July 10, 2020, 05:57:07 PM »
Pretty sure I'm depressed
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